My premium just expired. How long should I wait before the discount offers kick in? I haven't logged in since last week.

(01-01-2016 04:38 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  I've managed to successfully turn the tables on this thing to the point where I have a girl visiting me a couple of times a week with a gift each time. Chocolates, flowers, you name it. What am I giving her back? The biggest gift of all - my cock. She's 21.

She's actually a good girl looking for a mentor (probably), similar to another girl I'm seeing. This mentorship stuff can actually be priceless to a girl between 18-23 if she believes she's extracting value from it. They eventually forget the mentoring thing and stick for the sex with a high value guy. You have to thank that bluffer Thai Lopez and others on Youtube for creating this fascination about having a mentor. I don't put anything in my profile about it, it's just what's in their heads "he appears to be dressed well, appears successful and hangs out in cool places I would love to spend more time with him".

This is the key to gaming SA, which some of you in this thread don't seem to completely understand. There are a number of ways you can approach it, a few of which have been explained in great detail in this thread. However, this approach is the best. To explain it again...

You are a charismatic, cool, high-value, high status dude. You are giving some women a rare opportunity to be a small part of your life. Do some method acting in your mind and, when you're interacting with the SA website or with any of the women on it, make yourself believe that this is the guy that you are. These women are auditioning for the chance to be a part of your life. Your time is extremely limited and valuable, so you don't have time to play the usual games that attractive women get used to playing with the orbiters in their lives.

When a SA woman shit tests me too much over text or email, I almost always just stop replying, I block her and bury her profile so I won't see it anymore. The only time I don't do that is if I'm gaming them in a city in which the women to men ratio on SA isn't quite as high as it is in most other places. Think about it, would a successful lawyer, business executive, or politician who has his relationship shit together put up with games from these broke girls? Of course not. That's who you are, the big man with big ambition and no time for bullshit.

Some of the girls get this and some don't. The ones who get it, some of whom are on the site just because they want to bang high-status dudes and don't care about money, will be the most fun to hang out with. You can, of course, game some of the skeezy golddiggers and get some easy lays, but you're going to have to put up with crap like them texting you one-hour before the first date and saying, "I'm about to be evicted" or "My student loan is due today" or "You will be bringing me a gift today, won't you?"

I bought a 1 month membership last year. Went on 4 dates and ended up banging twice, both times at hotels. I didn't continue because at £120+ per night for a decent hotel, this method wasn't sustainable with my budget.

I'm thinking about getting back into this game and bringing chicks back to my place instead. I rent a nice 2 bed 2 bath flat in central London. Market value is probably at least £650k. Unfortunately I have a roomate (who is chill and would play along if asked).

I've concocted the following backstory to explain my living situation:

I'm an expat who moved to London recently to conduct my business. I'm staying in my current pad for a while because its close to financial district, but business is going well so I'm looking to buy a house in the near future. Maybe I'll say I've purchased a penthouse in a new housing development on spec, and I'm waiting for it to be completed. As for the roomate, I'll say I've got a friend visiting for a little while on a European vacation.

Is this story believable? Any suggestions to improve it?

Also, does anyone have any horror stories from bringing girls back to their place? Am I an idiot for doing this? I'll be taking all the usual precautions - throwaway email, hush phone number, alias, etc.

If you read my previous SA posts I strongly advise not bringing any SA banglers back to your home on first or second bangs as a strong percentage half are semi pros with all the dodgy and shady behaviors enumerated previously in this topic.

Learn to get wholesale hotel deals - "name your own price" functionality has gotten me some solid deals in both Boston, SoNH and NYC especially when there are no conventions in town - You have retail if you must have a specific hotel, express deals what they are willing to take and the name your own price deals - the local manager of the 3 star Radisson informed me that if I call him direct he will give me the same quoted price as priceline because Priceline takes 30% of the booking fee and charges extra for taxes and fees... so if you get friendly with the managers (Make an excuse to compliment an employee makes you look like a good guy he may give you 10% off a priceline express deals as he is still getting 20% more than Priceline.

Until you have sorted the SA Semi Pros hookers from the students seeking mentors and an up scale lifestyle -until you decide that she is not a mercenary hooker with coke nose and a biker pimp - and is a woman you would like to add to your harem or in your rotation or if a really useful lass your long term wing woman do not bang them in your home until you know they are not criminals dodging the law. This is why I like coeds they either have a current valid student ID or not.

As for saying you are buying a penthouse - really - less is more - I just tell them I am living frugally until I find a good deal on a new home/Condo/Coop/Land to build on what ever works for you - less blatant bragging and more coopting her into your life... take her along as a wing woman to look at homes and ask her woman's opinion what she likes or does not like about a space or unit - not that it really matters to you but gives them the warm and fuzzies that you asked - bringing a wing woman gives you credibility with the Real Estate people and she will naturally spin fantasies in her mind of nesting with you in your man cave - that is when it gets interesting - taking an 8-9-10 and having her buy into your future lifestyle in her inner most fantasies can get good ones addicted to you - especially if they have been pumped and dumped by a few frat boys with nothing but a cum shot running down the inside of their thighs to show for it - women have great ability to project themselves into your reality which makes them overlook a lot of your flaws, age, other harem members, game tactics etc.

Instead of bullshitting them in the here and now - get them to buy into your future dreams and potential lifestyle - let them think it was their idea to try and put you on lock down. This is where most guys go wrong with the higher end ladies especially top end SA banglers.

What hotels in NYC would you recommend for SA game? Is this something that can be openly discussed? PM maybe?

Well joined the site and sadly I have to screen out the semi-pros. I can't beiieve these chicks are asking crazy amounts for a meet up, most of these gals aren't even worth it.

It's fun all the same, testing out your skills against these delusional broads.

(02-04-2016 01:51 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Well joined the site and sadly I have to screen out the semi-pros. I can't beiieve these chicks are asking crazy amounts for a meet up, most of these gals aren't even worth it.

It's fun all the same, testing out your skills against these delusional broads.

Yes this is ultimate game (certainly for online anyway).

(02-04-2016 12:57 PM)toejam Wrote:  What hotels in NYC would you recommend for SA game? Is this something that can be openly discussed? PM maybe?

Search for hourly rate hotels. There's one close to the Standard hotel in MPD (I forgot the exact name, go on Yelp and look it up). I think it's about $80-100 for an hour or 2. Take her somewhere in MPD then bounce to that place. I have my own apartment so I'm not saying this from experience.. this is just what I'd do if I didn't have my own place here.

(02-04-2016 02:24 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:51 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Well joined the site and sadly I have to screen out the semi-pros. I can't beiieve these chicks are asking crazy amounts for a meet up, most of these gals aren't even worth it.

It's fun all the same, testing out your skills against these delusional broads.

Yes this is ultimate game (certainly for online anyway).

I've figured out a hack for the semi-pros. PM me for details. I don't want to give away the secret for these hos to read on here.

This is hitting mainstream, apparently many women signing up. The media seem to be finding a hard time of accepting this. Even the BBC seem to be strongly linking the girls on this to prostitutes, and that many of the girls are from wealthy backgrounds themselves. It's a rather honest article.

Quote:A leading sugar daddy app says it now has almost a quarter of a million UK students on its books.

Seeking Arrangement claims it's seen a 40% growth in the last year in young women joining.

The figures are based on email address sign-ups, so some accounts could be people with multiple accounts, while the term students includes part-time workers and trainees.

What's not clear either is how many of the users are "active" and go on dates.

Official figures released last month suggested a rise in crimes linked to dating apps and are also leading to an increase in the rates of sexually transmitted infections, according to doctors.

Last year a study found that more than a fifth of students had thought about being involved in the sex industry.

One in 20 students who took part said they'd worked either in glamour modelling, web-cam modelling, stripping or prostitution.

Seeking Arrangement says it aims to hooks up wealthy men with younger women.

It claims the most new sign-ups have come from the University of Portsmouth and the University of Kent.

The app makers say they believe the high cost of university fees and accommodation in the UK is making students look at new ways of making cash while studying.

There is evidence that suggests fewer students are working while in full-time education.

The Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) says its figures suggest 29% of 16 to 24-year-olds were working in 2015.

That's a 7% fall from 10 years earlier.

In November Newsbeat spoke with 20-year-old Clover Pittilla, from Bournemouth, who uses the site.

"It wasn't for chavy people, there is a certain standard they have to meet," she said.

"They are somewhere in life materially where they want to be and they just want to have fun now."

When the subject of sex came up she told us people are very open in the sugar daddy dating scene.

"Sometimes, sometimes [there is an expectation of sex]. But they are usually quite forward with that.

"They usually say it straight away. If that's what they want then that is what they want.

"But if that is not what I want, that is not what I am going to do.

"But if they are attractive or whatever and you wouldn't mind, then why not."

Despite these figures on the amount of students using sugar daddy apps, some of the comments, at the time, about Newsbeat's interview with Clover still suggested it was similar to prostitution.

Student Clover believes that's unfair.

"If you go on the internet, you see what people really thing of it.

"Some think it is like prostitution but it really isn't. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do."

The types of people signing up to sugar dating services do not seem to fall into a certain wealth or social class.

Seeking Arrangement claims 56% of university Sugar Babies come from middle and upper-middle class families.

A number of other sugar daddy apps are available.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/35...ing-to-app

Call one of these hoes a prostitute and she will go hamster.

She'll do anything to prove to you that she's not a hooker.

What do you guys think is a decent age to step onto sa I'm 27 but have a nice car and dress well.

^I'm 25 and have banged several on there. These are the golden years of SA. Easy to play the game now before it becomes a household name and it is over run with male competition. Milk it while you can.

You need some high quality game to this otherwise the girls will make a complete mug out of you. If you can produce results on other online apps or on daygame in real life on a consistent basis then go for it otherwise you'll find girls on this who will try every trick in the book to shame you and make a beta provider out of you over 20 dates and you wouldn't know where to go.

(02-09-2016 05:17 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Call one of these hoes a prostitute and she will go hamster.

She'll do anything to prove to you that she's not a hooker.

I love doing this . I just told a girl , I screen out the hookers who want money from me ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z400K8Sswh


stay safe American brahs....

(02-13-2016 10:06 PM)NeVerGymLess Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 05:17 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Call one of these hoes a prostitute and she will go hamster.

She'll do anything to prove to you that she's not a hooker.

I love doing this . I just told a girl , I screen out the hookers who want money from me ..

Go on son, do tell. These stories are hilarious.

A lot of these bitches type their profiles as if they're the prize. I might add this to my profile "Remember, there are 9 females for every male on SA. You're not the catch, I am."

(02-14-2016 03:12 AM)NeVerGymLess Wrote:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z400K8Sswh


stay safe American brahs....

I think they tried to blackmail him and he didn't take their offer. No one all of the sudden tells their parents "I had sex with someone over 18" on a random day. I speak from personal experience.

Also, I call BS on the "adult friend" thing. There are girls who are not 18 on SA, ALWAYS ASK FOR ID if they're young.

A year ago this girl claimed to be 18 and wanted to meet up. I was a bit taken back as a girl is not that forward and her looks. I ran her number on FB a couple of months later and surprise.....she had posted pictures of her recent 18th birthday party two weekends back.

I had escaped a bullet right there.

(01-04-2016 11:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  If you're actually a high value guy who can mentor someone junior, there are lots of girls who will want to date & sleep with you.

That's another great thing about SA. You can actually fuck with hos, especially the younger ones, for free. Giovonny mentioned this previously, they're sick of the cheap stuff they have so even Olive Garden is "classy" to them. The good thing is that there are many places better than OG with great food.

I mean, you can eat a meal at the place of your choice, and get laid by a hot bitch later...can it get any better than that?

One of them wanted me to give her advice on the industry I worked in, that's all.

(01-14-2016 08:31 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Sum dumb bish I met on SA was hamstering on me so I laughed and told her "You're dumb as fuck" and sent her this link.

She didn't say much, other than making a comment for writing about her. It's weird when a couple of girls know about my forum posts, yet they still want to LTR me.

(01-20-2016 01:00 PM)toejam Wrote:  My premium just expired. How long should I wait before the discount offers kick in? I haven't logged in since last week.

SA offers no discounts homie. I say go for the 6 month plan, it's the cheapest on a "per unit" basis. The good thing about SA is that they will hardly ban a paying male member, but they will ban a female more swiftly.

Fuck match.com, those fuckers just banned me again....that site had a through the roof response rate when I messaged Asian women in Houston, rich FOBs mostly.

(02-04-2016 12:52 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Learn to get wholesale hotel deals - "name your own price" functionality has gotten me some solid deals in both Boston, SoNH and NYC especially when there are no conventions in town - You have retail if you must have a specific hotel, express deals what they are willing to take and the name your own price deals - the local manager of the 3 star Radisson informed me that if I call him direct he will give me the same quoted price as priceline because Priceline takes 30% of the booking fee and charges extra for taxes and fees... so if you get friendly with the managers (Make an excuse to compliment an employee makes you look like a good guy he may give you 10% off a priceline express deals as he is still getting 20% more than Priceline.

I agree with DD here. Do not bring these broads to your home. That's just asking for trouble as they can raise hell by dropping by unannounced and knocking or being loud and throwing a fit when you dump them. Do you want your neighbors to know what you're doing?

If you do bring them home....
Play it off and say it's your second place that you use to lounge and cool off.

This comes in handy if you live with you have other people living with you (roommates) or the home is not "baller status". Let them know that they have to prove themselves to you so you can bring them into your "world". Until then, they will not get to your home but rather this cozy apartment that has the necessary things to fuck....a bed, a couch, and a kitchen.

Not shit, I've tried that before in an apartment and it works. It's all about frame.

(02-09-2016 06:40 PM)brob Wrote:  ^I'm 25 and have banged several on there. These are the golden years of SA. Easy to play the game now before it becomes a household name and it is over run with male competition. Milk it while you can.

It's already getting there bro. Nowadays a lot of fat sluts with neon hair and "pansexuals" that will only meetup without physical contact are getting on SA.


Also, remember that this thread will possibly get transferred to the private forum later tomorrow.

Cattle Rustler, seventeen is the age of consent in Texas. You lost me with one of your recent posts in this thread. The problem is, you can legally bang her, but not give her alcohol or legally possess the naked pictures she sends you. Probably best to avoid regardless of what the law says.

(02-14-2016 03:55 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  Cattle Rustler, seventeen is the age of consent in Texas. You lost me with one of your recent posts in this thread. The problem is, you can legally bang her, but not give her alcohol or legally possess the naked pictures she sends you. Probably best to avoid regardless of what the law says.

I thought ages 14-17 was legal as long as the age difference was not over 4 years.

i,e "She's 17, I'm 21...that's OK"
"She's 17, I'm 22....not OK"

There have been some instances back in high school where the parents called the cops and got the guy in trouble. Something about "Statutory sex" or something like that.

The law is confusing down here. Thanks for clarifying that.

The law and I have had a few run-ins in the past and I try to steer clear any issues. They'll get any chance to get me and I prefer to keep my freedom.

Except when it comes to speeding, I lost to an X5 the other day on I-45. My car topped out at 130 and the BMW kept on going...it makes me wonder how fast those BMW SUVs can go. Might need a cougar's car to find out.

Cattle Rustler on a bad day:


Cattle Rustler on a great day....or my normal commute.

^^^
My understanding is that 17 is always legal and that 14 to 16 can be legal as long as the age difference is not more than three years. I've always lived in places where the age of consent was 16 and the youngest girl I've ever been with was 18 years, 3 months. Also, Cattle Rustler, shoot for Las Vegas on cinco de mayo weekend this year. Not too many pipopes, but plenty of tapatias, chilangas, and everything else.

Fucked a 7.5 Chinese girl (23 year old student) on this on Friday night no more than an hour within meeting her, see the Just Had Sex thread. Quite possibly my best bang of the year thus far, I don't think she's been fucked like that before. There was no LMR whatsoever she was in fact urging me on to have sex with her, "do you have a condom?".

Planned a date with a girl for tonight. I saw that she called me. You know what that means. Eventually I called her back played the usual rich but not provider game to her. She eventually spelled out as expected that she's looking for an "allowance", i.e. she's a prostitute. I laughed it off gave her a story and told her I'm not looking a prostitute. I've managed to get this to work a few times and their hamster will spin about it and they'll eventually be happy to meet you on your terms. [Even if you do meet them though you need to be aware of what you're meeting, you need to be on grade A game that night as they will try to shame you and put you back into the allowance category.]

Anyway this girl said OK thanks and goodbye. There were then two ways for it to progress: 1) either her hamster will spin and she will change her mind and think "why not" as she feels she's missing out on something 2) shame the living fuck out of you about how the website is for prostitutes like her and you should go to match.com. She went for the latter, sending me texts telling me this is not the right website for me. Women on SA love shaming. So I blocked her. Who the fuck is she kidding anyway.

The other thing women on this usually do, I have heard it dozens of time now: "I have just came out of a long term relationship (and it was all about the guy) so I'm not looking for anything serious and don't have time for a relationship". It's always the same story.

It's refreshing to sometimes go on OKCupid and not deal with this shit. This website has it's ups and downs that's for sure.

For some reason shaming does get to me when the girl is facing a legit issue (foreclosure, repo)....but I never beta bux.

Either way, I gave her the night or hours of a lifetime. Bitches call me fun so at least they get to be happy for a while.

Anyone here ever successfully turned a girl trying to ask for financial favors around into a longer term FB?

I banged this nice 24 yo last week. Had her screaming all manner of ways. It was top notch indoor olympics. It was a seamless first date, she didn't ask for anything at all. She spent the night, again in morning and I dropped her off the next day. She's pretty new on the site too

Today, I go for the second date as we'd agreed upon today last week and she texts "so are you down to be a sugar daddy?"

I think 'this damn girl, orgasming all over my bed pulls this shit'. It's almost as if, they feel compelled to bring it up just cause they're on the site.

I text her back "only if you call me daddy sometime. do you like tacos?" because I want mexican and then to come back here.

I haven't heard back from her yet but just texted that.

If anyone has a technique or would rather share it via PM so it's not on this thread, I'd love to hear ideas.