(10-24-2015 08:15 PM)Gringuito Wrote:(10-24-2015 07:33 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:(10-24-2015 07:19 PM)Gringuito Wrote:(10-24-2015 06:58 PM)cosworth Wrote: There really is all sorts on this website .. Some girls definitely don't need the money. One girl I've been seeing comes from a wealthy family and travels everywhere in business or first. Had a date with another girl and we got talking about aviation. She casually mentioned her parents own a private jet .. Or a small 7 seat plane with engines at the back up high ! Its basically a Lear Jet or Citation I'm guessing.
So multi-millionaire hot girls are on this website looking to hook up with non-wealthy guys? Or are they hoping to find someone at their same level of wealth or more?
Here there are girls from wealthy-ish families that can't find a guy to provide them with the same standard of living that Daddy did.
They're using the site to find a boyfriend.
I've never been on the website. My impression was it was filled with escorts and gold diggers mostly. You learn something new everyday. If a girls parents own a 7 seat private jet they are more than wealthy-ish. That would put them at very high 8 figures or more normally.
If a wealthy(ish) girl is looking for a boyfriend to date up, I think she'd have a hard time. I would think the wealthy guys on the website would rather avoid the wealthy women and just go for the regular attractive ones. A spoiled wealthy girl can be a pain in the ass if she knows you have money.
(10-24-2015 07:33 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:(10-24-2015 07:19 PM)Gringuito Wrote:(10-24-2015 06:58 PM)cosworth Wrote: There really is all sorts on this website .. Some girls definitely don't need the money. One girl I've been seeing comes from a wealthy family and travels everywhere in business or first. Had a date with another girl and we got talking about aviation. She casually mentioned her parents own a private jet .. Or a small 7 seat plane with engines at the back up high ! Its basically a Lear Jet or Citation I'm guessing.
So multi-millionaire hot girls are on this website looking to hook up with non-wealthy guys? Or are they hoping to find someone at their same level of wealth or more?
Here there are girls from wealthy-ish families that can't find a guy to provide them with the same standard of living that Daddy did.
They're using the site to find a boyfriend.
(10-25-2015 11:30 PM)robreke Wrote: I got with a girl off SA tonight. Afterwards she was kind of hinting at payment and I told her we could discuss that the next time we met as we didn't talk about it this time.
After I ordered her an uber, she sent a somewhat ugly text saying she didn't feel the chemistry and felt "jipped" because we met on a SD site. I was going to send a text back saying the whole SD thing was new to me and I'm still learning how to do it ( basically a damage control text) So, text or no text/ reply?? We got together in my apartment btw...
It's the next guys problem now.(10-25-2015 11:30 PM)robreke Wrote: I got with a girl off SA tonight. Afterwards she was kind of hinting at payment and I told her we could discuss that the next time we met as we didn't talk about it this time.
After I ordered her an uber, she sent a somewhat ugly text saying she didn't feel the chemistry and felt "jipped" because we met on a SD site. I was going to send a text back saying the whole SD thing was new to me and I'm still learning how to do it ( basically a damage control text) So, text or no text/ reply?? We got together in my apartment btw...
(10-26-2015 10:05 AM)robreke Wrote: ^Wrighter - there was no talk of money before hand. We were making out on the couch , she said she was going to the bathroom and I could wait for her in my bed room if I wanted and I obliged.
^Mentavious...Her text , in a sense, makes it sound consensual in that she 'didn't feel chemistry' and I could 'get a freebie off someone else next time' and that she felt 'jipped' so that insinuates , what it was, consensual. I don't know whether to text her a 'playing dumb' text today or not. I thought maybe so but also don't want to kick a bees nest.
(10-20-2015 05:24 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote: Most these guys will pay for a month then try and get a real relationship with her. If you're making 250 K + a year , it;s not a big deal dropping 2 k on a hot 19 year old for a month of fucking . But most guys leave . Girls brag to me about how they got 5 to 8 K a month from SD's then I laugh and ask them why they left ?
(11-03-2015 09:30 PM)travolta Wrote: Update: I've been using this site for a couple of weeks now. I'm recently out of a 13 month relationship so my game is a bit rusty. Anyway, I went on 5 dates so far. Nothing happened on any of them. It's good experience though. Just now I went out with this model chick. Made out with her but couldn't get her home. I'll likely see her again though.
Value I can offer you: not getting laid on dates is my own fault, but my technique on the site has been pretty solid. I list very explicitly that I'm not interested in being a sugar daddy. I usually get messaged by random girls every day or 2 saying how they like my honesty. I can't give any specific lines I use on my profile since my angle is unique and the pool of girls isn't too big.
As for my pictures: I use lots of travel pictures (show's I live an interesting life), have a picture with friends (show's I have friends and am not a creep), have a picture with a foreign girl I fucked (shows social proof), and have a picture of me dressed well in a suit (this balances out all of my travel and adventure photos where I'm dressed like shit by showing I have class). Girls often message me and comment on my photos.
I'm going to keep using this site and going on failed dates. Eventually I'll improve my closing rate. Using SA has been a good way for me to get back into things after a long relationship/shitty breakup. I'll give another update on my experience with this site as I go on more dates.
(11-03-2015 10:37 PM)HankMoody Wrote: Why not just use a free site like OkCupid, especially if you're not interested in being a sugar daddy?
(11-03-2015 11:09 PM)travolta Wrote:(11-03-2015 10:37 PM)HankMoody Wrote: Why not just use a free site like OkCupid, especially if you're not interested in being a sugar daddy?
OkCupid used to allow you to list your income, I'd put something like $1M (which wasn't true at the time). On SA I also put my income much higher than it is. When OKC listed income my response rate was extremely high, now that it's gone my response rate is shit. On SA my response rate is super high. Also SA has way hotter girls, and most reply to me.
Messaging hot girls on free dating sites and getting them to actually meet you in person is like trying to extract blood from a stone.
(11-04-2015 12:19 AM)HankMoody Wrote:(11-03-2015 11:09 PM)travolta Wrote:(11-03-2015 10:37 PM)HankMoody Wrote: Why not just use a free site like OkCupid, especially if you're not interested in being a sugar daddy?
OkCupid used to allow you to list your income, I'd put something like $1M (which wasn't true at the time). On SA I also put my income much higher than it is. When OKC listed income my response rate was extremely high, now that it's gone my response rate is shit. On SA my response rate is super high. Also SA has way hotter girls, and most reply to me.
Messaging hot girls on free dating sites and getting them to actually meet you in person is like trying to extract blood from a stone.
I've gotten plenty of bangs off OkCupid. This book was actually immensely helpful:
http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-OKCupid-M...B00TMI22G6
I make good money (self employed), and don't have many expenses. When I first got back into the dating game after a failed one year relationship, my confidence completely shaken. I figured money was most of what I brought to the table. On dates, I'd always wear a suit, cufflinks, an expensive watch, and make sure to take my dates to expensive fancy restaurants. I even considered Seeking Arrangement after consistently getting blown out by 4s and 5s who I'd met on OkCupid.
What I've learned is that throwing money at women is a needlessly expensive, short term, ineffective fix for a bigger problem. It will probably get you bangs here and there, but the cost significantly outweighs the benefit. Simply put, you're overpaying for sex.
Consider this. The women you meet on Seeking Arrangement are usually blowing Johnny the hot drummer on the side. A guy who bought her a few shots at the local watering hole, and then couldn't be bothered to return her texts the next day because cartoons are on. He paid $4 for some shots, and gets sex whenever he wants it. She pursues him for sex. You on the other hand are stuck taking her to expensive restaurants, giving her an allowance, buying her things, etc., and the sex you get isn't as frequent or passionate as what Johnny is getting. You're paying significantly more, only to receive less. That's because she actually desires Johnny. She does not desire you, but will capitulate sex for money.
The same women you'll meet on Seeking Arrangement are the ones who will sap up your money, enjoy a trip across the country, and then blow the bartender at the place where you took her about the night before. You're sinking a big investment into a group of low quality, albeit hot, women who otherwise will give sex away for free.
I know this because I'm friends with women who have accounts on the site now. We do shots and laugh about the stories. Awkward beta males investing heavily for sex that is at the same time given away freely to total degenerates.
To quote the Rational Male, you cannot negotiate desire. Women either desire you, or they don't. Money does not equate to actual desire, although sometimes having it results in sex.
In my opinion, you'll get better results in the long run developing game to actually attract women, rather wasting your money for a commodity that is freely available. It takes time, you'll get blown out, your ego will take some hits, but it's well worth it in the long run.
(11-04-2015 12:28 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:(11-04-2015 12:19 AM)HankMoody Wrote:(11-03-2015 11:09 PM)travolta Wrote:(11-03-2015 10:37 PM)HankMoody Wrote: Why not just use a free site like OkCupid, especially if you're not interested in being a sugar daddy?
OkCupid used to allow you to list your income, I'd put something like $1M (which wasn't true at the time). On SA I also put my income much higher than it is. When OKC listed income my response rate was extremely high, now that it's gone my response rate is shit. On SA my response rate is super high. Also SA has way hotter girls, and most reply to me.
Messaging hot girls on free dating sites and getting them to actually meet you in person is like trying to extract blood from a stone.
I've gotten plenty of bangs off OkCupid. This book was actually immensely helpful:
http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-OKCupid-M...B00TMI22G6
I make good money (self employed), and don't have many expenses. When I first got back into the dating game after a failed one year relationship, my confidence completely shaken. I figured money was most of what I brought to the table. On dates, I'd always wear a suit, cufflinks, an expensive watch, and make sure to take my dates to expensive fancy restaurants. I even considered Seeking Arrangement after consistently getting blown out by 4s and 5s who I'd met on OkCupid.
What I've learned is that throwing money at women is a needlessly expensive, short term, ineffective fix for a bigger problem. It will probably get you bangs here and there, but the cost significantly outweighs the benefit. Simply put, you're overpaying for sex.
Consider this. The women you meet on Seeking Arrangement are usually blowing Johnny the hot drummer on the side. A guy who bought her a few shots at the local watering hole, and then couldn't be bothered to return her texts the next day because cartoons are on. He paid $4 for some shots, and gets sex whenever he wants it. She pursues him for sex. You on the other hand are stuck taking her to expensive restaurants, giving her an allowance, buying her things, etc., and the sex you get isn't as frequent or passionate as what Johnny is getting. You're paying significantly more, only to receive less. That's because she actually desires Johnny. She does not desire you, but will capitulate sex for money.
The same women you'll meet on Seeking Arrangement are the ones who will sap up your money, enjoy a trip across the country, and then blow the bartender at the place where you took her about the night before. You're sinking a big investment into a group of low quality, albeit hot, women who otherwise will give sex away for free.
I know this because I'm friends with women who have accounts on the site now. We do shots and laugh about the stories. Awkward beta males investing heavily for sex that is at the same time given away freely to total degenerates.
To quote the Rational Male, you cannot negotiate desire. Women either desire you, or they don't. Money does not equate to actual desire, although sometimes having it results in sex.
In my opinion, you'll get better results in the long run developing game to actually attract women, rather wasting your money for a commodity that is freely available. It takes time, you'll get blown out, your ego will take some hits, but it's well worth it in the long run.
I don't think you've read most of the thread. The overwhelming majority of it has been dedicated to how to get sex with little to no actual money spent using merely the implication that it will be
(11-04-2015 12:37 AM)HankMoody Wrote: I have not read most of the thread. Maybe I will. Sort of procrastinating preparing for a hearing tomorrow.
If that's the case, eh. I'm not sure I want to spend time around, or even banging, women who have the expectation of getting taken care of financially. This seems like it could cause needless drama, fake rape allegations, or I don't know what but I don't want to find out...
(11-04-2015 12:46 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:(11-04-2015 12:37 AM)HankMoody Wrote: I have not read most of the thread. Maybe I will. Sort of procrastinating preparing for a hearing tomorrow.
If that's the case, eh. I'm not sure I want to spend time around, or even banging, women who have the expectation of getting taken care of financially. This seems like it could cause needless drama, fake rape allegations, or I don't know what but I don't want to find out...
There's been a mixed bag of success as well as all of your above reported in the thread
(11-04-2015 12:37 AM)HankMoody Wrote: If that's the case, eh. I'm not sure I want to spend time around, or even banging, women who have the expectation of getting taken care of financially. This seems like it could cause needless drama, fake rape allegations, or I don't know what but I don't want to find out...
(11-04-2015 12:37 AM)HankMoody Wrote:(11-04-2015 12:28 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:(11-04-2015 12:19 AM)HankMoody Wrote:(11-03-2015 11:09 PM)travolta Wrote:(11-03-2015 10:37 PM)HankMoody Wrote: Why not just use a free site like OkCupid, especially if you're not interested in being a sugar daddy?
OkCupid used to allow you to list your income, I'd put something like $1M (which wasn't true at the time). On SA I also put my income much higher than it is. When OKC listed income my response rate was extremely high, now that it's gone my response rate is shit. On SA my response rate is super high. Also SA has way hotter girls, and most reply to me.
Messaging hot girls on free dating sites and getting them to actually meet you in person is like trying to extract blood from a stone.
I've gotten plenty of bangs off OkCupid. This book was actually immensely helpful:
http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-OKCupid-M...B00TMI22G6
I make good money (self employed), and don't have many expenses. When I first got back into the dating game after a failed one year relationship, my confidence completely shaken. I figured money was most of what I brought to the table. On dates, I'd always wear a suit, cufflinks, an expensive watch, and make sure to take my dates to expensive fancy restaurants. I even considered Seeking Arrangement after consistently getting blown out by 4s and 5s who I'd met on OkCupid.
What I've learned is that throwing money at women is a needlessly expensive, short term, ineffective fix for a bigger problem. It will probably get you bangs here and there, but the cost significantly outweighs the benefit. Simply put, you're overpaying for sex.
Consider this. The women you meet on Seeking Arrangement are usually blowing Johnny the hot drummer on the side. A guy who bought her a few shots at the local watering hole, and then couldn't be bothered to return her texts the next day because cartoons are on. He paid $4 for some shots, and gets sex whenever he wants it. She pursues him for sex. You on the other hand are stuck taking her to expensive restaurants, giving her an allowance, buying her things, etc., and the sex you get isn't as frequent or passionate as what Johnny is getting. You're paying significantly more, only to receive less. That's because she actually desires Johnny. She does not desire you, but will capitulate sex for money.
The same women you'll meet on Seeking Arrangement are the ones who will sap up your money, enjoy a trip across the country, and then blow the bartender at the place where you took her about the night before. You're sinking a big investment into a group of low quality, albeit hot, women who otherwise will give sex away for free.
I know this because I'm friends with women who have accounts on the site now. We do shots and laugh about the stories. Awkward beta males investing heavily for sex that is at the same time given away freely to total degenerates.
To quote the Rational Male, you cannot negotiate desire. Women either desire you, or they don't. Money does not equate to actual desire, although sometimes having it results in sex.
In my opinion, you'll get better results in the long run developing game to actually attract women, rather wasting your money for a commodity that is freely available. It takes time, you'll get blown out, your ego will take some hits, but it's well worth it in the long run.
I don't think you've read most of the thread. The overwhelming majority of it has been dedicated to how to get sex with little to no actual money spent using merely the implication that it will be
I have not read most of the thread. Maybe I will. Sort of procrastinating preparing for a hearing tomorrow.
