(11-13-2015 02:36 PM)C-Note Wrote:  Of the thirty or so women I met from the site, I would say 6-7 met this description. I had no idea until I actually met them and talked to them for a few minutes that this is what they were looking for. Once I met them and they saw my clothing style, confident demeanor, and ability to engage their emotions, they made it clear to me within 30 minutes that they were DTF. These were the best lays I had off of SA because the only costs involved were for their drinks, and maybe their parking. Otherwise, they were completely satisfied with the rogering they received.

So in other words you did pay the other 23 or so women?

(11-13-2015 02:43 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 02:36 PM)C-Note Wrote:  Of the thirty or so women I met from the site, I would say 6-7 met this description. I had no idea until I actually met them and talked to them for a few minutes that this is what they were looking for. Once I met them and they saw my clothing style, confident demeanor, and ability to engage their emotions, they made it clear to me within 30 minutes that they were DTF. These were the best lays I had off of SA because the only costs involved were for their drinks, and maybe their parking. Otherwise, they were completely satisfied with the rogering they received.

So in other words you did pay the other 23 or so women?

Nope, but I had to deal with them asking, "So, what kind of arrangement are you looking for?" or "If we decide on an arrangement, how will you be taking care of me?" In those instances, I outright lied and said whatever I thought they wanted to hear. I never paid any of them anything, but they were more likely to order food while we were on the date or ask to meet for dinner rather than for drinks at the bar. Also, even though some of the other 23 didn't mention money on the first date, they eventually started asking for it or asked me to buy them gifts, which necessitated me dumping them immediately, which was disappointing.

In one case, with a thin, feminine black girl (yes, they do exist), she said she was hungry so I bought her dinner. Then, when we were making out in my hotel room she stopped and asked me, "So, does this mean we have an arrangement and, if so, for how much?" I said, calmly and detached, of course, "Sure, I'll give you $2,000 a month." She relaxed and we banged. I exchanged one text message with her the next day then never texted her again and she didn't pursue me. That's how it goes with SA.

It's much more pleasant to meet a girl who just wants to fuck a guy who "gets it" than one you have to lie to in order to get past her hamster. Of the preferred category, I actually had one girl tell me, without me asking, after we banged (and it was a total fuckfest) that she was ovulating and just wanted to bang a successful, cool guy and didn't care about money. Now, that's a good memory.

One important thing you all need to remember to do is to create a persona on SA that indicates that you're looking for someone to serve YOU in your life, not the other way around. You're looking for someone to add value to your life of high-status and success and that anyone who can't do that is useless to you. Then, when you agree to meet these women, make it clear that the meet is a variation of a job interview. Consider going so far as to tell them that you will judge them on the clothes they wear to the meet, if they have any visible tattoos, and how pleasant is their demeanor and conversation skills. Then, when you show up, don't be a glib asshole but make it clear that unless they impress you they aren't going to be invited to be part of your life. That's not the only way to operate SA game but it's one of the best ways to make it work for you.

The doofuses that are currently running the SA site have, as mentioned earlier in this thread, started telling the women on the SA blog that they need to be upfront about the terms of the arrangement and other nonsense like that. You need to get the women out of that mindset as quickly as possible and into your frame. If they refuse, next them, because there are plenty of women on the site.

I think mid 2015 women (at least in southern california) got a big lesson from online dating in general, nobody is DTF anymore. SA is so different now than it was in the summer.

(11-13-2015 02:36 PM)C-Note Wrote:  In my experience, about 10-20% of the women in SA aren't using it to try to get money, they use it as a resource to try to fuck status guys when they're ovulating. As you know, when women are ovulating they lust for alpha fucks. Guys with status are one version of alpha fucks. Women like this on SA are very disappointed that more of the supposed rich, ambitious guys on the site end up being so beta.

The problem is that the women who want to use SA just to fuck an alpha male don't usually come out and say it in their profile. The only way to find them is to exchange texts or messages with them. If they don't ask about money up front, and suddenly start messaging you a lot after a week or so of desultory attention, then they're looking for alpha cock. All you have to do is show up and run standard mid-game, and they're yours for the night fairly easily. In my experience, they will rarely, if ever, ask for money before or after the date. They just need the dominant dick.

If you see an SA profile that says she is looking for "mentor" or a "lifecoach" or something like that, she may fall into this category. Otherwise, you just have to contact them, make sure you set-up a persona that indicates that you're not a chump looking to give money for nothing, and go with the flow when they all of a sudden they ask if you're available to meet.

Of the thirty or so women I met from the site, I would say 6-7 met this description. I had no idea until I actually met them and talked to them for a few minutes that this is what they were looking for. Once I met them and they saw my clothing style, confident demeanor, and ability to engage their emotions, they made it clear to me within 30 minutes that they were DTF. These were the best lays I had off of SA because the only costs involved were for their drinks, and maybe their parking. Otherwise, they were completely satisfied with the rogering they received.

Sure 10% of the women here just wanna fuck high status guy or just have no idea what they are doing. But u cant factor that in at all, gotta treat them all the same or you end up wasting a shit ton of time just to find out they want money

(09-12-2015 04:55 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(05-09-2015 03:09 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

(05-09-2015 04:13 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I told her no. Can you?

I've had girls send me unsolicited photos like this on SA. I assumed they were pros and didn't respond.

This is old, but I was not talking solely about photos.

My point is this; Can you say no to that hotbox when she demands something of you.

Pictures are only good to see if she is worth your time. Meet her in person.

Never fold to their demands,

Never

Yep. The key to SA:
Never fold to their demands,

Never

I've never met a girl on SA that asked for anything on a first or second date, much less demanded it. After fucking them a few times they might ask for sushi when we go out but that's about it. They just want to be around Alpha guys.

SA has been interesting for me. I build up my profile and got really good pictures up. I've been getting messaged around 4-8 times a day by random girls. Most of these girls are either from far away, old, or ugly. Sometimes cute ones will message me first though.. those are the easiest lays obviously. Keep in mind I'm in NYC so there are plenty of girls on SA here.

I usually message them first, then get their phone number after 1 or 2 more messages. I'll then text them with my name and a picture of myself. I've been trying to schedule 2 or 3 girls at a time because there are a shit load of flakes. Perhaps if I text them more they'd flake less, but I can't be bothered to have a texting conversation with a girl who might not even show up.

Overall SA has been pretty good for easy pussy, but I would never date one of these girls seriously (I'm only after sex so this doesn't matter to me right now).

In comparison to regular chicks, are SA girls harder to game?

If they're new, no.

If they've been on there, yes. They have already been pumped and dumped RVF style.

This is not always the case. However I always order my searches "newest profile first"

Yes agreed. If they are experienced in SA some will do anything to try to get what they want out of you, including waiting until they are at your place or literally your dick in their hand before asking for money. I've heard of some even asking suddenly for money after the sex. This is why you must make sure they are not a prostitute before the date in text.

I've seen first hand also various shaming techniques to try to make you pay for their dinner even sometimes just straight out telling the waiter without informing me. The experienced big city girls from New York and London are usually the worst, even if you are a good looking guy many just see the dollar signs, those type of girls are just vapid prostitutes.

Stick to the new girls unless you are pretty advanced in game.

(12-06-2015 02:37 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  Yes agreed. If they are experienced in SA some will do anything to try to get what they want out of you, including waiting until they are at your place or literally your dick in their hand before asking for money. I've heard of some even asking suddenly for money after the sex. This is why you must make sure they are not a prostitute before the date in text.

I've seen first hand also various shaming techniques to try to make you pay for their dinner even sometimes just straight out telling the waiter without informing me. The experienced big city girls from New York and London are usually the worst, even if you are a good looking guy many just see the dollar signs, those type of girls are just vapid prostitutes.

Stick to the new girls unless you are pretty advanced in game.

I don't think SA play is really possible for those new to game.

It's like an intermidiate-game shit test.

(12-06-2015 05:36 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:37 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  Yes agreed. If they are experienced in SA some will do anything to try to get what they want out of you, including waiting until they are at your place or literally your dick in their hand before asking for money. I've heard of some even asking suddenly for money after the sex. This is why you must make sure they are not a prostitute before the date in text.

I've seen first hand also various shaming techniques to try to make you pay for their dinner even sometimes just straight out telling the waiter without informing me. The experienced big city girls from New York and London are usually the worst, even if you are a good looking guy many just see the dollar signs, those type of girls are just vapid prostitutes.

Stick to the new girls unless you are pretty advanced in game.

I don't think SA play is really possible for those new to game.

It's like an intermidiate-game shit test.

Yes I agree beginner guys should first master normal online game like OKCupid/Tinder get a number of notches under their belts for 6 months to a year before even thinking about this otherwise they'll be annihilated.

SA is a great thing. I mean I can see the rush of getting these girls to fuck you without spending a dime, but SA really is a goldmine for a guy who has achieved some success in life and doesn't let himself get whipped by these pussies. I've been doing great on there lately.

I had a hot Polish chick fly in to visit me for the weekend, took out a Russian on a simple dinner date to a normal Italian place and fucked her on the 2nd date, now talking with a Serbian about flying her in. The cost of the flights is 0 to me since I do it with credit card spend points anyway... it's fucking gold. I just make sure in the texts to ask them what they're expecting. I tell them I have no issue about them getting paid allowance by another dude but that I'm not that kind of guy - yet. Then I tell them that I travel a lot and that I can take them with me on mini vacations if they want (actually is true). Some of you guys might disagree, but if you have a conference in a city where female talent is low and prices are high (let's say Toronto), flying in a chick from SA will be cheaper than going to clubs and spend it on tables or waste time trying to hunt chicks.

without a premium account, if you send an SA check a message with your email address do they actually get it? or is your email address hidden?
i have yet to read info on here about whether the premium is worth it....but im new here and still reading this thread

also,
is there anyway to pay for premium membership with a prepaid credit card?
im researching that option as well but would like more immediate answers if there is such a way

still reading this thread from the beginning in hopes of finding an answer...

it has been discussed before. read the whole thread.

Without saying too much, I cannot thank some of you guys enough for the intel on here.

This simply has been a mindblowing eye-opening experience.

I will report back........

For those who live or are visiting Europe then I would def suggest using this site. It's a putang buffet for a cost of a train ticket.

Holy shit , just signed up to OKcupid and POF , just to see the talent on it . HOLY Fuck , SA only for me .

I'm banging an 8 asian girl from SA, she's 21. She's in love with me. Not too bad at all. I have gone back to Happn and Tinder for new girls now and I find it much easier after working with all the tough nuts to crack on SA. It has certainly raised my game even despite it being fucking frustrating at times with all the many prostitutes, entitlements and flakes.

I'm not spending any money on these vapid girls. If you do, you are compensating for your game. At most I'm paying for drinks. I'm spending it on myself on haircut, fashion and looking and feeling good.

I met a girl on Tinder yesterday a zero date bang. Her eyes dropped to the floor as soon as she saw me in some trendy gear. That date cost me about 5 cents for the sip of Evian water she drank at my place.

Don't fall into the frame of paying for their taxis on the way to you.

The less you spend on these initial dates with good results the better your game is.

(12-11-2015 08:28 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  I'm banging an 8 asian girl from SA, she's 21. She's in love with me. Not too bad at all. I have gone back to Happn and Tinder for new girls now and I find it much easier after working with all the tough nuts to crack on SA. It has certainly raised my game even despite it being fucking frustrating at times with all the many prostitutes, entitlements and flakes.

I'm not spending any money on these vapid girls. If you do, you are compensating for your game. At most I'm paying for drinks. I'm spending it on myself on haircut, fashion and looking and feeling good.

I met a girl on Tinder yesterday a zero date bang. Her eyes dropped to the floor as soon as she saw me in some trendy gear. That date cost me about 5 cents for the sip of Evian water she drank at my place.

Don't fall into the frame of paying for their taxis on the way to you.

The less you spend on these initial dates with good results the better your game is.

Ah Vincent, it was not but a few months ago where we heard you swear off SA as the domain of P4P only and OKC being the true salvation... how the times have changed my friend, how they have changed!

My experience using SA in Europe:

First off I'm in my late 20s so I had to put my age in the low 30s. Quite a few girls called me out on it but I just told them black don't crack/my diet is amazing.

I spent my time based in Germany for work so girls would either come visit me or i would go visit them. I've found that most girls on the site come from Western Europe and Poland. Netherlands, Finland, Poland, and Britain were my best countries by far with Netherlands and Finland being on top. Low tier model quality was easy to get to meet and bang. From what I've been told, there are lots of old farts or dudes who are perves. These girls just want a solid dude to fuck and go out with.

Best thing about Europe is that distance really is no issue as most of Europe is a short 2 hour flight or 5hr train ride away from Germany. Other than that, just go at it like how you would in America.

Signed up on tuesday and friday night im balls deep in an 18 y/o. Had a hotel lined up. We go like 3 rounds before I send her off.
Saturday I had drinks with a 7, this ill smash as soon as I can get a hotel again, she doesn't love alone. I had another date with an asian 8. She is boring but cute, doesnt drink. Ill probably pass for now. Both were 19 and 20 y/o.
Sunday and Monday i had two more drink dates. 19 y/o.

My problem is not having a place to smash. But I wanted to get into SA game, polish up before going for the harder pulls.

A few pages back there was talk about getting phone numbers. I find it easy to get numbers off SA. I just ask for it after a few random chats usually within the same day. But my target has been 18 to 20.

SA is on point, but like I did in another thread, I don't have my own place so it will be expensive in the long run.
Thursday in supposed to meet a chubby 20 y/o. I told her she looked young and I can't take her out until I confirm her age. So im headed to the bronx and ill smash there, I already told her to get alcohol becsuse I make awesome drinks.
She said she lives with her 18yo sister. if her sister is cute ill have to run game on the sister.

Go redirected here but do you SA users see the supply drying up?? Last year I scored like 20 bangs there but as time went on it takes more work
I have met all kinds some cool some not so cool.most that were cool were looking for sex for sure. I was shocked at first how it went down but i would say that women almost put no value anymore on their body and value of sex. Its really making me rethink relationships and where we are headed. I question some as the the real motive but sometimes almost feel bad for them.

Whats your response to
"I got evicted"

Number closed this chick. Going back and forth via text. Everything looks promising, she's LOL-ing and haha-ing for a few days. In mid text convo she says she got evicted. Buzz kill

My conditioning the past few years has me out of the loop for these "woe-is-me" situations