I guess you guys can start a new thread on a non-public area of the forum.

I just cranked up a SA profile after recently moving into a new pad and buying a new ride and making some decent coin. The first week has been eye opening. I have to stop messaging girls because I have way too many prospects. I now understand what its like to be a hot chick on match or POF or whatever. Would love to get this thread cranking again on somewhere private.

(05-19-2016 10:54 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  I just cranked up a SA profile after recently moving into a new pad and buying a new ride and making some decent coin. The first week has been eye opening. I have to stop messaging girls because I have way too many prospects. I now understand what its like to be a hot chick on match or POF or whatever. Would love to get this thread cranking again on somewhere private.

It depends on the city, but a good percentage of them will flake when you start pressing to meet. Still have to use tight text game and dominant frame.

It's weird, I find I actually get more flakes if I appear too dominant. These girls are creeped out by most of the guys on the site...

(05-20-2016 03:32 PM)goodington Wrote:  It's weird, I find I actually get more flakes if I appear too dominant. These girls are creeped out by most of the guys on the site...

I don't believe you

Girls are the masters of analysing congruence.

Just starting to line up some dates now - couple questions for you guys...

1) Do you try and steer dates towards Fri/Sat so there is less of a 'its a school night mentality' and its easier to get the bang the first night?
2) How do you dress? Suited up? Nice jeans? Just curious on a couple of points.

I live near a few decent spots so I'm going to try and bring these chicks back to my upscale bachelor pad (in my nice car) - hoping that wont be a bad move.

(05-22-2016 10:16 PM)vinman Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 03:32 PM)goodington Wrote:  It's weird, I find I actually get more flakes if I appear too dominant. These girls are creeped out by most of the guys on the site...

I don't believe you

I understand what he's saying. Many of the guys on the site try to play "rich, asshole game" and don't know how to do it right, according to what some of the girls told me. Those are the ones that run off quite a few of the women.

If the date doesn't work out, what are your options for the rest of the night?

SA game needs a system even more than regular game because you're dealing with a chick with pro tendencies, if not outright in the game.

WIA

(05-24-2016 09:16 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  If the date doesn't work out, what are your options for the rest of the night?

SA game needs a system even more than regular game because you're dealing with a chick with pro tendencies, if not outright in the game.

WIA

Similarities to "shoring" aside, what if someone tries SA, goes on a date with a girl after booking a room somewhere, and it doesn't work out?

He's left hanging with a credit card charge for something he's not going to utilize in the way he intended in the first place. I know we don't talk about p4p here, but he might as well have paid a hooker with that money.

Sure, you could risk it by bringing SA girls back to your place, but in the age of false rape accusations, why would you want to do this given the real risk of pissing the girl off if you bang her without paying an allowance?

No offense to the guys actually doing SA though. I like to think my game is slowly improving by the week or by the month, but to think it is at the point where I can consistently pull girls off SA to my home for free without pissing someone off along the way would be borderline delusional on my part.

That's why I don't do SA here.

How I would play the already paid for hotel

- hotel near good nightlife as my plan B
- meet early 6

If good meet,
- come upstairs lemme grab my jacket.
- have her break the threshold
- then go out, leave the hotel
- run game and back to the hotel

If bad meet
- say goodbye
- run game at nearby nightlife, not worry about drinking

This is also how you make your Tinder/OkCupid dates more efficient. Start the date early, feel her out, drop her if you're not feeling her, and be able to hit the spots.

WIA

(05-24-2016 09:37 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  How I would play the already paid for hotel

- hotel near good nightlife as my plan B
- meet early 6

If good meet,
- come upstairs lemme grab my jacket.
- have her break the threshold
- then go out, leave the hotel
- run game and back to the hotel

If bad meet
- say goodbye
- run game at nearby nightlife, not worry about drinking

This is also how you make your Tinder/OkCupid dates more efficient. Start the date early, feel her out, drop her if you're not feeling her, and be able to hit the spots.

WIA

This is the only downside of using Hotel Tonight.

There cannot be any doubt of what is happening once we go to the hotel. Of course things can still happen, but once the hotel is booked its basically on.

Having a woman cross the threshold though, this minor action sets her mind for the rest of the night. She has essentially claimed part ownership to the room.

If a chick meets me at my place because it's easier if I drive, I "forget" something and bring her inside. Maybe a thirty second tour of the place. Ideally I show everything and get her to step foot in the kitchen, bathroom, and finally bedroom.

I like to do this because my thinking is
- I lead more, she follows more
- she comes into my spot, and nothing bad happens
- I'm not pressed, and I'm used to having people over.

You don't want her to see her going inside your house as a big deal.

With the hotel after a quick meet, it's a good way to show you aren't a maniac.

Even gold diggers need a bit of trust.

That's my rationale at least.

From there, the real game is getting a money minded chick off her game and be a real woman again

That's why I read this thread.

WIA

That's one reason why SA game is good for pipelining when you're traveling. You will have a hotel room or AirBnB anyway, so you don't lose out if she doesn't go to the room. The site allows you to choose where your profile is based at, so you don't have to use any IP spoofing like you do with other online game sites like Tinder. You can claim to be local or from anywhere you choose. Obviously, you should choose a hotel or AirBnB place that has a trendy bar in the building or very close nearby.

I suggest setting up two dates for the evening, one around 6 or 7, and the other about three hours later. If the first one flakes or declines to go to the room, immediately text the second date and tell her your "business" is completed and to come on out early. If the first does go to the room, you should have time to get the bang, kick her out, make up the bed a little, and get back downstairs to meet your second date.

Obviously advanced level game so probably doesn't belong in the Newbie forum and I might write up a more detailed post about it later. But I've been having good luck, and more importantly a TON of fun introducing SA girls to each other! In fact this past Saturday night I lined up a triple date (all three of them at the same time) with 2 girls I met from SA and a stripper I had me a couple of weeks back. None of them had met each other before and we all ended up partying at a bar together for a few hours - I was able to pull 2 out of the 3 back to my place later that night.

I've done this a couple of other times with different sets of chicks from the site. The key is finding girls that you think will mesh well together and basically let them do the work.

(05-24-2016 09:25 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:16 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  If the date doesn't work out, what are your options for the rest of the night?

SA game needs a system even more than regular game because you're dealing with a chick with pro tendencies, if not outright in the game.

WIA

Similarities to "shoring" aside, what if someone tries SA, goes on a date with a girl after booking a room somewhere, and it doesn't work out?

He's left hanging with a credit card charge for something he's not going to utilize in the way he intended in the first place. I know we don't talk about p4p here, but he might as well have paid a hooker with that money.

Sure, you could risk it by bringing SA girls back to your place, but in the age of false rape accusations, why would you want to do this given the real risk of pissing the girl off if you bang her without paying an allowance?

No offense to the guys actually doing SA though. I like to think my game is slowly improving by the week or by the month, but to think it is at the point where I can consistently pull girls off SA to my home for free without pissing someone off along the way would be borderline delusional on my part.

That's why I don't do SA here.

Wait, so you're saying there's risks with SA but not with traveling to SEA to get laid? If anything, SEA carries more risk than SA. To say so otherwise is just plain 100% game denialism.

That's why you don't get the room until the cat is in the bag, the same way one does not travel until having a solid plan.

If anything, say it's a place you rented off AirBNB. Also, one can say "this is a corporate apt when visiting for business trips". If you're bold just say "this is my other place, I hope you understand my desire to keep it discrete and a low profile".....because you're a high profile nigga.

Matter of fact, don't even say if it's your place or not. That's what alpha niggas do, they act instead of doing the talk.

If this thread wasn't public, we could also post some of the profiles we see on the site. Some of them are hilarious.

(05-25-2016 02:55 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Wait, so you're saying there's risks with SA but not with traveling to SEA to get laid? If anything, SEA carries more risk than SA. To say so otherwise is just plain 100% game denialism.

That's why you don't get the room until the cat is in the bag, the same way one does not travel until having a solid plan.

If anything, say it's a place you rented off AirBNB. Also, one can say "this is a corporate apt when visiting for business trips". If you're bold just say "this is my other place, I hope you understand my desire to keep it discrete and a low profile".....because you're a high profile nigga.

Matter of fact, don't even say if it's your place or not. That's what alpha niggas do, they act instead of doing the talk.

I don't understand what point you're trying to make? I never said anything that could be taken as game denialism, because I am not a game denier. Even in SEA, you still need game. The rewards just are better there than here.

And please explain to me how it is riskier in SEA than it is using SA here, if a SA girl could get you on a false rape accusation because you didn't pay her an allowance? I mean, you're the one going on dates with girls who are "seeking arrangement", as the website implies, and I'm actively avoiding (or at least try to avoid) girls who are semi-pros or freelancers in SEA.

Once you hit the site and get a feel for it, you will find out a pretty good percentage of girls just want some decent dick. If you don't fuck them over or lie that you will give them money after sex then you will be fine.

It's pretty easy to screen out the bad ones anyways. If they bring up any sort of cash payment while talking then next them.

I've had two girls buy me drinks because of my pics/profile game before bedding them.

The pros will let themselves be known before any meetup. It's just your fault for not recognizing it.

Might be time for me join again as its been awhile since my last go around.

I've brought about 20 SA girls back to my Pad with little or no issues. I play a slightly different game in that my profile clearly states I'm not looking for anything transactional.
I get them onto whatsapp ASAP , as we chat away I run standard game , then suggest we meet up for a drink.
If they say Yes..
Then I bring up SA and say this site really isnt for me , a friend signed me up , just letting membership die. blar blar
So this would totally be just a normal date , nothing dodgy , if you you're not into normal dating i completely understand.

This routine automatically filters out the pro's and as there's so many strange , weird , loser betas guys on SA the girls are just happy to meet a normal guy ! You're almost saying i'm better than these guys who pay , without actually saying it.

If you are worried about the false rape thing buy one of these bad boys for your bedroom :
http://www.amazon.com/Online-Enterprises...B00MDZO96Q

I met an SA girl last night who was looking for an arrangement but got a good vibe from me so was happy with a normal date. During the date I could tell she was up for anything , but as soon as she mentioned she'd be r-a-p-e-d in the past , i pulled the cord and ejected. My gut feeling was saying this girl would be more trouble than shes worth.

It's a pure numbers game as with any other plaftform.

Women will categorise the guys they go out with based on where they met them and that is one of the biggest hurdle to get through. She meets you through Tinder/social circle -> down to fuck, she meets you on SA -> "show me you are the right beta provider for me". You have to get through their bullshit and make it clear you're not a fucking pansy.

I've had one recently be keen to meet me - despite me saying that I'm not looking for arrangements via messages perhaps she "somehow" missed it - and she admitted she's on Tinder and other things but pretty much left as soon as she realised her prostitute game was up. She was at most a 5.

Why would a late 30s women think any guy would pay for her let alone a guy in his prime. I was literally thinking in my head whether she was nuts considering I have three/four plates who all look better than her and are younger.

The reality is this society is completely fucked up for this website to even exist.

There will be women who will get through the screening who really shouldn't do. Will just have to persevere.

This thread has made me start wondering how long it will be before there's a concerted effort to make a man who misrepresents his income for the purposes of having sex a criminal.

I've never used SA, but I have met up with around three or four girls from OKC who when I got them on the date, it was pretty clear they were semi-pros. Any girl who invites you to her place, or a hotel room, to "hang out and have drinks" for a first "date" and then gives you "first minute resistance" is a hoe, IMO.

Articles like this recent one should help to keep bringing in fresh talent.

(05-26-2016 10:02 AM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  The reality is this society is completely fucked up for this website to even exist.

Disagree. Tech has just made it easier.

There were always finishing schools.
Debutantes. [Or did you think that meant they were 'nice' girls]
Cotillions.

Matchmakers. Particularly for older, successful men and younger hotter girls. This has been going on for centuries if not longer. Still very common in the East.

In the 1950s, this would have been the #1 website. For men AND women.

The one common thread among the dozens of women I've met off the site is that they all want an older, dominant man who has his shit together.

SA is basically like NYSE but with bitches .. apparently.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-02...ostitution