Ive been using hotel tonight and recharge apps for quick low cost rooms. My game is developing so i dont like to commit too soon.

Recharge has some nice places too which helps with the appearance of $$

(05-30-2017 01:44 PM)Vagetarian Wrote:  Ive been using hotel tonight and recharge apps for quick low cost rooms. My game is developing so i dont like to commit too soon.

Recharge has some nice places too which helps with the appearance of $$

Don't go in text circles with them, they need to know your a busy man and as such....your time is valuable. Send them a few texts, then set a time and date to meet. Some of these girls will flake because they will want someone who they can know as a friend and will have texted a while.

Text to escalate, set time to meet, if you keep going in circles then stop replying.....they will send you a restart text later or you send them one under the pretense that you got busy or had a family emergency. I can't remember how many times my non-existent nephew had a seizure, dozens.

I can't imagine paying the ridiculous SA fees. I look at the thumbnails of the users messaging me. None have been girls id text and get a hotel to bang.

Who know what they're saying. I don't pay so cant read it. Being active on SA is such an expense compared to all the free alternatives. The girls want allowances maybe it to pay the hundreds of dollars it costs them to message. Or are women free? If so I'd make a female account and pretend it's my secretary.

I surfed some other foreign cities and messaged girls. Got some responses. Sometimes they allow private photo access. I assume that means their main photo is a fake?

(06-10-2017 12:55 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  I can't imagine paying the ridiculous SA fees. I look at the thumbnails of the users messaging me. None have been girls id text and get a hotel to bang.

Who know what they're saying. I don't pay so cant read it. Being active on SA is such an expense compared to all the free alternatives. The girls want allowances maybe it to pay the hundreds of dollars it costs them to message. Or are women free? If so I'd make a female account and pretend it's my secretary.

I surfed some other foreign cities and messaged girls. Got some responses. Sometimes they allow private photo access. I assume that means their main photo is a fake?

35 bucks is a lot? That's all you need to pay for these hoes and it gives you plenty of time.

You're not going to find some of these bitches other than a high end place...it's a gold mine of 7s-10s. People have pulled these girls by offering nothing more than a glass of water. Show me of a free alternative that has SA slut material.

It's all about frame.

To piggyback onto CR's post..

Every other dating app, you're competing with other men, and trying to stand out from the crowd.

This SA app, YOU'RE the prize. They come to you.

$35 gets you a week on the SA mobile app.

To paraphrase CR, it really is all about keeping frame.

(06-15-2017 08:40 PM)Sam Malone Wrote:  To piggyback onto CR's post..

Every other dating app, you're competing with other men, and trying to stand out from the crowd.

This SA app, YOU'RE the prize. They come to you.

$35 gets you a week on the SA mobile app.

To paraphrase CR, it really is all about keeping frame.

For guys the sweet spot age wise seems to be 35 to 55.. If you are in that age range then you are going to have a lot of girls messaging you. Older than that and most girls find it creepy and that's me talking to girls on over 30 plus dates. Younger and girls think you are just trying to get laid for free.

For the $70 per month fee.. Look if you can't afford the fee then you can't afford a sugar baby, It's advertised as a site for men with net worth with over a million dollars. Don't pollute the daddie pool if you don't have the cash.

The app works decent as a dating app. If you have game you can find some hookups on there, I've hit a girl who was a 6 "best blowjob I ever got" and have a NSA relationship with a 42 year old who is a 9 on a sliding age scale. I'm 46 so I don't mind dating late 30's to early 40's, in a lot of ways I find them more attractive. My pitch is dinner and drinks and let's see where the night goes. You'd be surprised how bad the dating pool is for women over 35. $100 on dinner and drinks plus decent game will get you laid every time.

For finding Sugar babies who will fuck you for between 0 and $500 it works like a champ. Currently 4 sugar babies in the rotation. I have a 19 year old that I leave a gift of $100 and pay for dinner on a weekly basis in the rotation. I go over on a weekday night when she gets off work, dinner at a applebees or hooters and back to her place for a couple of hours. Now she is fucked in the head and has serious daddy issues but getting to fuck a 19 year old hottie who is an 8, she's 5'9 135lbs, for a 46 year old is great. I also have a 26 year divorcee who is in nursing school, she's a 9, who has a kid the same age as mine. Likes older guys her ex was 15 years older. I've had her over twice for overnights and she is down to fuck like a freak, no money just gifts "bought her school books" and dinner. Now I think she has me sized up wanting to be a trophy wife & if my wife hadn't died less than a year ago, I'd probably be out scouting out a ring & a prenup.

For others I just turned down a girl who is a 8, but was looking for $500 per meet and over $1,000 per month. She'll find someone to pay that but it will more than likely be a 60 year old guy who will meet her price.

SA is like life, if you look good and have some $$'s your going to get laid. If you look ugly and have $$$'s your gonna get laid.

(06-19-2017 07:55 AM)bellhead Wrote:  You'd be surprised how bad the dating pool is for women over 35. $100 on dinner and drinks plus decent game will get you laid every time.

Where I live (DC area) I think it is still good to them, and they are utterly spoiled even at that age; do these 35+s ask for anything more than the dinner/drinks?

Quote:For finding Sugar babies who will fuck you for between 0 and $500 it works like a champ. Currently 4 sugar babies in the rotation.

Do mean a monthly allowance or by each meeting? What I saw was mediocre quality, and even uglies & fatties with high expectations of allowances.

Quote:For others I just turned down a girl who is a 8, but was looking for $500 per meet and over $1,000 per month. She'll find someone to pay that but it will more than likely be a 60 year old guy who will meet her price.

Did she want both a per meeting and monthly allowance? That makes no sense and is like Playmate level payment.

(06-19-2017 07:55 AM)bellhead Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 08:40 PM)Sam Malone Wrote:  To piggyback onto CR's post..

Every other dating app, you're competing with other men, and trying to stand out from the crowd.

This SA app, YOU'RE the prize. They come to you.

$35 gets you a week on the SA mobile app.

To paraphrase CR, it really is all about keeping frame.

For guys the sweet spot age wise seems to be 35 to 55.. If you are in that age range then you are going to have a lot of girls messaging you. Older than that and most girls find it creepy and that's me talking to girls on over 30 plus dates. Younger and girls think you are just trying to get laid for free.

For the $70 per month fee.. Look if you can't afford the fee then you can't afford a sugar baby, It's advertised as a site for men with net worth with over a million dollars. Don't pollute the daddie pool if you don't have the cash.

The app works decent as a dating app. If you have game you can find some hookups on there, I've hit a girl who was a 6 "best blowjob I ever got" and have a NSA relationship with a 42 year old who is a 9 on a sliding age scale. I'm 46 so I don't mind dating late 30's to early 40's, in a lot of ways I find them more attractive. My pitch is dinner and drinks and let's see where the night goes. You'd be surprised how bad the dating pool is for women over 35. $100 on dinner and drinks plus decent game will get you laid every time.

For finding Sugar babies who will fuck you for between 0 and $500 it works like a champ. Currently 4 sugar babies in the rotation. I have a 19 year old that I leave a gift of $100 and pay for dinner on a weekly basis in the rotation. I go over on a weekday night when she gets off work, dinner at a applebees or hooters and back to her place for a couple of hours. Now she is fucked in the head and has serious daddy issues but getting to fuck a 19 year old hottie who is an 8, she's 5'9 135lbs, for a 46 year old is great. I also have a 26 year divorcee who is in nursing school, she's a 9, who has a kid the same age as mine. Likes older guys her ex was 15 years older. I've had her over twice for overnights and she is down to fuck like a freak, no money just gifts "bought her school books" and dinner. Now I think she has me sized up wanting to be a trophy wife & if my wife hadn't died less than a year ago, I'd probably be out scouting out a ring & a prenup.

For others I just turned down a girl who is a 8, but was looking for $500 per meet and over $1,000 per month. She'll find someone to pay that but it will more than likely be a 60 year old guy who will meet her price.

SA is like life, if you look good and have some $$'s your going to get laid. If you look ugly and have $$$'s your gonna get laid.

This is no different than prostitution. Why not just get a hooker (which is disallowed here btw)?

All sugar daddy is, is whoring by another name in a country (USA) where whoring is illegal.I was talking to a 20 year old who was telling me how her friend gets $600 for sending this guy pics.I burst out laughing as $600 is the going rate for a high class whore down here.

Also my mate you is massive on Tinder is now getting hit up by the younger 18 to 23 range all looking to sugar baby but so fucking clueless.My mate is a 9 pics wise at 45.I said to promise them free wifi..

Along with Cougar, Milf bullshit with young lads who are trained to fuck women pass their prime birthing age. Now young women getting trained to whore themselves out ,I worry about the West's birth rate.We are going to lose the War.

(06-19-2017 08:20 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 07:55 AM)bellhead Wrote:  [quote='Sam Malone' pid='1593757' dateline='1497577218']

This is no different than prostitution. Why not just get a hooker (which is disallowed here btw)?

Because the pro girls are taking 3 to 5 dicks a day everyday. The 19 year old has another sugar daddy which I'm fine with, the 22 year old I'm picking up from her bartender job at 3 today for drinks and dinner and a bang isn't either. She hasn't been laid in a month due to working all the time. You can weed out the hard core pro's pretty easy as they want in my area $200 to $300 per pop with an hour time frame. The girls I do, it's a date and then a bang where I'm there for 2 to 4 hours with usually 2 pops and it's girlfriend sex, also most are down for bareback vs. condom after a test. The other plus is about 1/2 are 420 friendly which I really like, dinner/drinks bust a nut/smoke then another long drawn out bang.

Lol no wonder the game is so f*cked today. Female intimacy is literally coming attached with a price tag.

(06-19-2017 08:15 AM)scrambled Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 07:55 AM)bellhead Wrote:  You'd be surprised how bad the dating pool is for women over 35. $100 on dinner and drinks plus decent game will get you laid every time.

Where I live (DC area) I think it is still good to them, and they are utterly spoiled even at that age; do these 35+s ask for anything more than the dinner/drinks?

neither one... The first one I dropped $60 on dinner and another $15 for two mixed drinks next door. Took her back to my house and she walked in and took her clothes off on the way to the way. We banged and cuddled then she gave me a 20 minute blowjob and fell asleep. Banged in the morning and I kicked her out.

2nd one.. First date no bang paid for dinner and drinks, a little kissing. 2nd date was great she was dolled up we met for drinks, had a few then went to a private club she knew and cuddled kissed, left at 3:30, hit five guys her suggestion and took her back to her place and woke her 2 roommates up. I left at 6:00 with claw marks on my back. Since then it's a once or twice a week netflix and chill or dinner.

Quote:For finding Sugar babies who will fuck you for between 0 and $500 it works like a champ. Currently 4 sugar babies in the rotation.

Do mean a monthly allowance or by each meeting? What I saw was mediocre quality, and even uglies & fatties with high expectations of allowances.

I have a sliding scale if a girl is not at least a 6 I don't hit them up. I have two large colleges of 8k students plus in my town. Plus another one of 25k less than an hour in a cowtown.

If they are smoking hot like a 10/10 then I offer more $250 per meet, to a normal 7/8 is getting $125 to $150 per meet and I pick up everything on the date. You'd be surprised what starting dinner at the bar and a $12 mixed drink & a bottle of wine at dinner will do to impress a sub-25 year old girl who came from a middle class family. I tell them thigh high dress, it's upscale and I roll in a tailored suit on the first date. Most people that age have never eaten at a place with a 3 course menu.

I always pay with cash and have a roll of about $500 on me in a money clip. I'm selling a sugar daddy image and a $100 dinner and drinks sells itself.

I don't do monthly allowances as that shit don't work. I am never going to give a chick I met on a quasi prostitution site 1k a month up front.

Quote:For others I just turned down a girl who is a 8, but was looking for $500 per meet and over $1,000 per month. She'll find someone to pay that but it will more than likely be a 60 year old guy who will meet her price.

Did she want both a per meeting and monthly allowance? That makes no sense and is like Playmate level payment.

Yea, now she must need the cash as she texted me back and said $150 per meet is fine, but that happens sometimes. There is a limited pool of guys out there who have cash to blow on girls. I live close to Hilton Head and there are some loaded older guys out there, so if she had one or two then they fuck up the market.

I'm single my wife died from cancer and we were upper middle class, in a 400k house and two new cars in the burbs. I clear about 4k a month after expenses and retirement contributions. Imagine telling your wife where 2k a month is going in cash.

what the F is going on here?

(06-19-2017 02:18 PM)bellhead Wrote:  Yea, now she must need the cash as she texted me back and said $150 per meet is fine, but that happens sometimes. There is a limited pool of guys out there who have cash to blow on girls. I live close to Hilton Head and there are some loaded older guys out there, so if she had one or two then they fuck up the market.

I'm single my wife died from cancer and we were upper middle class, in a 400k house and two new cars in the burbs. I clear about 4k a month after expenses and retirement contributions. Imagine telling your wife where 2k a month is going in cash.

What on fucking earth are you talking about? What you're doing is not what we preach on this forum, much less on this thread. We do not promote being "daddies".

You're trying to rationalize this shit hard and doing p4p. You're okay with paying and that bitch having another John? The hamster is strong in this cuck.

Quote:Don't pollute the daddie pool if you don't have the cash.

Brah, the general consensus is to never pay these bitches. I pollute that fucking pool more than Exxon and Monsanto pollute earth.

(06-19-2017 07:08 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Brah, the general consensus is to never pay these bitches.

Damn dat COLD

I think I may have seen this on another discussion board, but has anymore made their SBs fill out consent to sex forms and have it recorded?

I tried this last week and it was the best idea in terms of covering my ass while providing a piece of mind to myself and my SB as well. Long story short, I had her and a friend drive 5 hours from some small town to see me in a large city downtown. The impression that they had was they were going to have a three some with me when they got to my hometown and it was discussed. I met both girls for lunch first (I kept them waiting a bit letting them know I was in a meeting) to meet and get to know them. I wasn't attracted to the one girl (only the other). So after about 30 minutes, I told the girls I had to go back to my office to work and they should explore downtown for the day and that I would contact when I'm done. Also, I did give the girl that drove $100 and the other $50 (the hotter one) for their time to drive 10hrs RT.

So back at my office, I text the hot girl and tell her that I'm only interested in her and am only willing to compensate her (and not her friend). This chick is a 9 mind you. I basically isolated her away from her friend in downtown for an hour so I could just bang her. So she left her friend and met me at a location where I whisked her away to a private location to bang her.

Before anything, I basically told her how much I wanted to be with her, but we'd have to sign consent forms and have them recorded wanted to make sure that she'd be okay with it. She was and she signed her form and consented and I did as well and we got everything recorded on my phone (including the actions) Needless to say it was a rewarding experience for the both of us.

Afterwards I get a nasty message from her friend saying I owed her more and promised her some absurd amount of money (which I didn't). Thankfully the girl I banged and myself had copies of our consent forms and it was all recorded. I feel relieve that I did this and will probably continue to do this moving forward.

If anyone else has done this, please let me know or share you experience.

Thanks

@BigPoppaChump
@bellhead

#1 This forum does not promote, advocate nor condone "pay for play" aka prostitution in any form.

@BigPoppaChump

#2 Unless you live somewhere where prostitution is legal your "consent" form is essentially a signed confession of a crime: solicitation / prostitution. How long do you think before one of these biz-nitches figures out how to leverage that into another business model?: blackmail

I'm not trying to extend the P4P direction in which the conversation was derailed, but BigPoppaChump could you elaborate on the consent form? I'm wealthy which makes me a target and last year I was a victim of an attempted exploitation by a tinder girl year. Fortunately the police were able to help, but ever since then I tread very very carefully with online dating. I'm looking for a solution that will allow me to get back to banging a new girl every week without worrying about covering my ass.

Guys, use the private SA thread. Let this one die...

(06-20-2017 09:45 PM)robreke Wrote:  Guys, use the private SA thread. Let this one die...

What's the requirement for admission? A high post count and some rep points? I tried getting in before but didn't have any luck.

(06-20-2017 09:45 PM)robreke Wrote:  Guys, use the private SA thread. Let this one die...

No one is sharing any useful info.

(06-20-2017 09:44 PM)delineator Wrote:  I'm not trying to extend the P4P direction in which the conversation was derailed, but BigPoppaChump could you elaborate on the consent form? I'm wealthy which makes me a target and last year I was a victim of an attempted exploitation by a tinder girl year. Fortunately the police were able to help, but ever since then I tread very very carefully with online dating. I'm looking for a solution that will allow me to get back to banging a new girl every week without worrying about covering my ass.

Well the first thing I try to do is get as much information on the girl as possible without giving her any of my information. I basically meet these girls in a public setting and get to know them more and decide myself if they're worth fucking or not.

There are several sexual consent forms out there that you can use. Print two copies. Explain to the girl that this is for her safety as well as yours. The big key is sticking to what the two parties have agreed on in terms of engagement. On our agreement, she agreed to give me head and let me fuck her with an FDA approved condom. She had signed copy and I had one as well. On my phone, I recorded her consenting to what we've agreed upon and showing the signed documents and that I would continue recording (our fucking) for our safety and would not redistribute the video. Best decision I ever made and gives me the upper hand.

If she says no, let her walk. It's not worth it and you can find other girls that will agree to it.

But you have the signed agreement and video. Unless she changes her mind during sex or the terms were broken, you're smooth sailing. Make sure she's not on drugs or intoxicated when she signs the papers. My girl was totally sober and found it quite amusing. Worked out just fine. Her friend was pissed, but I could care less.

If there's a private SA thread, I'd love to be a part of it.

(06-20-2017 11:01 PM)BigPoppaPump Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 09:44 PM)delineator Wrote:  I'm not trying to extend the P4P direction in which the conversation was derailed, but BigPoppaChump could you elaborate on the consent form? I'm wealthy which makes me a target and last year I was a victim of an attempted exploitation by a tinder girl year. Fortunately the police were able to help, but ever since then I tread very very carefully with online dating. I'm looking for a solution that will allow me to get back to banging a new girl every week without worrying about covering my ass.

Well the first thing I try to do is get as much information on the girl as possible without giving her any of my information. I basically meet these girls in a public setting and get to know them more and decide myself if they're worth fucking or not.

There are several sexual consent forms out there that you can use. Print two copies. Explain to the girl that this is for her safety as well as yours. The big key is sticking to what the two parties have agreed on in terms of engagement. On our agreement, she agreed to give me head and let me fuck her with an FDA approved condom. She had signed copy and I had one as well. On my phone, I recorded her consenting to what we've agreed upon and showing the signed documents and that I would continue recording (our fucking) for our safety and would not redistribute the video. Best decision I ever made and gives me the upper hand.

If she says no, let her walk. It's not worth it and you can find other girls that will agree to it.

But you have the signed agreement and video. Unless she changes her mind during sex or the terms were broken, you're smooth sailing. Make sure she's not on drugs or intoxicated when she signs the papers. My girl was totally sober and found it quite amusing. Worked out just fine. Her friend was pissed, but I could care less.

If there's a private SA thread, I'd love to be a part of it.

Fuck me , nothing kills the mood like a sexual consent form. But if you want some protection then buy one of these : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00JFKARAE/r...ZOCF&psc=1

You can even take it to the hotel.

I know one forum member has his entire house wired up with a hidden camera system , not cheap but cheaper than a lawyer / court case :
https://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Hidden-Ca...bi047a.htm

Thanks BigPoppaPump and cosworth for the tips

(06-25-2017 09:52 AM)NordicTom Wrote:  Does anyone have experience from using SA in other countries than the US? I'm Scandinavian and have used it with some success here. It seems quite different from the US though, in that I think the male/female ratio is very different - much more men than women, maybe because the whole phenomenon carries much more of a social stigma here.

I've found there are three categories of girls - escort types who want a pay-per date, girls looking for a "real" sd/sb arrangement with a monthly allowance, and third, girls who use it primarily to meet high status older men where actually receiving financial benefit is not what they're after, or at least not a must. It's the third group that's available and gameable if you're not into p4p (which I'm not). I use regular type of game but amp up anything that builds/convey status, like the clothes and shoes I wear, type of place I take her to etcetera. Basically build an exciting world of fun activities, travel, and the good life. Once I've come over the initial hurdle it's me fencing them off after a while when I get bored. They tend to get attached, even though my actual lifestyle isn't anywhere near yachts in the Mediterranean and the like. Once the attraction is there it's there, and what SA provides me with is access and an entry point to girls I otherwise would not easily have access to.

I have also tried it when travelling to other places within Europe, but have found it difficult to convey a compelling story - it becomes obvious to the girl that I'm a business traveller and therefore anything long term is unlikely.

Mentavious and Vincent Chase have some great posts about using it in Europe.