1/1 with SA game as of last night. Cost me about $80 in drinks. Sexy 24yo, solid 7.5-8. Told her right off the bat I wasn't giving her any cash. Gamed her as usual and it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm not nearly rich enough to be on that site, but I do pretty well and can definitely afford to splurge on some delicacies during a night out. Definitely thinking about using this as a passive stream. I got about 35 messages in the first two days (probably because I'm young). The monthly fee is fucking exorbitant though.

(06-27-2017 08:34 AM)CJM Wrote:  1/1 with SA game as of last night. Cost me about $80 in drinks. Sexy 24yo, solid 7.5-8. Told her right off the bat I wasn't giving her any cash. Gamed her as usual and it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm not nearly rich enough to be on that site, but I do pretty well and can definitely afford to splurge on some delicacies during a night out. Definitely thinking about using this as a passive stream. I got about 35 messages in the first two days (probably because I'm young). The monthly fee is fucking exorbitant though.

Heya CJ,

Long time poster on GLL, now starting off here, as nobody there does anything on SA. Definitely correct about using this as a passive stream.

Of your 35 messages, how many were hookers/idiots who didn't read your profile, which I'd hope specified that you don't pay for shit?

Cheers,
SB

(06-25-2017 09:52 AM)NordicTom Wrote:  Does anyone have experience from using SA in other countries than the US? I'm Scandinavian and have used it with some success here. It seems quite different from the US though, in that I think the male/female ratio is very different - much more men than women, maybe because the whole phenomenon carries much more of a social stigma here.

I've found there are three categories of girls - escort types who want a pay-per date, girls looking for a "real" sd/sb arrangement with a monthly allowance, and third, girls who use it primarily to meet high status older men where actually receiving financial benefit is not what they're after, or at least not a must. It's the third group that's available and gameable if you're not into p4p (which I'm not). I use regular type of game but amp up anything that builds/convey status, like the clothes and shoes I wear, type of place I take her to etcetera. Basically build an exciting world of fun activities, travel, and the good life. Once I've come over the initial hurdle it's me fencing them off after a while when I get bored. They tend to get attached, even though my actual lifestyle isn't anywhere near yachts in the Mediterranean and the like. Once the attraction is there it's there, and what SA provides me with is access and an entry point to girls I otherwise would not easily have access to.

I have also tried it when travelling to other places within Europe, but have found it difficult to convey a compelling story - it becomes obvious to the girl that I'm a business traveller and therefore anything long term is unlikely.

If you have the local sim and an apartment then your story of living there will work. I find European women to be easier to game than Americans. You get a large subset of European girls who want to travel so I use that to my advantage. Yes, I've lied about telling girls I will take them on trips but so what?!



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(07-03-2017 10:04 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

(06-25-2017 09:52 AM)NordicTom Wrote:  Does anyone have experience from using SA in other countries than the US? I'm Scandinavian and have used it with some success here. It seems quite different from the US though, in that I think the male/female ratio is very different - much more men than women, maybe because the whole phenomenon carries much more of a social stigma here.

I've found there are three categories of girls - escort types who want a pay-per date, girls looking for a "real" sd/sb arrangement with a monthly allowance, and third, girls who use it primarily to meet high status older men where actually receiving financial benefit is not what they're after, or at least not a must. It's the third group that's available and gameable if you're not into p4p (which I'm not). I use regular type of game but amp up anything that builds/convey status, like the clothes and shoes I wear, type of place I take her to etcetera. Basically build an exciting world of fun activities, travel, and the good life. Once I've come over the initial hurdle it's me fencing them off after a while when I get bored. They tend to get attached, even though my actual lifestyle isn't anywhere near yachts in the Mediterranean and the like. Once the attraction is there it's there, and what SA provides me with is access and an entry point to girls I otherwise would not easily have access to.

I have also tried it when travelling to other places within Europe, but have found it difficult to convey a compelling story - it becomes obvious to the girl that I'm a business traveller and therefore anything long term is unlikely.

If you have the local sim and an apartment then your story of living there will work. I find European women to be easier to game than Americans. You get a large subset of European girls who want to travel so I use that to my advantage. Yes, I've lied about telling girls I will take them on trips but so what?!



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Women lie all the time, so who cares. As long as you're not paying for vag, all else is good to go.

(06-27-2017 08:34 AM)CJM Wrote:  The monthly fee is fucking exorbitant though.

Sign up for a week account on your mobile for $35.

Had a first date tonight with a 23 yo, MiddleEastern origin, an 8 if you like the type (which I do). Met at a bar, she told me she could only have one drink or she'd get too drunk. After two drinks each I asked for the bill, she offered to pay half Bounced to second place, another glass of wine, then just left and walked to my place. She commented something along the lines of she wasn't aware where we were going and all of a sudden we're at your place, but this is a first date so we will not have sex. We made out, I used push-pull, and when I leaned back and feigned disinterest she actually said "it's so sexy that you act like you don't care if we're having sex or not. I'll make an exception [to the first date rule] this time...". Great sex, she gave amazing oral and swallowed. Never any mention of a gift, allowance or similar. I sent her off in an über. Textbook SA game - just took a strong lead throughout the evening and assumed the sale. Amazing how easy it was. I think one important thing was I never once brought up how we met, asked of any of her experiences from SA or similar. Just acted as if this was a completely regular date.

Curious as to how your dates pan out - would be great to read a few date reports.

(07-04-2017 07:01 PM)NordicTom Wrote:  Had a first date tonight with a 23 yo, MiddleEastern origin, an 8 if you like the type (which I do). Met at a bar, she told me she could only have one drink or she'd get too drunk. After two drinks each I asked for the bill, she offered to pay half Bounced to second place, another glass of wine, then just left and walked to my place. She commented something along the lines of she wasn't aware where we were going and all of a sudden we're at your place, but this is a first date so we will not have sex. We made out, I used push-pull, and when I leaned back and feigned disinterest she actually said "it's so sexy that you act like you don't care if we're having sex or not. I'll make an exception [to the first date rule] this time...". Great sex, she gave amazing oral and swallowed. Never any mention of a gift, allowance or similar. I sent her off in an über. Textbook SA game - just took a strong lead throughout the evening and assumed the sale. Amazing how easy it was. I think one important thing was I never once brought up how we met, asked of any of her experiences from SA or similar. Just acted as if this was a completely regular date.

Curious as to how your dates pan out - would be great to read a few date reports.

This guy gets it! Finally! Someone gets it!!!!

It's not that difficult.

I look forward to reading more stories Tom.

Thanks. Not sure this is the best place though, and the private thread would probably be better, if only someone would invite me. Anyone?

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Recently started. First fish. About an 8. Pursuing PhD. Met over drinks in the lounge of Hyatt in NYC. Made out that night, did not progress to the room scene. Met again two days later. Went to a concert - she bought the tickets and I bought her the drinks Went to hotel straight after. Later she mentioned she wanted some help with her 65k in tuition debt, I said I don't roll that way, I can take care of some fun activities and nice experiences but dont trade cash for flesh. She was cool... no drama... lasted 3 months... and then she was back to her money thing again. Moved on.
I am not into conning someone into one time pump and dump as my first experience was pleasant and I think there are many girls out there looking for just quality time and experience. I would rather prefer those types. Question for guys playing here for much longer: how do you weed out pros and hookers from their profile and messages? Let me know if you want me to hit you up with a PM.

Wait, so you're telling me we need 350 posts to get the private thread? Is there another way to verify I'm actually not an SB? I can link you to my GLL forum posts if that helps ...

Don't even have 250 posts on GLL, and that's my main :/

I have no interest in Seeking Arrangement but let me help some new dudes out:

NordicTom & shanghai_bobby-

What would be the point of a "private" thread if anyone, just like you two, could sign up and access it basically immediately with little/no barrier? In what way would such a thread be "private"? It wouldn't be.

Beyond that, both of you are missing some basic facts about this place.

This isn't a Seeking Arrangement Forum, this is one thread or topic among thousands. If you signed up to only talk about Seeking Arrangement and contribute nothing else and have no plans to become an established member then yeah, meeting a certain post/rep threshold will be difficult for you. The forum is not geared towards dudes swooping in, extracting what they need, not contributing, and then disappearing- both in terms of how you'll be treated by us and in terms of any requirements for access to a private area. If you want a forum for one narrow topic, and don't want to add value at all, then you are on the wrong forum. There are all kinds of Low Value Forums out there that will meet your needs.

Further, a private area, if it exists, includes all topics, not just Seeking Arrangement. Its purpose is for established, long term members to make posts that only established, long term members could see. The reason for those kinds of standards is obvious.

Forget about these alleged "Private Forums" and instead of bitching about something you don't even know about start contributing to the forum in general, 99.99% of this forum is accessible to you and is littered with golden information and solids dudes.

I think most of us asking/hinting for access to the SA private thread were under the impression that it was only about SA.

There seems to be a subset of individuals who have a significant experience with SA and are finding this forum and this thread. As this thread is monitored actively by the sugarbaby world, it's a terrible place to share any significant information, reports, and certainly not pictures or possibly identifiable material.

I bet there's several new/newish members here who would contribute actively to a private SA thread but will never reach a 350 post count. To do that in a legitimate non-spammy way would take many months.

Ive been at it for a few months to get to that 350 level, but that reward will be sweet once inside.

If theres an easier way, Ill send whoever is in charge modafinil for free if that helps me get in faster haha

(07-06-2017 12:08 PM)billyb Wrote:  I think most of us asking/hinting for access to the SA private thread were under the impression that it was only about SA.

There seems to be a subset of individuals who have a significant experience with SA and are finding this forum and this thread. As this thread is monitored actively by the sugarbaby world, it's a terrible place to share any significant information, reports, and certainly not pictures or possibly identifiable material.

I bet there's several new/newish members here who would contribute actively to a private SA thread but will never reach a 350 post count. To do that in a legitimate non-spammy way would take many months.

Most of the SA "vital" intel is already in this thread. Everything you need to properly screen, write a profile, and successfully use SA is in the 50+ pages and 1500+ posts. If serious about using it then take the time to read it.. they would know that and wouldnt be so hung up about whats in the private thread thinking its somehow more magically delicious.

Read this thread. You will know who knows their shit. If you have a specific question send them a pm.

If you've done your homework the teacher (s) is/are more likely to help you

^^^^PS I have used the info in THIS thread with phenomenal results. There's gold in these here hills

(07-07-2017 07:44 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  ^^^^PS I have used the info in THIS thread with phenomenal results. There's gold in these here hills

Is anybody getting my PM's? I got CR's PM, but dunno if my PM function is bugging out, or what :/

GlobalMan - what's with the hostility? I was just asking a simple question, no need to be rude or patronizing.

As a newby, I actually have no complaints about being excluded from some areas, but by reading a selection of the posts here I am getting conflicting information about what it takes to be accepted to the private area and how it works. If I recall correctly, a few weeks ago I read that 200 posts and 5 reputation points are required (and as a statistician by trade I think it is remarkable to get 5 reputation points on 200 posts, although exceptions exist). Now it looks like 350 posts and reputation points were not even mentioned. So, now that at least some of the established members let out the secret that a private area even exists (which was not really necessary, by the way), can somebody in the know explain exactly what are the criteria and how do you get "accepted" if you meet the criteria: is it automatic? do you have to apply? do you need a referral? what?

PS: before I am attacked by somebody for not collecting ALL the references and not even reading this whole thread, here is my defense: it is not a viable option to read every singly word written in such a long thread.

PPS: For instance, today was the first time I read any post suggesting that the private area is not restricted to SA. That's why I am asking the question. Before knowing that, I was frankly not interested in joining such a restricted club devoted--I thought--solely to information about shoring. And pardon me if my impression re shoring was wrong: I have no way to know and no insult is intended.

(07-09-2017 10:48 PM)Old SEA Dog Wrote:  As a newby, I actually have no complaints about being excluded from some areas, but by reading a selection of the posts here I am getting conflicting information about what it takes to be accepted to the private area and how it works. If I recall correctly, a few weeks ago I read that 200 posts and 5 reputation points are required (and as a statistician by trade I think it is remarkable to get 5 reputation points on 200 posts, although exceptions exist). Now it looks like 350 posts and reputation points were not even mentioned. So, now that at least some of the established members let out the secret that a private area even exists (which was not really necessary, by the way), can somebody in the know explain exactly what are the criteria and how do you get "accepted" if you meet the criteria: is it automatic? do you have to apply? do you need a referral? what?

PS: before I am attacked by somebody for not collecting ALL the references and not even reading this whole thread, here is my defense: it is not a viable option to read every singly word written in such a long thread.

PPS: For instance, today was the first time I read any post suggesting that the private area is not restricted to SA. That's why I am asking the question. Before knowing that, I was frankly not interested in joining such a restricted club devoted--I thought--solely to information about shoring. And pardon me if my impression re shoring was wrong: I have no way to know and no insult is intended.

You need to have a 350 post count, period, to get into the Private Lounge and the numerous threads about numerous topics of which only one is related to SA

That said what information regarding SA is it that you are not finding in this thread? Specifically

IT is 100% worth it to read all 64 pages. I did so and took notes. Bad logistics hinder me from using this knowledge.

(07-10-2017 12:03 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 10:48 PM)Old SEA Dog Wrote:  As a newby, I actually have no complaints about being excluded from some areas, but by reading a selection of the posts here I am getting conflicting information about what it takes to be accepted to the private area and how it works. If I recall correctly, a few weeks ago I read that 200 posts and 5 reputation points are required (and as a statistician by trade I think it is remarkable to get 5 reputation points on 200 posts, although exceptions exist). Now it looks like 350 posts and reputation points were not even mentioned. So, now that at least some of the established members let out the secret that a private area even exists (which was not really necessary, by the way), can somebody in the know explain exactly what are the criteria and how do you get "accepted" if you meet the criteria: is it automatic? do you have to apply? do you need a referral? what?

PS: before I am attacked by somebody for not collecting ALL the references and not even reading this whole thread, here is my defense: it is not a viable option to read every singly word written in such a long thread.

PPS: For instance, today was the first time I read any post suggesting that the private area is not restricted to SA. That's why I am asking the question. Before knowing that, I was frankly not interested in joining such a restricted club devoted--I thought--solely to information about shoring. And pardon me if my impression re shoring was wrong: I have no way to know and no insult is intended.

You need to have a 350 post count, period, to get into the Private Lounge and the numerous threads about numerous topics of which only one is related to SA

That said what information regarding SA is it that you are not finding in this thread? Specifically

Thanks for this clarification. As to additional questions re SA that are not available in the public thread, I really have none. I just wanted to be clear on the admittance rules to the Private Lounge. Meanwhile, I would like to say that a lot of the information on the site is illuminating, but I still maintain that it is not viable for a person with a life outside the site to read every post on every subject. Often, even search results are too numerous to pursue one by one. Furthermore, my own focus is on SEA (as in South East Asia), and even with respect to SEA I have no hope to read everything. Talking about SEA, the name Old SEA Dog does not mean I have a lot of SEA experience. It means I am an "old dog" who is keen to learn new "SEA tricks," and having been a seaman for real (albeit quite a while ago), I could not resist the pun.

I think this is about right.. it's not "easy" to find a hot naive girl dtf for free on sa anymore but it's A LOT easier than using tinder or bumble that's for sure. 1 bang in 14 days sending say 30 messages a day is 1 bang for about 500 messages. so that's about the amount of work you need to expect to put in. obv automate it cut/paste etc where you can to make it easier

I would add a large category to the above which I think most girls on the site are now which is "semi-pro" meaning they are looking to get paid for a fwb situation. I mean it's the standard sd/sb relationship actually

(07-05-2018 10:18 PM)pickupartistry123 Wrote:  i do all my screening through texting. on SA i blast out messages to dozens of girls per day. i put all the girls that respond through a funnel. at the end of it all i end up fucking a new girl every 14-16 days

edit: the every 14-16 days number has been averaged over 6 months worth of data, so it's a pretty accurate and stable number