Post: #526

(09-15-2014 10:27 PM)Chaos Wrote:  I'm about to invest in a new juicer.
Have you guys any experience of this Philips HR 1871 model?
It's big and has quite decent reviews.

This is the one that I have. The rate at which it juices is extremely quick and super easy to clean. However, it doesn't extract too much juice out of greens. It's not too loud for its size.

If you do buy it, cut your produce into chunks before juicing it. I've noticed that when I put them in whole , I find chopped up pieces in the pulp while cleaning it out.

Post: #527

^For how long have you used it?

I took a look on the Omega juicers which seem to be popular in America.
Looks decent also.

Post: #528

(09-16-2014 11:54 PM)Chaos Wrote:  ^For how long have you used it?

I took a look on the Omega juicers which seem to be popular in America.
Looks decent also.

MikeCF Wrote this little baby: http://fit-juice.com/what-is-the-best-juicer/

Go with an Omega, get a Hamilton Beach if you're low on money.

Post: #529

Definitely go in for an Omega if it's available where you live.

I bought the Philips as it was the best for its price range out of all the juicers available here. I didn't want to invest in importing an Omega (around 400$ to get it down here) as I had just started juicing though the next one I'm picking up is going to be the J8006.

Post: #530

My second cheap blender just broke - I'm gonna go for a Vitamix now.
I use a lot of frozen vegetables (spinach, kale etc.)

Will the Vitamix blend those as well ?(I think my old blenders all broke because of this)

Post: #531

(12-06-2014 06:39 AM)Twi Wrote:  My second cheap blender just broke - I'm gonna go for a Vitamix now.
I use a lot of frozen vegetables (spinach, kale etc.)

Will the Vitamix blend those as well ?(I think my old blenders all broke because of this)

Vitamix will blend almost anything, but it does shut down when you over strain it.. then you have to wait a little bit ( 10 minutes or more) for it to cool down and then it will work normal again.


I used to go through blenders too, and they were NOT powerful enough to blend - however, the vitamix (for more than 3 years) has NOT encountered anything that really is too much for it - sometimes, however, may need to be conscious of adding water if something really dense like carrots or coconuts or the attempted blending of some other durable items.

Post: #532

(12-06-2014 06:39 AM)Twi Wrote:  My second cheap blender just broke - I'm gonna go for a Vitamix now.
I use a lot of frozen vegetables (spinach, kale etc.)

Will the Vitamix blend those as well ?(I think my old blenders all broke because of this)

why not get a hamiton beach big mouth juicer for sixty bucks instead of investing into a $400 blender.

Post: #533

I have a hamilton beach big mouth and a vitamix.

They do completely different things.

I use the big mouth juicer for only carrots, beets, and celery stalks.

The vitamix for kale, parsley, spinach, bokchoy, and anything else to sweeten things up.

I've had the vitamix for a few years and it can take anything I throw at it.

The big mouth juicer I've had for six months and is starting to fall apart. After I do a few pounds of carrots it starts to make weird noises and clog up, and I have to rinse it to continue. It also doesn't completely pull out the pulp like a higher quality juicer does. But at 50 bucks it's a decent value.

Post: #534

(12-06-2014 09:05 AM)BallsDeep Wrote:  I have a hamilton beach big mouth and a vitamix.

They do completely different things.

I use the big mouth juicer for only carrots, beets, and celery stalks.

The vitamix for kale, parsley, spinach, bokchoy, and anything else to sweeten things up.

I've had the vitamix for a few years and it can take anything I throw at it.

The big mouth juicer I've had for six months and is starting to fall apart. After I do a few pounds of carrots it starts to make weird noises and clog up, and I have to rinse it to continue. It also doesn't completely pull out the pulp like a higher quality juicer does. But at 50 bucks it's a decent value.

BallsDeep:

Do you believe that the Hamilton Big Mouth is doing something different with the carrots, beets and celery, as compared with attempting those same types of items in the Vitamix?

I have blended carrots and celery in the Vitamix, and it seems to handle those very well. I have NOT tried beats, but sometimes I have tried coconuts and other items of similar consistency to beets. Of course, you can choose how many of these fiber dense products to put into the Vitamix, and whether to mix those with water and whether to include other liquid dense ingredients? And, with the Vitamix, using the plunger too can make a difference to make sure that you are getting a churning of the items.

Post: #535

I wonder when MikeCF will start blogging about juicing again.

Post: #536

(12-06-2014 03:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  BallsDeep:

Do you believe that the Hamilton Big Mouth is doing something different with the carrots, beets and celery, as compared with attempting those same types of items in the Vitamix?

I got the BigMouth because when I put carrots in the vitamix it turns into slush. And if I add water it tastes bland.

I have no idea how many nutrients I get from juicing carrots with the BigMouth vs putting them in the vitamix and adding water, but the taste and consistency of doing it with the vitamix is so bad that I'd never be able to drink that.

I don't put spinach, kale, parsley etc in the BigMouth because nothing comes out. So all that goes into the vitamix.

Post: #537

Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier but -- For those who freeze their juice: Granted that you put your juice immediately into the freezer right after juicing, how long can you store frozen juice in mason juice? I would like to juice and freeze up to a two weeks supply. Is that fine?

Post: #538

(12-08-2014 10:07 AM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 03:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  BallsDeep:

Do you believe that the Hamilton Big Mouth is doing something different with the carrots, beets and celery, as compared with attempting those same types of items in the Vitamix?

I got the BigMouth because when I put carrots in the vitamix it turns into slush. And if I add water it tastes bland.

I have no idea how many nutrients I get from juicing carrots with the BigMouth vs putting them in the vitamix and adding water, but the taste and consistency of doing it with the vitamix is so bad that I'd never be able to drink that.

I don't put spinach, kale, parsley etc in the BigMouth because nothing comes out. So all that goes into the vitamix.

Supposedly, juice from masticating juicers retains more nutrients than juice from high-speed blenders like the vitamix, because the blender blade breaks up the cells as it cuts and the fiber slows the absorption of nutrients by the digestive system. But, you lose the fiber etc,. If that's true, then perhaps the best way would be to run everything through the masticating juicer (my masticating juicer (Olympus) was able to extract juice from greens), then combine the pulp and juice in the Vitamix and blend it all up, then drink it down. Seems like a lot of work to me. Perhaps if I have pre-cancer or a serious auto-immune condition or something like that I would go through that much effort.

I used the Olympus upright-masticating juicer for about a year, but I eventually got tired of how long it took to make a cup of juice- sometimes up to an hour including prep and cleanup. It also used to jam a lot until I figured-out to run the softer vegetables and fruits through first, then the tougher ones like greens, and finish up with carrots and cucumbers to help push all the residue through the screens.

I switched to a Vitamix several months ago and like it better, even if the overall nutrition is lower. I like being able to add frozen fruit, avocados, bananas, honey, apple cider vinegar, soy milk (yes, I'm aware it can lower testosterone) and yogurt to the mix. It also uses less material since it retains everything, so my grocery bill is lower. The prep and clean up is about 30-40% less time than that of the masticating juicer.

Post: #539

I did quite a lot of research and ended up buying the Green Star Elite 5000, the juice yield is virtually unmatched as is the warranty. I wanted high yield because organic produce isn't cheap. The juicer was like $550 but I have had it for 18 months now and I am very happy with it. I bought it online if anyone wants to know from where, I can post that or you can IM me.

The Greenstar is super low speed, high yield, but it isn't cheap. Most reviews considered it the best and I researched juicers for about 3 months before buying it. Juicing has changed my life. I am in my middle 30s and had to take Lipitor each day for high cholesterol after 3 months of juicing I no longer have to take Lipitor and I also quit taking my allergy medicine to see what affect the juicing would have and my allergies went away too for the first time in my life. So, I used to have to take an allergy pill and Lipitor each day, now I don't have to take pills anymore, very happy about that. My wife's skin cleared up from juicing too. We also cut dairy out of our lives completely when we started juicing so that may also have had a major effect.

Post: #540

Just got my vitamix from Costco and stoked. I hardly eat greens or shall I say not enough, so now no excuses.
I don't do dairy and I am going to eliminate red meats completely.

Post: #541

Why did Mike stop blogging about juicing?

Post: #542

(12-09-2014 10:56 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Just got my vitamix from Costco and stoked. I hardly eat greens or shall I say not enough, so now no excuses.
I don't do dairy and I am going to eliminate red meats completely.

Personally, I do NOT know why anyone would eliminate red meats from their diet unless they are the product of misinformation based on either vegetarian propaganda or environmentalism propaganda? I am NOT saying that the ideas of vegetarianism is bad or even concerns about the environment and sustainability are bad; however, if we are talking about personal health, there is a lot of nutrition in red meats (probably even the industrial raised ones), especially if you make sure that you eat the fat also.

Surely, it is better if you can get truly naturally grass fed beef, but, I remain of the conclusion that eating industrial beef is better than eating other processed foods containing either processed carbs or various industrial fats (which should be cut out first).

In my thinking there are a lot of processed things that could be cut out of our diets and even cutting back on some of the carbs in order to achieve better health parameters, but red meat should NOT be one of the items that we cut out. Probably good to eat red meat at least a couple times a week, if NOT more.

If Rudebwoy or anyone has some coherent logic (that is NOT based on misinformation) regarding alleged health benefits of cutting out red meat, I would like to hear about it.

Post: #543

JayJuanGee - this is something I have played with for many years, I have done the research and I honestly think the negatives outweigh the positives of eating red meat.
The main question is where the meat comes from, I can't afford to buy grass fed meat all the time or drive to the nearest farm to get it.
Supermarket meat is bogus, you don't know where that meat comes from, how it was raised, when it was killed and if the animal was even healthy to begin with. To my knowledge, you should only eat meat that was killed two days ago max.
Look at the mad cow situation in Europe a few years back, they were feeding dead cows to living cows. Who is to say they weren't doing that in America/Canada.
Another thing I have researched is eating animals that have blood. I can't explain what I have read so I will leave it at that, a lot of it goes into spiritual stuff which I don't want to preach here.
I eat chicken, not too often because I really don't enjoy it unless it is fried or seasoned like mad.
My vice is fish which I simply love, fresh fish is amazing.
Health wise I am fine, both of my folks have high blood pressure and I don't. My parents aren't in bad shape, my 70 year old father got carded the other day at the border. lol
I know guys who have the same mindset and they are in great shape, I myself am in good shape.
I wanted to start a thread but I know what that would have turned into.

Post: #544

(12-10-2014 09:39 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  JayJuanGee - this is something I have played with for many years, I have done the research and I honestly think the negatives outweigh the positives of eating red meat.
The main question is where the meat comes from, I can't afford to buy grass fed meat all the time or drive to the nearest farm to get it.
Supermarket meat is bogus, you don't know where that meat comes from, how it was raised, when it was killed and if the animal was even healthy to begin with. To my knowledge, you should only eat meat that was killed two days ago max.
Look at the mad cow situation in Europe a few years back, they were feeding dead cows to living cows. Who is to say they weren't doing that in America/Canada.
Another thing I have researched is eating animals that have blood. I can't explain what I have read so I will leave it at that, a lot of it goes into spiritual stuff which I don't want to preach here.
I eat chicken, not too often because I really don't enjoy it unless it is fried or seasoned like mad.
My vice is fish which I simply love, fresh fish is amazing.
Health wise I am fine, both of my folks have high blood pressure and I don't. My parents aren't in bad shape, my 70 year old father got carded the other day at the border. lol
I know guys who have the same mindset and they are in great shape, I myself am in good shape.
I wanted to start a thread but I know what that would have turned into.

Ultimately, if you are refraining from red meat for religious reasons (or spiritual), I cannot really argue with that for anyone who makes that kind of choice - the same is true if a person is really into environmentalism or concern about the sake of the animal. I personally will think that it is the wrong vision, but I still accept that other people have different religious viewpoints and also different levels of ideology concerning what they consider acceptable behavior.

Certainly, you can get some of the same red-meat nutrients from other protein sources - eggs and seafood are good, yet I am NOT much of a fan of heavily emphasizing chicken (especially the feeding of GMO grains to chickens - but if a chicken is eating bugs and grass, then its meat is going to be pretty nutritious). Generally, I am too cheap to buy grass fed beef, but like I mentioned above I believe that overall it is probably better (health-wise) to eat the industrial meat than to eat the grains ourselves. Surely a large number of industrial cows are injected with hormones and antibodies yet I doubt that mad cow disease should be a major likelihood.

I still suspect that for health reasons, there is NOT really a strong case to be made to suggest some systemic health problem in eating red meat - but seems that we are merely at logger heads here.. and maybe just NOT worth pursuing further - especially in this thread.

Post: #545

I am not refraining from red meat for religious reasons, mostly health reasons.

I agree if a chicken is eating naturally then I have no qualms about eating it, for example in the Caribbean you see animals in the back garden and next minute they are on your plate. That chicken tastes a lot different than the crap we get in Canadian supermarkets, I have a friend who is a wholesaler of chicken and he hardly eats it. So what does that tell you! I do know the chicken is cleaned with ammonia and injected with crap to make it grow quicker etc.

Fish is the same now, unfortunately most of it is farmed. Again who knows how long it has been around before it reaches the supermarket and gets on your plate, most fish smells. The smell lets you know it is bad, but yet people buy it including myself and we pay good money for it. I could use the "third world" Caribbean example again of what fresh fish tastes like.

Now as for red meat, there are many studies that show it leads to early death and high blood pressure. I can't be bothered to google the studies but I am sure you have read or heard this. You didn't quite answer the question on how our beef or cows are raised?
I am sure it is the same GMO feed and like you stated hormones are added to the beef, perhaps that is what explains pre - teens developing earlier than normal.
I have gone to the trouble of buying grass fed steaks during the summer, to be honest they are not as filling or tasty as the supermarket crap.

Post: #546

Just started juicing with my new blender vitamix. I have been a regular visitor to the toilet, is this normal?

Post: #547

I found a big mouth in the basement, probably an old wedding gift, hahahah! Going to try the Real V8 Recipe tonight, thank you Mike!

Post: #548

Probable reason is that you increased your fiber intake, which leads to more regular bowel movements.

Post: #549

So, I've jumped on the Juicing bangwagon. Bought a Cuisinart juice extractor yesterday and already made orange, grapefruit and carrot juice. Love it!

Post: #550

I started juicing on my very limited budget. I can't buy a juicer so I'm buying pressed natural juices. 64 oz. of real OJ costs me 8 bucks. I can't go over this long. On the other hand, I'm thinking about forgoing this diet until I'm able to spend money on things other than the OJ which is all that's available to me with my budget. My energy is shit right now and I'm hungry all the time. It makes my telemarketing job much more miserable to get through and may be hurting my performance. But if I lose a shit ton of weight (I'm a fatass right now) after all this suffering, it's more than worth it.