I have this henley shirt that looks amazing on me and I'm batting a thousand with it. Every time I wear this shirt, girls eye fuck me and I pull numbers. It literally seems to make a big difference.

If you are in good shape, a shirt that's maybe a little too tight can be a boon to your appearance.

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)wandenreich Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 12:41 AM)soup Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 12:35 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  soup i've been getting a lot of successful number closes today but with the "I wont be free till next week"

The thing to do is have more and more girls in your life. You will text the girls whenever you want, not when they want you to.

My advice is to keep them in your phone, and for every one girl that rejects you, go approach 5-10 more.

As a beginner I get one number every two to three weeks, in average. So it's difficult to play numbers game and hear "I won't be free til next week" Really admire guys who can pull it off.

To be frank..

One number every two or three weeks isn't even an ante.

If you really want to play the game, you're are probably going to have to up the amount by a whole lot.

If you don't, then you probably aren't going to get any kind of satisfying results and will start to become a game denialist.

My two cents..

(04-17-2014 10:22 AM)soup Wrote:  To be frank..

One number every two or three weeks isn't even an ante.

If you really want to play the game, you're are probably going to have to up the amount by a whole lot.

If you don't, then you probably aren't going to get any kind of satisfying results and will start to become a game denialist.

My two cents..

I still have a lot to work on both inner and outer game. It also has to do with the fact that I only do online (OKC, Tinder, Match)

The forum community has really helped me rid some of my beta neediness though, not to mention some of the example lines I found in the fresh direct, okc, and tinder threads have indeed gotten me dates and a bang.

There's no doubt game does exist, it's just how I represent myself online and my actions during the dates don't align with the aggressiveness my texts/messages project

Potential "Sugar Baby" came crawling back, just like I thought would happen.

Wants to Skype tonight and said she's wearing a dress.

Created a new account under a false name.

We'll see what happens.

Went out with 28 y.o. woman from Match.com

The most boring date I've been on. Wouldn't let me kiss or even sit close to her. Tried to escalate over the period of 2 hours and 30 minutes, nada. Definitely a virgin, zero experience with guys.

Should've left after an hour.

(04-17-2014 09:29 AM)wandenreich Wrote:  Find out where they live/work, keep them entertained by sending picture every 2-3 days

Something I didn't mention before, but I have some pictures on my iphone in a special folder of conversation starters. I re-use those same pictures often.

Stole a Japanese glrl away from her Japanese friends on the street. They were all drunk and pushed her to go with me. After like five minutes I get her in a cab back to my house.

We're doing shots, but she's putting a lot of LMR.

I eat her out for like half an hour or more. Tasted like mango (Gio!).

Got her into my bed, but all the LMR had me worked up, so I busted before I could get the notch.

Tried to make plans with 6 diff girls for tonight and they all fell through

How is this possible

It's amazing how far you can escalate with girls via txt. If only I was in the grove like this all the time.

Being dark and direct seems to work better than the standard cocky/funny.

4 targets
- one twin unoccupied, but tall and youngish. Head turner, but I've kinda been there done that.

- one perfect morena in a two-set. I told my homegirl, I'm in my head tonight, and feeling extra creepy.

- one aquiline nose tall chick - I couldn't keep my eyes off of her, she was there with her

- one perfect Italian friend

Went for the objectively hottest one, the Italian.
I was in there...and then I wasn't.

I had everything on my side tonight, venue, music, alcohol...and couldn't make it happen. Hate nights like this.

WIA

(04-19-2014 03:05 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  It's amazing how far you can escalate with girls via txt. If only I was in the grove like this all the time.

Being dark and direct seems to work better than the standard cocky/funny.

It's because text is disembodied communication.

Meeting a 19 year old 7 tonight. That's 15 years younger than me. Bring on the mango!

I'm not going to shower. It's too try-hard sometimes..

(04-17-2014 10:22 AM)soup Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)wandenreich Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 12:41 AM)soup Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 12:35 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  soup i've been getting a lot of successful number closes today but with the "I wont be free till next week"

The thing to do is have more and more girls in your life. You will text the girls whenever you want, not when they want you to.

My advice is to keep them in your phone, and for every one girl that rejects you, go approach 5-10 more.

As a beginner I get one number every two to three weeks, in average. So it's difficult to play numbers game and hear "I won't be free til next week" Really admire guys who can pull it off.

To be frank..

One number every two or three weeks isn't even an ante.

If you really want to play the game, you're are probably going to have to up the amount by a whole lot.

If you don't, then you probably aren't going to get any kind of satisfying results and will start to become a game denialist.

My two cents..

I'd say you need at least 5 numbers a week if you want consistent success and even that may only get you a new notch once a month. Especially if you aren't doing night game so a SNL is impossible then up that ante to 10 numbers a week for online or day game situations.

If you are a newbie and are building up steam you really need to get out there and get in 30+ approaches a week. 50 would even be better.

If you aren't getting any results after a few months you need to work on yourself, you need work on coolness, fitness, style, $.

If you are planning to stay online you really need to get some professional photos with great style.

God fucking damn it I had plans to meet with two girls that I messaged YESTERDAY and they fell through

Someone help me with this shit

19 your old slipped through my fingers.. darn. I'll hit her up again.

We got back to my house. She had her first sip of tequilla. First time she ever kissed a guy with a beard. So she says.

Kissing, but she's 19 and had a lot of energy. You guys would bust a nut if you saw this tight little piece of pussy.

Supposed to be going to go to a festival with my main chick tomorrow but another rotation chick will also be at the same festival and wants to meetup. I had to lie to her and say I have to do Easter family stuff all day tomorrow. A big city can seem very small sometimes.

At LES as I'm typing this. Went out solo tonight to my usual spot.

Opened by a French chick with personal questions while waiting in line. Asked me where im from, useed standard banter but couldn't carry the conversation for more than 2 minutes since she wasn't really warm up.

Saw an average (5) guy ran his game on a solid 7.5 chick. Talked for about 10 minutes and went for the makeout, didn't see him escalate at all.

(04-19-2014 07:07 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I'd say you need at least 5 numbers a week if you want consistent success and even that may only get you a new notch once a month. Especially if you aren't doing night game so a SNL is impossible then up that ante to 10 numbers a week for online or day game situations.

If you are a newbie and are building up steam you really need to get out there and get in 30+ approaches a week. 50 would even be better.

If you aren't getting any results after a few months you need to work on yourself, you need work on coolness, fitness, style, $.

If you are planning to stay online you really need to get some professional photos with great style.

Thanks Travesty444

Wow that just seems impossible to me at this point. Though I do feel day approaches sound like a good idea now that it's tourist season. NYC is flocked with girls.

I've been working on myself in terms of fitness and style as well. It's about the vibe you're giving off when day/night approach.
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Arranged 4 meet ups and none of them happened.
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As im walking to the subway station another chick who's probably drunk sitting by the sidewalk called me out and asked where we were. Tried to call a cab for her. Said she's waiting for a best friend. Feel like this probably could've been a notch for experienced players.

Opened two chicks on the subway.

Didn't think there'd be such a big difference between cold approach and my Okc dates.

Also feels funny I'm fighting to meet 1-5s online while 6.5s just opened me on the street

I have to get a stable plate.

At times like these I feel incredibly lonely when all these girls just disappear or flake. It's difficult to function.

(04-20-2014 06:40 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  I have to get a stable plate.

At times like these I feel incredibly lonely when all these girls just disappear or flake. It's difficult to function.

You have to work on getting over this feeling of needing that stable plate so badly. I think that's why there is a big recommendation you have to work at both game and your life at the same time.

You need to be concentrated on getting where you want to be in your life enough so that the game aspect is an very important side project, but not the overall focus.

Keep chasing down new prospects, but you need to be at a point where if they flake it is fine because you have plenty of things to work on in your life.

(04-20-2014 06:40 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  At times like these I feel incredibly lonely when all these girls just disappear or flake. It's difficult to function.

Harem collapse blows. You can avoid feeling lonely when it happens by not placing value in/tying your self worth to your harem. These girls are additions to your life, not the center of it.

(04-20-2014 06:40 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  I have to get a stable plate.

At times like these I feel incredibly lonely when all these girls just disappear or flake. It's difficult to function.

I try to go out, watch movie/netflix, work out, read forums or bang/day bang and hit up more girls. But I agree with you.

I banged my main girl in the bathroom, then took a bath and banged her again. Might have to be something to try out.

My indirect boyfriend/husband question has been getting called out almost every time I use it. It used to be a bit more covert, maybe I'm using it too early in the interaction. The line is, "is your husband/bf/sig other around here, I don't want any altercation." Instead of saying, "he's right there," or "I don't have one," they say, "Is that your way of finding out if I have a husband or a boyfriend?" I say, "yes, pretty slick way to find out, isn't it?" They of course say, "not really."

Rouge you are showing your hand to early. You got to make them feel like they are working for your attention not the other way around.