For girls that balk, in general, you have to talk to them and frame it as the socially acceptable thing to do.

Today I asked this girl to send me pics of her in her underwear or bikini. She got out of sorta about it, so I told her:

"Bikini or underwear is rated pg-13 just so I can that you are in shape. You do want me to have standards, don't you?"

That kind of shut her down, and I've now successfully sexualized the interaction.

(04-14-2014 01:24 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  When making plans for drinks, what's the way to move it to her house instead of a bar. I tried and got "id rather meet on neutral territory first" so im planning to tell her to scrap the bar and go to her place instead a little before we meet. I seem to run game much more effectively in places where there it's quieter.

Sucks to live in a place with low level of individualism (very very few people live in their own place).

Logistics are huge hassle in my town, because you gotta find an empty spot, and combine it with other things that have to go your way - nightmare.

One of the reasons I'm not marrying, at least not until I'm 40+

(04-14-2014 01:24 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  When making plans for drinks, what's the way to move it to her house instead of a bar. I tried and got "id rather meet on neutral territory first" so im planning to tell her to scrap the bar and go to her place instead a little before we meet. I seem to run game much more effectively in places where there it's quieter.

If that's the case try dive bar or speakeasy around where she lives? usually those venues are pretty quite on weekdays. have one drink then bounce back to her place. might scare the cat if you're too forward. i can't bring girls back to my crib either and it really is a pain in the rear.

on a somewhat related note, got a number off tinder last night and i want to push for bang asap. she's a NYU student and told me she's busy this week to study for her midterm. is it wise to ask meet at her dorm and i'll bring alcohol? she's 18 according to her tinder profile.

Broke up with my live in GF about 2 weeks ago. It was mutual. She's been pretty fast about getting her shit packed up and moving out but she's not out of here until next week. I've been busy racking up numbers and hinting at dinner at my place. It's been a while since I've done that. Ready to start knocking these bitches down one by one. Also a slender Russian I've had on ice for a while is ripe for the plucking.

(04-14-2014 01:24 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  When making plans for drinks, what's the way to move it to her house instead of a bar. I tried and got "id rather meet on neutral territory first" so im planning to tell her to scrap the bar and go to her place instead a little before we meet. I seem to run game much more effectively in places where there it's quieter.

Most girls aren't too hot on meeting a strange man at his house. Circumvent this by finding a dimly lit lounge relatively close to your place. Take a cab there and run standard game over drinks. Have her give you a ride home. Bang.

I really hate when the time comes that your new piece that you've been fucking isn't new anymore. that freshness, excitement and lust is just..... gone.

yes, your dick still gets nice and hard to fuck her. but it's all just practice or sport fucking for the most part.

it's fucked up because this is a never ending cycle. one can only hope the next holds my attention a tad bit longer...

"one can only hope the next holds my attention a tad bit longer..."

^^Welcome to the Player Cycle. It's never ending. Or maybe it does and I'm not old enough to have experienced it yet.

god [email protected]% DAMMIT just went out with a solid 6 from OKC and I was absolutely intimidated. date lasted for 2 hours and she even told me she hooked numerous times in the past and the best comeback I had was can I kiss you now. walked her to the subway station and still was afraid to make any move. I hate myself for being such a f&ckin* loser

why do i always forget the one golden rule of "escalate like you'll never see her again" dammit

I've been working on this girl in my Composition class. She's my partner for a project so we've been getting some quality personal chatting sessions in. She's all smiles and jokes when we talk, so I'm feeling good about a future close of tail.

date with the older woman was in the bag with in 5 minutes of meeting her.
she was very turned on with the dynamic and the fact that my frame was strong.

i didn't push for a bang. wasn't all that into her. she wanted to set up plans for next time.

this has been happening consistently on okc dates. almost none of the women ive met so far have been interesting enough for me to go on a second date. Sometimes I'll push for a bang when I'm horny but otherwise i'm apathetic.

I need to get a new mass text approach going. My rate of reciprocation has plummeted.

The goal is to screen for girls who are available to hang during the day, but to not offend the girls that have already told me they work 9-5.

I realize the initial text might have to be something completely unrelated to what's going on in terms of logistics.

I think it needs to be something to just get their attention or make them laugh.

called the 18yo tinder girl last night and told her we can pregame at her dorm before going out tonight. texted her before and she responded with "nahhh i want to go out"

wonder how this will turn out

(04-15-2014 10:53 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  god [email protected]% DAMMIT just went out with a solid 6 from OKC and I was absolutely intimidated. date lasted for 2 hours and she even told me she hooked numerous times in the past and the best comeback I had was can I kiss you now. walked her to the subway station and still was afraid to make any move. I hate myself for being such a f&ckin* loser

why do i always forget the one golden rule of "escalate like you'll never see her again" dammit

(04-15-2014 10:53 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  god [email protected]% DAMMIT just went out with a solid 6 from OKC and I was absolutely intimidated. date lasted for 2 hours and she even told me she hooked numerous times in the past and the best comeback I had was can I kiss you now. walked her to the subway station and still was afraid to make any move. I hate myself for being such a f&ckin* loser

why do i always forget the one golden rule of "escalate like you'll never see her again" dammit

Chin up buddy! A line that has worked really well for me over the past 6 months is just to eventually look at her and say "I really want to kiss you right now", look into her eyes, hold her stare for 1 second, and then go for it. I'm probably hitting 80% with that line, and it's easier than just waiting for that 'perfect moment'.

(04-16-2014 09:55 AM)soup Wrote:  I need to get a new mass text approach going. My rate of reciprocation has plummeted.

The goal is to screen for girls who are available to hang during the day, but to not offend the girls that have already told me they work 9-5.

I realize the initial text might have to be something completely unrelated to what's going on in terms of logistics.

I think it needs to be something to just get their attention or make them laugh.

I'd perhaps mark their names in their phone a certain way, or put certain phone numbers into groups/folders for easier mass texting.

Perhaps you can mark the 9-5 ladies at "95" and the morning people as some other numbers for more targeted texting.

Got back from my first date of the day. No bang, but she was eye fucking me like crazy. Didn't want to have a drink at my place. She lost out.

(04-11-2014 01:53 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  #3 also arranged for 9pm, told me she has work next day and can only do drink and chat, offered to hang Saturday night and is probably a 5. Also a new prospect

Went on a date with this one tonight. 33yo OKC, nice body since she practices hot yoga.

DHV right from the start by walking her to the lounge that's guest list only. Sat down, talked and pushed for escalation this time. Asked questions like what's the craziest thing you've done while intoxicated and are you a good kisser, moved to step 6 of DiCarlo ladder and have my arm around her yet she managed to shift away from me every 5 minutes. We both drank more, I decided to flirt with other girls and just be chatty with everyone to DHV more, came back and still won't let me kiss her.

Asked if I was a monogamous kinda guy in which I responded with laughter.

Texted 18yo tinder girl for meet up and didn't get response.

Gave PR lady my number+email and she's suppose to hook me up with Autos Show pre-party tomorrow night, not sure if I was gamed by her.

soup i've been getting a lot of successful number closes today but with the "I wont be free till next week"

what do you do in this situation? keep texting them till next week? or stop texting and reinitiate again?

how do you keep their attention till 4+ days from now?

(04-17-2014 12:35 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  soup i've been getting a lot of successful number closes today but with the "I wont be free till next week"

what do you do in this situation? keep texting them till next week? or stop texting and reinitiate again?

how do you keep their attention till 4+ days from now?

They are trying to put you in a frame.

If you try to hit them up before, they will bitch about how they told you they weren't free.

If you wait like a good boy to hit them up when they've said, you'll get the friend/creepzone.

The thing to do is have more and more girls in your life. You will text the girls whenever you want, not when they want you to.

They will probably be able to tell if you are texting from alphaness or betaness. They've got an almost sixth sense for that kind of thing.

My advice is to keep them in your phone, and for every one girl that rejects you, go approach 5-10 more.

For the future, keep in mind that it's best not to even let them get a chance to tell you something like that. You have to come off as so attractive, that they wouldn't put you on hold. Imagine if Brad Pitt got the girl's number. She's not going to tell Brad, "I wont be free till next week".

That's the standard to keep in mind if you really want to be slick.

delete

Also, every rejection makes the next acceptance stronger.

This is because if you are getting a lot of "no"s, it means that when a girl actually gives you indicators, then it's probably more likely to happen because she's bucking the trend.

If you have bad game, but some random girl is displaying cues that she's into you, it probably means that she's DTF because she's not carrying about social stigma of being with a guy with bad game (an unattractive guy).

Have a girl that wants to be a potential "sugar baby" on the line dangling. Kind of pissed her off tonight, which is fine. I really don't care about this one. Sex could be fun though. I'll let her come back to me. I'd never pay her.

(04-17-2014 12:35 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  soup i've been getting a lot of successful number closes today but with the "I wont be free till next week"

what do you do in this situation? keep texting them till next week? or stop texting and reinitiate again?

how do you keep their attention till 4+ days from now?

I'm going to go against the general blog/forum advice - but I often keep texting through whatsapp. Not too much, and just light banter/funny stuff, or sending a picture of something I'm doing.

But while this is against the "general advice of only text logistics", I DO use a lot of the guidelines from game, ie: get her emotionally invested, slightly try to sexualize the convo, make her "prove herself" to me and me DHV'ing.
This is not too in your face, but since I'm good at texting I can pull this of. I also try not to date since I don't have the time for multiple dates with the same girl without results, so I have to persuade them to drive to place. This takes comfort and eagerness and I build it through text.

I have the same issue as well and have tried different approaches with different results.

I've had girls that would always say I'm busy this week and never heard back from after I text them a week later. But also had one girl who was actually busy for 2 weeks and met up after, although she was also well invested in her OKC responses initially.

Nowadays I just follow casio's way. When girls say they are busy this week I just ignore that answer and respond with let's grab a drink two days from now (weekday) The flake rate is also very high.

Sometimes I feel like it's a shit test because they have so many guys hitting them up they just say that to everyone (if she's not that attracted to you in the first place) and only meet those who plow through it.

Find out where they live/work, keep them entertained by sending picture every 2-3 days and follow up with I'll be in your neighborhood tonight let's grab a drink.

For most of the time if they don't meet you the week you got their number they probably never will.

(04-17-2014 12:41 AM)soup Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 12:35 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  soup i've been getting a lot of successful number closes today but with the "I wont be free till next week"

The thing to do is have more and more girls in your life. You will text the girls whenever you want, not when they want you to.

My advice is to keep them in your phone, and for every one girl that rejects you, go approach 5-10 more.

As a beginner I get one number every two to three weeks, in average. So it's difficult to play numbers game and hear "I won't be free til next week" Really admire guys who can pull it off.