Been using this since last night to pipeline for New Orleans and already have close to 10 girls to show me around.

I changed my GPS location to as central as possible.

Swiped a couple of hundred and let it sit till morning. Had about 60 matches.

Open them with some good one liners, explain I'm moving to New Orleans for a bit and that I should get their FB details to keep in touch in case I delete Tinder.

Its still a few weeks away but its a good start for some cute girls to show me around town.

Ill be ramping it up more the week before I arrive. Got a few unsolicited phone numbers and invites to hang out tonight too.The New Orleans quality seems pretty high. Looking forward to it.

After her first replies, I entered this conversation thinking it was a lost cause. Mega hamster but got the digits.
Goddamn this forum is helpful, if I saw myself getting numbers this consistently pre-Roosh I wouldn't have believed it.

my god. I tell the bitch after 3 messages, give me your number or get lost. Not on here to play games

For me, no thrill in living off low hanging fruit.

why do get the number if you can push for a date over the tinder conversation, too much flaking

(03-06-2014 04:53 PM)chyamor Wrote:  my god. I tell the bitch after 3 messages, give me your number or get lost. Not on here to play games

That's the part your missing my man. You're pushing to close her based how physically attractive you are to her. If you spend a little time gaming her(not too much of course) she'll make a decision based on your looks AND your personality.

To get back on those mock up location questions (if this has been resolved, excuse me). For android go to location service settinf and turn them all off. Download the "Fake GPS" app from play store. Pick a location and enjoy. I did great in Korea. Turns out one of these Korean girls is actually visiting The Netherlands (where I live) later this month.

Blick that was some good text game! But wow is she a weirdo

(03-06-2014 05:18 PM)void Wrote:  why do get the number if you can push for a date over the tinder conversation, too much flaking

But it seems that Blick got a date at the petting zoo... which hopefully he will require the expansion of additional kinds of petting.

(03-06-2014 05:44 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 04:53 PM)chyamor Wrote:  my god. I tell the bitch after 3 messages, give me your number or get lost. Not on here to play games

That's the part your missing my man. You're pushing to close her based how physically attractive you are to her. If you spend a little time gaming her(not too much of course) she'll make a decision based on your looks AND your personality.

Parlay is correct. U need to at least use a little light banter. But really nothing more. There's no point in trying to build attraction or talk about "who you are" etc with messages. I'll do a little playful messages back and forth, then move straight into something like, "anyway cool well i have to cut this short...was on my way to workout (work, meet up with a friend,...etc. ALWAYS BE BUSY DOING SOMETHING is the point) how about drinks XYZ night at 8...lmk and send it to my real number (xxx) this app doesn't always show messages

Just try not to get caught up in a long conversation. Save that for a meet-up. And get the number while blending it in the conversation/last statement. Don't just send a blank "what's your number?"

I've only been on this app for about 2 weeks now. Met up with two girls, first on a blowjob, the other one a make-out, couldn't escalate more than that, but she wants to meet up again. Next week I have 3 dates lined out, and a handful of other very likely prospects.

I don't spend a lot of time on messaging these girls either. Again here are my openers that have worked really well at getting a positive response. Wait 1 or 2 days after you match.

"hey (her name) how are ya...just catching up on here. im more of a meet up/have awkward conversations kinda guy plus i think chatting online is a bit boring. let's have drinks sometime. for me next week will be better...lmk"

OR..

"hi (her name) how are u....im just catching up on here. warning-i suck at messaging back and forth on here...but i will get back to u so hit me up"

Giving credit where it's due, I give credit to McQueen for the lower case letters, very little or no punctuation. No emotions.

I've had girls message me back in complete agreement and giving their number before I even ask using these two openers.

Best of luck gents.

^^^ On that lower case typing thing, all phones these days now auto-capitalize. So to type in all lower would actually take more effort and seem like you are doing it on purpose. Is it that big a deal?

(03-07-2014 04:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  ^^^ On that lower case typing thing, all phones these days now auto-capitalize. So to type in all lower would actually take more effort and seem like you are doing it on purpose. Is it that big a deal?

Hard to say if it's a deal-breaker. I haven't seen any hard evidence to suggest one way or the other, nor have I had any girl call me out on it.

But I see your point that it could seem like it's being done on purpose. Good call. I'll change it to see if I get the same response rate. Why not.

As far as the effort, I made that template and saved it in my notes, so it's a copy and paste job. I only take the time to insert their name. And if there's something that catches my eye about their photo or mini profile, I'll sometimes make a light comment.

Here's something I stole straight from one of McQueen's podcasts:

"Hey lets get drunk some time and talk shit"

Most girls said yes in their reply, or they would ask what I meant.

No matter what they replied I asked for their number in my reply.

The majority of girls were giving out their number like it was candy.

I always swipe right and copy paste responses to the girls that I would bang. Obviously that's a pretty hard screen, but it works for me. I sit in class and play tinder like it's a game.

(03-07-2014 09:55 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  I sit in class and play tinder like it's a game.

it is a game

(02-27-2014 03:46 PM)mbare Wrote:  I think saying you're busy this week, and that "next week will be better" is KEY.

Question about this.

Given that girls tend to be a flaky lot with attention span of ADHD goldfish, how can you make them not forgot about you till the date that is a week after?

(03-08-2014 10:35 PM)Rootless Wrote:  

(02-27-2014 03:46 PM)mbare Wrote:  I think saying you're busy this week, and that "next week will be better" is KEY.

Question about this.

Given that girls tend to be a flaky lot with attention span of ADHD goldfish, how can you make them not forgot about you till the date that is a week after?

Yes, that's true regarding their goldfish brains. On a few occasions they have just fallen away, but who knows if it's because I delayed the meet-up or not.

Regarding "busy until next week", on some occasions I really am that busy. If I get a response from the initial text, I follow-up with a little small talk and go for getting their REAL number. "I don't get on here that often" or "This app doesn't always work...send me your number" Here's mine...xxxxxxx.

From there hit them up 2 or 3 days later with a specific plan to meet up. If you're getting enough matches, REAL numbers, etc it won't matter that she can make it or not. If not, then tell the next one in the line-up your plan.

If you don't want to play the "busy til next week" thing, then I suggest to at least say you're busy the next day or two, and to plan the date 2 or 3 days out from initial contact. Is this 100 percent? Nope, and that's where you'll have to read the situation to she if she's down for an instadate that night.

As side notes:
-Getting their REAL number is beneficial-breaks down psychological barriers a little more.
-Being busy I think is better. It shows you're doing your own thing, on your own terms...you set the pace, and it helps build intrigue, and shows you're not too eager. Not to say guys with lots of time on their hands aren't getting any, but I prefer the former.

three message number close

(03-09-2014 01:54 AM)Sudden Wrote:  three message number close

(03-08-2014 11:14 PM)mbare Wrote:  Yes, that's true regarding their goldfish brains. On a few occasions they have just fallen away, but who knows if it's because I delayed the meet-up or not.

Regarding "busy until next week", on some occasions I really am that busy. If I get a response from the initial text, I follow-up with a little small talk and go for getting their REAL number. "I don't get on here that often" or "This app doesn't always work...send me your number" Here's mine...xxxxxxx.

From there hit them up 2 or 3 days later with a specific plan to meet up. If you're getting enough matches, REAL numbers, etc it won't matter that she can make it or not. If not, then tell the next one in the line-up your plan.

If you don't want to play the "busy til next week" thing, then I suggest to at least say you're busy the next day or two, and to plan the date 2 or 3 days out from initial contact. Is this 100 percent? Nope, and that's where you'll have to read the situation to she if she's down for an instadate that night.

As side notes:
-Getting their REAL number is beneficial-breaks down psychological barriers a little more.
-Being busy I think is better. It shows you're doing your own thing, on your own terms...you set the pace, and it helps build intrigue, and shows you're not too eager. Not to say guys with lots of time on their hands aren't getting any, but I prefer the former.

I disagree a little bit, I usually push for meeting that night or the next day with the pretense that I'm busy the rest of the week. If they can't swing that then I'll tell them next week.

If they are willing to meet you that night the odds of banging go up like crazy

(03-09-2014 01:46 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  I disagree a little bit, I usually push for meeting that night or the next day with the pretense that I'm busy the rest of the week. If they can't swing that then I'll tell them next week.

If they are willing to meet you that night the odds of banging go up like crazy

Same, asap if possible saying you're busy on the other days.

(03-09-2014 01:47 PM)TimDV Wrote:  

(03-09-2014 01:46 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  I disagree a little bit, I usually push for meeting that night or the next day with the pretense that I'm busy the rest of the week. If they can't swing that then I'll tell them next week.

If they are willing to meet you that night the odds of banging go up like crazy

Same, asap if possible saying you're busy on the other days.

Cool, yeah I don't disagree with your method. Which is why I gave the caveat of "you must read the situation" and decide if you want to push for the date that night or the next day. As we know a lot of things like this depend on the type of girl/situation, which is why I rarely speak in absolutes.

Pushing for a "next week" meet up is merely another avenue to consider. I usually do prefer to move fast and hard while the fire is still hot so to speak. This is especially true for meeting a girl in a club. The method I described really came about from necessity, because I REALLY didn't have time to meet up with them that night or that week. Since Tinder is an easy come/easy go "game" I wanted to at least send some message. The one I came up with works, as noted by upcoming dates that I've delayed. They're still on the hook 1 or 2 weeks later after making initial contact...now I just need to drag them in the boat. I have two lined up that I delayed for the next two days in fact.

So in conclusion, understanding I've pushed for early and delayed meet-ups, I'd say both have their benefits and risks like everything. Too soon and it could kill the mystery and make you seem too eager, wait too long and she may drop you off her radar and be taking some other dudes dick instead of yours.

By the way, and only out of curiosity, have you all tried delaying these women, or do you ALWAYS push for a meet-up as soon as you "match"?

I often am busy, so I can often only meet like a week/few days later. But i've found that girls tend to flake more easily or have doubts about their instant decisions if I delay too much. Ie, they say to come over to your place, and then a few dates later they ask "maybe we should go and have a drink somewhere first".

(03-08-2014 11:14 PM)mbare Wrote:  Regarding "busy until next week", on some occasions I really am that busy. If I get a response from the initial text, I follow-up with a little small talk and go for getting their REAL number. "I don't get on here that often" or "This app doesn't always work...send me your number" Here's mine...xxxxxxx.

If you don't want to play the "busy til next week" thing, then I suggest to at least say you're busy the next day or two, and to plan the date 2 or 3 days out from initial contact. Is this 100 percent? Nope, and that's where you'll have to read the situation to she if she's down for an instadate that night.

As side notes:
-Getting their REAL number is beneficial-breaks down psychological barriers a little more.
-Being busy I think is better. It shows you're doing your own thing, on your own terms...you set the pace, and it helps build intrigue, and shows you're not too eager. Not to say guys with lots of time on their hands aren't getting any, but I prefer the former.

I agree that being busy (both making them think that you're busy and actually being busy) is important, by using "I'm busy this week" yielded much better results then "let's go grab a beer on [day]"

I've tried hitting them up after few days to make up the plans which is other good technique.

Let's say you did that and there is still a week till the date, does waiting till three days before the date and then texting "hey are we still meeting on [day]?" advisable?
It's a bit beta (asking question rather then leading), and "can you confirm that we're meeting on [day]" just doesn't sounds right.

What do you think?

(03-09-2014 01:46 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  I disagree a little bit, I usually push for meeting that night or the next day with the pretense that I'm busy the rest of the week. If they can't swing that then I'll tell them next week.

If they are willing to meet you that night the odds of banging go up like crazy

Interesting, I'll need to try that.

I got a 9 I'm gonna deep dick on Tinder tomorrow. She's a friend of a friend. I'm worried since I know her ex has herpes. #doublebag

(03-10-2014 09:33 PM)Rootless Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 11:14 PM)mbare Wrote:  Regarding "busy until next week", on some occasions I really am that busy. If I get a response from the initial text, I follow-up with a little small talk and go for getting their REAL number. "I don't get on here that often" or "This app doesn't always work...send me your number" Here's mine...xxxxxxx.

If you don't want to play the "busy til next week" thing, then I suggest to at least say you're busy the next day or two, and to plan the date 2 or 3 days out from initial contact. Is this 100 percent? Nope, and that's where you'll have to read the situation to she if she's down for an instadate that night.

As side notes:
-Getting their REAL number is beneficial-breaks down psychological barriers a little more.
-Being busy I think is better. It shows you're doing your own thing, on your own terms...you set the pace, and it helps build intrigue, and shows you're not too eager. Not to say guys with lots of time on their hands aren't getting any, but I prefer the former.

I agree that being busy (both making them think that you're busy and actually being busy) is important, by using "I'm busy this week" yielded much better results then "let's go grab a beer on [day]"

I've tried hitting them up after few days to make up the plans which is other good technique.

Let's say you did that and there is still a week till the date, does waiting till three days before the date and then texting "hey are we still meeting on [day]?" advisable?
It's a bit beta (asking question rather then leading), and "can you confirm that we're meeting on [day]" just doesn't sounds right.

What do you think?

(03-09-2014 01:46 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  I disagree a little bit, I usually push for meeting that night or the next day with the pretense that I'm busy the rest of the week. If they can't swing that then I'll tell them next week.

If they are willing to meet you that night the odds of banging go up like crazy

Interesting, I'll need to try that.

Rootless,

Yes, that's a beta thing to say. Never ask. Tell them what to do/take the lead.

"Hey what up, so drinks Tuesday (xxx place) at 8...lmk"