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lex the impaler 路 2016-11-09 21:33:00 路 #3476
(11-09-2016 07:49 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(11-09-2016 07:13 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  I'm just gonna shoot from the hip:

Why would a black man stay in America?

(1) Your woman has revolted
(2) A growing Hispanic community that wants nothing to do with you and wants to play the role of White America's favourite minority
(3) A police force that hates you
(4) You own people shoot you
(5) Harmful stereotypes that have been around for centuries that are alive and kicking today in 2016

And these all applied before a guy, who got 8 percent of your vote, won the election and your congress. I hate to say this but I would strongly suggest you look for a plan B because you guys voted for the opposite (overwhelmingly) and your voices were not heard. Despite being in that country for centuries, shedding blood for their wars, fertilizing the soil with the sweat of your ancestors, various protests and riots: your voices were completely ignored.

And the worse part is, it WILL only get worse.

I was just thinking about this today as well... I'm glad I left 6 years ago and I realized recently odds are slim that I'm moving back.

In no particular order

1. More opportunity - I feel as a black man here I have more opportunity career wise. When people know you.. you are seen as "an American" and not as a black guy. Race won't be the thing holding you back from jobs and whatnot.

2. Dating - I feel like I had so much more opportunity here with women and from the recent Croatia thread I don't think I need to dig deeper into that explanation.

3. Cost of Living - I can live in the middle of Europe for a reasonable price

4. Health Insurance - Medical is cheaper and you dont have to worry about getting sick and losing everything you have.

5. No hood niggas - I don't miss that hood nigga mentality and ghetto black people judging you because you are "different" and/or trying to drag you down with them.

6. Police - I have been harassed by police in the US but NEVER here. NOT ONCE in 6 years.


Of course there are drawbacks I haven't mention but as soon as I have the energy and desire to write up my huge 6 years in Germany thread ill drop all the info.

I am suffering from homesickness due to cultural differences but other than that life isn't too bad here for an American black guy.

1. I think it's been posted on this here very thread, there's no other place where life is better for a black man than in the states. The opportunities are endless.
2. I think its pretty easy avoiding cops. I've been violated by the cops once in 12 years.
3. I agree, most black women in this country are a lost cause (for LTR & marriage). Ignore at your own peril. Only exceptions are west indians and africans.
4. Ghetto blacks... I don't like ghettoness. I think no one does other than ghetto people.
5. I agree that its imperative that within the next 4 years, we collectively need get plan Bs, cause things aren't going to get any better. There's alot of misplaced anger and hate towards us. I feel it everyday.
6. Trump is the least of black people's worries. What concerns me more is the underlying tones of *some* of his supporters. Oh well. Chalk it up to the game.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-10 06:37:00 路 #3477
@DMario

It could be a lot of things.
My first question is how many 7's and above are running around in your area?
I've lived in places with abundant chicks, but also the opposite.

Small metro areas just don't have lots of good looking chicks (pretty bitches move to big cities), so your opportunity to get used to talking to them decreases. Thus you place too much value in the looks, and then can't truly be comfortable during the approach.

I go back and forth on whether a truly different approach is needed for 9/10's - but most of the 10 problem is finding them bitches. From there it's getting in at the top of their social circle.

If we're talking just 7's, I'd call that typical girlfriend zone, and that is probably intimidation on your part.

WIA
rudebwoy 路 2016-11-10 11:27:00 路 #3478
1. I think it's been posted on this here very thread, there's no other place where life is better for a black man than in the states. The opportunities are endless.


Statistics paint a different picture.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-10 11:39:00 路 #3479
For the foreseeable future, this will be the only thread I post in. And I don't know how long the peace will last here.

After that?
Y'all know where to find me when I'm gone.

http://www.westindianarchie.com

WIA
DimeBait 路 2016-11-10 11:48:00 路 #3480
(11-10-2016 11:27 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  1. I think it's been posted on this here very thread, there's no other place where life is better for a black man than in the states. The opportunities are endless.


Statistics paint a different picture.

It think it varies greatly geographically. Opportunities are vastly different in Baltimore versus ATL. or LA vs Portland. However you can't escape the stigma of national sentiments no matter where you are.
I think the OP is referring to the opportunity for Americans in general when it comes to business opportunities and cultivating personal wealth opposed to nations where you have to know somebody who knows somebody to succeed.
Personally, I just want to to dip my toe in the international waters before I take the plunge. If I like it or not then c'est la vie!
Avon Barksdale 路 2016-11-10 13:25:00 路 #3481
Damn i have been gone from the forum for about 2 and half months, whats been going on?
the high 路 2016-11-10 13:36:00 路 #3482
Out of curiosity WIA, I know who West Indian Archie is, but why did you choose that name?
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-10 13:56:00 路 #3483
Read the passage where Malcolm describes him

WIA
kirdiesel 路 2016-11-10 14:22:00 路 #3484
Archie after observing the rest of the forum I found out that the travel and black threads are the best place to stay around here.

There's way too much arguing on here and dare I say racism as well (not just again blacks either)

What that dude posted in that Croatia thread was sickening. You would think after meeting so many people here and see how us brothers here you would think different. Some people man.
DimeBait 路 2016-11-10 14:48:00 路 #3485
(11-10-2016 02:22 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Archie after observing the rest of the forum I found out that the travel and black threads are the best place to stay around here.

There's way too much arguing on here and dare I say racism as well (not just again blacks either)

What that dude posted in that Croatia thread was sickening. You would think after meeting so many people here and see how us brothers here you would think different. Some people man.

I don't go anywhere else.
In my experience, folks will happily suck up free game from you then refer to you as a n***** with impunity.
Chowder Head 路 2016-11-10 14:51:00 路 #3486
(11-10-2016 11:39 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  For the foreseeable future, this will be the only thread I post in. And I don't know how long the peace will last here.

After that?
Y'all know where to find me when I'm gone.

http://www.westindianarchie.com

WIA

What happened?
rudebwoy 路 2016-11-10 17:39:00 路 #3487
(11-10-2016 02:22 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Archie after observing the rest of the forum I found out that the travel and black threads are the best place to stay around here.

There's way too much arguing on here and dare I say racism as well (not just again blacks either)

What that dude posted in that Croatia thread was sickening. You would think after meeting so many people here and see how us brothers here you would think different. Some people man.

It's called hate, jealous and envy.

I will be leaving as well, we will be revealing a new site soon.

I will let Moma drop the details...
Ogunn 路 2016-11-10 18:10:00 路 #3488
(11-10-2016 05:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 02:22 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Archie after observing the rest of the forum I found out that the travel and black threads are the best place to stay around here.

There's way too much arguing on here and dare I say racism as well (not just again blacks either)

What that dude posted in that Croatia thread was sickening. You would think after meeting so many people here and see how us brothers here you would think different. Some people man.

It's called hate, jealous and envy.

I will be leaving as well, we will be revealing a new site soon.

I will let Moma drop the details...

I am sad to see both of you brothers moving on.

Hell it was because of your threads and contributions that I developed the traveler mentality. Rudebwoy & West Indian Archie I owe you both a debt a of gratitude.

Please make sure you let us know where you guys are moving on to.
azulsombra 路 2016-11-10 19:13:00 路 #3489
(11-09-2016 07:13 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  I'm just gonna shoot from the hip:

Why would a black man stay in America?

(1) Your woman has revolted
(2) A growing Hispanic community that wants nothing to do with you and wants to play the role of White America's favourite minority
(3) A police force that hates you
(4) You own people shoot you
(5) Harmful stereotypes that have been around for centuries that are alive and kicking today in 2016

Despite being in that country for centuries, shedding blood for their wars, fertilizing the soil with the sweat of your ancestors, various protests and riots: your voices were completely ignored.

And the worse part is, it WILL only get worse.

Well said.
Advent Persona 路 2016-11-10 21:55:00 路 #3490
(11-10-2016 05:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I will be leaving as well, we will be revealing a new site soon.

I will let Moma drop the details...

Damn...
DMario 路 2016-11-11 03:02:00 路 #3491
(11-10-2016 06:37 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @DMario

It could be a lot of things.
My first question is how many 7's and above are running around in your area?
I've lived in places with abundant chicks, but also the opposite.

Small metro areas just don't have lots of good looking chicks (pretty bitches move to big cities), so your opportunity to get used to talking to them decreases. Thus you place too much value in the looks, and then can't truly be comfortable during the approach.

I go back and forth on whether a truly different approach is needed for 9/10's - but most of the 10 problem is finding them bitches. From there it's getting in at the top of their social circle.

If we're talking just 7's, I'd call that typical girlfriend zone, and that is probably intimidation on your part.

WIA

Im currently living in Mexico City so there's not an abundance of 7+ at all. I feel I have no problem with the initial approach, its just hard for me to capitalize after that.

I still pull 7s and up sometimes, but its not nearly as much as I do with 6s
burncushlikewood 路 2016-11-11 07:12:00 路 #3492
(11-11-2016 03:02 AM)DMario Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 06:37 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @DMario

It could be a lot of things.
My first question is how many 7's and above are running around in your area?
I've lived in places with abundant chicks, but also the opposite.

Small metro areas just don't have lots of good looking chicks (pretty bitches move to big cities), so your opportunity to get used to talking to them decreases. Thus you place too much value in the looks, and then can't truly be comfortable during the approach.

I go back and forth on whether a truly different approach is needed for 9/10's - but most of the 10 problem is finding them bitches. From there it's getting in at the top of their social circle.

If we're talking just 7's, I'd call that typical girlfriend zone, and that is probably intimidation on your part.

WIA

Im currently living in Mexico City so there's not an abundance of 7+ at all. I feel I have no problem with the initial approach, its just hard for me to capitalize after that.

I still pull 7s and up sometimes, but its not nearly as much as I do with 6s

If you want to get those upper quality girls you really have to focus on the first stage. Everyone knows the attraction, comfort, and seduction methods, so in order to succeed with these lizards you have to build attraction. DHV is the key and everyone should know the traits of an alpha male. My theory is the 7 gets jealous of the 8, just as the 8 gets jealous of the 9, etc. Nothing gets a 10 going more than being seen with a solid girl around her, thats why night game always remains king for me cause where else do you get the chance to interact with so many people and raise your stock that high.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-11 08:55:00 路 #3493
@DMario

1) congrats, I hope I'm like you when i grow up
2) what's your game look like, what does it sound like?

World game is different than same basic culture game. You basically need the man to woman subcommunications to be strong enough to deal with the social dissonance

WIA
Iso 路 2016-11-11 10:36:00 路 #3494
(11-10-2016 11:39 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  For the foreseeable future, this will be the only thread I post in. And I don't know how long the peace will last here.

After that?
Y'all know where to find me when I'm gone.

http://www.westindianarchie.com

WIA
Really? We are going to miss your contributions in the game threads.

Do you have any plans for a pay for tailored advice site or being a wingman?
DimeBait 路 2016-11-11 12:25:00 路 #3495
FYI,
Found this info when looking for info on paid subscription based forums:

https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comm...d_private/

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-interne...rship.html
Apollo21 路 2016-11-11 12:58:00 路 #3496
Interesting list of Celebrity Interracial Couples:
http://www.trendelier.com/famous-biracia...hollywood/

Meanwhile Snoop Dog is doing a cooking show with Martha Stewart
and Common is getting "cozy" with Laura Dern...

Can just imagine what the next 15 years are going to look like...
I see even more opportunities for brothers...as long as they have the skills
and have something going for themselves.
the high 路 2016-11-11 15:53:00 路 #3497
Common going from Taraji P. Henson to Laura Dern is definitely a step down.
DimeBait 路 2016-11-11 15:56:00 路 #3498
(11-11-2016 03:53 PM)the high Wrote:  Common going from Taraji P. Henson to Laura Dern is definitely a step down.

ForRealz!
262 路 2016-11-13 08:26:00 路 #3499
I can honestly see why guys more oriented to self-improvement would want to leave as this space goes more political. Some of these self-improvement guys have already left, and some quite a while ago.

My guess? They didn't want to associate with an increasing number of guys not on a self-improvement track. And they didn't want to associate with an increasing number of guys who substitute politics for it.

Here's what they may be seeing:

1) RoK is running an article titled, "Why It鈥檚 Absolutely Worth It To Learn Game." The author feels compelled to try and convince an increasing majority of the readership ... to learn Game. Article: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-59309.html

2) Some Politics-focused posters freely admit their beginner Game status, and/or their overweight status, and continue to show no improvement.

3) Some Politics-focused posters say they have Game, but then get angry over politics. You'd think going through the beginner phase of Game, and getting rejected by significant numbers of girls, would make them adaptable to not getting their way all the time. Granted, conflict is attention, but that's what things like Twitter are supposedly for, not this forum (otherwise there'd be no rules here).

4) Most importantly, the presence of such posters is tolerated, as long as they have the "correct" political views. And I say that as someone sharing many of those views.
Kieran 路 2016-11-13 10:09:00 路 #3500
WIA is one of the main draws to the forum for me. If people like him leave, then soon there won't be much left on the forum besides advice to work out more / get a new suit. The forum has become a bit of an echo chamber in that regard.
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