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Eddie Winslow 路 2016-11-04 12:46:00 路 #8852
(11-04-2016 12:10 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote: ^ That chick sounds like a MASSIVE cunt. Why put yourself through all that just for the privilege of buying her a drink?
If she was trying to back out, she would have made up a lie I couldn't talk her out of. She wouldn't answer her phone. She certainly wouldn't give me her address. She was very sweet and fun when we met up and barely even glanced at her phone.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and after this level of investment I don't want to quit. Probably foolish, but its a risk I'm willing to take.
kaotic 路 2016-11-04 12:50:00 路 #8853
(11-03-2016 03:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: " She said she needs a big rock - I told her I'd get one from a specific beach we talked about and throw it at her."
*spits out Laphroaig*
WIA
She laughed a good bit at that one.
This is basically me, all smart ass remarks and comebacks.
She ate it up, every girl does.
The way I talked to the mexicana last night was even more dirtier and trashier - I ended up balls deep in her after "we're not having sex"
She even told me her last date was fucking boring as well.
I've found that using my quick witted, smart ass, ramble, shit talking game ALWAYS wins her mind and soul.
Because she's always laughing the entire date and having fun trying to shoot back.
(11-03-2016 05:35 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote: I'm driving 75 minutes from NJ to meet her near campus - logisitcs are terrible unless she invites me back to her apartment. But I don't care - I haven't been going out much lately, and it feels great to know I can still easily score girls this hot and young at almost 30.
We'll see what happens.
(11-04-2016 11:30 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote: I've never had my emotions toyed with so much on a first date.
70 miles and $10 in tolls later, I arrive at the bar I was supposed to meet my girl. I find a tiny spot right in front of the bar and spend more than 5 minutes parallel parking. Finally squeezed in with less than two inches to spare.
I get out and look at my phone, and see a text from my girl.
"don't hate meee..."
Yeah how'd that work out ? YOU drove all that fucking way for a bitch to basically almost flake on you ?
FUCK THAT.
Burned through gas, tolls, time, energy, AND it was 75 miles away ?
Here I'm thinking 20 miles max is far away.
Quote:This fucking girl confirmed plans three times, including right before I got in my car to meet her, and then flaked as I ARRIVED, knowing how far I drove. Her excuse was that she really wanted to meet me, but her weekly paycheck hadn't arrived in the mail that day, she "forgot to tell me," and that she wanted to reschedule as she would feel very uncomfortable if I paid for her drinks. Of course this was all through text.
Females never forget to tell shit, they conveniently leave things out of the story.
She was hoping you'd probably just bail after dropping that excuse, more than likely she might of had what she thought were better plans.
Quote:I wasn't even angry - my brain literally could not compute what had just happened. I couldn't comprehend how anyone over the age of 7 could be so incredibly inconsiderate. I decided it'd be best to call her while I was still calm, she answered, and she apologized. I explained that I was planning on paying. I teased her lightly for being an asshole, even though it was not a teasing matter. She was most definitely an asshole of epic proportions, and I felt my shock turning into rage with every passing moment. .However, since she actually was not a complete coward and answered her phone, I gave her the benefit of the doubt and assumed she was sincere. .
Calling her and talking to her straight up was a smart move.
I would never of told her that, I wouldn't let her assume anything.
Just get her out and get things going.
Quote:I knew I didn't have too much bargaining or guilt tripping power with someone who was willing to do me so dirty, so I didn't scold her or aggressively shame her into meeting up. I very tentatively agreed with her counter offer to meet up on Saturday instead.
I told her I didn't have it in me to get right back on the road, and that I was going to grab a drink. I did, vented on the phone to a couple close friends, and then thought about what to do.
You're right, you didn't have much power, because you're the one in a compromised position of visiting her in her hometown.
I'd be pissed, I'd of taken off, and never talked to that bitch again, you don't reward females who disrespect you.
Quote:20 minutes later I sent her this: "Honestly I'm more concerned with just having a fun night. You sure you don't want to just grab a quick drink? It's a completely zero pressure siutation - there's no expectations, seriously. If it's really about money just get me a drink next time or send me a check for $14 in the mail. IDGAF"
Her response: "oh ok. would still wanna go to (the bar we were supposed to meet at)?"
Why did you wait ? Why didn't you tell her on the phone ?
The last part sounded a tad bit desperate in an attempt to get her out.
Quote:She then said she wanted me to pick her up and texted me her address.
Yeah fuck that - I'd tell her I'm already drinking at the bar we're meeting up at, she can come if she wants or not.
Quote:I parked out in front of the address she gave me, called her. No answer - voicemail box is full and cannot accept any messages. Sent a text, and another text. No answer after 5 minutes. I felt like a fucking chump. Why am I allowing myself to get played? I know better than this. I was supposed to meet her at 830 - its now 10:15, and I'm still 75 minutes from home.
Waste of time and energy and a bitch can't hit you back when she's on her phone 24/7 ?
Fuck that noise, you should feel like a chump, no man should get put through shit like that dude.
Quote:At my age, 75 minutes is right at the absolute max distance I am willing to commute for pussy of this caliber. My plan is to stay as non-needy as possible, and then come back Saturday evening after she gets to have a drink or two with her friends. The iron should still be hot.
Updates to come.
Sorry dude, NO pussy is worth a 75 minute drive to me, none what so ever.
If she wants to hang she can come to me, or meet me halfway.
Shits gotta be convenient for me, besides having plenty of options - the only problem I have is scheduling girls to meet up.
As far as I see it - I still see this as a loss - because are you always going to drive to her ?
This was a bit of a desperate ploy - what happens when she pulls this shit again ? She WILL pull this shit again.
Just like in the last 2 weeks I nexted cuties on the basis of flaking and late replies - I don't got time for their BS.
I get it, you're invested, but you seem the light at the end of the tunnel.
That's a great attitude to have yes, but how long are you going to pull for this girl ?
The gist I get is that you're putting her on the pedestal and making excuses for her, you shouldn't be doing that.
Don't get me wrong, I WANT YOU to bang her, I hope you really do, just the time and effort to me isn't worth it IMHO.
Some Updates On My End:
I've got a 50% conversion bang rate this week.
Thursday bagged another girl last night, second date.
39 year old Bumble match - Korean (first one) born, California raised a goddamn handful in the sack.
Her naked was a let down, downgrade to a 5.5, her head game and being so goddamn wet was awesome.
Suggested meeting at her pad and then heading out to the local college bars.
FUCK first bar was a rip off, 2 average beers for fucking $25 ? This sheikh hipster bar wont be around for long.
Anyways, she takes me to this whiskey bar, I drink vodka, she has her whiskey on the rocks both of us have a shot of Jameson.
Warmed, up forget her name
goes to the bathroom, look it up and how to pronounce it.Come back, she takes to this really nice back house.
SUPER SUSPECT - looks like a nail salon but with shit for eyelashes, apparently this chick does it as a side job ?
Also has a fold up massage table and a spare bed, lots of random shit and clutter - I think I might like her best friend, since she's a punk rocker.
Whips out like a rare cask $300+ bottle of scotch.
We smash 3 times that night rawdog, I could only cum once because of the girl the night before, I fuck her mouth for awhile.
She wanted me to cum inside of her a few times - FUCK THAT.
This has been a hell of a week for girls - pretty stoked, but exhausted, and need sleep. My poor dick will be shooting out dust by the end of this weekend.
General Stalin 路 2016-11-04 12:54:00 路 #8854
I would never go that out of my way for a first date. Over an hour one way and $10 in tolls? Eddie W. methinks you need to develop a little more abundance. This girl may be cute, but I'm sure there are plenty of cute girls (and cuter) around where you live... unless you live in the fucking sticks then I would think about moving to a location that more fits your needs.
You invested a lot for almost nothing. Think about your ROI. You going to drive another 2 and a half hours and spend a shit load of money on tolls and drinks for this broad on a second date and likely not get laid? I'd rather pay for a hooker at that point.
You invested a lot for almost nothing. Think about your ROI. You going to drive another 2 and a half hours and spend a shit load of money on tolls and drinks for this broad on a second date and likely not get laid? I'd rather pay for a hooker at that point.
Tex 路 2016-11-04 13:31:00 路 #8855
Most eventful night of the fall for me so far that didn't involve sex.
Went on a date Wednesday night with a girl (A). Brought her to some restaurant, then played pool with her at my place, showed her some bullshit BJJ moves, made out with her, sucked her tits, and grabbed her ass. We set a time to meet up Thursday and study in the campus library since she'd be studying for her midterms all night.
I told her I would stop by at 7:30 just to stop by, then leave at 8:00 to work out and take a nap, then run back at 11:30 and study with her until the library closed. I scheduled two dates in the block between 7:30 and 11:30. Both Tinder dates.
One girl was pretty face+big butt (W), the other was slightly less attractive face, but long hair and big butt (M). I had set up a fancy ass date for Saturday with W, but told her I wanted to meet her and fuck around for an hour or so I knew she wasn't a tranny IRL. She said she was too busy, then later said she could do it, so I planned her for 8-9. Told M I would leave to pick her up at 9. M and I didn't make plans鈥攁fter I got her number on Tinder I met up with her on campus and we talked and I said we should meet up and figure out what we're doing when I show up (first time I did that).
After meeting up with A in the library, I texted asking where I should pick her up. She asked if she was coming to me or I was picking her up, I told her I was planning on picking her up but if she wanted to drive to me I was cool with it, then she said she was tired. Then M texted me saying she was down whenever. So, I said something gay to W and told M I might surprise her at 8 and I'd let her know.
Made out with A a bit, then left straight for M's house. I picked her up, and she was nervous. We talked about what to do, and I said we should play pool at my place (worked for A). We show up and I tell her I did the same thing night before with a classmate of mine when she came over to study, so I told her to fuck with my roommate and pretend she was the same girl. She did, he believed it. We played pool, but I didn't make a move besides touch her on the hips a couple times. Got scared. Told her I was hungry and wanted to tailgate some fast food overlooking the city.
She folded up the center console of my truck and sat next to me. I played some Partynextdoor and put my arm around her, played with her hair and her boob. Got some In-n-Out, then she said she needed to pee. We rolled up at the Barnes and Noble so she could use their bathroom. We walked in and as she was peeing I started reading some book about "disaster capitalism" or something. Then she came out and I grabbed her and kissed her.
We went back to my truck and drove to my place instead of tailgating, and I did the BJJ thing to her and made out with her, felt her up, slapped her ass, grinded on her a bit, but no bang because it was almost 11:30. Drove her home, parked outside her apartment and made out with her and got on top of her and I folded her seat down and choked her a bit, pulled her hair, grinded my dick on her, felt her pussy. Then she finally left and I doubled back to A.
A and I got more In-n-Out, and then i started getting de-ja-vu. M was going to Cali Friday with her friend. So was A. A ordered the same thing from In-n-Out as M. A randomly brought up Lil Dicky just like M and said her favorite song was the exact same one as M (Lemme Freak). Eventually we went to my place, watched some stupid YouTube videos, and before we left to bring her home I pulled her pants down and slapped her ass and bit it and pushed her against a wall and made out with her. Drove her home, fingered her in my truck, she offered to give me a blowjob, I said no and said we should just drive back to my place. We did, and we snuck in my room and I got her naked and made out with her. She sucked my dick and I came on her ass, then I drove her home.
Then this 33 year old Milf hit me up for sex around 4 am and I fell asleep on her. She gave me an attitude this morning about it and said "you are so close to getting blocked rn." We went back and forth for a bit, now she's talking about scratching my back as I fuck her.
You get action, you get droughts. This is my first real dose of action and it is not as easy to deal with and I thought. Also I think I'm in the American pussy paradise.
Went on a date Wednesday night with a girl (A). Brought her to some restaurant, then played pool with her at my place, showed her some bullshit BJJ moves, made out with her, sucked her tits, and grabbed her ass. We set a time to meet up Thursday and study in the campus library since she'd be studying for her midterms all night.
I told her I would stop by at 7:30 just to stop by, then leave at 8:00 to work out and take a nap, then run back at 11:30 and study with her until the library closed. I scheduled two dates in the block between 7:30 and 11:30. Both Tinder dates.
One girl was pretty face+big butt (W), the other was slightly less attractive face, but long hair and big butt (M). I had set up a fancy ass date for Saturday with W, but told her I wanted to meet her and fuck around for an hour or so I knew she wasn't a tranny IRL. She said she was too busy, then later said she could do it, so I planned her for 8-9. Told M I would leave to pick her up at 9. M and I didn't make plans鈥攁fter I got her number on Tinder I met up with her on campus and we talked and I said we should meet up and figure out what we're doing when I show up (first time I did that).
After meeting up with A in the library, I texted asking where I should pick her up. She asked if she was coming to me or I was picking her up, I told her I was planning on picking her up but if she wanted to drive to me I was cool with it, then she said she was tired. Then M texted me saying she was down whenever. So, I said something gay to W and told M I might surprise her at 8 and I'd let her know.
Made out with A a bit, then left straight for M's house. I picked her up, and she was nervous. We talked about what to do, and I said we should play pool at my place (worked for A). We show up and I tell her I did the same thing night before with a classmate of mine when she came over to study, so I told her to fuck with my roommate and pretend she was the same girl. She did, he believed it. We played pool, but I didn't make a move besides touch her on the hips a couple times. Got scared. Told her I was hungry and wanted to tailgate some fast food overlooking the city.
She folded up the center console of my truck and sat next to me. I played some Partynextdoor and put my arm around her, played with her hair and her boob. Got some In-n-Out, then she said she needed to pee. We rolled up at the Barnes and Noble so she could use their bathroom. We walked in and as she was peeing I started reading some book about "disaster capitalism" or something. Then she came out and I grabbed her and kissed her.
We went back to my truck and drove to my place instead of tailgating, and I did the BJJ thing to her and made out with her, felt her up, slapped her ass, grinded on her a bit, but no bang because it was almost 11:30. Drove her home, parked outside her apartment and made out with her and got on top of her and I folded her seat down and choked her a bit, pulled her hair, grinded my dick on her, felt her pussy. Then she finally left and I doubled back to A.
A and I got more In-n-Out, and then i started getting de-ja-vu. M was going to Cali Friday with her friend. So was A. A ordered the same thing from In-n-Out as M. A randomly brought up Lil Dicky just like M and said her favorite song was the exact same one as M (Lemme Freak). Eventually we went to my place, watched some stupid YouTube videos, and before we left to bring her home I pulled her pants down and slapped her ass and bit it and pushed her against a wall and made out with her. Drove her home, fingered her in my truck, she offered to give me a blowjob, I said no and said we should just drive back to my place. We did, and we snuck in my room and I got her naked and made out with her. She sucked my dick and I came on her ass, then I drove her home.
Then this 33 year old Milf hit me up for sex around 4 am and I fell asleep on her. She gave me an attitude this morning about it and said "you are so close to getting blocked rn." We went back and forth for a bit, now she's talking about scratching my back as I fuck her.
You get action, you get droughts. This is my first real dose of action and it is not as easy to deal with and I thought. Also I think I'm in the American pussy paradise.
Rhyme or Reason 路 2016-11-04 13:53:00 路 #8856
(11-04-2016 12:46 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:(11-04-2016 12:10 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote: ^ That chick sounds like a MASSIVE cunt. Why put yourself through all that just for the privilege of buying her a drink?
If she was trying to back out, she would have made up a lie I couldn't talk her out of. She wouldn't answer her phone. She certainly wouldn't give me her address. She was very sweet and fun when we met up and barely even glanced at her phone.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and after this level of investment I don't want to quit. Probably foolish, but its a risk I'm willing to take.
1. She did lie, lied by omission. She (accurately) assessed that you would either believe her, or that you were thirsty enough to overlook this clear sign of disrespect.
2. She was "sweet"? I don't consider people wasting my time to be sweet, I could give a fuck how she was acting during the date, in this case her shitty behavior before the fact and utter lack of respect for your time eclipses her putting on a smile and letting you buy her a drink. You're behavior here all points towards the sub conscience notion that she's the prize since you said it was "worth it". This can only get worse from here I assure you. You've already set the tone that she can do whatever the fuck she wants. As for your last point, see "sunk cost fallacy"
EDIT: I meant to include the old adage, "actions speak louder than words". Her showing up and being cordial is her words, her actions were everything leading up to that, and she's just hoping you will feel gratitude she graced you with her presence.
Eddie Winslow 路 2016-11-04 13:59:00 路 #8857
(11-04-2016 12:54 PM)General Stalin Wrote: I would never go that out of my way for a first date. Over an hour one way and $10 in tolls? Eddie W. methinks you need to develop a little more abundance. This girl may be cute, but I'm sure there are plenty of cute girls (and cuter) around where you live... unless you live in the fucking sticks then I would think about moving to a location that more fits your needs.
You invested a lot for almost nothing. Think about your ROI. You going to drive another 2 and a half hours and spend a shit load of money on tolls and drinks for this broad on a second date and likely not get laid? I'd rather pay for a hooker at that point.
Point taken.
It's been a full year since I banged a real stunner. A failed business venture left me broke, so after avoiding it as long as possible, I finally decided to move back to my parents house and am now working 3 jobs so I can GTFO as quickly as possible. I live in the suburbs between NYC and Philly where most desirable girls live with their parents too. I have to introduce plates to my mom, spend money I don't want to on a hotel, or fuck them outside somewhere. First world problems, I know.
It's very difficult to accept that I took a risk, failed, and now have to sacrifice the lifestyle I worked hard for. I know 5-6 months of no-bullshit hard work should do the trick - but every day is a real temptation to spend the money and time I do have on things, like pussy, that will make me feel better in the short term.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-04 15:55:00 路 #8858
(11-04-2016 12:54 PM)General Stalin Wrote: I would never go that out of my way for a first date. Over an hour one way and $10 in tolls? Eddie W. methinks you need to develop a little more abundance. This girl may be cute, but I'm sure there are plenty of cute girls (and cuter) around where you live... unless you live in the fucking sticks then I would think about moving to a location that more fits your needs.
You invested a lot for almost nothing. Think about your ROI. You going to drive another 2 and a half hours and spend a shit load of money on tolls and drinks for this broad on a second date and likely not get laid? I'd rather pay for a hooker at that point.
Hopefully the 20 bucks in return tolls and the long ass drive will be the cheapest lesson in abundance he'll pay for.
WIA
BlueResolute 路 2016-11-04 21:02:00 路 #8859
I'm hanging up the online game. I got far more success just going out in person than online. Online is a waste of time and is mostly for shut ins. Get those girls up in the face and they're a lot more attached.
Chetthebaker 路 2016-11-05 01:41:00 路 #8860
Fuck. I'm 7 weeks through an intensive 3 month school thing and trying to get some new pussy going on outside of my one regular. There are a lot of cute chicks around this place, and I get opened from time to time, but it's tough to get chicks out since I don't have a lot of time/energy and they don't either. Out of the few prospects in my class, I tried to capitalize tonight with the one that seems most promising.
Asian chick around my age (mid 30s), petite, very sweet, not the best the school has to offer but cool and has made comments about my arms/physique and we have a good friendly rapport going. She also does that thing where she'll stay in the conversation until I end it. Earlier today I mentioned I'll be in her neighborhood later having dinner and she's enthusiastic like "oh you'll probably miss getting a head start on the homework, you should come by I can help you out later." Nice. She's created perfect plausible deniability.
Later on I shoot her a text around 10. Don't hear back, figure on going home. Then as I'm getting ready to leave I get a text (!0:30) and we go back and forth. I ask for her address, but she just gives cross streets. And then picks a location a block away. I cab there and meet her and we go to a bar and have a drink.
Things are fine and friendly. I'm doing the leg touch thing a bit and eventually the conversation turns back towards school. I figure I can play "don't fuck up" game and probably get her back to her place and nail her. The bill comes and she grabs it. I've gotten the distinct impression that this chick comes from a lot of money but is low key, and peaking into her fancy wallet I see a lot of cards - amex, etc. She throws down a black card of some sort and I say I'll get the next one. She asks what I'm gonna do now and I suggest another drink at her place, but she says she wants to get up early to run and some other shit. Fuck.
So we take off and I pull out the Roosh bathroom line after walking a block with her and she says sure. "Nice", I think I'm in.
Now we've all use the famous bathroom line. I've even had it used on me by a chick I was breaking up with when she came to get her shit from my house- so that she could plead with me to not break up with her. And I knew she was fucking using it, and it still worked to get her in. As far as getting you laid...sure, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But at least it gets you in the door.
So I was really caught off guard by what happened next.
We get to her building. My impression of her as low key wealthy chick was correct. It's a top tier mega high end doorman building right on the park. Like where 1 bedrooms sell for 5 million and larger ones are 20-35 million. Rentals 16k - 50k and up- I actually looked this shit up.
As we enter the lobby she asks the doorman if I can use the bathroom. And so I get directed though a door by the doorman to the fucking doorman bathroom in the lobby, where I piss in disbelief at what just fucking went down.
Possible places I went wrong:
-Not grabbing her and kissing her on the short walk home or trying to initiate more contact- I thought I'd be in with the bathroom line and usually don't make a move until I'm somewhere private where I can escalate to sex
-maybe not leading effectively enough. I don't know her neighborhood that well but at least once we were at the bar I sauntered up and she followed
-letting the conversation go towards school, which is unsexy
-I don't/can't fucking drink, which never helps things
Things to remember, and maybe not be so hard on myself about:
-there could have been somebody else upstairs at this super high end apartment. Likely family. Maybe a dude she's about to cheat on. She's only been in this city for 3 years, and lived/studied in a few other places in the US as well as in Asia, so it very well might be a family apartment
-It's not like this is an internet date that I'll never get out again. I'll can take another shot if I want. Maybe invite her over to cook dinner together
-extremely wealthy people can be very careful about who they let into their lives, and she just might not be a chick who'll fuck after a 1 one drink date, even though we've been in school together for almost 2 months
-there are many other cute® girls at this school, and in the world. So who the fuck cares.
Still, very frustrating to go home with my dick in my hand when the signals are so obvious.
Any members out there with experience dealing with super rich Asian chicks?
Asian chick around my age (mid 30s), petite, very sweet, not the best the school has to offer but cool and has made comments about my arms/physique and we have a good friendly rapport going. She also does that thing where she'll stay in the conversation until I end it. Earlier today I mentioned I'll be in her neighborhood later having dinner and she's enthusiastic like "oh you'll probably miss getting a head start on the homework, you should come by I can help you out later." Nice. She's created perfect plausible deniability.
Later on I shoot her a text around 10. Don't hear back, figure on going home. Then as I'm getting ready to leave I get a text (!0:30) and we go back and forth. I ask for her address, but she just gives cross streets. And then picks a location a block away. I cab there and meet her and we go to a bar and have a drink.
Things are fine and friendly. I'm doing the leg touch thing a bit and eventually the conversation turns back towards school. I figure I can play "don't fuck up" game and probably get her back to her place and nail her. The bill comes and she grabs it. I've gotten the distinct impression that this chick comes from a lot of money but is low key, and peaking into her fancy wallet I see a lot of cards - amex, etc. She throws down a black card of some sort and I say I'll get the next one. She asks what I'm gonna do now and I suggest another drink at her place, but she says she wants to get up early to run and some other shit. Fuck.
So we take off and I pull out the Roosh bathroom line after walking a block with her and she says sure. "Nice", I think I'm in.
Now we've all use the famous bathroom line. I've even had it used on me by a chick I was breaking up with when she came to get her shit from my house- so that she could plead with me to not break up with her. And I knew she was fucking using it, and it still worked to get her in. As far as getting you laid...sure, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But at least it gets you in the door.
So I was really caught off guard by what happened next.
We get to her building. My impression of her as low key wealthy chick was correct. It's a top tier mega high end doorman building right on the park. Like where 1 bedrooms sell for 5 million and larger ones are 20-35 million. Rentals 16k - 50k and up- I actually looked this shit up.
As we enter the lobby she asks the doorman if I can use the bathroom. And so I get directed though a door by the doorman to the fucking doorman bathroom in the lobby, where I piss in disbelief at what just fucking went down.
Possible places I went wrong:
-Not grabbing her and kissing her on the short walk home or trying to initiate more contact- I thought I'd be in with the bathroom line and usually don't make a move until I'm somewhere private where I can escalate to sex
-maybe not leading effectively enough. I don't know her neighborhood that well but at least once we were at the bar I sauntered up and she followed
-letting the conversation go towards school, which is unsexy
-I don't/can't fucking drink, which never helps things
Things to remember, and maybe not be so hard on myself about:
-there could have been somebody else upstairs at this super high end apartment. Likely family. Maybe a dude she's about to cheat on. She's only been in this city for 3 years, and lived/studied in a few other places in the US as well as in Asia, so it very well might be a family apartment
-It's not like this is an internet date that I'll never get out again. I'll can take another shot if I want. Maybe invite her over to cook dinner together
-extremely wealthy people can be very careful about who they let into their lives, and she just might not be a chick who'll fuck after a 1 one drink date, even though we've been in school together for almost 2 months
-there are many other cute® girls at this school, and in the world. So who the fuck cares.
Still, very frustrating to go home with my dick in my hand when the signals are so obvious.
Any members out there with experience dealing with super rich Asian chicks?
Chetthebaker 路 2016-11-05 01:45:00 路 #8861
(11-05-2016 01:41 AM)Chetthebaker Wrote: Fuck. I'm 7 weeks through an intensive 3 month school thing and trying to get some new pussy going on outside of my one regular. There are a lot of cute chicks around this place, and I get opened from time to time, but it's tough to get chicks out since I don't have a lot of time/energy and they don't either. Out of the few prospects in my class, I tried to capitalize tonight with the one that seems most promising.
Asian chick around my age (mid 30s), petite, very sweet, not the best the school has to offer but cool and has made comments about my arms/physique and we have a good friendly rapport going. She also does that thing where she'll stay in the conversation until I end it. Earlier today I mentioned I'll be in her neighborhood later having dinner and she's enthusiastic like "oh you'll probably miss getting a head start on the homework, you should come by I can help you out later." Nice. She's created perfect plausible deniability.
Later on I shoot her a text around 10. Don't hear back, figure on going home. Then as I'm getting ready to leave I get a text (!0:30) and we go back and forth. I ask for her address, but she just gives cross streets. And then picks a location a block away. I cab there and meet her and we go to a bar and have a drink.
Things are fine and friendly. I'm doing the leg touch thing a bit and eventually the conversation turns back towards school. I figure I can play "don't fuck up" game and probably get her back to her place and nail her. The bill comes and she grabs it. I've gotten the distinct impression that this chick comes from a lot of money but is low key, and peaking into her fancy wallet I see a lot of cards - amex, etc. She throws down a black card of some sort and I say I'll get the next one. She asks what I'm gonna do now and I suggest another drink at her place, but she says she wants to get up early to run and some other shit. Fuck.
So we take off and I pull out the Roosh bathroom line after walking a block with her and she says sure. "Nice", I think I'm in.
Now we've all use the famous bathroom line. I've even had it used on me by a chick I was breaking up with when she came to get her shit from my house- so that she could plead with me to not break up with her. And I knew she was fucking using it, and it still worked to get her in. As far as getting you laid...sure, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But at least it gets you in the door.
So I was really caught off guard by what happened next.
We get to her building. My impression of her as low key wealthy chick was correct. It's a top tier mega high end doorman building right on the park. Like where 1 bedrooms sell for 5 million and larger ones are 20-35 million. Rentals 16k - 50k and up- I actually looked this shit up.
As we enter the lobby she asks the doorman if I can use the bathroom. And so I get directed though a door by the doorman to the fucking doorman bathroom in the lobby, where I piss in disbelief at what just fucking went down.
Possible places I went wrong:
-Not grabbing her and kissing her on the short walk home or trying to initiate more contact- I thought I'd be in with the bathroom line and usually don't make a move until I'm somewhere private where I can escalate to sex
-maybe not leading effectively enough. I don't know her neighborhood that well but at least once we were at the bar I sauntered up and she followed
-letting the conversation go towards school, which is unsexy
-I don't/can't fucking drink, which never helps things
Things to remember, and maybe not be so hard on myself about:
-there could have been somebody else upstairs at this super high end apartment. Likely family. Maybe a dude she's about to cheat on. She's only been in this city for 3 years, and lived/studied in a few other places in the US as well as in Asia, so it very well might be a family apartment
-It's not like this is an internet date that I'll never get out again. I'll can take another shot if I want. Maybe invite her over to cook dinner together
-extremely wealthy people can be very careful about who they let into their lives, and she just might not be a chick who'll fuck after a 1 one drink date, even though we've been in school together for almost 2 months
-there are many other cute® girls at this school, and in the world. So who the fuck cares.
Still, very frustrating to go home with my dick in my hand when the signals are so obvious.
Any members out there with experience dealing with super rich Asian chicks?
philosophical_recovery 路 2016-11-05 02:25:00 路 #8862
Oh man I've been feeling in the zone lately.
Chatted up a few girls tonight. One, we had a lot in common, background wise, and she was indicating a whole bunch of interest. But, I was too wishy washy on the physical attractiveness level so I didn't immediately push it.
In another case I was headed somewhere, but saw a tall, thin, cute brunette and pulled a very obvious u-turn to snatch her up. Had a mutual interest, dug in on that, got her digits.
Judged the interest of another girl a bit who I have tentative plans with.
It's like suddenly, something went *snap* in my head and I'm in a much better mood, want to talk a lot more, and can keep conversations flowing a lot better. Or I was just having a good night. Either way, in a much better mood. Tweaking my tone a bit when I say hi to random people to get a solid, positive reaction out of them.
I want to be out in public more because each time, there's more opportunities. It still helps me a lot to build up to it by listening to certain music or even talking to myself before heading out. Anything to overcome that initial inertia when starting a conversation.
Chatted up a few girls tonight. One, we had a lot in common, background wise, and she was indicating a whole bunch of interest. But, I was too wishy washy on the physical attractiveness level so I didn't immediately push it.
In another case I was headed somewhere, but saw a tall, thin, cute brunette and pulled a very obvious u-turn to snatch her up. Had a mutual interest, dug in on that, got her digits.
Judged the interest of another girl a bit who I have tentative plans with.
It's like suddenly, something went *snap* in my head and I'm in a much better mood, want to talk a lot more, and can keep conversations flowing a lot better. Or I was just having a good night. Either way, in a much better mood. Tweaking my tone a bit when I say hi to random people to get a solid, positive reaction out of them.
I want to be out in public more because each time, there's more opportunities. It still helps me a lot to build up to it by listening to certain music or even talking to myself before heading out. Anything to overcome that initial inertia when starting a conversation.
Gorgiass 路 2016-11-05 11:07:00 路 #8863
(11-04-2016 01:59 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote: It's been a full year since I banged a real stunner.
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- but every day is a real temptation to spend the money and time I do have on things, like pussy, that will make me feel better in the short term.
You have some real game and experience some of the guys might not have read about so I'd give you the benefit of the doubt here. If you're saying the girl is hot and interested, why toss the investment? Sunk cost only applies if an investment is a likely loser. I don't mind driving at all and regularly go out in a great city nearly an hour from me, even without any dates lined up, rather than mediocre cities nearby. Girl does sound like a flakey bitch but so are most hot ones in the US.
Couple hours drive and $20 in tolls for a shot a banging a smokeshow a decade younger than you vs saving $20 bucks and 1.5 hours driving to bang a Tinder Town Bicycle? Wouldn't be a hard choice for me... While driving this far and waiting around are big beta signals it really isn't hard to recover from this kind of stuff in a few minutes of face to face with a strong frame, which I'm sure you have. It's a gamble but I'd take it. It's just hard to say that now given the knowledge we learned after the fact about what a cunt she was.
Gorgiass 路 2016-11-05 11:11:00 路 #8864
Banged this Milf I've been seeing last night, she texted me saying she wanted to put her car in the garage to which I responded I didn't feel like shuffling cars around and asked why. She came over anyway and showed me an email from her ex, they split up a month ago. He's been tracking her via her phone and reading all her texts (iPhone) somehow. Wrote her a massive email I read describing how he knew she was fucking me, my name, described my house, and described where she was parking in my driveway each time she was over. I was laughing my ass off at the weakness of it all but holy shit am I glad I own a bunch of guns and have a good alarm system.
Giovonny 路 2016-11-05 12:41:00 路 #8865
(11-02-2016 09:06 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: how to rapidly build trust.
I like to use pictures and videos of Myself With:
-Cute animals.
-My little sister, grandma, mom, aunts, etc.
-Professional, trustworthy looking people in professional situations.
-Celebrities.
-Mixed groups of cool looking people.
On my phone, I keep a variety of pictures which are specifically chosen because they display my social proof, family, community involvement, etc.
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Also, I try to get them to open up emotionally and tell me some of her fears, secrets, hopes, dreams, etc.
Verbalizing these things to me means that she will have to trust me with the information.
Sometimes, I tell them a traumatic story about my past in order to get them talking about their past.
The more secretive, the better.
Sharing secrets = Trust
(11-03-2016 04:40 AM)XXL Wrote: when shit happens it's great opportunity to show and prove.
Great point!
It's easy to keep your cool when things are going well.
But, when things go bad.. That is the most important time to keep your composure and show that you can handle the situation smoothly.
Never going into panic mode = More trustworthy
philosophical_recovery 路 2016-11-05 17:34:00 路 #8866
If I've stacked my cards right I've got 2 dates lined up in a few days.
And if it doesn't work out for one or either then I can get some more!
Logistics for SNLs are prepped.
Back in the game!
And if it doesn't work out for one or either then I can get some more!
Logistics for SNLs are prepped.
Back in the game!
DRE 路 2016-11-05 20:09:00 路 #8867
(10-29-2016 06:21 PM)Beijong Wrote: Dude I know
She texted me after she left "I wish I could have stayed with you"
Dumb bish COULD have stayed with me, she left on her own as if some force beyond the grave was calling her to slut it up
Hamster logic
considering ending it. I'm in the gym doing deadlifts and she's dressed like a slut getting drunk at a college frat party out of town, and somehow I'm her life. Hamster logic never ceases to underwhelm me.
She said I couldn't come cause "you wouldn't think it was fun". I am a little too old to be surrounded by college students on MDMA with my gf
Any update on this, mang? Curious to know how this is playing out. Best of luck!
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-06 12:00:00 路 #8868
(11-04-2016 09:02 PM)BlueResolute Wrote: I'm hanging up the online game. I got far more success just going out in person than online. Online is a waste of time and is mostly for shut ins. Get those girls up in the face and they're a lot more attached.
What steps did you take to maximize your online success?
Online is the future, and now is the time to figure out how to make it work.
WIA
redbeard 路 2016-11-06 12:42:00 路 #8869
(11-06-2016 12:00 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:(11-04-2016 09:02 PM)BlueResolute Wrote: I'm hanging up the online game. I got far more success just going out in person than online. Online is a waste of time and is mostly for shut ins. Get those girls up in the face and they're a lot more attached.
What steps did you take to maximize your online success?
Online is the future, and now is the time to figure out how to make it work.
WIA
Why so sure? I see the pendulum swinging away from internet dating, but that may just be my experience.
Rhyme or Reason 路 2016-11-06 12:51:00 路 #8870
(11-06-2016 12:00 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:(11-04-2016 09:02 PM)BlueResolute Wrote: I'm hanging up the online game. I got far more success just going out in person than online. Online is a waste of time and is mostly for shut ins. Get those girls up in the face and they're a lot more attached.
What steps did you take to maximize your online success?
Online is the future, and now is the time to figure out how to make it work.
WIA
I'm just now experiencing some success with online dating. I normally would agree with BlueResolute though, approaching is better. At least that way you never get SIF'd.
Blue, pm me and I will try to help you set up a good profile.
Isaac Jordan 路 2016-11-06 16:23:00 路 #8871
(11-06-2016 12:42 PM)redbeard Wrote:(11-06-2016 12:00 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:(11-04-2016 09:02 PM)BlueResolute Wrote: I'm hanging up the online game. I got far more success just going out in person than online. Online is a waste of time and is mostly for shut ins. Get those girls up in the face and they're a lot more attached.
What steps did you take to maximize your online success?
Online is the future, and now is the time to figure out how to make it work.
WIA
Why so sure? I see the pendulum swinging away from internet dating, but that may just be my experience.
I think we need to be more specific here. "Online dating" can range from Tinder/Bumble to PoF to Match to Seeking Arrangement, with correspondingly different talent pools and potential niches to occupy.
I have an RVF buddy here in town, for example, whose age precludes him from having much success on Tinder, but he's consistently fucking 19 year-old 8s and 9s through some clever lemme-test-drive-that-car-before-I-buy-it Seeking Arrangement game.
I, meanwhile, was just about to hang up my hat on Tinder, because I was matching 7s and 8s but never getting responses from them, until I realized that 90% of those matches were occurring on Th/Fri/Sat nights between 10 pm - 2 am.
My initial strategy of matching girls and trying to get them out a day or two later to run Tuth's first date bang recipe wasn't working, because these girls really were using Tinder solely to hook up - and if I wanted access to the hotter/sluttier girls I'd have to strike while the iron's hot and meet up with them within minutes or hours of matching, not wait until the next day to try to get them out for a drink date.
My priority is still day game (for many reasons), but I wouldn't be so quick to write off online game entirely - particularly if you want access to the younger generation who have grown up attached at the hips to their smartphones and find it weird to talk to strangers.
DonnyGately 路 2016-11-06 16:56:00 路 #8872
Good luck with her, great story Winslow love the details. Always try to have a backup plan back in the city. 75 mins is way too far. My limit is like 45 mins for hot college girls and that's with 1-2 backups.
DonnyGately 路 2016-11-06 17:03:00 路 #8873
(11-04-2016 09:02 PM)BlueResolute Wrote: Online is a waste of time and is mostly for shut ins. Get those girls up in the face and they're a lot more attached.
Utter nonsense. They're additive. Of course you have to get them face to face. If you're not making girls want to meet you online, that ain't their fault. If you don't need it, then great, we're happy for you but the 12-poster saying people who score from online also are 'shut-ins' is hilarious.
The number of young hot girls who won't talk to strangers gets higher every day.
Rhyme or Reason 路 2016-11-06 17:26:00 路 #8874
(11-06-2016 05:03 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:(11-04-2016 09:02 PM)BlueResolute Wrote: Online is a waste of time and is mostly for shut ins. Get those girls up in the face and they're a lot more attached.
Utter nonsense. They're additive. Of course you have to get them face to face. If you're not making girls want to meet you online, that ain't their fault. If you don't need it, then great, we're happy for you but the 12-poster saying people who score from online also are 'shut-ins' is hilarious.
The number of young hot girls who won't talk to strangers gets higher every day.
Agreed. Over the years I have noticed a dramatic increase in the "what makes you think you have the right to approach me?" attitude, and it's only going to get worse.
Repo 路 2016-11-06 17:39:00 路 #8875
I use Bumble, Tinder, Okc, and Match and have more girls than I have time for. Granted most are in the 6-7 range, but occasionally I'll score higher. I have maybe slightly above average looks, but I dress well and workout, and my pics show off both. Online dating is definately still alive, and most popular sites/apps don't even cost money. Beats going out every night for sure. Allows me to go out once a weekend stressfree and not be bothered by if I get shut down, since I know I have other options.
crispytaco 路 2016-11-06 19:05:00 路 #8876
(11-04-2016 01:59 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote: It's very difficult to accept that I took a risk, failed, and now have to sacrifice the lifestyle I worked hard for. I know 5-6 months of no-bullshit hard work should do the trick - but every day is a real temptation to spend the money and time I do have on things, like pussy, that will make me feel better in the short term.
I know how you feel. I wish I could show you some messages from girls I was unable to meet. One of them wanted me to be BF. I know it is crazy but the girl was totally into me, texting me every day, making plans for us and she was hot. The day I arrive to town, (I wasn't there just for her), she dissapeared. 180 turn around. Good I ended with another girl.
Same story jut happened last week 2 time, simply we can't understand girls. They might be in the shark week, or got a boyfriend, ir is not in the mood, who knows.
But having multiple dates will minimize the feeling. And try to think with the upper head.
So it feels weird, but having multiple