Post: #8776

This girl and I actually actually already had "the talk" so to speak last week. She was smoking a butt outside my car before we went into a bar and we were both casually talking about our current station(s) in life. She brought up "Should we have that talk?" "What do you mean?" "What is that you're looking for right now."

I gave her the same ambiguous, non-committal, and downright honest answer I have given every girl that has entered my life in the past 3 years: I'm not looking for anything specific. If I meet someone awesome and it gets deep, serious, and long term then so be it I'm not opposed to it. If I don't and things stay super casual then its good all the same. She seemed like that answer.

I can tell she is a sweetheart deep down and like any woman will mold herself to our particular chemistry. I already see it happening, which is fine. Its for the better.

I can't decide whether or not her tune changes in the future. Maybe it won't, maybe it will. She's single and isn't shy about bringing up her exes here and there so plenty of men have gotten sick of her before me. Regardless, I'm not at all too concerned with how our future pans out right now. I'm not heavily invested in this female, but I thoroughly enjoy the times we've been having together so far and so has she. I'd like to keep that going for the time being.

Post: #8777

(10-25-2016 04:33 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  A cool ass chick though? So many pretenders.

I don't even mean same hobbies girl, or same music you like girl. The cool chick? Impossible to find. I've dated one.

She will obviously rack up numbers. Not mad at that. Some of these dead fish pretty face bitches have numbers too. If a chick sucks a good dick, she ain't learn that watching spank bang.

How to quickly screen for that kind of chick is holy grail status, because what makes a cool chick cool is hard to define.

WIA

Everyone's got their own definition of cool ass chick though.

Mine sure as hell ain't a special snowflake.

But she's enjoyable, we fuck every time we hang, and drama free so far, obvious signs, semi died hair, piercings, tattoos, but shit that's my scene, I'm surrounded by it, shows or riding. I'm fine with it, i'm looking for a good time, not wifey time. Best part was her telling me how she hates feminists who were at this girls biker rally, they ruined the fun there, and how it's all about man hating (what Milo has alluded to).

It's not hard for bitches to rack up numbers, clearly way easier for a woman too than man a man. I know of some downright raunchy bitches who are sub 5's who have a rotating door at their apartment.

It is indeed a holy grail, and finding that chill chick - odds aren't in your favor - but it can happen from time to time.

I ain't impressed yet, probably won't ever be, but if a chicks got a good vibe going, I'm game.

Post: #8778

I think just like hooking up with girls on online dating, finding a "cool chick" is all a numbers game.

You meet enough women you'll eventually find a down ass bitch. This one girl I'm fucking with these days, I don't even need to be having sex with her to have a good time. In fact, I haven't been because since she got that hysterectomy her doctor told her no sex for 6-8 weeks. We've still been hanging out a lot, and still been fooling around (and played a little "just the tip" which has been a bad idea but whatever), but some nights we don't do any of that. Some nights we just go out, have drinks, watch some live music, tell eachother racist jokes, go home, drink and laugh ourselves to sleep.

An abundance of sex can make your deeper desires and interests with women more clear. It's like a Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs sex-edition. Once you needs to have your balls drained regularly are fulfilled then what's next? Maybe quality? Already you got prettier women servicing you on the regular, what's next? Maybe variety? Okay you've different flavors of gals short hair, long hair, traditional, alternative, white, black, brown, yellow etc. Now what? All the sexual checkboxes are ticked. The top of the pyramid is self-actualization - the part where you get creative and figure out where in life you want to go when all necessary things have been met. You get experimental and you find more refined tastes in life and workout what really interests you.

Post: #8779

(10-24-2016 08:55 PM)redbeard Wrote:  This thread has lost energy since me, Stalin, and kaotic slowed down. Is everybody cuffed up or something?

Not me.

The last girl I've texted is a 20yr submissive with older man fantasies. She wants to meet tomorrow night after 9. perfect.

Have 3 regular plates from college-grad school-post grad now, and looking like 2-3 even hotter ones in the near future including the 2 I'm seeing this week, cosign sorority girls are still fun.

I wasn't getting the impression it was cuffing season until last week, when these newer girls I've met kept texting me to go out this week, or a prior plate, just graduated, wants to maybe meet up on the reg again.

2 of these new plates + 2 of the old would work perfectly. Because we're not meeting every week except for 2 of them so far, and that will change. I may end up picking just purely based on my free time as only 1 of them would I re-arrange things for.

Can't believe I just said that.

Post: #8780

I would say cuffing season begins right after Halloween. The girls have gotten their slutiness out of their system, maybe had a ONS with a guy dressed as Donald Trump. It's starting to get cold, there's only 3 weeks left until Thanksgiving, gotta think of what you'll tell Grandma when she asks "sweetie why aren't you married yet?"

Post: #8781

Cuffed up? Never! Banged a milf almost a decade older than me this weekend. Met her in the waiting room of a tire shop, talked for waaay too friggin long considering the work that needed to be done but it worked out. Number, bar that night, sucked my dick two days later, left to pick up and drop off her stepdaughter somewhere and came back to bang. Tight enough body, great seeming tits, I wasn't going to follow though at first but really wanted to play with them. They turned out to be fake The fuck, lady. I live the sticks for a reason, leave the silicone to LA.

She's a commie, I mean "democrat", but will probably vote for Trump because she trusts him more than Clinton. Make that definitely after we hang out again. I live in a swing state, wonder how many more like her there are that won't fess up to the pollsters. Gives a brotha hope.

Post: #8782

Nothing is more painful than watching a friend's shitty game.

My buddy is a self professed expert on the subject of game these days. He has read that women like alpha, outcome independent, confident guys so he basically tells girls "I'm alpha, outcome independent and confident, whats your number?" and girls go no contact on him and he complains they don't understand game.

He refuses any criticism and insists it's the girls fault.

uggggh you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Post: #8783

I'm gonna put real estate agents into the same category as future/current lawyers. Absolute ballbusting and career minded attitude. You also are unable to measure up to Daddy.

Bah hum bug.

Post: #8784

OK, let's go.

#1

At the Social Security (IKA) office, somewhere outside Athens. A client has not paid any social security to the workers who built a building and now he faces the payment and stiff fines. I was there to negotiate and draw up the budget on which the payments are going to be calculated. I know exactly what to do, but decide to hit on a stunning 50 yr old (I know, I know, please have patience with the newbie), seemingly a supervisor there. I pretend to ask for advise. Gorgeous woman, redhead, tall, no wedding ring. Smooth thread development (obviously no opener needed), lots of IOIs, friendly and relaxed (try to bring into this mood a middle aged woman public employee in Greece, and realize this is no mean feat). Conversation wanders, number closing.

An autumn romance in the making.

#2

Some distance from the SS office, in a small cafe on the side of a Town Planning office where I went for some similar business. I am the only customer. I ask the somewhat slutty, but beautiful 20 yr old for a coffee in a paper cup, then change to tea. Looks half interested, then says they have only green tea. I say to her to make it, if that's all there is. I try to develop with questions on how long the shop has been there/ she works in the place. Her interest wanes, slowly the bitch shield is erected. In the end of the conversation, or rather the monologue, looks at me like a creep.

Next.

Post: #8785

I searched the forum and only found a brief mention of this.

How and do you deal with a girl's emotional baggage, especially in different relationship settings? Do you offer girls emotional support or not?

I understand during a ONS you would never listen to or deal with a girl's baggage.

In a mini-LTR/LTR, you would (probably) be emotionally supportive.

What do you do in a FWB/FB situation? I feel like you could go both ways, either be supportive or not. But if you are, the girls might see you as a provider and will want to cuff you.

So how do you approach dealing or not dealing with a girl's emotional baggage/problems? Aside from picking girls with minimal baggage. FWBs especially will have a few red flags and daddy issues. But even if you have found an emotionally stable girl, what about when her family member is sick, a pet dies, she gets fired, etc.? Do you console her or do you generally avoid emotional conversations with her of that nature?

Post: #8786

@Angry

You're asking for a book, better to ask for example specific solution.

Overall, emotional micro management is a fool's errand. Some girls want you to do just that. They are children in adult bodies.

Game is learning to control yourself. This is exceedingly difficult.

But game is also realizing that you cannot control others. In particular their emotions.

What you can do with chicks is use your charm to offer her an alternative script.

If she's up for a job and doesn't get it, she's going to be sad. Let her be sad. Do the normal stuff to start. Then you need her to adopt a new script.

I reference this a lot, but there is an episode of Girls where Shoshana can't find a job. The guy that she is dating is successful.

She says I can't, and he says to her we don't use words like can't. The feminist reviewers howled at this, but he gave Shoshana a new script.

In a few episodes she does indeed find a new job, runs off to Japan, and ultimately leaves the guy that was actually good for her - but that is the story of Girls, over and over.

That's what the Black Philip show was about. Teaching men how to show the women in their lives other options.

Recognize that by having to even deal with this, you've put yourself in the position where you to play cleanup. Getting a chick on the right track usually kills the heat in the relationship.

So by fixing her, or getting her to fix herself, you're losing. They don't reward you for helping them.

WIA

Post: #8787

(10-25-2016 04:33 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Me and Red Pill are sounding a bit negative, i certainly don't want to come across that way.

I just expect women to be women.

One of the struggles I've had in this unending intermediate status of my game is that what Stalin found is difficult to find. You might bang another 200 chicks before you find a chick like that again. Random big titty 19 year old, or Ms. Super head you'll meet again. You can spot her, or quickly find out.

A cool ass chick though? So many pretenders.

I don't even mean same hobbies girl, or same music you like girl. The cool chick? Impossible to find. I've dated one.

She will obviously rack up numbers. Not mad at that. Some of these dead fish pretty face bitches have numbers too. If a chick sucks a good dick, she ain't learn that watching spank bang.

How to quickly screen for that kind of chick is holy grail status, because what makes a cool chick cool is hard to define.

WIA

That's a very interesting topic. I've only met a couple of really cool chicks. What they have in common:

- They can make funny jokes on their own, and love/understand your jokes
- They are almost always happy and in a positive mood
- They are low drama (at least when they are spending time with you) and easy going
- All were about 7s, don't know if this has got something to do with it

Post: #8788

7's have nothing to do with it.

*keeps shooting dead horse*

WIA

Post: #8789

(10-25-2016 04:33 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  How to quickly screen for that kind of chick is holy grail status, because what makes a cool chick cool is hard to define.

I'm of the belief that it's hard to define because it's specific to every man's personal taste.

At the top level all girls are sort of the same, sort of respond the same way to basic scenarios, and you can sort of expect them to "be women" as you say. You can come at women with a cookie-cutter out-of-the-box interaction that keeps things amicable, mutually beneficial, satisfactory, and generally sterile.

When you drill down into it, women can have more particular intricacies about them depending on their history with love, their upbringing, who they have made friends with and hang with, and whatever things have molded them throughout their life. When you pick them up you are seeing them at whatever stage they are at in life based on their portfolio. Whatever shape they are in meshes with whatever shape you are in and it's really just chaos. A roll of the dice if she is just gonna be "some other bitch" that you can only muster surface-level connection with (the top-level I mention above) or whether you're gonna really click deep down.

You have been posting about dudes being "too much red pill" in a few threads the past few days and I am on the same page with you there. I think a lot of men focus on being too stone-cold perfect; stoic alpha males who need to be the best and only deal with the best.

Men owe it to ourselves to recognize we aren't perfect and don't "have it all figured out" and honestly never will. That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to always be better, but understand you're also always going to be flawed. That's just being human.

Women aren't perfect either and it's not at all fair or realistic to expect them to be.

I also want to further emphasize something I mentioned in my 3rd paragraph of this post about you and a girl meeting eachother at a particular snapshot in eachother's lives. This is significant and must be understood. Your tastes changes. Everyone's tastes change. I can't tell you how much my tastes have changed in the past 10 years. Hell, the past 5 years. Even the past year.

This girl I'm fucking with right now - if I had met her a couple years ago, I may not have wanted to fuck with her. Maybe she would have been too wild for me, and I would have been too tame for her. Maybe right now I've ramped up the energy and recklessness in my lifestyle a bit, and she has calmed down a notch or two and we are at a sweet spot where we're on level ground. Now that we've met we are in a place where we're hooking eachother and influencing eachother. It's a beautifully random thing.

Post: #8790

I still emphasize LINUX's POV on women - he just loves women in general and likes having fun.

We over complicate things with PUA terms, hard alpha bruh (stoic as you put it) views, OD on red pills, and try to break everything down to a science.

We forget to have fun because we're too fucking worried about frame/game.

I fucking love having fun and banging women, sure most might be cookie cutter, but you'll run into a few pretty rad bitches, that's that shit I do like.

Stalin brings it up - dude we'll never be able to understand everything a bitch does or says.


I left a date on Tuesday after one drink, the bitch couldn't string sentences together and kept nervously laughing, my gut said dude she doesn't have shit to say.

Last night I had fun with this cute Latin girl, I usually don't ramble much but I did because we had alot of common shit going on. The kiss at the end was super weird but whatever, it wasn't a waste of a night.


Just have fucking fun and roll with - we keep forgetting to do that.

Post: #8791

I don't expect much from anyone much less from women. So a cool chick is someone who will give minimum drama while going along with your frame in whatever you're doing.

I don't care about drama. All I care is that the chick doesn't bring it when I'm doing anything I enjoy.

A cool chick is simply an adaptable chick. She'll have the ability to enjoy whatever the social situation. In the words of Kendrick Lamar "Bitch don't kill my vibe."

Post: #8792

I would go further than that. A cool chick will actually make a given situation more enjoyable for you.

Post: #8793

Bingo, why just have fun when you can have a fucking blast ?

Any woman who compliments my life is a win in my book.

Post: #8794

That is the right definition of cool chick. Upgrades your life, your sex, your friendships, etc.

Post: #8795

(10-27-2016 12:37 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 04:33 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  How to quickly screen for that kind of chick is holy grail status, because what makes a cool chick cool is hard to define.

I'm of the belief that it's hard to define because it's specific to every man's personal taste.

I don't disagree.

I find in practice, I have a hard time figuring out why/how my cool ass dime was cool.

Some of the stuff is easy to point at and define, but how do you capture that time when she knew to cop you a Frosty from Wendy's?

(10-27-2016 12:37 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  At the top level all girls are sort of the same, sort of respond the same way to basic scenarios, and you can sort of expect them to "be women" as you say. You can come at women with a cookie-cutter out-of-the-box interaction that keeps things amicable, mutually beneficial, satisfactory, and generally sterile.

When you drill down into it, women can have more particular intricacies about them depending on their history with love, their upbringing, who they have made friends with and hang with, and whatever things have molded them throughout their life. When you pick them up you are seeing them at whatever stage they are at in life based on their portfolio. Whatever shape they are in meshes with whatever shape you are in and it's really just chaos. A roll of the dice if she is just gonna be "some other bitch" that you can only muster surface-level connection with (the top-level I mention above) or whether you're gonna really click deep down.

You have been posting about dudes being "too much red pill" in a few threads the past few days and I am on the same page with you there. I think a lot of men focus on being too stone-cold perfect; stoic alpha males who need to be the best and only deal with the best.

Men owe it to ourselves to recognize we aren't perfect and don't "have it all figured out" and honestly never will. That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to always be better, but understand you're also always going to be flawed. That's just being human.

Women aren't perfect either and it's not at all fair or realistic to expect them to be.

I also want to further emphasize something I mentioned in my 3rd paragraph of this post about you and a girl meeting eachother at a particular snapshot in eachother's lives. This is significant and must be understood. Your tastes changes. Everyone's tastes change. I can't tell you how much my tastes have changed in the past 10 years. Hell, the past 5 years. Even the past year.

This girl I'm fucking with right now - if I had met her a couple years ago, I may not have wanted to fuck with her. Maybe she would have been too wild for me, and I would have been too tame for her. Maybe right now I've ramped up the energy and recklessness in my lifestyle a bit, and she has calmed down a notch or two and we are at a sweet spot where we're on level ground. Now that we've met we are in a place where we're hooking eachother and influencing eachother. It's a beautifully random thing.

Indeed.

One of man's issues with the dating/love/the game is that he really wants the girl to be static. Whereas she really needs/wants him to be dynamic.

But often she becomes something he doesn't want, and he stays the same - and that rather than the strong oak and the squirrel in symbiosis, you have a ship moving further and further away from the shore.

WIA

Post: #8796

(10-27-2016 04:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  That is the right definition of cool chick. Upgrades your life, your sex, your friendships, etc.

Guess that's every girl for me then(aside from the beasts I slay when it comes down to the ONS to get my rocks off)

I just dislike it as with most of what they bring to the table involves some kind of drama or bullshit that negatively effects my life.

Post: #8797

A girl has just come over to mine.

She is in the toilet. She's been there for a while. I think she's taking a dump.

Is this acceptable behaviour?

Post: #8798

You questioning whether a girl should be allowed to take a shit? Chill.

(10-27-2016 06:13 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Indeed.

One of man's issues with the dating/love/the game is that he really wants the girl to be static. Whereas she really needs/wants him to be dynamic.

But often she becomes something he doesn't want, and he stays the same - and that rather than the strong oak and the squirrel in symbiosis, you have a ship moving further and further away from the shore.

WIA

In the grand scheme of yin and yang, isn't it a woman's role to break a man lose and live a little while it's a man's job to tame the free-spirited woman? Women are able to soften up a man and let him show is emotional side, while a man is able to bring order and purpose to a woman. There's supposed to be some give and take on each side. I just think in our generation people expect too much from one another (or of themselves).

Post: #8799

#(Not counting)

Morning in the hospital for some preventive medicine. I catch sight of what seems to be a pretty doctor.
- Excuse me, can you tell me if there’s an ATM in this hospital? I don’t want to bribe a doctor, I want to withdraw some cash. (smirk)
(Turns toward me smiling and open)
- Sure, it’s at…
(No. She’s about 50 yr old. I must wear my glasses more often.)
#3
On my way to a customer, walking in a major street of a Piraeus suburb, I notice an attractive brunette cleaning the window of a café.
- Excuse me, can you tell me where’s the nearest Alpha bank branch?
(Smiles and looks interested. Fine little body, not short legged as is usually the case, great eyes and teeth, but older than I thought, abt 30 yr)
- It’s near I think, let me ask…
(Fine voice and vocabulary, obviously Greek, not some Albanian flotsam & jetsam. Asks a bearded young guy inside, probably the boss and maybe her BF. I get the info. I do my job in the bank and return after 30 mins. She’s all smiles. I order tea and lean at the bar.)
- Terrible situation at the bank, I waited for hours at a queue, and old ladies kept coming asking to bypass me blablabla (elderly rant).
- Oh yes, it happens all the time, how’s your tea, do you need something else?
(Friendly guy joins the conversation, cockblocking me. Although obviously interested, she has work to do as there are customers at the tables. Cannot build rapport to galnuc her (® the boss) due both to the situation (she’s really busy), and my obvious weakness in this aspect, as opposed to my good openers.)
#4
Night at a bar in Glyfada. The owner is a friend and has a table with bottle service for his name day (a big occasion in Greece) where I’m invited to join. Not wanting to be a cheapskate I order something to eat, buy shots for the people at the table, etc. No real talent however, couples, a moneyed lesbian with… game, and uninteresting guys. I hit on the waitress.
- Y’know, a table with bottle service should have a dedicated hostess
- Hi hi hi, you’re right. Is everything OK?
- Yes, but I was hoping the dedicated hostess would be you, not the other.
- Hi hi hi!
(Time passes without something interesting happening. The music is loud, a lot of people stare at their smartphones like retards. I start the galnuc, or rather the ialnuc.)
- Are you Italian? You look something like that.
- (Smiles) No, no, I’m Greek, how did you get this idea?
(She’s a petite brunette, so short that I, at barely 1,75m, look like a giant before her. Nevertheless, she gives me a boner.)
- You have this style… How old are you?
- I’m 24.
- I’m 51. This is an appropriate age difference.
(She laughs)
- Can I have your number?
- No, no, please. You can always find me here.
(Leave shortly thereafter; No point missing on my sleep.)
Next.

Post: #8800

Alright guys, it's about time I started stepping up my game and posting about it here. I've been complacent for too long. 3 weeks ago I ended a 6 month LTR and it's high time I started really getting back into the game. So I'm going to make myself accountable here, and share my success and failures alike.

I feel like I always go through ebbs and flows with pussy. I go on a run for a few months, bang new chicks, then I get cuffed by one for a few months. We break up. All that confidence I'd built up goes out the window and I have to start from square one again. Which is where I am now.

Last night after meeting with some RVFers I hit up a costume party. To be honest I hate wearing costumes because I don't care enough to put effort into it. Call me a square but it feels undignified. Nobody else seems to care though so I don't either.

I didn't get laid last night and only made a handful of approaches when I could have easily done more. The only real game I ran went like this:

Me, outside, smoking a cig, hot blondie comes up and asks me for one. I pause and look at her slightly askance, and ask "What are you gonna give me?"

She says "This beer" then hands me her beer. I take it, swirl it around and say "It's a little light" but i accept the trade. We start small talking a bit, honestly I can't recall the details of the conversation but she kept saying things that were kind of dumb so I was laughing at her a bit and rolled my eyes, she kept saying "whyy are you rolling your eyeees at meeeeee omg your meeean"

After a few minutes I wandered back over to my friends and shmoozed, then before leaving that blondie came up to me and kissed me on the cheek... in front of her boyfriend no less. He was a huge dude and grabbed her arm as they left.

Also I got molested / grabbed by a fat drunken indian chick.

That is all.

Possibly going to another one tonight, I'll update. I feel if i have to give you guys updates it will keep the pressure up on me to get results. Or at least give SOME kind of story here.