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rudebwoy 路 2016-11-03 12:27:00 路 #3451
(11-03-2016 10:25 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 09:36 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I am in pretty decent shape, for where I live I am above average.

I remember working out in a gym in Fort Lauderdale years back, the dudes there were next level.

Some guys had arms bigger than their waist.

rudebwoy I know what you mean. There are some monstrosities in the gym these days.

But the new crop of fitness chicks arent impressed with guys that can just bench and deadlift a lot of weight but cant run 3 miles. These girls are doing crossfit, fitness bootcamps and trail runs.

A while back I was at a barbecue on Ft Lauderdale beach. One of the girls was stuck in standstill traffic 3 miles away. She got feed up with the long wait. She parked her car and ran to the BBQ. She ran there in 24 mins!

Alot of these girls are lioness and expect the guy they end up or hook up with to be a Lion!

Hanging out with this crew has def caused me to up my fitness game.

Cross-fit attracts a lot of gals.

The movements are a bit too hardcore for my liking.

I also don't want to be embarrassed.

I think gals have figured out the guys with big arms and chest, have nothing else to offer.
DimeBait 路 2016-11-03 12:30:00 路 #3452
(11-03-2016 10:25 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  One of the girls was stuck in standstill traffic 3 miles away. She got feed up with the long wait. She parked her car and ran to the BBQ. She ran there in 24 mins!

Damn, that must've been some good ass BBQ! Banana
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-03 12:44:00 路 #3453
(11-03-2016 09:04 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  
(11-01-2016 08:37 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  With any insular community, get to the top, and the chicks want to get next to you.

You're the king and she wants to be the queen, which means claiming her publicly and forsaking all others.

That's less than ideal.

Black Phillip time!

What kind of options can you give a girl?

WIA

WIA Getting to the top of the fitness community in SFL means keeping the muscles big, the abs ripped and coming in least top 10% at the races. My friends that are in that category have girls approaching them all the time!

I am aspiring to get to that level but I will never forget that I still need game to attract, seduce and maintain relationships with High Value women.

As far as what options I can give a girl? Right now I am focusing on building my business. So unless she is willing to help me build. I will have to keep it casual, with an open door to a possible LTR down the line once I am financially comfortable.

LOL I'm the *wrong* person to talk body builder game.
I hook a chick on how I make her feel, not how I look.

From time to time I post pictures of the Incredible Hulks that are in my typical club. They get hoes, no doubt. But I get the same broads without being genetically blessed. Usually all these dudes have is "alpha" they usually have no game.

You're running into the trap that I talk about a lot.

How many drugs do you need to take to compete with these dudes? And if it was just an injection that'd be easy. You still got to eat right and do the damn workouts! And how long before that shit really kicks in? 90 days, 180 days? Two years? How long before you're truly JACK3D? How long will it be before you're the biggest dude?

In NYC, it was cats trying to get to 7 figures, when you literally have thousands of other guys in the city who have that already.

Both sets of guys were going head to head on the same plane. In that scenario, you have to keep having more and more and more.

If you want to fuck these fitness bitches, My answer is to work on her mind, not on your body.

I know Rudebwoy and Moma disagree somewhat, but in my experience

Game >>>>>> muscles, money, height, race, baldness

Anthony Bourdain probably got cheated on, and he has more fame, money, and height than any of them MMA bums.

The MMA dudes had game.

One last argument

You're trying to get her to want to fuck you, put her mind in a lustful state. A smart man focuses on her mind, and nothing else.

WIA
burncushlikewood 路 2016-11-03 15:25:00 路 #3454
(11-03-2016 12:44 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 09:04 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  
(11-01-2016 08:37 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  With any insular community, get to the top, and the chicks want to get next to you.

You're the king and she wants to be the queen, which means claiming her publicly and forsaking all others.

That's less than ideal.

Black Phillip time!

What kind of options can you give a girl?

WIA

WIA Getting to the top of the fitness community in SFL means keeping the muscles big, the abs ripped and coming in least top 10% at the races. My friends that are in that category have girls approaching them all the time!

I am aspiring to get to that level but I will never forget that I still need game to attract, seduce and maintain relationships with High Value women.

As far as what options I can give a girl? Right now I am focusing on building my business. So unless she is willing to help me build. I will have to keep it casual, with an open door to a possible LTR down the line once I am financially comfortable.

LOL I'm the *wrong* person to talk body builder game.
I hook a chick on how I make her feel, not how I look.

From time to time I post pictures of the Incredible Hulks that are in my typical club. They get hoes, no doubt. But I get the same broads without being genetically blessed. Usually all these dudes have is "alpha" they usually have no game.

You're running into the trap that I talk about a lot.

How many drugs do you need to take to compete with these dudes? And if it was just an injection that'd be easy. You still got to eat right and do the damn workouts! And how long before that shit really kicks in? 90 days, 180 days? Two years? How long before you're truly JACK3D? How long will it be before you're the biggest dude?

In NYC, it was cats trying to get to 7 figures, when you literally have thousands of other guys in the city who have that already.

Both sets of guys were going head to head on the same plane. In that scenario, you have to keep having more and more and more.

If you want to fuck these fitness bitches, My answer is to work on her mind, not on your body.

I know Rudebwoy and Moma disagree somewhat, but in my experience

Game >>>>>> muscles, money, height, race, baldness

Anthony Bourdain probably got cheated on, and he has more fame, money, and height than any of them MMA bums.

The MMA dudes had game.

One last argument

You're trying to get her to want to fuck you, put her mind in a lustful state. A smart man focuses on her mind, and nothing else.

WIA
Couldn't agree more archie. Im consistently surprised at the guys who lock down those 10s, only explanation is game
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-03 16:01:00 路 #3455
(11-03-2016 03:25 PM)burncushlikewood Wrote:  Couldn't agree more archie. Im consistently surprised at the guys who lock down those 10s, only explanation is game

Yup

You see a tall good looking dude with a dumpy chick - she has game. She's able to take advantage of his mind. She is probably not doing it consciously. She just has this deeply engrained behavior that the guy is powerless against.

Worse thing about it, he's happy to get her, but she's bored and thinks she can do better.

Most of the time, guys date/fuck at their level or below.

Girls can definitely fuck above their level, because thirst. And often times they can manipulate and hold on to a guy that's a good earner or has some other good on paper quality.

But the chick is STILL unhappy.
That surface shit does not satisfy her forever.
She always wants more.

Kristen Stewart, movie star, was married to Robert Pattinson. She cheated on him with a director from a movie she worked on. Say what you want about Robert, he was young, rich, famous, heart throb to millions of chicks - and his wife goes and fucks her boss at work.

Scottie Pippen...

Guys might be thinking about the math of all of this.
Lots of guys are so embedded in this soul sucking programming that they don't even try.

Most of the ones that do, are grateful for whatever, even though we know it's a failing strategy.

Guys that have even heard of proper game are an infinitesimal fraction of the population.

This means there really is a dearth of real men.

Yet what do these chicks do...
Do they make themselves attractive or easy to talk to, lol

Every time I get shot down, I know what's in store for that broad.

"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

WIA
jayesco 路 2016-11-03 16:22:00 路 #3456
^Wait, so how do you know if a girl is really down for us then? I would hope that at least everyone has an end game and eventually want to lock up a girl. How do we know if she's just manipulating us because we're a good earner and bring value into her life. All the brothers in this thread seem to be well put together...is that just part of the game?
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-03 16:33:00 路 #3457
It's not that she's not down for you
But that feeling fades

A chick will love your dirty drawers when she meets you. You'll be broke.

But two years later, and you're still broke, suddenly love ain't enough.

Anybody that has lived with a chick and gone through tough times has learned how conditional "undying love" truly is.

Relationship #1 you find out

Relationship #2 you try to head this off at the pass with all sorts of tricks

When you realize that trying to control this chick is taking over your life and you're better off living your own life fully, knowing that she can walk out for whatever reason - You become West Indian Archie #2

WIA
coverdoc 路 2016-11-03 16:49:00 路 #3458
(11-03-2016 04:01 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 03:25 PM)burncushlikewood Wrote:  Couldn't agree more archie. Im consistently surprised at the guys who lock down those 10s, only explanation is game

Kristen Stewart, movie star, was married to Robert Pattinson. She cheated on him with a director from a movie she worked on. Say what you want about Robert, he was young, rich, famous, heart throb to millions of chicks - and his wife goes and fucks her boss at work.

Scottie Pippen...

Guys might be thinking about the math of all of this.
Lots of guys are so embedded in this soul sucking programming that they don't even try.

WIA

Bro these post are golden!!

If you don't publish that book asap, I will compile all your postings, change my name to EastIndianArchie and sell that shit on Amazon for $24.99 plus shipping.

-CD
Huey 路 2016-11-03 16:53:00 路 #3459
(11-03-2016 04:49 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  Bro these post are golden!!

If you don't publish that book asap, I will compile all your postings, change my name to EastIndianArchie and sell that shit on Amazon for $24.99 plus shipping.

-CD
Laugh4
Topshelfhemp 路 2016-11-04 11:01:00 路 #3460
(11-03-2016 10:25 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 09:36 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I am in pretty decent shape, for where I live I am above average.

I remember working out in a gym in Fort Lauderdale years back, the dudes there were next level.

Some guys had arms bigger than their waist.

rudebwoy I know what you mean. There are some monstrosities in the gym these days.

But the new crop of fitness chicks arent impressed with guys that can just bench and deadlift a lot of weight but cant run 3 miles. These girls are doing crossfit, fitness bootcamps and trail runs.

A while back I was at a barbecue on Ft Lauderdale beach. One of the girls was stuck in standstill traffic 3 miles away. She got feed up with the long wait. She parked her car and ran to the BBQ. She ran there in 24 mins!

Alot of these girls are lioness and expect the guy they end up or hook up with to be a Lion!

Hanging out with this crew has def caused me to up my fitness game.

3 miles in 24 min thats slow as fuck..

I ran 2 miles in 12:00
without trying.. tell her keep up
but to the average human thats insane
Topshelfhemp 路 2016-11-04 11:09:00 路 #3461
(11-03-2016 04:33 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It's not that she's not down for you
But that feeling fades

A chick will love your dirty drawers when she meets you. You'll be broke.

But two years later, and you're still broke, suddenly love ain't enough.

Anybody that has lived with a chick and gone through tough times has learned how conditional "undying love" truly is.

Relationship #1 you find out

Relationship #2 you try to head this off at the pass with all sorts of tricks

When you realize that trying to control this chick is taking over your life and you're better off living your own life fully, knowing that she can walk out for whatever reason - You become West Indian Archie #2

WIA

Dude why did your dedication thread get closed?
did you ask for iit to get closed??

All I know is when you and a few others stop posting
im leaving..
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-04 14:24:00 路 #3462
(11-04-2016 11:09 AM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  Dude why did your dedication thread get closed?
did you ask for iit to get closed??

All I know is when you and a few others stop posting
im leaving..

1) it was a duplicate
2) I've got a shit ton of likes and rep points. I'm already well appreciated

I'm not here for the popularity contest.

I like the game, I like chicks, I like trying to figure out new ideas and testing.

When the game was "new", the boards were full of guys going out and trying new stuff, testing old assumptions. Now that game is old hat, new guys are gravitating back to stuff that didn't work.

Hopefully, cats that like my stuff, don't just like it because they like reading it.

When I say cats need to chill on getting freaky with a chick in public, when you first meet, it's not cause i haven't done it. It's because I have. And chick will leave you holding your dick on the dance floor.

When I say money is not going to do it, it's not because I want you guys to be broke. Far from it. It's just that having the money doesn't do it. Spending it in them, doesn't do it. Working for it, takes you out of the game. Few guys making real money work normal hours. Most are killing themselves with 100 hours weeks. Ask me how I know.

I remember hitting this one spot in the German. Got it valet parked. Bitches saw me. Absolutely nothing in terms of the pull.

I was already five years into fucking chicks, and I just knew now that my career was on point, i could just let that work for me.

Nope. I got more male attention than female attention. "Yeah Bro, you should have gotten the 6 speed 6 cylinder, not the 8 automatic."

I started to park my shit away from the crowd, and went back to the stuff I'd learned.

My boy had a Porsche. Twice the cost of my ride. Nada. He leaned harder on his money, and he only dealt with sisters.

Surely you think, given all the propaganda we hear about black women are into that shit....He definitely found gold diggers. Things have not turned out well for him.

I don't need the props. What I want is for all of us to try each other's stuff, and update the mindset, philosophy, strategy, techniques, tactics, and tricks. Of the game, of money, of life. That's far more valuable than all the internet fame I have.

WIA
Topshelfhemp 路 2016-11-06 15:55:00 路 #3463
(11-04-2016 02:24 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(11-04-2016 11:09 AM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  Dude why did your dedication thread get closed?
did you ask for iit to get closed??

All I know is when you and a few others stop posting
im leaving..

1) it was a duplicate
2) I've got a shit ton of likes and rep points. I'm already well appreciated

I'm not here for the popularity contest.

I like the game, I like chicks, I like trying to figure out new ideas and testing.

When the game was "new", the boards were full of guys going out and trying new stuff, testing old assumptions. Now that game is old hat, new guys are gravitating back to stuff that didn't work.

Hopefully, cats that like my stuff, don't just like it because they like reading it.

When I say cats need to chill on getting freaky with a chick in public, when you first meet, it's not cause i haven't done it. It's because I have. And chick will leave you holding your dick on the dance floor.

When I say money is not going to do it, it's not because I want you guys to be broke. Far from it. It's just that having the money doesn't do it. Spending it in them, doesn't do it. Working for it, takes you out of the game. Few guys making real money work normal hours. Most are killing themselves with 100 hours weeks. Ask me how I know.

I remember hitting this one spot in the German. Got it valet parked. Bitches saw me. Absolutely nothing in terms of the pull.

I was already five years into fucking chicks, and I just knew now that my career was on point, i could just let that work for me.

Nope. I got more male attention than female attention. "Yeah Bro, you should have gotten the 6 speed 6 cylinder, not the 8 automatic."

I started to park my shit away from the crowd, and went back to the stuff I'd learned.

My boy had a Porsche. Twice the cost of my ride. Nada. He leaned harder on his money, and he only dealt with sisters.

Surely you think, given all the propaganda we hear about black women are into that shit....He definitely found gold diggers. Things have not turned out well for him.

I don't need the props. What I want is for all of us to try each other's stuff, and update the mindset, philosophy, strategy, techniques, tactics, and tricks. Of the game, of money, of life. That's far more valuable than all the internet fame I have.

WIA

I hear ya. i like money for me though
I gotta get that wraith man...

I need money for my friends and I
hahaha
Giovonny 路 2016-11-08 14:01:00 路 #3464
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I love it!

That is my style!

I want people to think that I came from another fucking universe!

--

At a mostly black party, I would get a lot of attention

At a mostly white party, I would get a lot of attention.

Would be fun either way for me.

--

(10-30-2016 10:09 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  if white guy Trump supporter doesn't like a Jay Z reference in what I write - fuck him.

Ironically,

Many (younger) Trump supporters listen to hip hop!

70% of rap albums are purchased by white kids.

Football and basketball arenas are filled with white fans.

The average white american spends his weekend obsessing over black athletes!


--

I see it everyday...

Whites feel peer pressure to support Trump, but, privately.. They are listening to Jay-Z and wearing a Lebron jersey..

Racism is a complex thing...

In large groups, "groupthink" often takes over..

Individually, most people are decent.

--

I know whites who use racist language because their parents and grandparents did..

But, on Saturday night, they text me -- "Gio, lets go see Gucci Mane"

I've literally seen young people put a Trump sign in front of their parents house and then turn around and try to "act black".

--

*(I am not black)*
Ogunn 路 2016-11-08 14:24:00 路 #3465
(11-04-2016 11:01 AM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 10:25 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 09:36 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I am in pretty decent shape, for where I live I am above average.

I remember working out in a gym in Fort Lauderdale years back, the dudes there were next level.

Some guys had arms bigger than their waist.

rudebwoy I know what you mean. There are some monstrosities in the gym these days.

But the new crop of fitness chicks arent impressed with guys that can just bench and deadlift a lot of weight but cant run 3 miles. These girls are doing crossfit, fitness bootcamps and trail runs.

A while back I was at a barbecue on Ft Lauderdale beach. One of the girls was stuck in standstill traffic 3 miles away. She got feed up with the long wait. She parked her car and ran to the BBQ. She ran there in 24 mins!

Alot of these girls are lioness and expect the guy they end up or hook up with to be a Lion!

Hanging out with this crew has def caused me to up my fitness game.

3 miles in 24 min thats slow as fuck..

I ran 2 miles in 12:00
without trying.. tell her keep up
but to the average human thats insane

You are correct from a pro\semi pro standpoint that is slow. But keep in mind.

A) She is female
B) She is over 30
C) This was unplanned and in 85F heat
D) She is not just a runner. Her strength to weight ratio would probably surprise you.
DimeBait 路 2016-11-09 11:33:00 路 #3466
RudeBwoy, so what's the immigration process like relocating Canada?
Huey 路 2016-11-09 12:16:00 路 #3467
(11-09-2016 11:33 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  RudeBwoy, so what's the immigration process like relocating Canada?
Laugh3
rudebwoy 路 2016-11-09 13:42:00 路 #3468
(11-09-2016 11:33 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  RudeBwoy, so what's the immigration process like relocating Canada?

http://www.cic.gc.ca - Canadian immigration site.

Apparently it crashed last night, the server could not handle the traffic.

I don't think this is a good country for a brotha to move too, life is too short to be miserable.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-11-09 14:28:00 路 #3469
My short list
- Jamaica/English speaking Caribbean
- Ghana
- Nigeria
- DR
- Brazil
- Colombia
- Germany is the wildcard

The podcast is even more vital now.

WIA
DimeBait 路 2016-11-09 14:46:00 路 #3470
Ideally, I'd like to be somewhere English speaking and the US dollar goes further.
I gotta work on my residual and intellectual property income streams. That, and the ability to work remotely should have a brother sitting good.
jayesco 路 2016-11-09 15:14:00 路 #3471
Australia is at the top of my list. My LTR just returned there from her trip over here. I'm not going anywhere without having some type of work lined up first. I've learned my lesson about quitting a job before finding a new one.
thedarkknight 路 2016-11-09 19:13:00 路 #3472
I'm just gonna shoot from the hip:

Why would a black man stay in America?

(1) Your woman has revolted
(2) A growing Hispanic community that wants nothing to do with you and wants to play the role of White America's favourite minority
(3) A police force that hates you
(4) You own people shoot you
(5) Harmful stereotypes that have been around for centuries that are alive and kicking today in 2016

And these all applied before a guy, who got 8 percent of your vote, won the election and your congress. I hate to say this but I would strongly suggest you look for a plan B because you guys voted for the opposite (overwhelmingly) and your voices were not heard. Despite being in that country for centuries, shedding blood for their wars, fertilizing the soil with the sweat of your ancestors, various protests and riots: your voices were completely ignored.

And the worse part is, it WILL only get worse.
kirdiesel 路 2016-11-09 19:49:00 路 #3473
(11-09-2016 07:13 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  I'm just gonna shoot from the hip:

Why would a black man stay in America?

(1) Your woman has revolted
(2) A growing Hispanic community that wants nothing to do with you and wants to play the role of White America's favourite minority
(3) A police force that hates you
(4) You own people shoot you
(5) Harmful stereotypes that have been around for centuries that are alive and kicking today in 2016

And these all applied before a guy, who got 8 percent of your vote, won the election and your congress. I hate to say this but I would strongly suggest you look for a plan B because you guys voted for the opposite (overwhelmingly) and your voices were not heard. Despite being in that country for centuries, shedding blood for their wars, fertilizing the soil with the sweat of your ancestors, various protests and riots: your voices were completely ignored.

And the worse part is, it WILL only get worse.

I was just thinking about this today as well... I'm glad I left 6 years ago and I realized recently odds are slim that I'm moving back.

In no particular order

1. More opportunity - I feel as a black man here I have more opportunity career wise. When people know you.. you are seen as "an American" and not as a black guy. Race won't be the thing holding you back from jobs and whatnot.

2. Dating - I feel like I had so much more opportunity here with women and from the recent Croatia thread I don't think I need to dig deeper into that explanation.

3. Cost of Living - I can live in the middle of Europe for a reasonable price

4. Health Insurance - Medical is cheaper and you dont have to worry about getting sick and losing everything you have.

5. No hood niggas - I don't miss that hood nigga mentality and ghetto black people judging you because you are "different" and/or trying to drag you down with them.

6. Police - I have been harassed by police in the US but NEVER here. NOT ONCE in 6 years.


Of course there are drawbacks I haven't mention but as soon as I have the energy and desire to write up my huge 6 years in Germany thread ill drop all the info.

I am suffering from homesickness due to cultural differences but other than that life isn't too bad here for an American black guy.
DMario 路 2016-11-09 20:11:00 路 #3474
How would you guys step back and analyze your game if you can pull 6's with absolutely no problem, but have trouble pulling 7's and beyond? I been banging at least one 6 a week for almost the last two months with extreme ease, but every time I approach a 7 or higher I get initial interest but it never matures any further.
kirdiesel 路 2016-11-09 20:38:00 路 #3475
(11-09-2016 08:11 PM)DMario Wrote:  How would you guys step back and analyze your game if you can pull 6's with absolutely no problem, but have trouble pulling 7's and beyond? I been banging at least one 6 a week for almost the last two months with extreme ease, but every time I approach a 7 or higher I get initial interest but it never matures any further.

This is also the last hurdle of game I have yet to overcome as well.

I have cracked the 8+ barrier a few times but very inconsistently.

Some observations:

-It required showing interest but very very little. Really making her qualify herself to you. That she is worth your time.

-A frame of STEEL.. You can't come off as being affected by any shit tests or her beauty. I feel like these girls are masters of the social universe and they can read you in a second if you slip.

-Be the leader and the boss. Take charge of situation and say whats going to happen next. Don't let her lead not much if at all.

These are some of the strategies that have worked for me and also places that im working on improving.
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