(06-23-2016 10:50 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  I prefer predominately black clubs. As long as there is good male/(attractive female) ratio, I never paid attention to the competition. As a matter of fact, I don't even see them as competition, more like colleagues or cohorts.
I don't like YT clubs because you have to play the guessing game on whether a chick is down with the swirl.

I respectfully don't agree with your approach. In my experience if you go to an all black club you tend to meet white girls who are specifically searching for brothers and these also tend to be the lowest level ones with fetishes and what not.

Second.... You never never never play the guessing game whether she likes black guys or not. You just move forward... I have been able to crack women who weren't interested in brothers in the first place but you just might be the one with the right game to pull it off.

(06-23-2016 01:22 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Humble black chicks at a mixed spot might be only down with the swirl, lol.

"Sorry my brother, I'm here for Chet!"

This is also the experience I have had... If you find a black woman in those mixed spots or all white spots they generally arent looking for black men.

To be fair, at a mixed event white girls ain't checking for black guys either.

Disagree on the white girls at black events here in the States. Maybe back in the day, but no longer.

Your typical Sara Jay/Jada Stevens is open to black guys, but like every woman she wants the best she can get. Kelly Divine ain't getting stuck by jheri curl Jerome, it's usually some muscle bound D-Boy looking dude.

The low self esteem, usually shaped like a pickle barrel, white chick that will suck and fuck anything is much more related to her low self esteem. You'll find that chick at a majority white club getting ignored.

"How come only black guys like me?"

Lol

Double.

Trying to hit alternate day time venues. Farmers markets and street fairs.

How about you guys?

WIA

Anything that gets you out of the house is a good use of time. Unfortunately, where I'm at, there is no coming outside during the day for at least the next three months, lol

There is a taste of Toronto festival tomorrow. My mind says I should go but my body will probably say otherwise.

Is a foodie event good for chicks?

There is also the Beer/Wine festival coming up.

I'd be all over taste, but the beer and will be better.

Taste will be family friendly. Expect the fine chicks to be with their boyfriends.

Beer will be family unfriendly. So roving bands of liquored up career women.

WIA

(06-23-2016 04:41 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  There is a taste of Toronto festival tomorrow. My mind says I should go but my body will probably say otherwise.

Is a foodie event good for chicks?

There is also the Beer/Wine festival coming up.

Do it, fam. You can find some new lizards there. Try and chat to lizards who just moved to Toronto..before they have been poisoned.

(06-23-2016 03:32 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  .

Something to consider thinking about going to a black guy only travel forum.

Naw it wouldn't be a black guy only forum. But no one here would tolerate any of that alt-right destructive chat.

Plus I'd still participate here. I'm like on six forums as it is.

WIA

(06-23-2016 04:15 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Disagree on the white girls at black events here in the States. Maybe back in the day, but no longer.

I haven't been to an all black party in years so maybe times have changed. I'll think about visiting one when im back stateside next week.

I am strongly leaning to a private newsletter with some heavy dope information.

Probably a small subscription fee, to deter guys who aren't serious.

The problem with a forum, if I say the sky is blue. Someone will complain and say the opposite.

(06-23-2016 03:32 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  Dimebait...

Forums that are heavily skewered towards one race over another tend to bring some of the lowest, least adventurous, least enterprising people. In my life, those people I've come across who cling onto their ethnic identity as the end all be all, tend to bring little else to the table. This is true for all people of all races.

This 100%. I touched on this theme in a past post, but you explained it better than I did.

(06-23-2016 04:15 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Double.

Trying to hit alternate day time venues. Farmers markets and street fairs.

How about you guys?

WIA

I think these venues are going to be my bread and butter during my daytime adventures in NYC. People are all in one spot, not walking so fast, not too occupied, and they are more in the mood to talk and be talked to.

The only cons are I'm still not so comfortable telling a girl "you're cute" in close quarters with many other ears listening, and I feel the need to eject and return a few minutes later after talking to two or more girls at the same event.

The bigger the event, the more girls you can approach without ever seeing the same one twice, obviously.

However, if she sees you talking to another girl, this could potentially work in your favor by making her jealous and even more interested in you. If she thinks the girl you're talking to is more attractive than her, it might work even better. This happened to me a few months ago. I discuss it here.

(06-23-2016 03:32 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  Dimebait...

Anabasis' banning has some folks people spooked, I can see why there's a desire to jump ship to a more black centred forum, but I don't agree with it (even though I would potentially still check it out).

For one Anabasis' was a solid poster, one of the best on the forum, but flirting with the alt-right doesn't mean they'll like or respect you, they still consider blacks 'dumb niggers' (quite frankly, that's more or less the coded words by another member that Anabasis replied to that got him banned). Calling out white nationalists on a forum with ample number of sympathizers is always tricky business (yet, 3 clicks away from the anti black/immigrant dog whistling that exists in the Everything Else and Politics section, this thread exists, only on the RVF!).

There's the desire to find safe spaces, an old SJW trick that actually isn't an SJW trick (America's past laws proved that). That's not the way to do it - although I admit, we all revel in occasional conflict. I have WNs at work, and I take the occasional guilty pleasure in using their own tactics against them if the conversation comes up, without ever explicitly mentioning race, victim hood, and all the other good stuff that comes with the loaded topic. It's game, but on a different level. How quickly can you dance without stepping on each other's shoes?

You have to work with these guys at the office or at the shop, you probably visit similar restaurants, cross paths at the same expos, theme parks, movie theaters, and all kinds of events. You might as well converse on line because you're already doing it in real life, sometimes you're not even realizing it.

We have lots of resources for men of colour on this very forum. And we have resources for all men all around. If the RVF ever became explicitly racist, and started closing threads like these, then a migration to something else may not be a bad idea, but a black only forum is a step backwards - it will become an echo chamber. Just as many other game sites have turned into.

In the early 2000s, blacks weren't really let into Edmonton and Calgary's clubs in significant numbers - black face control was the order of the day regardless of the way one dressed. As the years passed more black and ethnic clubs have opened. What's intriguing is I can find just as many white girls in these clubs as I can find in a country bar in this town. The club promoters created an atmosphere that essentially has a welcoming vibe for all people. They face control riff-raff. Now these clubs are large, multi-ethnic, the women are smoke-shows, and are down with both brothers and others. I'm sure American cities have plenty of these clubs (maybe not Kentucky or Mississippi). Unfortunately there is also clubs that resemble something out of WSHH.

This is how I view race centric forums. I doubt a large black forum will attract the best men, on the contrary. Forums that are heavily skewered towards one race over another tend to bring some of the lowest, least adventurous, least enterprising people. In my life, those people I've come across who cling onto their ethnic identity as the end all be all, tend to bring little else to the table. This is true for all people of all races.

Something to consider thinking about going to a black guy only travel forum.

Great post!

I would not be interested in a black only forum, Moma and I want to evolve our podcast. It is looking like a newsletter would work best for us, Moma has insights which I feel he has expert knowledge on and I have some areas that I have good knowledge on as well.

We are not trying to emulate RVF or take away from it, we are not trying to be another Mcqueen or a MikeCF.

It is funny you mentioned about Edmonton/Calgary back in the day and how they prohibited black guys from entering clubs. This is a common complaint that we face all over the world, Germany, Russia, England to name a few.

My good friend's older brother spent a lot of time out in Calgary back in the day, he was turning out girls. His stories are simply incredible, some of them involve a former mayor's daughter. The mayor had to pay off a few brothas to leave town and leave his daughter alone. This is the sort of stuff Archie would have a good breakdown for.

It always amazes me how some brothas get around certain obstacles, I have a tremendous respect for African guys. I have met them and see them in every corner of the globe, yet they always find girls who are down.

I have a good friend from Senegal who lives in Europe, he has mad game. I mentioned how he does well with German chicks in Ibiza, I have no doubt he would duplicate the same success in Germany.
Last year he even met two young girls in Milan, they followed him to Ibiza and he had the time of his life with both of them.

This would be the type of information that would be on a newsletter, with pictures of course.

We can talk about Fashion, Travel, Health, Politics, Location independent lifestyle, Game, Career options, best tools for learning a foreign language, Gym or anything you wish to discuss.

We tend to avoid topics like Religion and Politics.

Some people don't realize that ALL politicians are controlled and to get to the level of a party leader, you have signed your name in blood.

When you have been around as long as me, you realize these things never change. The little man always loses.

I wouldn't want a black centered forum. if RVF had been black-centered I might not have met so many awesome non-black guys. That said, I wouldn't mind participating in such a forum if it were to come into fruition; however, that would not be to the exclusion of the non-black forums I participate in. I'm very much interested in how the game is for others as well. Sometimes shit that works for other guys in some countries can be taken, modified and made to work for black men. Just takes some creativity and a bit of thought and you can tap into some funny niches that you wouldn't expect.

I've met too many awesome guys of other colours who helped build this forum up and we'd lose that if we decided to make a black-centered forum. Not to mention, I don't think most of us have any problems with the alt-right crowd. We tend to stay out of those threads. Personally, the only thing there waiting for me is an argument or a ban (as was the case for Anabasis[rest in peace, homie.])

It's also nice when a white/asian/other dude drops into this thread and throws his own thoughts down on game options for black men abroad. Sometimes we don't know what we don't know and it takes an outsider to show us that.

^^^
Agree with this and similar sentiments. And yes, I'm not black (SE-Asian-American).

What I would add is that it's good to see ideas that conflict and challenge your own. Pretty sure at least some of us, including myself, initially found Game as a conflict and challenge to our "blue-pill" upbringing.

Not that you have to accept every idea you come across, of course.

I've always appreciated your insights into these threads, 262. Your relocation thread is really inspiring as well. Reading it made me even more committed to earning some "fuck you" money. Or at the very least, develop a "fuck you" business.

I'm a believer in that the more diverse your experiences are, the more you learn and grow as a person. I would be missing out on great info if I only posted on a black-only forum.

This isn't even the only game-centric forum I'm a member of.

Still trying to figure out a situation, maybe someone here can help shed light.

This past weekend I'm out trying night game for the first time sober. Quick back story I'm 23, black, and living in Mexico City. So I'm in a club and I approach the hottest girl I see, she speaks little English but my Spanish is okay enough to make it work. She is sober as well because she is driving. We talk for about 10 minutes then I go for the number close as I have to work the next morning. Initially she tells me her phone has been stolen, but gives me her number because "she will get a new phone tomorrow". I pretty much figured she was bullshitting. I decided to stay and see where I could go with this, as my roommates had her friends down to come back to our places. While still in the club she pulls out her phone and I call her out on it. She admits she was lying.

Her and her friends come back to our place. We listen to Reggaeton for a bit, and eventually I get her up to my room. With no resistance, as soon as she gets in my room she pulls her clothes off and we fuck. Before she leaves we make plans to meet later in the week.

So Yesterday she comes to my house. The attitude is entirely different than the first night we fucked. Now I can get nothing more than a hug, and she's telling me she wants to get to know me better.

Not sure if this girl is genuine, or just full of shit.

There are more travel forums like this?

Other than naughtynomad?

^happierabroad is one.

(06-24-2016 08:11 AM)DMario Wrote:  Still trying to figure out a situation, maybe someone here can help shed light.

This past weekend I'm out trying night game for the first time sober. Quick back story I'm 23, black, and living in Mexico City. So I'm in a club and I approach the hottest girl I see, she speaks little English but my Spanish is okay enough to make it work. She is sober as well because she is driving. We talk for about 10 minutes then I go for the number close as I have to work the next morning. Initially she tells me her phone has been stolen, but gives me her number because "she will get a new phone tomorrow". I pretty much figured she was bullshitting. I decided to stay and see where I could go with this, as my roommates had her friends down to come back to our places. While still in the club she pulls out her phone and I call her out on it. She admits she was lying.

Her and her friends come back to our place. We listen to Reggaeton for a bit, and eventually I get her up to my room. With no resistance, as soon as she gets in my room she pulls her clothes off and we fuck. Before she leaves we make plans to meet later in the week.

So Yesterday she comes to my house. The attitude is entirely different than the first night we fucked. Now I can get nothing more than a hug, and she's telling me she wants to get to know me better.

Not sure if this girl is genuine, or just full of shit.

Who knows what her logic could be and since you already banged her it really shouldn't matter much. See where it goes, she might turn into a cool FB or even an opportunity to expand your social circle. Some of my best female friends were chicks I banged first and became friends later. Great social proof for subsequent outings.

Are you purposefully leading a sober lifestyle? I've been going out more lately, completely sober, and it's a whole new experience to be completely in control of your senses and environment while socializing.

On another note. Wussup with the UK leaving the EU? I heard the pound is dropping, is now the time to book a trip to the UK?

Good thing I'm leaving for London today!!

(06-24-2016 10:54 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  On another note. Wussup with the UK leaving the EU? I heard the pound is dropping, is now the time to book a trip to the UK?

BRO, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS TODAY.

We should do a meet up at the North Hampton Carnival, lol. Get me one of these



or something like this



Co-Worker was gonna bet on it, and I was like HOW? I think it was 16:1 that the UK would remain. I would have put a couple G's on that.

I added London to my "update me on ticket prices".

If it hits real rock bottom, might have to get my Savile Row on.



^Ozwald Boateng. Plus Maurice Sedwell, another Black man, is also on the row as well.

WIA

If we set up a meet in the UK, I'm down as well. I'm right across the English Channel.

(06-23-2016 03:51 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(06-23-2016 01:22 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Humble black chicks at a mixed spot might be only down with the swirl, lol.

"Sorry my brother, I'm here for Chet!"

This is also the experience I have had... If you find a black woman in those mixed spots or all white spots they generally arent looking for black men.

Maybe its me, but I rarely see any black women in majority white night spots. I see a lot of black men, but no black women. The ratio of black men to women in these spots is like 10:1 while for white people it might be 2:1. I think its because more black men are down for white girls than black women are for white men. I see a lot of black men either hitting on white girls or with them (in DC area). Some of them are fat, but quite a few of the women are hot.