(02-24-2016 11:17 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I actually don't know the answers, but have been searching.

Each country is its own economic lab.

On a smaller level, here in the States, there are places like Alabama and Mississippi that are dirt poor, New Mexico and lots of Appalachia are very close to the same level of poverty.

And it's been that way for decades. It's not the recent productivity gains trickling up to the 1% that the internet/computer age.

Individuals can be poor, but how do you explain deep poverty in rich countries.

It's not even the lack of money, lack of jobs, but no one ever had interest in creating something in those areas?

Rule of law
Low corruption
General physical infrastructure

All the things the economists and politicians say are necessary for progress, yet none happens...

Bigger questions

I'd say it's a lack of a hustler's mentality. You go to certain places in the third world and guys are trying to whatever they can to make a quick buck. Corruption has nothing to do with it as in some of those countries the corrupt parts of them are all trying to make a quick buck too.

I'd say it has more to do with the mentality of the area you're in and the amount of red tape for entry level shit.

WIA if you haven't already, you've got to read a book by John Perkins called the confessions of an economic hitman. It is an eye opener on why countries which are blessed with natural resources end up being some of the poorest in the world.

I've driven all over the country, and you're more likely to see somebody selling barbecue, beef jerky, folk art, going through them non interstate highways than you do in the cities.

Most of the developing world is full of the hustler mentality. That's why when they get here, they look at Americans as a bunch of sheep. Not all immigrants, but if you don't speak English, better start your own business.

But how come bargaining cultures don't prosper at home?

I'm sure you've had this experience

You jump into a cab/Uber, and the cabbie is a architect or engineer in his home but can't do a thing with his degree here. STEM!

He's hustling with Uber and Lyft, maybe trying internet marketing on his spare time. And he lives a better *economic* life here...

I hear what you guys are saying, but I feel like there are unseen factors at work.

@Mr. Mandingo

I tried reading that book, couldn't get past the first chapter.

I think he's talking about what we call domestically "regulatory capture". Corruption at the highest levels of government. If I recall, there were both corporate and military interests involved in destroying domestic industries.

Without all the cloak and dagger, this is the story oh Haiti, the world refusing to trade with them, and Cuba being embargoed. After decades of lack of funds, nothing to trade with the outside world, they only have excess agriculture to exchange for tractors.

By the time the sugarcane harvester is paid for, it's obsolete, or the competitors are using a more efficient model.

To some extent the internet might change the balance of power, but intellectual capital translates to intellectual property which is easily pirated.



WIA

(02-24-2016 11:50 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I've driven all over the country, and you're more likely to see somebody selling barbecue, beef jerky, folk art, going through them non interstate highways than you do in the cities.

Most of the developing world is full of the hustler mentality. That's why when they get here, they look at Americans as a bunch of sheep. Not all immigrants, but if you don't speak English, better start your own business.

But how come bargaining cultures don't prosper at home?

I'm sure you've had this experience

You jump into a cab/Uber, and the cabbie is a architect or engineer in his home but can't do a thing with his degree here. STEM!

He's hustling with Uber and Lyft, maybe trying internet marketing on his spare time. And he lives a better *economic* life here...

I hear what you guys are saying, but I feel like there are unseen factors at work.

That's sort of the more European and Western ideal of high quality sellers and only buying from those that can vouch for that quality. It's like the stamp of approval the East India Trading Company had on their goods.

You were getting the quality with 100% guarantee that it wasn't a forgery. Places like Arabia, Southeast Asia, or India/China/Africa(where it was made or found in the case of spices, silk, and ivory respectably) it was very likely an unknown merchant was selling the exact same quality good the big guys were selling with a lower price as it wasn't hard heading East to pick it up. Granted the rich would always get quality as money as of no object, but the little guy would be willing to gamble on the lower price for possible quality good.

Europeans always had a scarcity of "quality" goods up until the Age of Exploration with their navies and the Industrial Revolution boom. This did create a hustler's mentality, but it was stamped out as a lot of these big companies wanted to keep their government sponsored monopolies while the government subsidized a bit to ensure prices stayed low.

It's all reminiscent of that history.

The biggest hustlers have always been the Imperialists.

Get a product for nothing and sell it for a fortune, anyone makes a noise then they simply disappear.

Someone used the Iphone as an example, ever look at the factory where they make them? They have suicide nets surrounding them, I will let you figure out why.

This article talks about the oil game.

https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/...-oil-game/

(02-24-2016 12:56 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  The biggest hustlers have always been the Imperialists.

Get a product for nothing and sell it for a fortune, anyone makes a noise then they simply disappear.

Someone used the Iphone as an example, ever look at the factory where they make them? They have suicide nets surrounding them, I will let you figure out why.

This article talks about the oil game.

https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/...-oil-game/

It's always the initial investors like those who backed/formed the East India Tea Company, the first American Casinos, or Rockefeller's company. Those guys made their fortune

There's alot of reasons to be bearish on Nigeria becoming a "superpower" anytime soon. First of all, the talk of GDP (the basis by which Nigeria earns this distinction) is largely an exercise of vanity for those in power, as it allows them to ignore factors not accounted for in GDP like environmental and social sustainability, health, life expectancy, justice, freedom of choice, and income distribution as a few examples. Nigeria does not really come close outperforming sub-Saharan African in alot of these measures, much less similar sized economies. For example, no one would say that Nigeria has infrastructure on par with South Africa, as it pertains to bedrock apparatuses like power and roads. Basically, GDP says little or nothing about the essential fabric of society. I've heard similar castigations levied by the more pessimistic lot of Nigerians I have grow up with, so these concerns are very real.

Also, while Nigeria is now recognized as the largest economy in Africa, it is also among the leaders on the continent in terms of wealth evaporation. That includes such things as capital outflows into foreign accounts, depletion/degeneration of arable land, and depletion of natural resources. This has been in addition to draconian policies instituted in recent times by the World Bank and IMF like the increase in price of petrol, removal of subsidies on other petroleum products and general outrage over the high poverty rate and poor treatment of government, which have caused civil unrest compounding the increasingly hazardous extremist movements in parts of the country

Overall, in order for countries like Nigeria to realize their potential they will need to figure out a way to integrate their youth into the economy and create policies that allow their colossal diaspora to invest in things other than remittances to their relatives. This combined with fixing the issues above would truly make it an immutable force on the world stage.

From the article I linked above, talks about the Nigeria oil situation.

In Nigeria Royal Dutch/Shell and Chevron Texaco dominate the oil industry, where they produce the benchmark Bonny Light crude used in aviation fuels and other high-grade products. Recent political violence has killed over 10,000 people. Big Oil’s Nigerian Delta operations have been at the epicenter of the violence.

On November 10, 1995 Nigerian playwright Ken Saro-Wiwa and eight other protest leaders were hung by the military junta of General Soni Abacha, another in a line of Four Horsemen puppets who have ruled the country. Abacha’s regime had given Shell the green light to drill on Ogoni tribal lands, resulting in protests by a half-million Ogoni people who said Shell had badly polluted both their land and their water.

Saro-Wiwa’s family sued Shell for complicity in his death, which gained international attention. The lawsuit accused Shell of wrongful death, torture, summary execution and arbitrary arrest and detention. Saro-Wiwa’s brother, a plaintiff in the suit, stated, “This is a classic case of the methods used by multinationals against those who challenge them. Taking Shell to court is one of many nonviolent methods of struggle against the company’s role in the human rights and environmental degradation of Ogoni”. [268]

Only a month after the hangings, Shell defiantly announced plans to embark on a $3.8 billion natural gas project in Nigeria in tandem with the Nigerian junta, the French Total and the Italian Agip. Nigerian’s were outraged. On March 4, 1997 protestors took 127 Shell employees prisoner, burned and looted Shell gas stations and occupied its oil platforms. Shell was forced to cut back production in Nigeria and came under increased scrutiny from human rights groups around the world. [269]

In July 2002 a group of Nigerian women took Chevron Texaco employees hostage and occupied its facilities. A day later the company’s Lagos headquarters was struck by lightning. The revolt against Big Oil in Nigeria continues.

Gentlemen,
First and foremost, let me introduce myself as a loooong time lurker, first time poster. I hail from the old mASF forums and its subsequent successor and found this place, this topic, only when searching for issues specifically and uniquely related to US

That said, I couldn't help but chime in after someone opined that he couldn't help but wonder if our current situations in the global economy somehow stem from inherent flaws among US. Though I understand it could seem that way, on its face, nothing could be further from the truth. The global economy has been shaped by nearly 600 year of european influence and trade, both positively and negatively. The vast majority of the latter has been solely directed towards the "dark continent" and it's impact has had lasting ramifications that can be seen and felt centuries later.

Ask yourself, why you've never heard of a trade agreement with any African or Caribbean region? There are massive sources of untapped skilled and unskilled low cost labor just sitting there unmolested. I'm certainly no Rothschild Illuminati type conspiracist, however, I'm positive its the result of the 1/5th of the worlds populations' continuing dominance over of the rest.

I'm with Rudebwoy on this one, I may not have zuckerburg money, but with what I do have, I too can choose wisely on where and what impact it will have. I understand there are massive powers at play, however if WE consciously decide, on global scale, to spend our resources with US, we can begin to make a small dent somewhere, somehow.

^Thanks for you post and welcome.

I didn't touch the Illuminati stuff, I will let others talk about that on the other threads.

I believe there is Caricom, which is the trade between other Caribbean countries. Not sure how well this functions, I do know stronger economic islands like Trinidad are buying up alot of businesses in the other Caribbean islands. I am always amazed how quickly these countries will sell out some of their valued resources.

As for Africa, outsiders have been vying for that land and it's resources for centuries. China is the latest contingent trying to buy up all the resources, I believe they got kicked out of Angola for trying to dictate policies.

Africa is the wealthiest continent on the planet, it has resources to supply the planet. One example is this mineral called Coltan, which every cellphone requires. To my understanding this can only be found in Africa in large quantities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltan

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/blood-coltan/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p..._them.html

I always find it funny that the Arabs "only" have oil and yet are so rich. The Africans have oil, diamonds, cocoa and much more, yet they are poor.

So where is the money going?

In Africa, it's political elites siphoning off state money into Swiss bank accounts. Hell, that's the story in most of the developing world and a lot of the developed world.

As for the Caribbean, most of the islands face yearly hurricane threats. And in the case of Haiti, earthquakes as well. There doesn't seem to be enough resilience in the economy to rebuild, or build to minimize the inevitable. So whatever progress made over the years, can get wiped out in one night.

Why is DR so much more prosperous that Haiti? It's the same damn island!

The one time I talked to the ambassador, he was promoting ethanol made from sugarcane. But if the U.S. defied the corn lobby, that would open up Brazil's ethanol as well.

But the basic equation of unused labor and need for goods and services remains unsolved.

What I have to sell, no one wants.
What I want and need, I can't afford.

And since we basically measure wealth on what lifestyle developed nations enjoy... Seems like you can't ever close the circle.

WIA

DR has tourism to bolster their GDP. I think a significant amount of money and goods comes from tourists, Dominicans living in the West and Western Union donations from dudes who are sustaining a lizard or two down there. I swear and quote me if I'm wrong but didn't Haiti have to cut down a significant part of foliage as some sort of payment? Timber or something? I also found it strange that earthquake devastated that part of the island yet it was bachata as usual for the DR side.

Excellent point Comrade!

The earthquake hit and then US Army was on the scene controlling things very quickly.

Large deposits of Oil were found in the country.

"Leaving aside the relevant question of how well in advance the Pentagon and US scientists knew the quake was about to occur, and what Pentagon plans were being laid before January 12, another issue emerges around the events in Haiti that might help explain the bizarre behavior to date of the major 'rescue' players-the United States, France and Canada. Aside from being prone to violent earthquakes, Haiti also happens to lie in a zone that, due to the unusual geographical intersection of its three tectonic plates, might well be straddling one of the world's largest unexplored zones of oil and gas, as well as of valuable rare strategic minerals.

The vast oil reserves of the Persian Gulf and of the region from the Red Sea into the Gulf of Aden are at a similar convergence zone of large tectonic plates, as are such oil-rich zones as Indonesia and the waters off the coast of California. In short, in terms of the physics of the earth, precisely such intersections of tectonic masses as run directly beneath Haiti have a remarkable tendency to be the sites of vast treasures of minerals, as well as oil and gas, throughout the world."

(02-23-2016 09:23 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  The rest og Africa along with every majority black nation in the world is trash. Don't believe me? The 4 poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere are Haiti, Belize, The Dominican Republic & Guyana in that order. All majority black. Makes me wonder if something is inherently wrong with our race.

Belize doesn't even have half a million people in its population. By comparison its two neighbors have a population of 122 million and 15 million and share a common language and culture. To put it in perspective even a small US city like El Paso Texas has almost double the population of the entire Belizean nation. Shouldn't really expect them to be an economic powerhouse.

Guyana also has a population of less than a million people. And despite assumptions it is not a majority black nation, the majority is East indian descent.

Dominican Republic among the top 4 poorest in Western Hemisphere? Nah, Nicaragua and Bolivia are poorer by GDP along with the other 2 nations mentioned previously with populations far under 1 million. Im not sure what data point you are using.

I will give you Haiti.

Without going into too much detail, Haiti has been fucked throughout its his story due to being a former slave colony that revolted and became independent. As punishment many countries including the US refused to trade with it or recognize it for decades. Also the huge amount of debt it has owed france was crippling and frequent natural disasters have made it almost impossible to get ahead and not a reflection of the lack of willpower among haitian people.

I can understand your frustrations but there is nothing "inherently wrong" with our race. All one has to do is study history.To make a statement like that is almost some troll level shit.

Not to split hairs but as an Ethiopian don't you consider yourself to be of a different "race" anyway? Please correct me if I am wrong, no offense intended.

(02-25-2016 02:53 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Excellent point Comrade!

The earthquake hit and then US Army was on the scene controlling things very quickly.

Large deposits of Oil were found in the country.

"Leaving aside the relevant question of how well in advance the Pentagon and US scientists knew the quake was about to occur, and what Pentagon plans were being laid before January 12, another issue emerges around the events in Haiti that might help explain the bizarre behavior to date of the major 'rescue' players-the United States, France and Canada. Aside from being prone to violent earthquakes, Haiti also happens to lie in a zone that, due to the unusual geographical intersection of its three tectonic plates, might well be straddling one of the world's largest unexplored zones of oil and gas, as well as of valuable rare strategic minerals.

The vast oil reserves of the Persian Gulf and of the region from the Red Sea into the Gulf of Aden are at a similar convergence zone of large tectonic plates, as are such oil-rich zones as Indonesia and the waters off the coast of California. In short, in terms of the physics of the earth, precisely such intersections of tectonic masses as run directly beneath Haiti have a remarkable tendency to be the sites of vast treasures of minerals, as well as oil and gas, throughout the world."

We may need to go into this topic some more. I have been hearing similar information. I have family living there.

I would have to strongly disagree with that last sentence. The third highest per capita gdp in the americas is trinidad, which is not quite an afro majority but fairly close. Also the islands of seychelles and mauritius off the coast of east africa seem to top the HDI charts in Africa. Africa's current state would most likely be the aftermath of imperialism and colonialism. They have an abundance of resources but the economy is managed poorly. Trinidad's economy does well due to its oil and natural gas reserves, but seychelles and mauritius have neither and these afro majority nations are 2nd and 3rd respectively behind Libya in HDI.
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(02-25-2016 03:38 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Belize doesn't even have half a million people in its population. By comparison its two neighbors have a population of 122 million and 15 million and share a common language and culture. To put it in perspective even a small US city like El Paso Texas has almost double the population of the entire Belizean nation. Shouldn't really expect them to be an economic powerhouse.

Guyana also has a population of less than a million people. And despite assumptions it is not a majority black nation, the majority is East indian descent.

Dominican Republic among the top 4 poorest in Western Hemisphere? Nah, Nicaragua and Bolivia are poorer by GDP along with the other 2 nations mentioned previously with populations far under 1 million. Im not sure what data point you are using.

I will give you Haiti.

Without going into too much detail, Haiti has been fucked throughout its his story due to being a former slave colony that revolted and became independent. As punishment many countries including the US refused to trade with it or recognize it for decades. Also the huge amount of debt it has owed france was crippling and frequent natural disasters have made it almost impossible to get ahead and not a reflection of the lack of willpower among haitian people.

I can understand your frustrations but there is nothing "inherently wrong" with our race. All one has to do is study history.To make a statement like that is almost some troll level shit.

Not to split hairs but as an Ethiopian don't you consider yourself to be of a different "race" anyway? Please correct me if I am wrong, no offense intended.

Thanks for the corrections guys. I had no idea Guyana was majority East Indian. And it's true that Nicaragua and Bolivia are poorer than Guyana and Belize. Maybe i checked out older statistics.

But the point remains ...

Seychelles and Mauritius are tiny islands in the Indian Ocean whose economies are entirely based on tourism coupled with tiny populations. The population of Seychelles is majority mulatto (mostly French with some Kenyan/Tanzanian blood) and a bit of South Asian. I would not consider them "black" at all. Economically they're French bitches like i described in my previous post. Me and my parents went there on vacation in my early teens and this is what they look like for the most part ...



Same with Mauritius except they got more Tamil & Chinese blood. Still French bitches though and through. They're even less black.



Trinidad is a country with just over a million people sporting vast Oil resources. Add an impressive tourism industry to that. They could have easily been as rich as the UAE, Kuwait or Qatar. But they are still considered 3rd world despite being blessed with Oil, natural resources and a fertile tropical climate able to secure their own food production unlike the Gulf Arabs. How the fuck would you explain that?

Guyana is flowing in gold, diamonds, Oil , aluminum ore, coffee and timber and like you said ... a tiny population of less than a million. How the fuck can you not secure a middle-class lifestyle for at least a 3rd of the population with resources like that?

I'm tired of people creating excuses for Haiti. It's got the geography and resources every other Caribbean nation has but has an HDI of a desert African nation like Mali. Stop blaming colonialism.

Call me a troll all you want but Niggas be crazy and there is something wrong with us.

If Asian and South American colonies were able to pick themselves up then why can't we?

No offense taken. Yes old school Ethiopians have that superiority complex but us younger Habeshas all consider ourselves black like we are.

Unfortunately minerals in the dirt don't make Africans rich. Let's call a spade a spade, Sub-Saharan Africa outside of South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, and parts of Kenya is still dirt poor. Even relative to African diaspora nations like Jamaica and Trinidad alike, SSA is far lower in the development scale. Haiti gets a honorary African country title because it's about as developed as Niger, or Congo.

It's the unfortunate the current state of affairs, but Anabasis is mostly right.

Self reflection should not be conflated with self hatred. Pointing out that African states are damaged is observation, knowing why; that's critical thinking. It's a good thing, because with critical thinking comes the ability to find opportunities for the future in a globalized world. And yes, the world is globalized, and will continue to move in that direction. We're better adapting and using it to our advantage. Those who think they can stop globalization in its tracks will be left standing naked holding a wet towel as the rest of the world moves to integrate its industries.

As for assigning blame; Leopold and his Belgian posse lay waste to the Congolese, but in hindsight, most of Africa's problems and those of the diaspora are unfortunately self inflicted.

From the 1400's onwards (much earlier on the east coast), kingdoms arose in the jungles and deserts based on one commodity. That commodity was people. These mono resource economies sold half the population of the continent to the Portuguese, Dutch, and Arab Slavers. Next time an American black 'scholar' tells you how Africa had great Empires, it's good to keep the perspective that these so called great Empires were financed almost exclusively on slavery. It was one giant ferocious ponzi scheme of selling as many people to slavers for gold, rum, and guns and then using those resource to finance more people hunting.

When the British ended slavery by force within the Empire, and then the world, all these so called great Empires folded faster than a Saudi king can say "shit, nobody wants our oil anymore". Come the end of the 19th century, there wasn't really any so called Empires remaining, at least not in west Africa. At that point the European Empires could just walk into what was probably an apocalyptic environment of bushmen and the subjects of what Empires and kingdoms remained. The rest is history.

Why is it relevant? For one, knowing history should put into perspective that there's no great conspiracy to keep black or mixed people down. Most of this is self inflicted, and I predict, it's quite reversible in a short period of time with the right mentality. If Africans and alike were truly hopeless, then we should've been consigned to the scrap-bin of history, along with the North American Indian and Aboriginals of Australia. Portugal would have colonized the Gold Coast in the 1450s, and that would've been the end of that. And we know, that's not what happened.

Secondly, we, westerners who have African or some African origins aren't going to change Africa's state of affairs. If you roll into Africa, you're there to do business, not politics. You can certainly help, but that's it.

You can't roll into Uganda and convince Museveni not fire teargas at opposition supporters every time they peacefully gather, you can't change Jacob Zuma's mind of destroying all the anti-corruption agencies so he can proceed to clean out what's left of South Africa's treasury for himself and his buddies, you can't go to Zimbabwe and convince Mugabe to not...you get the idea. But you can go to many of these places and do business, if you have at least some family connections, ability to speak the language, and are willing to do things the African way.

Nigeria (south) is a very good place to hustle. But obviously to do business in the region, one needs their own boots on the ground. The place is painfully corrupt. Getting anything done can be grindingly slow. People want bribes, half the civil servants don't give a shit or are woefully incompetent, and for every smart Nigerian you meet in the west, there's a half wit left back there.

I'm most likely going to go to Lagos this November. I'll be scouting for ideas and I'll try to do more write-ups after I've had more first hand experiences dealing with some of the local issues. I'm going to see what type of jobs there are in my industry, and in addition what the feasibility of running a small business using western standards of quality end product would entail in the region.

All in all, I'm just musing out here, throwing ideas around, trying to gather perspectives. Seeing what some of you think on the (wide range) of topics. Ultimately though, there's money to be made.

(02-26-2016 03:55 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  Unfortunately minerals in the dirt don't make Africans rich.

It's called the resource curse by economists.

(02-26-2016 03:55 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  As for assigning blame; Leopold and his Belgian posse lay waste to the Congolese, but in hindsight, most of Africa's problems and those of the diaspora are unfortunately self inflicted.

I have to beg to differ here.

The colonial governments left, but the multi-national interests did not.

So BP, Shell, Rio Tinto, whoever - they have basically been able to pay off the ruling elites. Africans aren't stabbing themselves in the gut, their elites are stabbing them in the back and robbing them blind.

The elites don't have the same interests as the regular people.

You have a super rich 1% and then 99% of folks just trying to make it. The middle class in most developing nations is small to non-existent.

Without the money from the resources being invested back into the country, in the form of both physical and social infrastructure, all a place can do is rot.

(02-26-2016 03:55 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  Secondly, we, westerners who have African or some African origins aren't going to change Africa's state of affairs. If you roll into Africa, you're there to do business, not politics. You can certainly help, but that's it.

So true.

My thesis is that the problems are governance and wealth distribution/investment.

But there's nothing you can do about that.

...

The real question is what kind of business can you do in Africa?

Importing foreign goods?
Exporting African goods elsewhere?

There are certainly *jobs* available for highly skilled people from the West, but if I wanted to build someone else's kingdom.....

WIA

(02-26-2016 03:55 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  Nigeria (south) is a very good place to hustle. But obviously to do business in the region, one needs their own boots on the ground. The place is painfully corrupt. Getting anything done can be grindingly slow. People want bribes, half the civil servants don't give a shit or are woefully incompetent, and for every smart Nigerian you meet in the west, there's a half wit left back there.

I'm most likely going to go to Lagos this November. I'll be scouting for ideas and I'll try to do more write-ups after I've had more first hand experiences dealing with some of the local issues. I'm going to see what type of jobs there are in my industry, and in addition what the feasibility of running a small business using western standards of quality end product would entail in the region.

You should check out this site ran by an Ethiopian lady that features alot of case studies, trend reports, ideas, and general information about diasporans that went back their home countries and started enterprises in Africa. Pretty enlightening site: http://africajumpstart.com/

Its certainly possible to get something popping off back home, but you have to be all in and like you said, have boots on the ground and trustworthy contacts. This won't be a 4 hour workweek type passive income hustle, where you plop money somewhere and watch it grow, but with some resolve and a good plan you can have success. I can speak first hand at the challenges of launching businesses there and having partners and family steal from under your nose. Comes with the territory I guess, and I completely understand if some folks don't have an appetite for that kind of risk.

(02-25-2016 06:49 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  I'm tired of people creating excuses for Haiti. It's got the geography and resources every other Caribbean nation has but has an HDI of a desert African nation like Mali. Stop blaming colonialism.

Call me a troll all you want but Niggas be crazy and there is something wrong with us.

If Asian and South American colonies were able to pick themselves up then why can't we?

No offense taken. Yes old school Ethiopians have that superiority complex but us younger Habeshas all consider ourselves black like we are.

Haiti was never colonized, so we cannot blame it on colonialism. Haiti did however battle off European forces from France, England and Spain. To my knowledge they are the only "african" country to do so, although I did hear that Ethiopia defeated the Italians. I suggest you read about Toussant L'Overture and his battles.

It seems like European countries have never forgotten this and Haiti has been made to pay ever since. I guess France is still bitter because they had to sell Louisana to finance those wars with Haiti. (Louisana Purchase)

Which South American colonies were able to pick themselves up? Brazil is probably the economic leader in that region and from what I see things aren't that rosy down there.

As for Africa, the continent is being divided because of it's resources not because of it's labour. In fact, the Chinese bring their own labour force whenever they do projects overseas. Jamaica installed a highway a few years back, the Chinese were in charge of the project and had their "people" build the road.

I posted an article about Nigeria wanting a loan from the World Bank. This has been the same formula for decades, get a loan from the IMF at rates that can never be paid back. In return, they claim all your natural resources as a lien against the payment. IMF some know it as the International Monetary Fund, I prefer to call them the International Monetary Fraudsters.

I was also wondering what the name of the Nigerian oil company? Royal Dutch Shell, Total, BP etc are European companies.

(02-29-2016 02:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 06:49 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  I'm tired of people creating excuses for Haiti. It's got the geography and resources every other Caribbean nation has but has an HDI of a desert African nation like Mali. Stop blaming colonialism.

Call me a troll all you want but Niggas be crazy and there is something wrong with us.

If Asian and South American colonies were able to pick themselves up then why can't we?

No offense taken. Yes old school Ethiopians have that superiority complex but us younger Habeshas all consider ourselves black like we are.

Haiti was never colonized, so we cannot blame it on colonialism. Haiti did however battle off European forces from France, England and Spain. To my knowledge they are the only "african" country to do so, although I did hear that Ethiopia defeated the Italians. I suggest you read about Toussant L'Overture and his battles.

It seems like European countries have never forgotten this and Haiti has been made to pay ever since. I guess France is still bitter because they had to sell Louisana to finance those wars with Haiti. (Louisana Purchase)

Which South American colonies were able to pick themselves up? Brazil is probably the economic leader in that region and from what I see things aren't that rosy down there.

As for Africa, the continent is being divided because of it's resources not because of it's labour. In fact, the Chinese bring their own labour force whenever they do projects overseas. Jamaica installed a highway a few years back, the Chinese were in charge of the project and had their "people" build the road.

I posted an article about Nigeria wanting a loan from the World Bank. This has been the same formula for decades, get a loan from the IMF at rates that can never be paid back. In return, they claim all your natural resources as a lien against the payment. IMF some know it as the International Monetary Fund, I prefer to call them the International Monetary Fraudsters.

I was also wondering what the name of the Nigerian oil company? Royal Dutch Shell, Total, BP etc are European companies.

Unfortunately, Haiti was colonized RudeBwoy. In fact it was the richest colony in the western hemisphere before Independence in 1804.

(02-29-2016 02:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I was also wondering what the name of the Nigerian oil company? Royal Dutch Shell, Total, BP etc are European companies.

All oil exploration in Nigeria is co-ordinated through the NNPC. They more or less have the final seal of approval of anything oil related in the country.

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