Post: #2301

(12-03-2015 04:52 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 11:13 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Does the courtship stuff actually work in the Philippines as of today?

No.

It works for what it sets out to achieve - marriage and kids. For women it filters out most of the playboys because of the sheer time investment required and for men it helps to boost the likelihood of getting a virgin bride.

I can assure you that there is still plenty of courting going on in the provinces, though it is supposedly nowhere near as strict as it once was. I met a university student who was courted for almost a year before starting to date her boyfriend. They still hadn't kissed by that point.

Post: #2302

(12-03-2015 07:18 AM)dreambig Wrote:  I think you are talking about naturals acting in their native environment. While I get what you are saying and find it fun to observe those guys, it's not really the same thing. Much of it is culturally learned, e.g. the security guards who hit on staff working in malls. That is normal in the Philippines. If you tried to explain to them that they were doing "day game" they would find it hilarious. That's just what men in those jobs are supposed to do. They need a wife like anyone else.

Alright, yeah. I guess we are definitely just talking about different things. It probably has to do with me being distanced from the PUA stuff - other than a couple short phases it's never been much of a focus of mine.

I mean, I also get a little bit bewildered when I meet up with a forum member and he starts talking to me about wanting to do some "day game." haha That shit blows my mind - "You mean talk to girls in the daytime?" And dropping acronyms in real life just cracks me up and is not part of my reality.

So, when it comes down to that definition, I guess that I don't really have game either - I've always just naturally gotten laid and then evolved my personal seduction patterns over time, so maybe that's why I think of game that way. Where I grew up, when you said, "damn that guy's got game," it just meant he knew how to pull and/or control chicks. That was before all this PUA stuff came out and game just meant being good at chasing pussy and catching it.

Also, to me game comes in so many different styles aside from what most of you guys do. Few guys who've known me long enough to see the effect I have on women would ever say I don't have game, but you'll rarely ever see me purposely aproach a girl unless I'm drunk, and I'm usually having too much fun to go for the hard close. I flirt with a lot of girls but rarely pursue them the way someone here might.

Yet, women from every race and background seem to get downright addicted to me once I get my dirty little hooks in them, and I've gotten my dirty little hooks in quite a few. I was well on my way to 100 broads before I left the states in my mid-20s, and I'm pretty sure I passed 200 quite some time ago (though it doesn't feel exactly fair anymore now that I've lived in Asia so long) - this is while juggling a couple handfuls of 1 - 3 year relationships along the way and being mostly faithful in them.

So for me, saying I have no game just because I don't have this PUA-style game is just a little strange, especially considering how long cats have been linking that word to chasing pussy. That's definitely not how any of the guys back home would describe me and my relationship with women.

But I accept that we're just talking about different things, and the tangent is getting pretty far out there now.

Just one last point; I don't think it's 100% fair to talk about taking Filipinos to the Western world - the Western style is more transferable across cultures than theirs because of Western media, and there's a major reason why the places white guys kill it tend to be the poorest places in the world...also, while it's not impossible to overcome, there is a stigma attached to Asian guys in the West, especially a guy fresh off the boat. It's the same reason a lot of white guys suddenly have strong "game" when they get here.

And for the record, they're a minority, but I've also met my share of Souheast Asian cats who spend every night of the week filleting Western broads in various backpacker destinations. To me that at least suggests players would adjust.

I don't want to beat a dead horse anymore than we already are, but people keep bringing up this comparison and it's far from apples to apples.

I'm going to get off the damn computer now. I think I've more than said my piece at this point, and it's time for me to stop hogging the thread.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #2303

(12-03-2015 07:54 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 07:18 AM)dreambig Wrote:  I think you are talking about naturals acting in their native environment. While I get what you are saying and find it fun to observe those guys, it's not really the same thing. Much of it is culturally learned, e.g. the security guards who hit on staff working in malls. That is normal in the Philippines. If you tried to explain to them that they were doing "day game" they would find it hilarious. That's just what men in those jobs are supposed to do. They need a wife like anyone else.

Alright, yeah. I guess we are definitely just talking about different things. It probably has to do with me being distanced from the PUA stuff - other than a couple short phases it's never been much of a focus of mine.

I mean, I also get a little bit bewildered when I meet up with a forum member and he starts talking to me about wanting to do some "day game." haha That shit blows my mind - "You mean talk to girls in the daytime?" And dropping acronyms in real life just cracks me up and is not part of my reality.

So, when it comes down to that definition, I guess that I don't really have game either - I've always just naturally gotten laid and then evolved my personal seduction patterns over time, so maybe that's why I think of game that way. Where I grew up, when you said, "damn that guy's got game," it just meant he knew how to pull and/or control chicks. That was before all this PUA stuff came out and game just meant being good at chasing pussy and catching it.

Also, to me game comes in so many different styles aside from what most of you guys do. Few guys who've known me long enough to see the effect I have on women would ever say I don't have game, but you'll rarely ever see me purposely aproach a girl unless I'm drunk, and I'm usually having too much fun to go for the hard close. I flirt with a lot of girls but rarely pursue them the way someone here might.

Yet, women from every race and background seem to get downright addicted to me once I get my dirty little hooks in them, and I've gotten my dirty little hooks in quite a few. I was well on my way to 100 broads before I left the states in my mid-20s, and I'm pretty sure I passed 200 quite some time ago (though it doesn't feel exactly fair anymore now that I've lived in Asia so long) - this is while juggling a couple handfuls of 1 - 3 year relationships along the way and being mostly faithful in them.

So for me, saying I have no game just because I don't have this PUA-style game is just a little strange, especially considering how long cats have been linking that word to chasing pussy. That's definitely not how any of the guys back home would describe me and my relationship with women.

But I accept that we're just talking about different things, and the tangent is getting pretty far out there now.

Just one last point; I don't think it's 100% fair to talk about taking Filipinos to the Western world - the Western style is more transferable across cultures than theirs because of Western media, and there's a major reason why the places white guys kill it tend to be the poorest places in the world...also, while it's not impossible to overcome, there is a stigma attached to Asian guys in the West, especially a guy fresh off the boat. It's the same reason a lot of white guys suddenly have strong "game" when they get here.

And for the record, they're a minority, but I've also met my share of Souheast Asian cats who spend every night of the week filleting Western broads in various backpacker destinations. To me that at least suggests players would adjust.

I don't want to beat a dead horse anymore than we already are, but people keep bringing up this comparison and it's far from apples to apples.

I'm going to get off the damn computer now. I think I've more than said my piece at this point, and it's time for me to stop hogging the thread.

I think about game all the time. I am fucking obsessed with it. Even if I tried to get it out of my head I couldn't.

Post: #2304

JC, what aspect of game are you referring too?

Maybe your obssesed because it's new to you? The obsession will go away in time.

Post: #2305

(12-03-2015 12:43 PM)Onto Wrote:  JC, what aspect of game are you referring too?

Maybe your obssesed because it's new to you? The obsession will go away in time.

Been in it for 10 years. It has been the absolute focus for all of that time.

Post: #2306

(12-03-2015 12:44 PM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:43 PM)Onto Wrote:  JC, what aspect of game are you referring too?

Maybe your obssesed because it's new to you? The obsession will go away in time.

Been in it for 10 years. It has been the absolute focus for all of that time.

What aspect of it? Getting laid? I think thats pretty normal for young men. As you get older though you become less interested in notches and more interested in finding a quality woman.

At least that's the way it's been for me, but I've always been more of an LTR guy anyways so take what I say with a grain of salt

Post: #2307

(12-03-2015 12:50 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:44 PM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:43 PM)Onto Wrote:  JC, what aspect of game are you referring too?

Maybe your obssesed because it's new to you? The obsession will go away in time.

Been in it for 10 years. It has been the absolute focus for all of that time.

What aspect of it? Getting laid? I think thats pretty normal for young men. As you get older though you become less interested in notches and more interested in finding a quality woman.

At least that's the way it's been for me, but I've always been more of an LTR guy anyways so take what I say with a grain of salt

He's trolling Onto. This guy is either Special Ed or Deb. I'm leaning towards Special Ed. He has already racked up over 77 posts and he signed up on Dec 1.

Post: #2308

@JC

I was checking out of this club last night and the bartender said, "Wait a sec, man, what is your number?"

I jotted my number down real quick, and another bartender who hadn't met me before looked over and saw me handing a number and said, "Wait, what are you looking for?" Good ole southeast Asia....

I'd been in Gramercy for hours. There were models everywhere and I hadn't bothered hitting on one. Every other guy was already. Sometimes that attitude works in my favor and sometimes it doesn't. That's life.

I wasn't looking for shit.

I looked at him and said, "Nothing, man. I'm looking for life. Just looking to live."

The other bartender spoke up and said to his friend, "This guy is really cool. He's not buying anything." That guy will be worth more to me as a connection than any pussy in that bar; and even if not, that mindset will be over time.

Get obsessed with life, brother.

Game is cool. By dreambig's definition or mine. I love pussy and have had my share of obsessions with both chasing it and tearing into it.

But you won't find happiness there. Not in obsession. And I don't care if your results are better than mine or worse - the advice still stands.

10 years is a long time to obsess on a natural human function. Focus on living the hell out of the time you've got and make ass your side passion. Connect with people. try new things. Have a laugh and a good conversation. If you can't get it out of your head enough to do that, well, meditate, I guess.

We were not designed to be one-trick ponies.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #2309

On Pinalove i can only choose in 'Areas of Manila':
Makati, Malate, Paco, Pandacan, Port Area, Sampaloc, San Andres, Santa Cruz, Tondo
I am located in Quezon City - where is that, what should i choose?

Post: #2310

Passed out last night. Woke up to do some morning swiping. Noticing a lot of fake white girl bots being made. Seems like they are tinder farming creating here, could explain why people are having trouble logging in.

Post: #2311

Enjoy 71 Gramercy while you can lads....as I predicted a few months ago the curtain will be coming down in January.....none of the higher end places have much of a shelf life here.....next please:-)

Post: #2312

71Gramercy is wall to wall white guys already anyhow.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #2313

(12-03-2015 08:03 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  71Gramercy is wall to wall white guys already anyhow.

Use to be better. Problem is short term rentals at the Gramercy is the go to place for sexpats these days. Its a bit marked. Condos are getting smart and the higher end places are banning short term rentals all together.

Post: #2314

(12-02-2015 08:27 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 07:49 PM)Roccker Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 07:36 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  [quote='the Thing' pid='1162114' dateline='1449101516']
What's the thing with condo security? I asked the landlord if it's OK to have a guest a few nights, he asked for the guest's passport copy. Can the condo security cockblock me when I try to bring someone over?

Omg. I rented airbnb little apartment. The building has security. I don't know how the security works. But it can't be that i can't bring guests, i mean, that would be totally ridiculous. Or is it.

Stop freaking out. Any legit condo here has security. Better to not have asked your landlord and just let security deal with it. They are not going to refuse you entry.

GREASE THE SECURITY GUARD.
It's extra work for him helping her get a taxi, letting you in and out when you come back and he wants to be sleeping...throw him 5o or hundred when he has to watch you get girls he can't get.

Every worker at the apartment I stayed at knew if they did ANTHING for me I always threw then 20 to 50.

It helped save me when I had one hysterical girl storm out and ruin the vibe.

Post: #2315

Ike, this is spot on. I always tip security 20 or 50 for anything they do. Also, I always say hello and smile. Haven't had any problems bringing girls. After I bring a few girls, they remember me and get even friendlier.

Post: #2316

(12-03-2015 08:33 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  GREASE THE SECURITY GUARD.

That's what I did when I got a side chick to come up to my condo on my recent trip.

I went up to the lobby guard with a smile, slipped him a 50 php bill, saying "Sir, I'm expecting xxx, so when she comes in, my room number is xxxx and you can let her go up. Salamat po"

A little elbow grease...

Post: #2317

(12-03-2015 08:22 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 08:03 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  71Gramercy is wall to wall white guys already anyhow.

Use to be better. Problem is short term rentals at the Gramercy is the go to place for sexpats these days. Its a bit marked. Condos are getting smart and the higher end places are banning short term rentals all together.

Yeah, don't get me wrong. I went up there the other night as you suggested and gave it another go, and I'd say it's definitely still a good place to swoop. When I went in there was a big group of local and foreign models there, and I guess they pop in their regularly. It's just like every young guy in Manila read the "picking up high end chicks in Manila" thread and headed over there though to try to run that game to a 't.' haha I'll go back again, but the majority of the clientele is now well-dressed young white male businessmen.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #2318

Does anybody know how to stay 90 days in the Phils with a European passport that allows 30 days?

Post: #2319

Ok. There is some interest in on filipinocupid.
How do you go about it? Do you screen more for sex in your profile text? Do you just look through the girls messaging you first and go for most beautiful first? Do you screen by inviting them to your place in first sentence?

I guess i will make a fake facebook for facebook chat.. i don't want to add them to my real profile (my friends seeing i suddenly have philipina friends and also for anonymity)
i guess i will wait for doing that, whatsapp, viber, normal text, skype should be enough

@JesusChrist: you go to immegration buero in these 30 days and extend your visa

Post: #2320

I gave a few tips in the Phils. Next time I will do it all the time to create a routine. Why not, its cheap anyways and beneficial.

(12-03-2015 10:15 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 08:33 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  GREASE THE SECURITY GUARD.

That's what I did when I got a side chick to come up to my condo on my recent trip.

I went up to the lobby guard with a smile, slipped him a 50 php bill, saying "Sir, I'm expecting xxx, so when she comes in, my room number is xxxx and you can let her go up. Salamat po"

A little elbow grease...

Post: #2321

Newbie reporting in. American living/working in Tagaytay. Been here for about 3 months. Anyone near Cavite wanna hang out or team up sometime? I have six bedroom villa and three of the rooms are unused

Post: #2322

(12-04-2015 10:40 PM)randomguy Wrote:  Newbie reporting in. American living/working in Tagaytay. Been here for about 3 months. Anyone near Cavite wanna hang out or team up sometime? I have six bedroom villa and three of the rooms are unused

I might be interested when I come back early next year. Just a couple of quick questions. How much are you renting the rooms out for? How long is the lease on the property? Are the 3 initial rooms rented out or are they friends of yours sharing the house with you?

You can PM me if not comfortable posting the info on the forum.

Post: #2323

I'm renting the entire house myself for 50k php/month. Lease is 3 months at a time but I'm guessing I can rent it indefinitely. It's definitely a baller place but I'm still looking for a better house as this one doesn't have a pool. One room I kinda turned into a mini theatre and another room is used as a storeroom for some girls who come over regularly. No idea on rent, 5k or something?

Post: #2324

Random guy,
Would love to hear more about Tagaytay/Cavite. Would love to see you write a data sheet on the place.

Cheers man!

Post: #2325

Met this Filipino couple in the club last night. There was this massive ladyboy posted up at the bar beside me and a bunch of others dancing there - I'd come in with a couple girls, but they were dancing and talking with the ladyboys for a few minutes and had disappeared on the other side of them briefly.

The Filipina looks at the bigfoot in a dress and says with a completely straight face and pleasant tone, "Is that your girlfriend?"

"Uhhhh...are you fucking crazy?" I said.

They both just started laughing, and I reached through the jungle of ladyboy limbs to retrieve my date and clear my name.

I don't know which of you young perverted white boys are running around dating these super trannies but you're giving us a seriously bad reputation out here.... haha

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling