Post: #2226

(11-29-2015 10:05 AM)Brodiaga Wrote:  First notch: a 6, 22 yo off FC. A bit chubby, but not ugly chubby, more like Selena Gomez chubby. Invited her right over to my place, she showed up in the afternoon. Time from meeting to getting balls deep less than 15 min, probably my personal record. No lmr, pretty good in bed, body great for sex, but refused to give bj. Sent her on her way in about 2 hrs.

If she was 20 y.o., I coulda sworn we banged the same girl.

Epic story with the girl with the fiance. With those kind of girls you really gotta play it innocent until the very end, which is exactly what you did XD. Stories like that scare the shit out of me (and other fellas) from doing anything long-term with a Philippines girl. thank god i'm not romantically attracted to them

(11-30-2015 02:45 AM)RawGod Wrote:  Do you have the balls to say "I have to pass up a blowjob from a cute girl if I meet you. Give me a blowjob"? Then laugh, hang up, and don't take her calls.
Seriously, there are a million girls out there.

You would think so, mon ami, you would think so..
.

Post: #2227

I texted the model and said I would never pay money for company.

I removed the exact verbiage of my message from this post, but basically I said in a nice way that I don't pay for play.

It's seems like she still wants to see me tonight, but you never know with these girls.

Post: #2228

(11-30-2015 02:53 AM)Brodiaga Wrote:  I will not pay the model regardless, except for meals and taxi fare, and even that I'm reluctant to pay.

It's a matter of principle.

I'm not ready to try asshole game on her either, however. I don't think asshole game generally works on Asia. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.

I can, however, try to tell her something along these lines in a more subtle way.

I generally run nice, funny text game until meet up then can tone up the assholeness, but only in person. They do like it in person, but bad English means sarcasm is real hard for them to understand.

Post: #2229

Location: Cebu City.

Today, had 3 dates scheduled. One new part time model from tinder, then the model Ive been trying to bang, then a new non-model girl from FC who looked pretty hot in pictures. All evening dates, one hour each back to back with the intention to cancel or push back later dates if earlier hoes well.

First part time model from tinder. Tall, probably a little taller than me. An 8 I would say. Met at Ayala, grabbed drinks. Because the repeat date model texted she was coming, it was fuck or walk with tinder girl, so mid drink I asked her her to come over to mine to watch a movie. It was rushed, and she said she was gonna meet her friends later so I bounced and made it on time to have a third date with the other model. She was also around Ayala, luckily didn't see me.

So, the repeat date model came to my place after a photoshoot. She was dolled up and looked like a 9 this time. Apologized for bringing up the subject of photoshoot cost earlier. I tried to build some comfort by talking to her for awhile and then kiss and escalate again, but no luck this time either. She had to leave soon. We still might go to the beach together, but of course I'm not paying her if she has to skip photoshoots. Having spoken to her more about work, I would say she's the most legit model of the 3 girls I met here in person who called themselves models.

I was a little late for date 3 after the model left, and that girl lost connection, so that date didnt happen.

Then I texted the tinder fiancee from last night who was already going to bed but agreed to come over. She's really cool to talk to. She was tired, so we had a quick drink, she gave me another nice bj, banged and now she's sleeping in my bed as I type this.

In the meantime, the tinder part time model texted, and we tentatively agreed to hang out at my place tomorrow after her work. I would say it's a coin toss with that one.

I need to go to the beach, so even if the repeat date model doesn't sleep with me, Id still like tol take her there. We'll see.

Post: #2230

Yes had the same tinder problem, has something to do with the free fb promo. I am on android and using globe, after I shut down tinder and cleared the chache files it was working fine again.

Found a new club in mandue, it's near the crossroads of a.s. fortuna and main high way, just 100m pastjollibee, not onto as Fortuna but along the highway. Fully packed last Monday and saturday, no other whiteboys... forgot the name, cheap as well 60p for sml.

Post: #2231

(11-29-2015 11:19 AM)reachman Wrote:  Great post Brodaiga!

I had a girl in Cebu tell me a similar thing after I fucked her for a long time. She opened up and said some guy from online was going to move her to another continent. She was one of the few Filipinas who gave me the straight goods.

Hate to white knight here, but I think you have to factor in that none of these girls is really sure the guy they are "steady" with is ever coming back.

I know I don't trust the girls-- they say they want to marry me, all sorts of shit --but I don't believe anything until they're sleeping with me every night with their fucking phones off, and filling out the forms to marry me.

Why should they believe us? If we're referrring to them as "notches" , how can we expect heroic loyalty in return?

Post: #2232

Good find Deneuk!
How was the talent?

Post: #2233

Great point. Just when I said one Filipina was "honest" with me. Skype chatting and meeting a girl in person for 6 hours doesn't qualify me to say she is telling the truth. Who knows what is actually happening in her life.

The girl asked me about how much she could make in Canada/ USA in her profession. She already knew the score. She seemed excited about emigrating to North America. But I gave her no illusions about my interest. Through Skyping and IM, I said just need a sexual girl to take care of my needs after travel. Beautiful girl and great in bed. Gotta always take when they say with a grain of salt.

You called me out, deservedly.

(11-30-2015 11:52 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 11:19 AM)reachman Wrote:  Great post Brodaiga!

I had a girl in Cebu tell me a similar thing after I fucked her for a long time. She opened up and said some guy from online was going to move her to another continent. She was one of the few Filipinas who gave me the straight goods.

Hate to white knight here, but I think you have to factor in that none of these girls is really sure the guy they are "steady" with is ever coming back.

I know I don't trust the girls-- they say they want to marry me, all sorts of shit --but I don't believe anything until they're sleeping with me every night with their fucking phones off, and filling out the forms to marry me.

Why should they believe us? If we're referrring to them as "notches" , how can we expect heroic loyalty in return?

Post: #2234

(12-01-2015 12:01 AM)reachman Wrote:  Great point. Just when I said one Filipina was "honest" with me. Skype chatting and meeting a girl in person for 6 hours doesn't qualify me to say she is telling the truth....Beautiful girl and great in bed. Gotta always take when they say with a grain of salt.

You called me out, deservedly.

(11-30-2015 11:52 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 11:19 AM)reachman Wrote:  

Hate to white knight here,

I'm really not trying to judge anyone-- people are trying to get their needs met in a very uncertain world.

What I think is bad is vengefulness--if someone can't help you just let them be. But actively bulshitting with naive people seems crass.

The problem is-- how do you know who's naive lol. It reminds me of the aphorism about card games-- If you have to ask who the weakest player at the table is-- it's you.

Maybe both men and women should have some consideration for the weakest player at the table.

Post: #2235

Young crowd, i think 90% of the girls were under 20. B/G ratio about 50 50 i guess.

Saw some really hot girls there but didnt pull as i was wasted on both visits.

Also very closeby this club is pitlane, just past jollibee on the as fortuna side. cheapest place in cebu i guess. Crowd there is poor... in money and manners...

Post: #2236

(12-01-2015 01:11 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:01 AM)reachman Wrote:  Great point. Just when I said one Filipina was "honest" with me. Skype chatting and meeting a girl in person for 6 hours doesn't qualify me to say she is telling the truth....Beautiful girl and great in bed. Gotta always take when they say with a grain of salt.

You called me out, deservedly.

(11-30-2015 11:52 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 11:19 AM)reachman Wrote:  

Hate to white knight here,

I'm really not trying to judge anyone-- people are trying to get their needs met in a very uncertain world.

What I think is bad is vengefulness--if someone can't help you just let them be. But actively bulshitting with naive people seems crass.

The problem is-- how do you know who's naive lol. It reminds me of the aphorism about card games-- If you have to ask who the weakest player at the table is-- it's you.

Maybe both men and women should have some consideration for the weakest player at the table.

Call me rational. Economics. I exclusively choose upper middle class (top 10%), which in the Philippines is not much.

This means she has a car, her family lives a gated community / condo, speaks very good English, and either works for her family business or a relatively big corporation. Tinder does the trick for that. I see quite a few stunners there, once you swipe left all the rift in between.

With poorer girls I can guarantee you they are trying to hustle. If not explicitly then internally their family will try the guilt bullshit and take in some money. Even $200 a month is a FORTUNE for the poor, that can feed their family for quite a few days.

FC seems to be FILLED with these type of girls. Its almost not even worth my effort, but my shore game needs to be improved. There are a handful of stunners on there. I'm sure the rooshers have picked the bones clean.

If I wasn't doing some business here, I'd probably do a quick a one month tinder session and get out of here. My goal in the meantime is to build a nice little rotation of a 7's that I can hang with from time to time, solely through online game, as the night life game takes too much time, although I wouldn't mind going out for a couple hours on the weekend.

Post: #2237

Location: Cebu city

At a rooftop bar in Ayala mall, sipping my favorite beer here, San Miguel Pilsen.

Evening date with the tinder part time model from yesterday. The one I met briefly. She came straight over to my place to watch a movie. I touched and rubbed her all over, but she wouldn't let me kiss her. I tried like 20 times, did the 2 steps forward 1 step back thing, didn't help. Sent her on her way after a couple of hours.

The model I had met a few times before can't go to the beach with me, so I'm staying in Cebu until Friday. She can't meet me tonight either, meeting a photoshoot venue manager for coffee, probably sucking his dick as I type this.

Anyway, the girl I banged before was around in Ayala. She's a friend of the tinder girl I met at a party and then banged furiously (her, not the tinder girl) last week. I met her at the bar and was like holy fuck, she's beautiful. She works out and has a muscular tight body. To me, she's more beautiful than the model even though she doesn't have that classic model look. I had also refused to come to her bday party after I banged her. Now paying back for being an asshole I guess. She left the bar with her friends shortly after I joined them. I asked her to join me for drinks somewhere else, she said she'd text me but I think it was just to save face.

No boom boom today, but it's only 10 20 PM. I guess I can try to get some tail at mango, but have another repeat bang coming over tomorrow morning. Don't want to be wasted for that one either. Decisions, decisions...

Update: girl texted me, but said she would see me if I could give her money for shopping. I said I don't do that. It's kind of sad, because she's really beautiful and a great fuck.

It's more fun here right..

Post: #2238

Some of these girls do require patience. Keep the good reports coming.

Post: #2239

Game tip

Stating the obvious here, but don't mention money, expensive hotels where you stay or anything like that to poorer girls. Don't take them to expensive restaurants and bars unless you already know them well enough. Don't even stay at expensive places, but make sure logistics are tight. If the girl mentions money, like how much so and so costs, it's a red flag.

Post: #2240

I am wondering now why I never came across girls who are asking for money in Cebu. Maybe it's my age?

Post: #2241

(12-01-2015 07:04 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 01:11 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:01 AM)reachman Wrote:  Great point. Just when I said one Filipina was "honest" with me. Skype chatting and meeting a girl in person for 6 hours doesn't qualify me to say she is telling the truth....Beautiful girl and great in bed. Gotta always take when they say with a grain of salt.

You called me out, deservedly.

(11-30-2015 11:52 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 11:19 AM)reachman Wrote:  

Hate to white knight here,

I'm really not trying to judge anyone-- people are trying to get their needs met in a very uncertain world.

Call me rational. Economics. I exclusively choose upper middle class (top 10%), which in the Philippines is not much.

This means she has a car, her family lives a gated community / condo, speaks very good English, and either works for her family business or a relatively big corporation. Tinder does the trick for that. I see quite a few stunners there, once you swipe left all the rift in between.

With poorer girls I can guarantee you they are trying to hustle.

I think this is a good technique if you are YoungTallCool and have a goal of a "rotation of 7s".

But it sort of discounts that the upper middle class had to come from somewhere.

Specifically. lower class people who delayed gratification and moved up. It might be 30 generations back, but it had to happen at some point because far enough back everyone in the Philippines was in subsistence agriculture. And it is NOT easy at all to go from working classs->middle class in the Phils. The whole economy is structured to prevent it. Most people are hired for six month contracts so the business doesn't have to pay benefits, then they can't come back until some period of absence. Designed to keep people down.

So there are some exceptions to the "no lower class girls". There are girls who are in the lower class due to birth, but have the character, honesty and work ethic of the middle class. They are usually more suspicious however due to their background.

One way you find them is if they have a full time job busting ass in a factory. They may the one supporting the family, and may indeed be subject to pressure from some or all family members to proxy mooch. One girl I really liked, unprompted, actually talked about how she hoped for overtime. The family lived in squats with no refrigerator and boiled water with driftwood the father would gather. Out of her pay my girl and her sister pooled a small monthly payment on a piece of land somewhere in Cebu to protect their father should they be evicted someday. 50 hours a week in a cell phone factory inspecting phones making about a dollar an hour. Incredibly, she was always perfectly groomed and spotlessly clean.This is not a lazy, parasitical girl.

She took the trouble to go out and find small gifts for me, like a little box with tiny seashells glued to it. She was really nice. I myself fucked it up by being too paranoid.

That was several girls ago, and I'm still a bit broken up about it. I don't think it's oneitis, it's sentimentality, and I don't want to lose it. and 'Not all lower class girls are like that."

But I do think it takes time to recognize who's who in the Philippines because even parasitic girls are more well-mannered and less tattooed than loud, porcine Angloskanks.

Here's a rough scale in order of increasing desirability:

1) Has never had a scheduled job of any kind or full time college
2) Has only had part-time informal work, this often being doing laundry for neighbors, which I believe may be a form of folk welfare.
3) Has had contract scheduled work, but isn't working when you meet her.
4) Has full time job in retail or other lazy chick work.
5) Is working full time at a job where you can't be late and have to meet standards like a cell phone factory

I know I would have a hard time showing up and inspecting god-knows-how-many phones a day. For years.

Post: #2242

(12-01-2015 11:42 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  So there are some exceptions to the "no lower class girls". There are girls who are in the lower class due to birth, but have the character, honesty and work ethic of the middle class. They are usually more suspicious however due to their background.

The good thing about the Philippines is that there are plenty of girls in that are lower middle class to middle class types. The Philippines also has a very large population especially in real percentage terms to the number of foreigners who visit.

This lower middle/middle works in service or call center jobs and manage to more than make ends meet. They also don't have to whore themselves out or demean themselves in some way. They still have options and there's a lot less desperation with these girls or the games that idle better off girls play.

Girls with money or know how to make money off their looks (part time models, major hotel reception, ) in the Philippines don't last long before getting corrupted either. Facebook, tinder, various dating sites, etc.. are way too common now and some of them have a taste of how thirsty guys abroad are.

Post: #2243

A seasoned ex-pat in Davao told me if you want a good girl for an LTR you have to stay away from the cities. I nodded in agreement and said, "That's why I left Manila and came to Davao". He shook his head and said "Davao is the third largest city. You need to think 3rd, 4th tier cities and provinces. Once they make it to a major city they get ruined"

Post: #2244

Anything special on Wednesday nights at night clubs in Cebu, such as Liv? Tonight is actually my last full night here in Cebu. Leaving town Friday very early morning, so will only have half a night.

Post: #2245

Thanks for the post IKE, I have been following your posts for a while before I joined.

I guess my perspective is different since I am young (but not tall) and relatively attractive. But the guys here just literally have no game, its quite amusing to see them "court a girl" for months end without even getting any action.

I mean really? And this drives girls nuts, after all everyone has to have fun.

Just nailed a very solid 6 (I'm real harsh on ratings) probably more like a 7 with her very attractive face, and she tells me all these stories of guys trying to court her. The lack of game here by the filipino guys again makes it so, so easy if your decent looking in shape young guy to clean up.

/thread-33339.html is a gold mine.

(12-01-2015 11:42 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 07:04 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 01:11 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:01 AM)reachman Wrote:  Great point. Just when I said one Filipina was "honest" with me. Skype chatting and meeting a girl in person for 6 hours doesn't qualify me to say she is telling the truth....Beautiful girl and great in bed. Gotta always take when they say with a grain of salt.

You called me out, deservedly.

(11-30-2015 11:52 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  Hate to white knight here,

I'm really not trying to judge anyone-- people are trying to get their needs met in a very uncertain world.

Call me rational. Economics. I exclusively choose upper middle class (top 10%), which in the Philippines is not much.

This means she has a car, her family lives a gated community / condo, speaks very good English, and either works for her family business or a relatively big corporation. Tinder does the trick for that. I see quite a few stunners there, once you swipe left all the rift in between.

With poorer girls I can guarantee you they are trying to hustle.

I think this is a good technique if you are YoungTallCool and have a goal of a "rotation of 7s".

But it sort of discounts that the upper middle class had to come from somewhere.

Specifically. lower class people who delayed gratification and moved up. It might be 30 generations back, but it had to happen at some point because far enough back everyone in the Philippines was in subsistence agriculture. And it is NOT easy at all to go from working classs->middle class in the Phils. The whole economy is structured to prevent it. Most people are hired for six month contracts so the business doesn't have to pay benefits, then they can't come back until some period of absence. Designed to keep people down.

So there are some exceptions to the "no lower class girls". There are girls who are in the lower class due to birth, but have the character, honesty and work ethic of the middle class. They are usually more suspicious however due to their background.

One way you find them is if they have a full time job busting ass in a factory. They may the one supporting the family, and may indeed be subject to pressure from some or all family members to proxy mooch. One girl I really liked, unprompted, actually talked about how she hoped for overtime. The family lived in squats with no refrigerator and boiled water with driftwood the father would gather. Out of her pay my girl and her sister pooled a small monthly payment on a piece of land somewhere in Cebu to protect their father should they be evicted someday. 50 hours a week in a cell phone factory inspecting phones making about a dollar an hour. Incredibly, she was always perfectly groomed and spotlessly clean.This is not a lazy, parasitical girl.

She took the trouble to go out and find small gifts for me, like a little box with tiny seashells glued to it. She was really nice. I myself fucked it up by being too paranoid.

That was several girls ago, and I'm still a bit broken up about it. I don't think it's oneitis, it's sentimentality, and I don't want to lose it. and 'Not all lower class girls are like that."

But I do think it takes time to recognize who's who in the Philippines because even parasitic girls are more well-mannered and less tattooed than loud, porcine Angloskanks.

Here's a rough scale in order of increasing desirability:

1) Has never had a scheduled job of any kind or full time college
2) Has only had part-time informal work, this often being doing laundry for neighbors, which I believe may be a form of folk welfare.
3) Has had contract scheduled work, but isn't working when you meet her.
4) Has full time job in retail or other lazy chick work.
5) Is working full time at a job where you can't be late and have to meet standards like a cell phone factory

I know I would have a hard time showing up and inspecting god-knows-how-many phones a day. For years.

Post: #2246

Have lose plan to go to a big mall like every day for 30 days to daygame. I guess i shall only game girls working in shops in the last week. Or i just don't give a fuck.

I tried to trick tinder to think that i am already in Manila with the app 'fake gps' - but it didn't work.

I wrote in my profile on filipinocupid 'No, you cannot take friend/sister/mother/grandmother ot a date with me, are you cracy !' because i read that's a thing, that they bring others to dates.
On the other hand someone here (page 26 of reading this philippines thread) wrote about the brought person going out of the way over the course of the evening to give you 2time privacy, or that they even set him up for cuter friends of them. Guess i won't do that.

My father worries about philippines being dangerous. Wanna use rest of 12 days now before i go there to prepare myself by reading to be smart there. (Stay in Quezon, Manila)

Regarding the bullet-scam on Manila airport (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34774899) - is this only dangerous for people who fly from Manila to somewhere or also dangerous for people who arrive from somewhere at Manila?
(I have basically never flown before, i just imagined if i arrive at Manila i get my luggage - does luggage get controlled again, i guess yes? Is there the same risk?) At the url posted there is also a picture of a station where someone 'bags' your entire luggage as a protection against the bullet scam, i guess i will search for that. My first idea was to take my own plastic wraps with me - but probably a self-made solution is bad because it gets unnecessary attention. Perhaps the european airport i depart from has also a 'plastic wrapping station' at the airport (although in europe i heard wrapped luggage will get more attention from security/customs).

Right now plan is just 'stay near my place, near the shopping centre'.. but perhaps i look for a guided tour in a group to somewhere nice.. i have not much idea, it's not my top priority

Post: #2247

(12-01-2015 08:09 PM)Roccker Wrote:  Have lose plan to go to a big mall like every day for 30 days to daygame. I guess i shall only game girls working in shops in the last week. Or i just don't give a fuck.

I tried to trick tinder to think that i am already in Manila with the app 'fake gps' - but it didn't work.

I wrote in my profile on filipinocupid 'No, you cannot take friend/sister/mother/grandmother ot a date with me, are you cracy !' because i read that's a thing, that they bring others to dates.
On the other hand someone here (page 26 of reading this philippines thread) wrote about the brought person going out of the way over the course of the evening to give you 2time privacy, or that they even set him up for cuter friends of them. Guess i won't do that.

My father worries about philippines being dangerous. Wanna use rest of 12 days now before i go there to prepare myself by reading to be smart there. (Stay in Quezon, Manila)

Regarding the bullet-scam on Manila airport (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34774899) - is this only dangerous for people who fly from Manila to somewhere or also dangerous for people who arrive from somewhere at Manila?
(I have basically never flown before, i just imagined if i arrive at Manila i get my luggage - does luggage get controlled again, i guess yes? Is there the same risk?) At the url posted there is also a picture of a station where someone 'bags' your entire luggage as a protection against the bullet scam, i guess i will search for that. My first idea was to take my own plastic wraps with me - but probably a self-made solution is bad because it gets unnecessary attention. Perhaps the european airport i depart from has also a 'plastic wrapping station' at the airport (although in europe i heard wrapped luggage will get more attention from security/customs).

Right now plan is just 'stay near my place, near the shopping centre'.. but perhaps i look for a guided tour in a group to somewhere nice.. i have not much idea, it's not my top priority

Just get your bag wrapped in plastic foil at your departing airport, shouldn't give you any problems. Or just do it at home if you are sure you don't have anything suspicious in it and you wont have to open your bag at security.

Keep your carry on back with you at all times and make sure to keep a eyes on it when going through security so nobody is able to slip anything in it.

Stop being so pessimistic man, you will be fine. I have been travelling Asia for 6 years now and nothing ever happened to me, just use common sense.

Post: #2248

Location: cebu city

Moved to an expensive hotel, paying with points. Sitting here by the pool, sipping San Miguel premium brew.

Had a repeat bang come over for a nice bj and boom boom session. She asked too many questions about me bringing other girls, and finally after the bang I told her that I brought one before and had sex (actually 6). Also told her that it wasn't cheating because we're not in a committed relationship. She got upset and left.

Thing is, you can't please girls in the long term no matter what you do. When I was in my longest term relationship a few years ago, I never cheated on that girl, yet she was unhappy and cheated on me, perhaps more than with one guy. Now I'm being honest, kind of, and this one isn't happy either even though she was the one who asked about it.

Don't trust girls, trust your dick. Dick ia simple and honest. It either gets hard or it doesn't

Also, it seems like I've had too much sex recently and don't even want to put too much effort anymore.

Have a couple of coldish prospects tonight but don't know if I want to pursue. Another thing is, it's a high end hotel with rich people and professional staff, so I can't just bring an average slut here and be the laughing stock. This may be a good thing though.

Post: #2249

I was going to post something sympathetic to women, but then I realized that if a woman wants a relationship, she should without sex until she at least feels the guy has something more than a passing interest in her.

Will some guys balk? Absolutely. But better to filter them out.

It's kinda like how we tell guys to withhold commitment, and displays of it. Some girls will balk, but better to filter them out.

Despite the above, can guys and girls get hurt in an LTR? Absolutely. I figure enter one if you want, but be realistic about it, and definitely don't tie too much of your identity to it.

Post: #2250

(12-01-2015 07:59 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  But the guys here just literally have no game, its quite amusing to see them "court a girl" for months end without even getting any action.

I mean really? And this drives girls nuts, after all everyone has to have fun.

Just nailed a very solid 6 (I'm real harsh on ratings) probably more like a 7 with her very attractive face, and she tells me all these stories of guys trying to court her. The lack of game here by the filipino guys again makes it so, so easy if your decent looking in shape young guy to clean up.

Hilarious. Are we in the same Philippines?

You're telling me that in a country where you can meet a broke ass taxi driver who has two wives and a couple girlfriends that the guys have "no game?"

You really shouldn't believe everything these broads tell you about local men. Women throwing local men under the bus for some foreign pete (or cash or escape or whatever) is as old as history.

I've made friends with local guys that are absolutely murdering it, teen pregnancy rates are out of this world, and women are running for the borders partly because they can't possibly hope to keep a local man faithful...

But yeah, local guys have zero game...

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling