(12-02-2015 05:49 AM)Putin Closes Wrote: (12-02-2015 05:19 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote: (12-01-2015 07:59 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: But the guys here just literally have no game, its quite amusing to see them "court a girl" for months end without even getting any action.
I mean really? And this drives girls nuts, after all everyone has to have fun.
Just nailed a very solid 6 (I'm real harsh on ratings) probably more like a 7 with her very attractive face, and she tells me all these stories of guys trying to court her. The lack of game here by the filipino guys again makes it so, so easy if your decent looking in shape young guy to clean up.
Hilarious. Are we in the same Philippines?
You're telling me that in a country where you can meet a broke ass taxi driver who has two wives and a couple girlfriends that the guys have "no game?"
You really shouldn't believe everything these broads tell you about local men. Women throwing local men under the bus for some foreign pete (or cash or escape or whatever) is as old as history.
I've made friends with local guys that are absolutely murdering it, teen pregnancy rates are out of this world, and women are running for the borders partly because they can't possibly hope to keep a local man faithful...
But yeah, local guys have zero game... 
And how's the quality? Yes the upper middle class guys have zero game. The street hustlers of course are completely different animal on a completely different social spectrum. Like I said completely different world when your talking about the top 10%. They treat the 90% like shit, which is quite ridiculous coming from the US.
Literally: Oh, that place is for not our type of people. Oh that place is a bit unsafe or "crowded". Or those kind of people do that. Gets a bit annoying. I don't mind mingling with the "ordinary folks" if it means getting better food at a cheaper price.
You will NEVER see a 90% ever come close to a 10%. Even if he is manny pacqiao. He bought a home in Forbes Park and the HOA decided to pass different rules to kick his ass out.
I know cause I've seen them in action countless times, especially the guys I work with. They have absolutely ZERO game whatsoever. I mean literally their definition of dating is buying their crush gifts for months on end and cheesy shit found in a disney movie.
The end result is the same. If your young and good looking, pull decent tail back home but deal with lots of bs to do so, coming here for a month and going straight tinder works wonders. I love mixed girls, this place is chalkful of them.
For the guys who cant use tinder, I found out the problem. The solution is you need to download a DNS changer and change it to Google's DNS. Fixed any issues logging in.
Yes, the quality for a taxi driver is low, clearly. That's not because a lack of "game," as you and I know it - this shouldn't even need a mention, but it's because for a large part in this country, game and status equals money, so let's not get it twisted by thinking that means taxi drivers have no game. I mean, now white guys have game because we have access too a higher subset of the population?
What are we really talking about here? Local guys have no game? Or the majority of local guys have no access because of the majority's economic position?? That's not the same as not having game.
And maybe their game doesn't resemble ours; that's because this isn't our culture, and game is something else entirely. I'm way more accomodating with a half-proper Thai girl, for example, than I would ever be with an American gal - that's cultural adjustment. Of course, most Thai birds I've dated hadn't dated white guys before so I probably adjust more than a lot of guys on the forum.
Anyways, you've been here a lot longer than me, at least in this particular country, but I will say that I've heard this same "no game" sentiment about Thai guys, and Cambodian guys, and Laotian guys. And having run with cats from all these backgrounds, I can personally say it is generally a small slice of the story.
I've learned and adjusted plenty of local game over the years from these guys, and there are enough who can run circles around me that I think that's a very blanket generalization.
(12-02-2015 07:41 AM)YardDog Wrote: This game/no game is a false dichotomy.
There's no doubt many Filipino men game girls like crazy, especially those with any kind of power.
I dated a rich girl whose Dad had 2 GFs and the family knew about it and everyone just accepted it, including the wife.
On the other hand what Putin is talking is real, especially among the upper classes. It's one of the reason it's hard to get a hot girl at place like the Palace because these guys are lavishing girls with all sorts of shit. Provider game and beta bux is thriving here.
I've had MANY girls complain about this type of beta behavior and tell me they prefer a more direct man. A 'man' in the classic Western sense.
I know some guys here think that local girls just like us for cash, WGF, or whatever, but the fact is many girls prefer a 'man' as we think of it. I've been here long enough to see this time and time again.
This is a country where the top 10-30% (could be more because it really has to do with how much help they grew up with) of men in terms of wealth don't even know how to use a screwdriver. They can't change a tire, fix anything or beat someone's ass either. The grew up with helpers to do everything.
And Putin is right about the 10% not touching or communicating with the 90%. There's virtual no crossover or mixing and richer girls simply refer to Filipinos as 'the masses'.
But there are also many street smart mofos here that run all sort of game in everything from local biz, girls, etc. These guys hustle, grew up learning how to do some shit, and are more like 'guys' as we think of them. But even when they game girls it's a bit different than our more direct style.
And if we talk about the lower 25% of the society it has a thriving ghetto culture with loads of guys running all sorts of dirty game.
I don't know, maybe we should also give Putin the benefit of the doubt here (you're not a troll right, dude? lol). He is living and working here among locals.
yes, the part in bold is the key.
I don't think it's so much that he's wrong or trolling, but I think the statement was lacking serious perspective, and I agree the dichotomy is false - he's the one who made it to begin with by saying local guys had no game.
By lacking perspective, I mean this. What does it mean from men of any race or culture to "have" game?
It's always going to be a minority.
If you go to the trailer park where I grew up, does every guy in the neighborhood have game? Or even the majority of them? That's a big hell no.
If you work an office job stateside, does every guy in the office have "game"? I've never had the misfortune of working an office job stateside, but from what I hear, that's a big hell no (interestingly enough, these guys would have game suddenly if they moved to the Philippines and hopped on Tinder...).
I've worked jobs in many other capacities in the U.S., though - sometimes what you would consider "alpha" work environments (lol at that fucking word) - and from what I remember the majority of those guys acted like I'd won some kind of lottery every time a halfway decent chick popped in to see me. Because they themselves rarely got laid and dated low quality women.
Does this mean that the American guys "don't have no game"?
Game is never something that belongs to the entire population, and it's always a minority of men banging the women.
We all know that rich Filipino guys are hitting pussy like Babe Ruth knocking balls in a 30mph batting cage.
We admit there are plenty of street hustlers slamming tush left and right, someone's getting all these birds pregnant and leaving them to fend for their own (and I would argue the vast majority of women are still getting fucked by locals rather than white guys). There are plenty of local girls from the provinces keeping their legs closed, but there's also an increasing number fucking like rabbits.
So where does this leave us? A still rather small growing sector of the population called the middle class that's supposedly lacking game so much as to say local guys have no game? Even if that were true, and I'm dubious that there aren't plenty enough holding their own to make it a false dichotomy, like anywhere, that leaves a damn lot of the population to contend with, and clearly someone is doing all the banging.
It's also safe to say, I'm sure, that a lot of these middle class guys a) have pressure from family to find a good girls, and b) know the difference between an easy slut on Tinder and a keeper. Again, that's culture. These guys have been sheltered most of their lives and coddled by their parents, I would guess, because they are walking that fine line and expected to continue the uphill climb before their family has a chance to lose ground.
Also, there's a reason guys from the forum keep banging the same girls in these hotspot destinations. You can grab any guy's phone that has Tinder on it and most of the time he's got some of the same matches that you do. So is it really fair to say we just have stronger "game"?
This city ain't that small, so clearly most white boys are fishing from the same pond, and so I think pushing our chests out and strutting around talking about local guys having no game like our dick just grew golden wings is a little bit silly.
These Asian cultures are damn complex, and there's clearly a lot of fucking going on already, no matter which way you swing it - we're not coming here and teaching them how that's done, by any means.
Another thing I've noticed is that there is also a phenomenon of wives with multiple husbands (or at least lovers) behind the scenes here (lower classes). I've had several guys tell me this. And I've had multiple local people tell me, both men and women, that when a Filipino has a boyfriend or girlfriend, that's not enough to stop them from "exploring other options" like it is with a Westerner. They acted like this was no big deal and I shouldn't sweat it. After all, dating's not marriage, right?
Given that dating now often means screwing here like in the West, that says a lot about what's really going on, and it suggest that it's most certainly not us settting the rules of the game.
So, I'm still new here, but it's at least worth considering that an increasing number of Filipino people might just like to fuck. Sure, that's probably still a subset (there are plenty of proper girls still, of course), but I'm sure a lot of those girls on Tinder are a part of it.
Let's just not get ahead of ourselves here with thinking we've got it figured out more than people who've been here their whole lives is all I'm saying. In every society on Earth, guys are working the system and making things happen and getting their balls licked - it just happens in a variety of different formats is all.
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