Post: #126

Paige Vanzant is way better looking

Post: #127

^^^ dam wb

Post: #128

(08-02-2015 03:12 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  I can't believe there are guys here who root for her. They should just straight up be banned. If there was ever something more gay or feminist I couldn't describe it. Rooting for Ronda Rousey or wanting her to do well is the gayest, most feminist thing you could possibly do as a man.

Chill keyboard Alpha, some of us just enjoy watching the UFC. Don't go giving yourself a heart attack.

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(08-02-2015 02:35 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 03:12 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  I can't believe there are guys here who root for her. They should just straight up be banned. If there was ever something more gay or feminist I couldn't describe it. Rooting for Ronda Rousey or wanting her to do well is the gayest, most feminist thing you could possibly do as a man.

Chill keyboard Alpha, some of us just enjoy watching the UFC. Don't go giving yourself a heart attack.

I was very very drunk last night. I reported that post to get it deleted as I couldn't edit it myself. Felt stupid about it when I saw it this afternoon. Watching UFC is fine, the love in with Rousey last night just hit a nerve I guess. Apologies.

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Post: #131

If we are talking hot MMA female fighters lets not forget former Kansas City Chiefs cheerleader turned fighter Rachel Wray...

Post: #132

People talking about her "world class boxing" on my Facebook lol.

That was 34 seconds of proof that Floyd would knock her out in five seconds. Did you see how many punches she took getting into the clinch against a girl who isn't a good striker?

Here is an actual female world class striker, a way overused term that I hate, against a mediocre male.






Maybe this was already posted, I didnt check.

Post: #133

Ah i'm sick of people worshipping her on facebook.. I don't even see anyone posting about men fighters anymore just all this bullshit about Roussey.

Even had one idiot like "Roussey marry me" and all these other guys like "no she's mine". Fuck I seen her on ultimate fighter, she's an aggressive bitch who I couldn't stand being near for 5 minutes. Yes to be honest i'd probably bang her because her body isn't bad but it would end there.

Post: #134

(07-28-2015 04:33 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

(07-28-2015 04:25 PM)whoishe Wrote:  I am quite surprised with some kind of fascination of strongman's strength being useful in real fight and on top of it against some skilled opponents showed here. Especially that high level poster like TravelerKai is pushing it.

There is someone like Mariusz Pudziankowski, probably one of the most decorated strongman's in recent history. In 2009 he made a transition to MMA and quickly found out that his conditioning is nowhere near enough to survive more than 1 minute and his strongman's strength is quite useless, especially after opponents survive his haymakers in 1st minute.

His overall record looks good, but 5 years later he still is fighting mostly poor opponents. And some of his wins in Poland were highly controversial (especially one against Kawaguchi and one against Thompson). He made some progress, but most important fact was that he lost significan amount of weight (around 25-35 kg, big part of it had to be muscle mass too).

I think when you take rules into account that is one thing, but as has been said, bare fisted in a bar, the sheer physicality of these guys would be hard to overcome. MMA gloves limit the ability to grip, one of a strongman's primary assets. These guys are literally strong enough just to twist most human necks in a circle till they break, or grab a forearm and snap it in two. Gloves, a referee, and rules create an environment that favours a fighter over the strongman. For all that gets said about MMA being close to 'da streetz', the reality is that it is a very very long way from an anything goes matchup, and many of the rules neutralise the very real areas these monstrous strongmen excel in, that are game changers in a real situation, when all that matters is winning by any means.

A fighter is a fighter, that's his life, he is used to take kicks and punches to the head, sleep on chokeholds and broken limbs. He has the agressiveness, the instinct, and the fighting skill set, do not get fooled by the rules in MMA, the gloves and the referees, we see some nasty and frightening knockouts and submissions in amateur fights. It takes balls and some craziness to get into an octagon or a ring and fight literally for survival with another guy. People die in MMA and Boxing, I do not remember anyone dying in a strongman contest.

A strongman becomes less strong after each punch. And remember that lifting does not give strenght to the jaw, nor it does give agressiveness in a fighting situation.
I think any strongman without a martial training, is an easy prey for any professional fighter, in any situation.

Post: #135

In real life like a bar situation, a smaller but more talented fighter won't have as much room to move around as he would in the cage. This gives the bigger strongman a huge advantage that he wouldn't have in the ring. Even thrown improperly, one punch from one of these strongmen can still knock you out. Without much room to dodge, this puts the trained fighter at a severe disadvantage.

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In a bar brawl anything can happen if you take all factors in consideration. Who throws the first punch, who has a chair more in handy, who has more friends, who has a bottleneck, who has a knife, who has a gun...taking this into consideration, even an untrained small guy can beat a strongman.

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(08-04-2015 07:41 PM)Repo Wrote:  In real life like a bar situation, a smaller but more talented fighter won't have as much room to move around as he would in the cage. This gives the bigger strongman a huge advantage that he wouldn't have in the ring. Even thrown improperly, one punch from one of these strongmen can still knock you out. Without much room to dodge, this puts the trained fighter at a severe disadvantage.

This reminded me of something else a teacher of mine said a few months ago.

The guy is probably a good 10+ kilos lighter than I am but recently won a national shoot boxing championship. The guy is fast and strong and when the mats are open dances circles around me while I try to close the distance. On one occasion when the mats weren't so open, and wanting to take advantage of that fact, I kept pressuring him into areas with nowhere to run. Of course he instantly noticed that and commented, "oi oi I can't run away over here" in a half joking manner.

While the trained fighters won't be at an absolute loss against a larger guy in a smaller space, it definitely reduces the number of factors they're able to take advantage of.

Post: #138

I agree with your last statement Rocha. Which is also why I disagree with your statement "I think any strongman without a martial training, is an easy prey for any professional fighter, in any situation."

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You are right that any situation is a different situation. And not underestimating the superhuman strenght of these guys, but my main point is that fighting is
more than that, specially in a survival mode situation (no rules against fish-hooking, eye-gouging, kick in the groin, etc)..., where I think agression is normally the deciding factor, and the fighter should have it more.

Post: #140

Well, looks like someone in the MSM has decided to point out the lack of clothing worn by the Emperor:

Quote:Slack also weighed into the debate over whether or not Rousey was capable of defeating a man.

His conclusion: “She’d get lit up.”

“The truth is that not only is there the usual strength and athleticism divide between the male and female divisions of the sport, the technical proficiency in women’s MMA is, for now, considerably lower,” Slack added.
“Put Rousey in with a top 25 fighter in any male division and she’d get lit up. Even if she carried her same brilliance into a clinch with stronger individuals, she only has one way of getting there, running straight forwards and eating blows.”

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/wushu-wat...versus-men

Quote:The world picked a strange week to grab on to Ronda Rousey and embrace her as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Beating a more than ten-to-one underdog whose UFC opponents have a combined record of 1-7 in the promotion, Rousey's performance told us absolutely nothing new. Smashing Cat Zingano in less time than it takes to say her name, or showing the savvy to develop her clinch striking game in order to flatten fellow Olympian, Sara McMann—now that was really something. Bethe Correia? Not so much.

One of the angles that the internet has come to love is the “that's what you get for talking shit” narrative. Gifs and videos of Bethe Correia shouting in Rousey's face at the weigh ins and then face planting along the fence flooded Reddit and the masses reveled in it. As if getting laid out in thirty seconds by a vastly superior fighter wouldn't have happened if Correia hadn't produced the drama. It's perfect, it appeals to the bullied child in all of us.

And for some finishing hits:

Quote:Technique overcoming strength only happens if you know something the other guy doesn't. If you plan to eat punches to get to a clinch, that ain't some Helio Gracie, reinventing-the-wheel level genius.

Here's the crux of the issue: it's not sexist to acknowledge that in the vast majority of athletic pursuits, female athletes are at a disadvantage when matched directly against male ones. Those who are actually for equality in sports are those who are willing to watch both men and women without the need to go through daft cross-sex, cross-weight hypotheticals to make it interesting. But then, no knowledgeable fan of tennis or athletics is pretending that Serena Williams or Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce could go head-to-head with their male counterparts and win. I suspect that the widespread ignorance of how fighting actually works is responsible for popularity of the Rousey versus men question.

Post: #141

(08-05-2015 08:45 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Quote:“The truth is that not only is there the usual strength and athleticism divide between the male and female divisions of the sport, the technical proficiency in women’s MMA is, for now, considerably lower,” Slack added.
“Put Rousey in with a top 25 fighter in any male division and she’d get lit up. Even if she carried her same brilliance into a clinch with stronger individuals, she only has one way of getting there, running straight forwards and eating blows.”

That's perhaps an unintended and indirect, but grave insult (cue A Few Good Men: "Is there any other kind?") to male fighters #26 to #26,000.

The more physical the sport, the more "top tier" female athletes get crushed by amateur men and teenage boys, much less professional men. And fighting is up there in terms of physicality, to say the least.

Post: #142

Rousey gets shitted on by female boxers:

'Stay in your lane': Why Ronda Rousey wouldn't last long in women's boxing

Quote:Ronda Rousey demonstrated once more this past Saturday that she is without peer in the Ultimate Fighting Championship’s bantamweight division. Rousey finished Bethe Correia in just 34 seconds at UFC 190, using not an armbar submission – her trademark coup de grâce that finished nine of her previous 11 bouts – but the standup punching which had widely been perceived of as one of the weaker facets of her game.

Unexpectedly, Rousey charged at the previously unbeaten Brazilian, who many thought would have the advantage if they stood up and traded blows. A right hand behind the ear sent Correia face first onto the octagon. And that was that.

Rousey’s last three bouts have lasted a combined 64 seconds, capturing the attention – and imaginations – of the mainstream public.

And how those imaginations have run wild regarding the 28-year-old from Riverside, California. Some have likened her fierce approach to combat to Mike Tyson during the 80s: how she snarls and glares and intimidates opponents, psyching them out before the opening bell even sounds.

The 2008 Olympic judo bronze medalist has had to fight past the first round just once in 12 outings. Her string of early victories since turning professional in 2011 have cultivated an aura of invincibility. With a talent pool struggling to keep up with demand for credible opponents – she is set to face Meisha Tate for a third time next – it seems only age or complacency can one day end her streak.

But while Rousey is universally respected for her skills in mixed martial arts, her boxing coach Edmond Tarverdyan has prompted sideeye from the women’s boxing community after saying that Rousey’s hand skills could earn her a boxing championship if she wanted.

“I know she wins the boxing world title,” Tarverdyan told MMAFighting.com. “Ronda has nothing to prove to me.”

Tarverdyan went on to say that Rousey has never lost a round while sparring against male boxing champions. Attempts to reach Tarverdyan for follow-up comments were unsuccessful, but the remarks have caught the attention of several female boxers who would like nothing more than to see Rousey back up her trainer’s talk.

“I think she’s just brand new at boxing,” Layla McCarter, a former lightweight and junior welterweight champion who has boxed professionally since 1998, told the Guardian this week. “She’s very good at what she does, but she needs to stay in her lane because boxing takes a lot of experience to reach the top level.

“She better just stay in her lane because she’s going to get hurt.”

Those sentiments were also echoed by former junior lightweight and lightweight champion Amanda Serrano, who said she watched the Correia fight and observed plenty of holes in Rousey’s boxing technique.

“Her movement is very bad, how she walks into punches and she would get caught,” said the Brooklyn-based Serrano, a pro since 2009.

“The girls that she’s fighting, they’ve got limited boxing skills. They rely on grappling on the floor. She fought that girl that didn’t know how to fight and she ended up with a black eye.”

Boxing and mixed martial arts are different sports which require different training methods. But that hasn’t stopped Rousey – and UFC president Dana White – from publicly exploring the hypotheticals of crossover bouts governed by MMA rules. White has said on several occasions that Rousey would defeat boxing’s biggest star Floyd Mayweather Jr in an MMA fight despite Mayweather having shown no interest in competing in that sport.

Rousey has also made repeated jibes about Mayweather’s history of domestic abuse, most recently at the ESPY Awards in July, when she, after being awarded the Fighter of the Year laurel, said of Mayweather: “I wonder how Floyd feels being beat by a woman for once.”

Though intended as acts of female empowerment and retribution through public shaming, the comments have only made the victims punch-lines of publicity stunts.

The terrain on which a fight is competed on dictates who would have the deciding advantage. With MMA, a fighter with superior grappling skills could nullify the one-dimensional punching attack of a boxer, as was the case with boxing great James Toney in his ill-advised 2010 loss to three-time UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture.

Both Serrano and McCarter fight at or near the weight that Rousey competes at and have publicly issued challenges to Rousey for boxing matches, which Rousey has not acknowledged. She did however acknowledge the statements that former super middleweight champion Laila Ali, who retired unbeaten in 2007, made to TMZ in March.

When asked if she could beat Rousey, Ali cited her size advantage – she fought at nearly 40lbs above Rousey’s weight – and said Rousey was too small to be competitive. Rousey responded that she could beat Ali even if they competed in boxing.

“I’m an Olympic athlete and I would take time to focus on that entirely, but if I could go from judo to MMA, why couldn’t I go from MMA to boxing?” Rousey said. “I think that having that kind of belief in yourself is important to be the kind of level I’m trying to be.”

White unsurprisingly was only interested in discussing the fight in an MMA cage, while Ali reiterated that she is retired and has been for nearly a decade.

“I know [Rousey competing in boxing] would be a disaster for her and I know Dana White would never let that happen,” McCarter said. “They need to keep her invincible.”

Not much footage of Rousey’s boxing training at the Glendale Fight Club in Southern California is public beyond a 2013 sparring session with Vic Darchinyan, a former boxing champion in the 112 and 115lb divisions. The edited footage shows Darchinyan pulling punches but landing the majority of his attempts from awkward angles, after which Rousey emerges with a face noticeably red from impact.





The video makes it hard to imagine she’d offer much of a challenge against the likes of Cecilia Brækhus, Ana Julaton or Erica Anabella Farias, women who have spent the better part of their whole lives plying their craft. Allowing that confidence verging on arrogance is typical of many high-level athletes, it seems almost insulting to suggest otherwise.

“You were able to see that her boxing skills weren’t there,” critiqued Serrano. “He was throwing stupid punches and catching her. Her movement, her whole body mechanics weren’t there. Her hands were down, she was doing something with her elbow, at one point she was trying to be like Mayweather. It just wasn’t put together right. It wasn’t how a boxer is supposed to look.

“In fact, they made a mistake putting it up. I don’t know how the trainer Edmond says she’s never lost a round in the gym. Even the best of the best lose in the gym. From what I seen in that sparring session with Victor, she lost every round.”

If there’s common ground that women in both sports can understand, it’s the fight for acceptance in male-dominated sports.

Before Rousey joined the UFC in 2012, women’s MMA was in a similar state to that of women’s boxing in the mid-90s. Women’s boxing showed promise when Christy Martin, a coal miner’s daughter from West Virginia, stole the show on Tyson’s post-prison undercards, making it to the front cover of the 15 April 1996 issue of Sports Illustrated.

But while boxing wound up dropping the ball on its female ranks, and television networks and promoters alike abandoned the sport, the UFC has turned Rousey into MMA’s biggest star, and she’s reaped the benefits with appearances in films like Entourage and The Expendables 3, plus an appearance at the latest WrestleMania alongside Furious 7 co-star Dwayne Johnson. She also landed an SI cover of her own, which dubbed her the world’s most dominant athlete.

“Dana White showed something important, that all it took was him to give women a chance to be seen, and look what she did,” said McCarter, who last competed in Big Knockout Boxing, a hybrid boxing league fought in a pit without ropes, in April. “She wowed them. Some of these boxing promoters are not even willing to give these women a chance to showcase, to be featured on these shows.

“So how can they be seen or gain an audience? [Boxing promoters] could definitely take some lessons from Ronda Rousey and the UFC.”

If Rousey is looking for a challenge, she’d only have to look towards Invicta female featherweight (145lb) champion Cris ‘Cyborg’ Justino, who has for years sought a fight with Rousey. Squabbles over weight – Rousey wants Justino to drop 10 pounds to bantamweight – and Rousey’s repeated taunts over Justino’s 2011 positive steroid test have cooled hopes for that bout for the time being.

But should Rousey feel the urge to try her luck in another combat sport, there’d be a line around the corner welcoming her with open gloves.

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This guy sums it up pretty well

Post: #144

(07-27-2015 05:27 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  I know a British, World Kickboxing Champion and his kickboxing buddies who in the 90s decided to kick off with a bunch of WWF wrestlers in a bar in my city.

The wrestlers won decisively. It was an embarrassing time for an otherwise excellent, top level fighter and his stable.

Not because they were good fighters; because they were 100lbs heavier, probably 6"+ taller and most likely 4 times as strong as KB boy and his mates.


Some of these Strongman types can be 6'7" upwards and over 300lbs. The problem for a striker is just not getting bear hugged and crushed. Simple as that. A lot of this comes down to the fight environment.

Taking a punch off someone that big could kill you (seriously, no matter who you are).

I reckon a good, punchy middleweight would have the power to put most of these guys to sleep, though, if he connected right.

There's a reason we have weight classes in all fightsports.

Here's some more info about the incident:

Now that's a big fight out

Quote:BOOZED-UP kickboxers fought an unscheduled bout with American telly wrestlers — in a posh hotel lobby.

Terrified guests dived for cover as the fighters squared up after a martial arts show, sending feet, fists and glasses flying.

They watched amazed as the boxers lashed out with a flurry of acrobatic spinning kicks and punches, while the touring grapplers hurled their opponents around the reception hall.

Ex-world kickboxing champ Kash “The Flash” Gill — 6ft 3in and 11st 6lb — claimed he was dragged around in a headlock by 22st, 6ft 5in wrestler Dave “Demon of the Deep” Bautista, 36.

One boxer was thrown over a table full of drinks and another over a baggage trolley before the row spilled outside.

A car park security barrier was smashed before police broke up Sunday’s midnight fight at the Hilton Hotel at Birmingham’s NEC complex.

The punch-up followed a kickboxing exhibition match for 500 guests, organised by 37-year-old Kash.

He said: “It had been a great night, but one of our tables was a bit rowdy after having too much to drink. In reception one of our blokes accidentally bumped into one wrestler and said sorry straight away. “The wrestler said, ‘You will be’ and it all kicked off. The wrestlers were all giants and three of them had one of our blokes on the floor.

“I ran out to try to calm things down, but next thing I knew one wrestler had me in an armlock and was throwing me around like a doll.

“Somone told him I was a kickboxing champ and he backed off. But it was quite nasty with a couple of bloody noses and ripped shirts and T-shirts all over the lobby.

“It was probably the boozers on our side who started it, but the wrestlers didn’t use their strengths in a professional way and were out of order.”

One hotel worker said: “It was mayhem for about 15 minutes. The boxers were saying wrestling was fake and that the big guys couldn’t fight — so they just grabbed them.”

A World Wrestling Entertainment spokesman said: “Our guys were checking in when the boxers began making remarks. They weren’t happy.”

Police confirmed officers were sent. A spokesman said: “We sorted it out without any arrests.”

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(08-06-2015 01:19 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 05:27 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  I know a British, World Kickboxing Champion and his kickboxing buddies who in the 90s decided to kick off with a bunch of WWF wrestlers in a bar in my city.

The wrestlers won decisively. It was an embarrassing time for an otherwise excellent, top level fighter and his stable.

Not because they were good fighters; because they were 100lbs heavier, probably 6"+ taller and most likely 4 times as strong as KB boy and his mates.


Some of these Strongman types can be 6'7" upwards and over 300lbs. The problem for a striker is just not getting bear hugged and crushed. Simple as that. A lot of this comes down to the fight environment.

Taking a punch off someone that big could kill you (seriously, no matter who you are).

I reckon a good, punchy middleweight would have the power to put most of these guys to sleep, though, if he connected right.

There's a reason we have weight classes in all fightsports.

Here's some more info about the incident:

Now that's a big fight out

Quote:BOOZED-UP kickboxers fought an unscheduled bout with American telly wrestlers — in a posh hotel lobby.

Terrified guests dived for cover as the fighters squared up after a martial arts show, sending feet, fists and glasses flying.

They watched amazed as the boxers lashed out with a flurry of acrobatic spinning kicks and punches, while the touring grapplers hurled their opponents around the reception hall.

Ex-world kickboxing champ Kash “The Flash” Gill — 6ft 3in and 11st 6lb — claimed he was dragged around in a headlock by 22st, 6ft 5in wrestler Dave “Demon of the Deep” Bautista, 36.

One boxer was thrown over a table full of drinks and another over a baggage trolley before the row spilled outside.

A car park security barrier was smashed before police broke up Sunday’s midnight fight at the Hilton Hotel at Birmingham’s NEC complex.

The punch-up followed a kickboxing exhibition match for 500 guests, organised by 37-year-old Kash.

He said: “It had been a great night, but one of our tables was a bit rowdy after having too much to drink. In reception one of our blokes accidentally bumped into one wrestler and said sorry straight away. “The wrestler said, ‘You will be’ and it all kicked off. The wrestlers were all giants and three of them had one of our blokes on the floor.

“I ran out to try to calm things down, but next thing I knew one wrestler had me in an armlock and was throwing me around like a doll.

“Somone told him I was a kickboxing champ and he backed off. But it was quite nasty with a couple of bloody noses and ripped shirts and T-shirts all over the lobby.

“It was probably the boozers on our side who started it, but the wrestlers didn’t use their strengths in a professional way and were out of order.”

One hotel worker said: “It was mayhem for about 15 minutes. The boxers were saying wrestling was fake and that the big guys couldn’t fight — so they just grabbed them.”

A World Wrestling Entertainment spokesman said: “Our guys were checking in when the boxers began making remarks. They weren’t happy.”

Police confirmed officers were sent. A spokesman said: “We sorted it out without any arrests.”

^^^ this is a perfect illustration. I was a boxer myself (not a particularly small one at 6'1 190lbs), a soldier, and I come from a family of top boxers, who branched out into other martial fields for their professions. My whole upbringing, and much of my personal identity is based on being a fighter, and what that means. I'm also not a total novice with strength training for performance, and am close to competitive numbers for the lightweight strongman division.

Noone would like for it to be true more than me that a trained fighter whups a 300lbs strongman, but I don't think it is so clear cut as Rocha suggests. Much as anything, I think you underestimate how aggressive, focused, and tough these guys have to be to move the tendon tearing weights they are lifting. I've personally shared the ring more times than I can remember with guys who outweighed me by 50+lbs (as anyone who's done amateur boxing in the higher weightclasses has probably also experienced, with 'big enough' sparring partners in short supply). I think many people underestimate how significant that 50lbs can be on an averagely gifted fighter. Make it 100lbs on a guy built like Halfthor Bjornson (sp?), who is also a genetic specimen, and I'd be picking up the biggest, pointiest weapon I could find. You may know how to punch, you may know how to move, but if you break your hand on his dense jaw, or he has the reach to grab your throat before you can connect, and the strength to crush anything his hand connects with, then that can make up for a hell of a lot of skill and technique, especially in tight places.

I'd like to talk more about it, as I've spent much of my adult life studying, and training for violence, but on an open forum it pays to be circumspect. Suffice to say, the fighter in me would always back myself, but the rationalist recognises that certain genetic disparities require a degree of cunning or force escalation to overcome.

Post: #146

http://time.com/3992234/ronda-rousey-flo...ather-ama/

I really need to find a way for all mentions of "Rousey" to be straight up blocked from my browser or I'm going to end up banned from every site I visit.

Post: #147

(08-11-2015 12:30 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  http://time.com/3992234/ronda-rousey-flo...ather-ama/

I really need to find a way for all mentions of "Rousey" to be straight up blocked from my browser or I'm going to end up banned from every site I visit.

Post: #148

I know.

You know what's going to happen now? Someone is going to ask Rousey about the Roosh situation in Canada and that's just going to make it even worse.

Post: #149

She would say she could beat Rooshs ass.... it seems to be what she says about everybody haha

(08-11-2015 12:36 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  I know.

You know what's going to happen now? Someone is going to ask Rousey about the Roosh situation in Canada and that's just going to make it even worse.

Post: #150

She did an AMA on reddit today. Here's a direct quote from her:

"In a no rules fight, I believe I can beat anyone on this planet."

She is completely deluded. She would be absolutely annihilated by every single male fighter on the UFC roster, including the lowest ranked fighters in the Flyweight division.
Obviously the top male fighters would destroy her very quickly but even the smallest and worst 125lb male fighters would completely dominate her.

It reminds me of the arrogance the Williams sisters had back in the day, claiming they could beat any pro male player not ranked in the top 200. Along came a challenger to put them in their place, ranked outside the top 200, and destroyed them both after getting drunk the night before and playing a round of golf that morning. Pretty sure they shut up for good after that point.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3...ma/ctykpp2