(11-12-2018 06:56 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote: Ron Unz had an interesting article up today where he basically argued that the Wall is a red herring because most of the immigration is legal.
(11-13-2018 09:09 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote: This trend does not bode well for legit immigrants who came in before the DNC and the Chamber of Commerce put so many regulatory exceptions and holes in the fence. I would be a bit pissed were I one who came in 15-20+ years ago and have to witness the expressways that have been created since.
(11-13-2018 02:12 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:(11-13-2018 11:53 AM)The Black Knight Wrote: Fuckin Bezos... I literally said out loud, ""You son of a bitch!", when I read following:
Quote:Amazon.com Inc. plans to make Nashville the home of a new East Coast operations hub, the company announced today.
Located in downtown Nashville, the hub will employ 5,000 workers within seven years, earning an average of $150,000 a year. At that headcount, Amazon will become downtown's largest private employer — two-and-a-half times the size of Bridgestone and HCA Healthcare Inc. (NYSE: HCA), which currently hold that designation.
In its Nov. 13 announcement, Amazon said it will invest $230 million and occupy 1 million square feet of office space.
Source: https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/ne...ville.html
While Nashville is already pretty blue voting wise, this sort of move is going to signal to all types of tech/libtard/coastal folk to move there. Nashville was already on its way in becoming the next Austin and this just accelerated the timeline big time.
Why is this in the Trump thread?
Tennessee as a whole is pro-Trump TODAY but maybe not forever.
Like how Texas and many former GOP strongholds are tilting purple/blue due to the tech/coastal/libtard invaders who want to escape the actions of their bad values (but not change their values), this move by Bezos is going to put Tennessee potentially in play for senate and house seats in 2022 and maybe even at the Presidential level in 2024 or 2028. It will probably be a slow burn on the voting trends like Texas but this event is still not a good thing nonetheless.
That said, I really wish these dipshits would stay in their own backyard and stop taking advantage of nice low tax affordable places that conservatives built and turning them into expensive liberal dumps. Too bad US states can't restrict movement of people between states based on party affiliation and duration (i.e. you're a lifelong democrat from California? Sorry, you can't move here).
I'm from Tennessee. This is def. great for jobs in TN obviously. If anything having more jobs come should encourage the state to continue the no state income tax and conservative politics.
The only thing that's gonna mess it up is if the demographics change substantially. It doesn't matter how successful the economy is if you bring a lot of socialists they will want to change it.
I'd much rather have the jobs go to a red state than many other places that they could be going.
(11-13-2018 10:01 PM)Aquarius Wrote: In a perfect world, these jobs would go to local Tennesseeans and Make Tennessee Great Again. In the real world, jobs like Amazon, Alliance Bernstein, or Ernst and Young wouldn't benefit Tennessseans much, if at all, as these jobs will simply go to jobs-chasing transplants. Instead of embracing Tennessee, they will turn Tennessee into whatever liberal dump they come from.
Keep in mind Nashville is the home of country music, one of the biggest pop culture areas that conservatives still at least have a voice in. And Nashville is probably the biggest city with good career opportunities that are conservative-friendly and still have noticeable southern culture throughout.
We all saw how first Virginia, then North Carolina, and now Georgia and Texas, become purple due to their main economic engines turning deep blue and colonized by both white liberals and immigrants. Now that Nashville is officially on the map for the white liberal crowd, Tennessee is all but gone as yet another transplant-heavy "New South" state, especially since Chattanooga and Knoxville are also very palatable cities for the liberal cancer to expand to once they turn Nashville into a Portland/Austin type base. Add South Carolina to the mix of future "New South" states too now that Charleston and to a lesser extent Greenville are becoming hot.
What does the South have left if these states become purple? Just Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi? Conservatives/nationalists might as well raise the white flag in America if pretty much every single state containing major cities turn purple or deep blue. Once TN officially becomes the next GA or NC, Alabama will end up being the next Tennessee, especially Huntsville, Mobile, and Birmingham all have the potential to be palatable for liberal tastes.
I'm expecting by 2030, Williamson, Rutherford, and perhaps Wilson counties turn purple if not blue (Davidson is already blue and will only get bluer), country music no longer defining or even playing a big role in Nashville, and the southern accent or even the old money southern crowd to all but die out anywhere in the metro area.
Sad! Because snarky liberal hipster chicks will replace the hot blondes that Nashville has (soon to be had) a lot of.
(11-14-2018 08:59 AM)The Black Knight Wrote: Snip
(11-14-2018 09:17 AM)Number one bummer Wrote: If anyone wants a laugh just read "Tucker Carlson agrees with Alexandria Cortez."
Cortez is arguing against the crony corporatism of letting Amazon take over Long Island City. Her arguments are:
-Won't hire locals
-Changes demographics
-Not healthy development
-Why does the world's richest guy need 2 billion in free money
Sounds like she is scared the district will lose minority voters to a demographic slightly less favorable to her. Pretty much the same arguments the forum has posted above but from the other side.
(11-14-2018 09:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote: Can you imagine in 10-15 years the potential infighting Mexicans, Guatemalans, Puerto Ricans, and Hondurans are going to have? Should be interesting. It won't be boring to watch that is for certain.
(11-14-2018 11:54 AM)dicknixon72 Wrote:(11-14-2018 09:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote: Can you imagine in 10-15 years the potential infighting Mexicans, Guatemalans, Puerto Ricans, and Hondurans are going to have? Should be interesting. It won't be boring to watch that is for certain.
Many Mexicans already hate Puerto Ricans and Cubans, especially here in Florida, mainly because they feel the latter are very entitled because of Commonwealth and the dry feet policy. You even see a generation gap between the older Mexicans who came here prior to the '80s - legally or otherwise - and worked hard, kept their head down, and didn't have massive government aid to leech off of and the more recent arrivals who benefit from subsidies, entitlements, etc.
(11-14-2018 08:59 AM)The Black Knight Wrote: [
This is precisely why I'm not optimistic about the US in the medium-long term unless very drastic measures are taken.
(11-14-2018 12:37 PM)Sherman Wrote:(11-14-2018 08:59 AM)The Black Knight Wrote: [
This is precisely why I'm not optimistic about the US in the medium-long term unless very drastic measures are taken.
The thing that makes me most pessimistic is that our own people have the wrong ideas and support the wrong values. For example, cheering the intervention of the US military into other countries to destroy them in order to salvage one's lost masculinity. On the North Korea thread, I encouraged peace with North Korea a full year before Trump met with Kim Jong Un, and was called a troll.
The US military has never helped the average American:
1. Iraq - A pointless trillion dollar war against Saddam Hussein, hand picked to be our friend in the Middle East, and his destruction unleashing Muslim fundamentalist political violence,
2. Vietnam - 58, 220 US fatalities. Look at Vietnam now. Productive and living their
lives peaceful the way they want too. Is anyone afraid of Vietnam now? When I was growing up, Vietnam was the great Satan, a threat to "Democracy". Do you tremble with fear at night because of those dangerous Vietnamese? Well, my generation did.
3. Korea - another pointless undeclared war due to globalist strategic policies,
4. World War II - Winston Churchill, previously rejected by the English people for being a dangerous war monger declares war on Germany and tricks America into war with the help of the socialist FDR. Also, millions of America hating communist subversives immigrate to America during this period and are put into power in American universities to produce the 60s revolution. Joe McCarthy is demonized for exposing the infiltration into the US government.
5. Civil War - The North was a society based on the individual working his own plot of land and becoming prosperous. It was a virtuous country. The exemplar of Yankee virtue was Benjamin Franklin. Not letting the South secede, meant that the North inherited all the evil of a lazy elite who couldn't work for themselves. They had a right to their own country.
6. Revolutionary War - Canada managed to be free without a war.
Look at how the Democratic Party is now demonizing Putin and Russia. Do you think this is a coincidence? The globalist elites are preparing another war with Russia and China. Also, Iran is not our enemy and could be our best friend fighting degenerates in the Middle East. They are angry and have a right to be.
Conservatives need to realize that they only real enemy that they have is the enemy within. If they don't free their minds, they will loose everything.
(11-14-2018 12:57 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote: About the only thing you have right is the Iraq War being a colossal blunder.
So much incorrect about the above historical revision(s) but I'll limit my comments to just the Vietnam Conflict....its all I have time for
Americans at home were never afraid of the Vietnamese people themselves nor was that conflict about the Vietnamese per se. It was rather about slowing the communist / socialist "wave" that was spreading via the influence of the USSR and China.
While the Vietnam conflict was ultimately lost on the ground and Vietnam itself has returned to a productive stable state, it's naive to ignore what might have happened if the US had not gotten involved. Just like in Korea (and many other conflicts) prior to and during the Cold War the message was sent; "Communism will not be allowed to spread unchallenged and without great cost".
Its easy to assume that things would have ended up the same way they did. But then being wrong about the hypothetical is usually pretty easy
(11-13-2018 10:01 PM)Aquarius Wrote:(11-13-2018 02:12 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:(11-13-2018 11:53 AM)The Black Knight Wrote: Fuckin Bezos... I literally said out loud, ""You son of a bitch!", when I read following:
Quote:Amazon.com Inc. plans to make Nashville the home of a new East Coast operations hub, the company announced today.
Located in downtown Nashville, the hub will employ 5,000 workers within seven years, earning an average of $150,000 a year. At that headcount, Amazon will become downtown's largest private employer — two-and-a-half times the size of Bridgestone and HCA Healthcare Inc. (NYSE: HCA), which currently hold that designation.
In its Nov. 13 announcement, Amazon said it will invest $230 million and occupy 1 million square feet of office space.
Source: https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/ne...ville.html
While Nashville is already pretty blue voting wise, this sort of move is going to signal to all types of tech/libtard/coastal folk to move there. Nashville was already on its way in becoming the next Austin and this just accelerated the timeline big time.
Why is this in the Trump thread?
Tennessee as a whole is pro-Trump TODAY but maybe not forever.
Like how Texas and many former GOP strongholds are tilting purple/blue due to the tech/coastal/libtard invaders who want to escape the actions of their bad values (but not change their values), this move by Bezos is going to put Tennessee potentially in play for senate and house seats in 2022 and maybe even at the Presidential level in 2024 or 2028. It will probably be a slow burn on the voting trends like Texas but this event is still not a good thing nonetheless.
That said, I really wish these dipshits would stay in their own backyard and stop taking advantage of nice low tax affordable places that conservatives built and turning them into expensive liberal dumps. Too bad US states can't restrict movement of people between states based on party affiliation and duration (i.e. you're a lifelong democrat from California? Sorry, you can't move here).
I'm from Tennessee. This is def. great for jobs in TN obviously. If anything having more jobs come should encourage the state to continue the no state income tax and conservative politics.
The only thing that's gonna mess it up is if the demographics change substantially. It doesn't matter how successful the economy is if you bring a lot of socialists they will want to change it.
I'd much rather have the jobs go to a red state than many other places that they could be going.
In a perfect world, these jobs would go to local Tennesseeans and Make Tennessee Great Again. In the real world, jobs like Amazon, Alliance Bernstein, or Ernst and Young wouldn't benefit Tennessseans much, if at all, as these jobs will simply go to jobs-chasing transplants. Instead of embracing Tennessee, they will turn Tennessee into whatever liberal dump they come from.
Keep in mind Nashville is the home of country music, one of the biggest pop culture areas that conservatives still at least have a voice in. And Nashville is probably the biggest city with good career opportunities that are conservative-friendly and still have noticeable southern culture throughout.
We all saw how first Virginia, then North Carolina, and now Georgia and Texas, become purple due to their main economic engines turning deep blue and colonized by both white liberals and immigrants. Now that Nashville is officially on the map for the white liberal crowd, Tennessee is all but gone as yet another transplant-heavy "New South" state, especially since Chattanooga and Knoxville are also very palatable cities for the liberal cancer to expand to once they turn Nashville into a Portland/Austin type base. Add South Carolina to the mix of future "New South" states too now that Charleston and to a lesser extent Greenville are becoming hot.
What does the South have left if these states become purple? Just Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi? Conservatives/nationalists might as well raise the white flag in America if pretty much every single state containing major cities turn purple or deep blue. Once TN officially becomes the next GA or NC, Alabama will end up being the next Tennessee, especially Huntsville, Mobile, and Birmingham all have the potential to be palatable for liberal tastes.
I'm expecting by 2030, Williamson, Rutherford, and perhaps Wilson counties turn purple if not blue (Davidson is already blue and will only get bluer), country music no longer defining or even playing a big role in Nashville, and the southern accent or even the old money southern crowd to all but die out anywhere in the metro area.
Sad! Because snarky liberal hipster chicks will replace the hot blondes that Nashville has (soon to be had) a lot of.
(11-14-2018 12:57 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote: About the only thing you have right is the Iraq War being a colossal blunder.
So much incorrect about the above historical revision(s) but I'll limit my comments to just the Vietnam Conflict....its all I have time for
Americans at home were never afraid of the Vietnamese people themselves nor was that conflict about the Vietnamese per se. It was rather about slowing the communist / socialist "wave" that was spreading via the influence of the USSR and China.
While the Vietnam conflict was ultimately lost on the ground and Vietnam itself has returned to a productive stable state, it's naive to ignore what might have happened if the US had not gotten involved. Just like in Korea (and many other conflicts) prior to and during the Cold War the message was sent; "Communism will not be allowed to spread unchallenged and without great cost".
Its easy to assume that things would have ended up the same way they did. But then being wrong about the hypothetical is usually pretty easy
(11-14-2018 12:24 PM)Hypno Wrote: Nashville is not conservative. Some locals call it the third coast. Music industry is big.
The rest of Tennessee is in the Bible belt.