(11-14-2018 10:47 PM)Sherman Wrote: Exactly. The part he is missing is that the real communists aren't out there, even in China. They are in America. Stalin was big and bad but most of all he was a Soviet nationalist. He never believed in Marx's concept of the International Worker. However, Trotsky did believe in real International communism to take over the planet. Stalin had Trotsky assassinated. Where did Trotsky's followers go? Into the US government. That is what Joe McCarthy was trying to expose. The deep state killed him. Tail Gunner Joe was fighting the deep state before most of you were born. He was vilified by fake news before there was a Trump. International Communism has been rebranded as liberal democracy.
Quote:The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don’t...
Quote:....care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They won’t even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!

(11-15-2018 08:22 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote: Brett Kavanaugh must be smoking a cigar, swirling a glass of whiskey & savouring each & every Avenatti moment.
(11-14-2018 11:56 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:(11-14-2018 10:47 PM)Sherman Wrote: Exactly. The part he is missing is that the real communists aren't out there, even in China. They are in America. Stalin was big and bad but most of all he was a Soviet nationalist. He never believed in Marx's concept of the International Worker. However, Trotsky did believe in real International communism to take over the planet. Stalin had Trotsky assassinated. Where did Trotsky's followers go? Into the US government. That is what Joe McCarthy was trying to expose. The deep state killed him. Tail Gunner Joe was fighting the deep state before most of you were born. He was vilified by fake news before there was a Trump. International Communism has been rebranded as liberal democracy.
Stalin was a big player. Yet he was clearly not the big boss.
There's a reason why I refer to the likes of them as 'Soycialists' or 'subversives' or 'sinister swine'. Alliteration of a sort.
There's also a reason why their efforts appear to transcend countries, cultures & even centuries.
*cough* satan *cough*
(11-14-2018 07:13 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:(11-14-2018 06:34 PM)Canopus Wrote:
The Curse does not fuck around.
And the sequel: The Curse does not fuck around, Part II.

(11-15-2018 09:45 AM)ChicagoFire Wrote: Michael Sebastian called Trump's victory in March 2016 with this post. He's not exactly active as his last post was May 2018. TL;DR: The elites aren't going to let Trump proceed and post Trump is when his efforts will be undone. Other posters on RooshV have stated we're hanging on by a thread as liberals will not lose with dignity and will resort to cheating.
Like Black Knight pointed out with the TN move, Amazon and tech companies are going to continue their hellbent run on taking over the world:
"If Trump wins the election, these oligarchs won’t disappear. They will continue to use their money to buy influence to try to stop Trump from implementing his policy promises."
Some of the following have came true. We're engaging in trade wars to get better deals, Obamacare is pretty much dead, no foreign interventionalist wars yet, and we kind of addressed immigration through tactics like deportations and reducing migrant quotas. Aside from this we're not paying our "ransom" to the UN. All of this can be undone with a Democrat back in power.
"Building a wall and reducing the number of H1B visas will reduce the supply of cheap labor.
Ensuring that trade deals are fair will make it less attractive to use cheap labor abroad.
Doing away with Obamacare and increasing competition will reduce the profits of insurance companies.
Negotiating drug prices will hurt the profits of Big Pharma.
Then there are those foreign governments that use their influence to encourage the US to engage in foolish wars for their benefit. The drumbeat to get into a war with Russia over Syria or Ukraine (any excuse will suffice) is one example of this."
Cuckservative subversion and liberal traitors have harmed us in the past 2 years. They'll do it again for the next 2.
"The opposition may not be open—that would court the displeasure of the voters. But I would expect to see politicians like Paul Ryan oppose deporting illegals, building the wall, or stopping Muslim immigration. His public excuse will be that enforcing a border does not reflect the values of “the party of Lincoln.”
Democrats, who are also owned by the oligarchs, will oppose Trump because his immigration policy will slow down the conversion of the US of a majority white, conservative country into a multicultural, left-wing nation."
The After Trump section is a must read. Here's a teaser:
"A similar process happened after Reagan. George H.W. Bush ran on Reagan’s platform to get elected, but he governed in such a way that almost none of Reagan’s policies survived."
http://honoranddaring.com/if-trump-wins/
(11-14-2018 11:56 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:(11-14-2018 10:47 PM)Sherman Wrote: Exactly. The part he is missing is that the real communists aren't out there, even in China. They are in America. Stalin was big and bad but most of all he was a Soviet nationalist. He never believed in Marx's concept of the International Worker. However, Trotsky did believe in real International communism to take over the planet. Stalin had Trotsky assassinated. Where did Trotsky's followers go? Into the US government. That is what Joe McCarthy was trying to expose. The deep state killed him. Tail Gunner Joe was fighting the deep state before most of you were born. He was vilified by fake news before there was a Trump. International Communism has been rebranded as liberal democracy.
Stalin was a big player. Yet he was clearly not the big boss.
There's a reason why I refer to the likes of them as 'Soycialists' or 'subversives' or 'sinister swine'. Alliteration of a sort.
There's also a reason why their efforts appear to transcend countries, cultures & even centuries.
*cough* satan *cough*
(11-15-2018 08:22 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote: Brett Kavanaugh must be smoking a cigar,swirling a glass of whiskeydowning mugs of beer & savouring each & every Avenatti moment.
(11-14-2018 10:30 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:(11-14-2018 02:28 PM)Deepdiver Wrote: ACTING AG WHITAKER: ‘SPECIAL COUNSEL IS REQUIRED’ TO INVESTIGATE CLINTON FOUNDATION
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I would speculate that the main reason The Hag is making it clear she'll run in 2018 is because it buys her 2 years worth of get-out-of-jail-free cards plus at least a 6 month grace period afterward, or lifetime immunity if she or another Democrat wins 2020.
As I've said before. It's ride or die for the deep state henchmen. They are guilty of such heinous misdeeds that if held accountable they would go away for life.
Using another run at the presidency to put her off limits for legal action is a no-brainer for someone as depraved as her. Once you're an official candidate then it doesn't even matter if someone drops footage of you curbstomping an orphan. The earliest you get charged is 6 months after your candidacy ends, which if you recall is about the amount of time that passed after 1Q2017 before we started asking why Hillary wasn't in cuffs yet.
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(11-16-2018 01:16 PM)Malone Wrote: These people are clowns.
What is the fucking due process for revoking a press pass? You say "fuck off, you're out."
(11-16-2018 05:02 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:(11-16-2018 04:02 PM)Truth Tiger Wrote: I found this excellent commentary from @drawandstrike.
-He mentions the glaring omissions of vital, probing questions of Comey (as one example) in Congressional 'investigations' and leaks by posturing political animals vs. thorough professional DOJ investigations where leaks don't happen.
-He gives examples and a chain of events illustrating how Spygate was 100x worse than Watergate (no one died in Watergate) due to multiple factors, including dismantling much of the intelligence apparatus within China / Iran that took decades to build and deliberate access of US classified information to foreign powers.
-He indicates that Trump has 2 years left to reveal the damage done by Clinton/Obama/Comey & team, and the revelations do NOT depend on having the House approval.
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Thread by @drawandstrike: "BTW, y'all may have noticed I'm not all that broken up of the fact that the House investigations into SpyGate will be ending soon when Democrats take control"
Quote:BTW, y'all may have noticed I'm not all that broken up of the fact that the House investigations into SpyGate will be ending soon when Democrats take control.
That's because 30 years of watching them convinces me most Congressional investigations are useless.
The REAL investigations into SpyGate/FISA/Steele Dossier matters have been taking place inside the DOJ for the past 2 years. Congress got stuff handed off to it when DOJ IG Horowitz was done, either with witnesses or documents.
Even when they get a witness passed off to them the grandstanding lushes of Congress often have no clue what to ask them.
Allow me to now demonstrate this.
After going back over former FBI Director Jame's Comey's testimony in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 8th, I noticed something amazing.
Comey was brought in SPECIFICALLY to discuss the memos he took with him from the FBI. He spent HOURS testifying & taking questions from Senators about them.
Are you sitting down? In *hours* of being questioned by Senators about his memos, Comey manages to NEVER tell them:
1) how many memos there were
2) how many memos contained classified info
and
3) how many memos he gave to Professor Daniel Richman.
Yes.
Really.
That actually happened.
NO Senator on that committee asked Comey the most BASIC foundational questions:
"How many memos did you take with you?"
"How many memos had class. info in them?
"How many did you give to Prof. Richman?"
Comey had mentioned he had 'nine' conversations with Trump that he summarized in his memos, so the Senators *assume* there must be nine memos. You can see this in some of the questions Comey is asked, like this one:
In HOURS of being exhaustively questioned by Senators, Comey is never pinneed down and asked exactly how many memos there are. Several Senators say there are 'nine' and COMEY NEVER SAYS A WORD.
At no point in his testimony does Comey volunteer just how many of his memos there actually are.
In fact, it's not until over a month later it's revealed in a report by The Hill that the number of Comey memos is SEVEN, not nine, as several of the Senators were assuming.
In that exchange above, Senator Heinrich kinda sorta MAYBE invites Comey to directly tell the Committee how many of these memos were written so as to be classified - that is, how many were written on classified devices and now many contained classified information.
Read Comey's answer again. You are watching a master of Bullshit use a word salad to avoid answering how many of the 'nine' memos he took were classified, either from having been written on a classified device or containint classified information.
In that highly lawyerly, convoluted answer, at best Comey seems to be saying perhaps maybe at least TWO of the 'nine' memos are classified. It's hard to tell.
Well in fact FOUR of the seven had classified info in them.
Naturally, the subject of just how many documents with classified information that he took without authorization from his last isn't an issue Comey wants to go into great detail about, so he doesn't.
In fact, according to The Hill's later report the following month, four of Comey's seven memos contained information that was classified at the 'Secret' & 'Confidential' levels.
Now, you remember how Comey had admitted he gave 'several' of these 'nine' memos to a friend named Daniel Richman, and that he had Richman leak part of the contents of one of these memos over the phone to the New York Times.
So. How hard would it be to get a straight answer from Comey as to HOW MANY OF HIS MEMOS DID HE GIVE TO RICHMAN?
Brace yourselves.
He never tells them, and they never pin him down.
So watching how Comey did a rope-a-dope with members of Congress for HOURS and they can't even pin him down by pressing him with BASIC QUESTIONS just reaffirmed what I already know: Senators & House Reps aren't investigators, they are politicians.
Senators questioning Comey for hours couldn't even establish BASIC NUMBERS involved in what they were trying to investigate. He of course, was NOT going to help them, so they had to ask him specific questions.
Which they never did.
I know people don't believe this when I tell them, they dismiss it without even seriously considering it when I bring it up but:
All the REAL MOVEMENT on SpyGate has come from DOJ Inspector General Horowitz.
Anything you think Congress is 'exposing' in SpyGate with either it's Senate or House investigations, was actually from evidence handed off to Congress when Horowitz & his investigative team were done with it.
And even then, since investigations & grand juries are seated - 1 of which was already revealed publicly about McCabe - the testimony of SpyGate witnesses & SpyGate docs given to Congress by the IG had to be tightly controlled.
AND SOME OF IT LEAKED ANYWAY.
Congress doesn't operate under the strictures and limitations that the DOJ does. Congress is full of grandstanding lushes who want face time on TV and to get reelected.
Career federal investigators/prosecutors aren't going to publicly discuss their cases or evidence until done.
The DOJ has serious business to conduct, and yes it's Congresses' job to exercise oversight over that business.
Which more than a few members of Congress use for grandstanding, not to mention partisan leaks to the news media to drive narratives.
"Oh no we lost the House!" they cried.
Yeah, that sucks.
But does that stop Horowitz and all the ongoing investigations at the DOJ? How?
Does that stop Trump from declassifying all the SpyGate docs? How?
Does that stop new Acting AG Whitaker from doing his job? How?
There's now a 2 year window to roll out all the SpyGate stuff. And weather the national crisis that will result from it's being made fully public, so people can see the full extent of the crimes/damage caused
Watergate was bad, but when SpyGate is fully public people will see it is only about 100x worse than Watergate.
Watergate didn't get any body killed.
1) A SecState that insists on a off the books private server that likely exposed THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF CLASSIFIED SECRETS of both the St. dept and the INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES who work in concert with it.
2) By 2012 it's OBVIOUS there'd been a massive security breach, the CIA/Western intel networks in China and Iran are being rolled up
3) Clinton steps down as SecState to prepare for her 2016 Presidential run.
4) I believe by the time she did that. ALL THE MAJOR PLAYERS in Spygate knew by 2012 what she'd done, what resulted worldwide from the nat. sec. security breach she'd caused.
5) They all made the decision to COVER UP FOR HER so she could run for President
6) Then in the runup to 2016 Trey Gowdy's House committee finds out about the homebrew server while investigating Benghazi
7) Comey & McCabe & Co. go the extra mile to fix the FBI investigation to ensure Hillary can continue to run for President unimpeded
8) After finessing THAT, the Weiner laptop is then dropped on them. They find a way to fix THAT too.
9) But at this point these people are all increasingly nervous. They ony way they can TOTALLY ENSURE what they did covering for Clinton's crime is never exposed is to continue to ensure she wins the election.
10) And THAT'S why SpyGate happened. It was their 'insurance policy' in case a miracle happened and Trump won. If Trump wins, then the massive crimes they ignored/covered up so Clinton could run would be exposed.
So this wasn't just about protecting CLINTON because they think she's awesome or something. It's about protecting THEMSELVES and hiding what they did on her behalf.
11) Watergate didn't KILL anybody. DOZENS of CIA agents in Iran and China were dropped through trap doors with ropes around their necks or had bullets fired into their heads
CIA/Western intel networks in China and Iran that it took DECADES to build were rolled up in just a year or two.
12) There's no way Obama didn't know. This went right to the top. Trying to frame Trump so he could almost instantly be impeached or forced to resign or at the very least effectively sabotaged for his one and only term as President they used OFFICIAL GOV'T POWERS/AGENCIES.
So when I say NATIONAL CRISIS when the lid gets ripped off of this and the public airing of what these criminals did starts, I am not joking.
It's only recently been fully impressed on me just how STUPID it would have been for Trump to launch this national crisis just before a midterm election.
Now there's a 2 year window to publicly reveal it all. Trump's not going to waste the opportunity. When a national crisis of this magnitude has to happen, it has to be managed with the utmost care.
You don't like that?
I don't care.
/end
And if this doesnt come to light?
And if nobody gets sent to prison for the rest of their life?
These spectators are hanging onto the notion it will be revealed and big players will go down. I hope they do but at the moment they're free as a bird.
(11-16-2018 05:49 PM)Thersites Wrote:
(11-16-2018 05:05 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote: Talk about an Enemy of the People! Pulling the nuke your own citizens card because we own guns that you don't like, and that threatens your power? Fuck you, traitor. I will go out and buy more ammo this weekend, and more guns once my tax return comes back. "Representatives" like these are a good reminder as to why the Right to Bear Arms is more important than ever. These fuckers are genocidal, given that their ideological roots are found in the Soviet Gulags.
They want complete control over the people. This is the reason why the 2nd amendment was implemented to avoid government's monopoly of force trampling the rights of citizen with every election. That tweet from Swalwell is just other meme or ad that Trump can use for 2020.
(11-16-2018 05:28 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:(11-16-2018 05:00 PM)redpillage Wrote:(11-16-2018 04:09 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote: The stupidest thing of it all? Trump's tax cuts heated up the already boiling economy to the point that the Fed is forced to hike rates up even faster. In other words, whatever stimulating effect the tax cuts have had on the economy will be completely neutered by the increase in Fed rates that they provoked. Not only will we be stuck with the extra debt for absolutely nothing, but we'll end up with higher interest rates than we'd have had if Trump had never passed the tax cuts at all, meaning that the entirety of the $20 trillion of accumulated national debt will have to be refinanced at the new rates.
But hey, as Team Wait and See/400D Chess Brigade told us, the tax cuts were just a way for Master Deal Maker Trump to get Paul Ryan what he wants so that Paul Ryan would give Trump the MAGA agenda in return. I'm sure Speaker Ryan and his House of Representative will give us the MAGA legislation any day now.
Oh...wait...
Trump didn't have a choice. He inherited an economic train wreck from Obama and he did what always does, go out and drum up business. The tax cuts were one low hanging fruit he had at his disposal and remember that there are many things he could have done theoretically but few that he could have done effectively. Drumming up the economy and lowering taxes were the two things he knew would boost his poll numbers plus provide him with ammunition for 2020.
The stock market should have crashed a long time ago during Obama's tenure, and it only survived for a decade after 2008 due to the extensive life support system put in place by the Fed via several rounds of quantitative easing. It's cute to be all smug about it and criticize Trump but I think many of you forget the political and economic shit sandwich the man was handed and the few available options available to him. And I'm not even talking about the daily dramarama that the Libtards are throwing at him on a daily basis.
Agreed that Trump didn't have much of a choice, especially with the spending cuts. Dems (though McConnell also) would not allow the house to pass a spending budget with the cuts that he wanted, so the only option was to pursue the nuclear option in the Senate if he was not going to get the votes to pass a budget in the House, and that didn't allow him to reduce spending. Note that when Trump took over, the national debt actually went down the first 6 months of his presidency as many employees resigned and Trump eliminated those positions.