This is a tweet from 5 years ago:

The Libel laws need to be changed, period.
The Fake News media needs to be bankrupted into eternity. It's the only way to end cultural marxism, PC and hold the traitors accountable. As long as the establishment has their mouthpieces firing on all cylinders day in and day out the situation isn't going to change.

(04-11-2018 08:21 AM)SirTimothy Wrote:  

This tweet reminds me of the time that Trump said he doesn't telegraph his moves ahead of time. That, and just the concept of a commander-in-chief tweeting to let his adversary know that he's about to launch a missile strike seems ridiculous.

This actually makes me think it's less likely that we'll see a strike against Syria, although I could be wrong. We'll see.

Yeah, there's way too much pageantry and telegraphing going on.

Remember, people thought he was crazy for the "bigger button on my desk" tweet but it got NK to the negotiation table.

Even though we know it is likely all theatre it is important to keep the pressure up on Twitter. The administration need to see that the electorate know it's a false flag and will not tolerate war in Syria based on lies. This is not in any way submitting to hysteria but should be seen as lobbying the administration not to make stupid moves.

(04-11-2018 08:17 AM)Gmac Wrote:  



Y'all losing it. Get a grip.

I’m glad the president is a very stable genius.

(04-11-2018 09:41 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:21 AM)SirTimothy Wrote:  

This tweet reminds me of the time that Trump said he doesn't telegraph his moves ahead of time. That, and just the concept of a commander-in-chief tweeting to let his adversary know that he's about to launch a missile strike seems ridiculous.

This actually makes me think it's less likely that we'll see a strike against Syria, although I could be wrong. We'll see.

Yeah, there's way too much pageantry and telegraphing going on.

Remember, people thought he was crazy for the "bigger button on my desk" tweet but it got NK to the negotiation table.

I don't know, the situation is different. NK was escalating at the time and trump did actually move toward a peaceful solution.

Russia is not escalating. In fact, if you have been following closely russia is trying its best to avoid a war. There is little reason to escalation.

(04-11-2018 09:26 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  This is a tweet from 5 years ago:

So if it is "blurted all over the news", have you considered the fact that the man leaking the information, maybe somehow wants the Russians (and Syrians) to have time to remove their personnel from the soon-to-be hit grounds? I mean, if one 'telegraphs" his moves to an adversary, it might be so as to not hurt this adversary too severely.

I read all this as a moderate punishment handed to al-Assad (who might, or not, be somewhat responsible, even indirectly, for the chemical attack), with prior notice given to the Russians so that they remove their soldiers from (in all likelihood, to be targeted) relevant grounds. A moderate strike that one makes sure will not turn into a big casus belli. Hence the necessity to tell the Russians: take cover quickly cause we'll strike soon.

(04-11-2018 10:10 AM)lookslikeit Wrote:  I don't know, the situation is different. NK was escalating at the time and trump did actually move toward a peaceful solution.

Russia is not escalating. In fact, if you have been following closely russia is trying its best to avoid a war. There is little reason to escalation.

If by not escalating you mean Russian said they would fire upon our "launch" sites which would be our ships, then yeah, they are not escalating.

"Russia will shoot down US missiles fired at Syria and retaliate against launch sites, says ambassador"

^

So wait...Russia says if US strikes, they will retaliate, then it's Russia who's escalating ??!

Is Russia supposed to just sit there like a cuck and watch as US missiles come flying ?!

(04-11-2018 10:17 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  ^

So wait...Russia says if US strikes, they will retaliate, then it's Russia who's escalating ??!

Is Russia supposed to just sit there like a cuck and watch as US missiles come flying ?!

If Russia says they will attack our ships then they are escalating. Especially when the US contacted Russia prior to the first missile strike making sure they weren't harmed.

Not hard to follow unless you have some kind of strange worship of Putin. You think Trump is suppose to be a cuck and not respond to that threat?

(04-11-2018 10:21 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 10:17 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  ^

So wait...Russia says if US strikes, they will retaliate, then it's Russia who's escalating ??!

Is Russia supposed to just sit there like a cuck and watch as US missiles come flying ?!

If Russia says they will attack our ships then they are escalating. Especially when the US contacted Russia prior to the first missile strike making sure they weren't harmed.

Not hard to follow unless you have some kind of strange worship of Putin.

YOUR ships are firing missiles at Russian troops, assets, allies.

If Russia invades Vilnius tonight (where there are many US troops), and US retaliates per article 5 of NATO, does it mean it's US that escalated the conflict, or Russia? Of course the latter.

Not hard to follow unless you have some kind of strange worship of god emperor Trump.

(04-11-2018 10:25 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  YOUR ships are firing missiles at Russian troops, assets, allies.

If Russia invades Vilnius tonight (where there are many US troops), and US retaliates per article 5 of NATO, does it mean it's US that escalated the conflict, or Russia? Of course the latter.

Our ships are not firing anything, yet. I don't doubt if they were to fire they would have contacted Russia to make sure they were not in harms way... like the last time.

The minute they said they would retaliate on our ships is when the escalated against us. This wasn't about Russia, it was about Syria up until Russia threatened our ships.

The only attacks against Russian people, as far as I know, were when Russian mercenaries attacked us and got obliterated.

Quote:Not hard to follow unless you have some kind of strange worship of god emperor Trump.

Maybe I should change my name to a AManLikeTrump.

(04-11-2018 10:21 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  If Russia says they will attack our ships then they are escalating. Especially when the US contacted Russia prior to the first missile strike making sure they weren't harmed.

Not hard to follow unless you have some kind of strange worship of Putin.

Hey WWT. Hanging out at your friends house?

How about I pull up outside and shoot the shit out of it.

Don't be a dick and shoot back at my car. That would be an escalation.

(04-11-2018 10:31 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Hey WWT. Hanging out at your friends house?

How about I pull up outside and shoot the shit out of it.

Don't be a dick and shoot back at my car. That would be an escalation.

Yeah, that is exactly what is happening in Syria. Great analogy!

(04-11-2018 10:13 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:26 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  This is a tweet from 5 years ago:

So if it is "blurted all over the news", have you considered the fact that the man leaking the information, maybe somehow wants the Russians (and Syrians) to have time to remove their personnel from the soon-to-be hit grounds? I mean, if one 'telegraphs" his moves to an adversary, it might be so as to not hurt this adversary too severely.

I read all this as a moderate punishment handed to al-Assad (who might, or not, be somewhat responsible, even indirectly, for the chemical attack), with prior notice given to the Russians so that they remove their soldiers from (in all likelihood, to be targeted) relevant grounds. A moderate strike that one makes sure will not turn into a big casus belli. Hence the necessity to tell the Russians: take cover quickly cause we'll strike soon.

There might be something to this theory.

(04-11-2018 10:13 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:26 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  This is a tweet from 5 years ago:

So if it is "blurted all over the news", have you considered the fact that the man leaking the information, maybe somehow wants the Russians (and Syrians) to have time to remove their personnel from the soon-to-be hit grounds? I mean, if one 'telegraphs" his moves to an adversary, it might be so as to not hurt this adversary too severely.

I read all this as a moderate punishment handed to al-Assad (who might, or not, be somewhat responsible, even indirectly, for the chemical attack), with prior notice given to the Russians so that they remove their soldiers from (in all likelihood, to be targeted) relevant grounds. A moderate strike that one makes sure will not turn into a big casus belli. Hence the necessity to tell the Russians: take cover quickly cause we'll strike soon.

You’re right, he’s still fighting the deep state war planners and signaling to Russia.

It'd be fucked up to abandon Assad now, but I think Putin should GTFO of Syria and let the US/NATO get bogged down in another conflict. Strategically it would make more sense.

worldwidetraveler your logic is off. whatever you are smoking is great quality. syria is considered Russian lands. So anyone doing stuff there is the one escalating.

(04-11-2018 11:03 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  It'd be fucked up to abandon Assad now, but I think Putin should GTFO of Syria and let the US/NATO get bogged down in another conflict. Strategically it would make more sense.

Putin doesn't even need leave. I would step aside and let Trump make another mistake. Putin should know by now that all of us that voted for Trump is against this kind of shit. It will just cause more division within the US and Trump may end up being a one term President.

(04-11-2018 11:07 AM)lookslikeit Wrote:  worldwidetraveler your logic is off. whatever you are smoking is great quality. syria is considered Russian lands. So anyone doing stuff there is the one escalating.

Russia owns Syria now? Fuck me, I take a break from politics and this happens. Back to my ganja!

(04-11-2018 11:03 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  It'd be fucked up to abandon Assad now, but I think Putin should GTFO of Syria and let the US/NATO get bogged down in another conflict. Strategically it would make more sense.

russia is not getting out of syria. if you have followed the war closely you'll deduce that syria is a huge redline for russia and certainly not for the natural resources.

russia has been at a proxy war with the us for a several years now. escalation here means moving to a direct war.

(04-11-2018 10:29 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  This wasn't about Russia, it was about Syria up until Russia threatened our ships.

Come on. Last time the zionist cunt Halley spoke at the UN, all her speech was just a venomous russophobic rant, it wasn't even about Syria or Assad anymore.

No, I think Putin is willing to sacrifice a few of his guys to prove to every free mind on the planet that their leaders are Zionist puppets, after which he can let the Western proles rip up his enemies from the inside.

He can withdraw slowly while suffering casualties, all the while watching America et al die from the inside out.

CIA maggots might not care about dirtying their souls arming, training and fighting alongside ISIS but how do you think the average grunt is going to take that?

I can't help but imagine that morale is already in the toilet with this latest news. None of the USMIL are going to believe this gas nonsense for one second, and if you think it's demoralising for spectators like us to see Trump apparently taking the bait then imagine what it's like for the guys manning the ships which might be "escalated" to the bottom of the ocean in a the blink of an eye.

For what? A pipe through Syria? Another box ticked for Israel?

If Trump goes though with this. IF. He will instantly become the most hated President in history. The soy half of America hates him already but the rest of America had his back. But if he sends more red-state American boys into the meat-grinder to fight for ISIS then he has irrevocably put a "for sale" sign on the soul of America, and the only people left in his corner will be the Jews and their cuck zionist gimps.

If there are strikes indeed on Syria, one person will gain (even more) power from this situation: none other than President Trump. Because first, Trump has already shown the world that the new French president is taking almost direct orders from him in times of military crisis (even though Macron has been elected by anti-Trumpers). Secondly, Vladimir Putin will not dare retaliate against the missile-launching US navy ships, thus showing the world that the one and only absolute world power is, still (despite its internal problems, essentially linked to illegal migrations and BLM), the US.

So from this crisis, the US will emerge strengthened; France will be slightly belittled, Merkel and the British woman May will have been shown bending at the knee to Trump, and Russia will be more than slightly (but not hugely) embarrassed, and China will remain neutral, though on notice. The US will therefore have shown its muscles and nobody will have dared retaliate. Big victory for the US, coupled with a remainder of their military dependency imposed on Western Europe, a small symbolic defeat for Russia, and a subtle warning to China. Not bad from a US point of view, and all this for the moderate price of like, twenty missiles. Twenty missiles that hopefully will not even topple al-Assad (who's probably not directly guilty of this chemical thing).

(04-11-2018 11:22 AM)Count Pierre Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 10:29 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  This wasn't about Russia, it was about Syria up until Russia threatened our ships.

Come on. Last time the zionist cunt Halley spoke at the UN, all her speech was just a venomous russophobic rant, it wasn't even about Syria or Assad anymore.

You do have a point and you may very well be right that this is more about Russia at this point. I don't think that applies to Trump, but it certainly does to many war hawks in our government.

I do think Trump wants to get along with Russia. Which is why he didn't specifically say he would retaliate if Russia attacked our ships. He has his hands tied with the swamp and all of this collusion bullshit.

My main point was context matters. Many people will see what Russia said about hitting our launch sites as a threat. Trump always hits back when threatened.