(07-19-2017 10:05 PM)komatiite Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:31 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Fake news NYT and CNN are colluding. They claim Trump is "angry" and warning Sessions/Comey/etc.

I think we can safely determine that if fake news CNN and NYT agree on something, it's almost certainly false.

Not this time - for some reason Trump literally invited the NYT into the Oval Office for an interview just so he could shred Sessions for recusing himself

I don't trust Mueller (he's part of the swamp), and Sessions is the only guy that can replace him. I'm guessing Trump is letting Sessions know he'll replace Sessions if Sessions doesn't replace Mueller. I don't think people realize how dangerous Mueller is. It doesn't matter whether there is nothing to the Russia allegations, you've got a swamp creature like Mueller with the authority to go through EVERYTHING you, your family and your confidants have done for years, eventually he's going to find something he can hurt you with, Russian or not.

Sessions did fuck up by not asking Trump if he should recuse himself. Sessions assumed Trump would agree for no reason and did not give Trump the respect he felt he deserved as newly-elected president.

I'd have to agree with Trump's anger, but at the same time Trump should realize that Sessions was not expecting things to unfold as they have.

Clearly Sessions fucked up by not giving DJT so much as a heads up phone call before he recused himself. It's unforgivable and Trump may be right if he thinks it was a major factor in the tough time he's had in the last few months. This is a burn that won't go away.

(07-19-2017 10:32 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 10:05 PM)komatiite Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:31 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Fake news NYT and CNN are colluding. They claim Trump is "angry" and warning Sessions/Comey/etc.

I think we can safely determine that if fake news CNN and NYT agree on something, it's almost certainly false.

Not this time - for some reason Trump literally invited the NYT into the Oval Office for an interview just so he could shred Sessions for recusing himself

I don't trust Mueller (he's part of the swamp), and Sessions is the only guy that can replace him. I'm guessing Trump is letting Sessions know he'll replace Sessions if Sessions doesn't replace Mueller. I don't think people realize how dangerous Mueller is. It doesn't matter whether there is nothing to the Russia allegations, you've got a swamp creature like Mueller with the authority to go through EVERYTHING you, your family and your confidants have done for years, eventually he's going to find something he can hurt you with, Russian or not.

OK, but if one is the president of the most powerful nation in History, the USA, one should find a way to counter and neutralize even a seemingly-untouchable man like Mueller. There are ways, if you look at past history.

That is why I have been advocating from the beginning, for prosecution (and in due course, detention) of one of the Clintons, even of Barry himself.

Likewise, in Argentina, Conservative and dignified president Mauricio Macri has not succeeded in detaining the murderous, Nestor-poisoning Commie-Cris, and as a result, look who's back with a vengeance in the polls: Cris herself! So, I fear that Hillary herself, yes the old, no-good crooked one, might very well get her revenge in 4 years (if still alive, but reptilians don't die), if she's not prosecuted before.

Now, I know that presidents Macri and Trump respect the Law and its principles, and therefore, refuse, for the time being, to put pressure on judges (or better, intelligence agencies). They are indeed honorable men with principles, much respect to them.
But I have the growing feeling that both of them will have to become meaner, will need to dirty their hands a bit, if they want to get rid of their lethal enemies. After all, look at what Barry did to Breitbart, or Cris to Nisman: do leftists hesitate when dealing with their foes?

I am not saying that President Macri or Trump should become as dirty as CFK, the Clintons or Barry or even admittedly Hollande (who had their enemies killed) but hey, presidents have ways, intelligence agencies can find stuff, or (God forbid) plant a little something here or there if necessary, in the general interest of the State and taxpayers...

In any case, I think that before the end of their mandates, both M. Macri and D. Trump will be forced to go against their generous nature, and will strike at their enemies from within.

Their great, compassionate personalities, had them elected by the great, sensible electorate of the Right, but, both presidents cannot survive if they follow all the time their generous and brilliant hearts and minds. They'll have, from time to time, to use "dirty" tricks, as Leftists do all the time: apply pressure on judges and prosecutors, order intel agencies to find, one way or the other, dirt at all cost against enemies of the State...

The Right cannot survive if it upholds 100% of the time its beautiful and dignified principles. One % of the time, the Right has to become fierce and naughty, and use the Left's strategy (harassment, secret ops, some -but not me- may add, wet jobs) against leftists themselves. Our generous, gentleman-like nature must not make us weak!

Hard to have sympathy for a man who has knowingly caused the gruesome death of housands of innocent people. I'd forgive him if he sincerely repented, but in no way do I feel sorry for him.

The real problem here is that the cucked Arizona public that was happy to elect a genocidal maniac like him will just elect someone similar in his place. Then we can all kick back and enjoy another 30 years of Cain McJones lobbying for a WW3.

That's what I thought eel too. If McCain leaves what to stop them from electing someone younger and with the same values.

Fuck McCain, he has been a sore pimple on America's ass for decades now and I was praying for the day that he would finally meet his maker. His heart may have been in the right place as a young man but in the decades since this war mongering Neocon SOB has been responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths all across the planet. I don't wish cancer on anyone but neither do I wish for some innocent peasant thousands of miles away to have his family taken out by some drone, just because McCain and his military industrial complex pals need to fill their annual quota.

And not even to mention the massive pain in the ass McCain has been for our glorious leader and we probably don't even know the half of it. The quicker he goes the better for all of us and I hope he rots in hell for what he has done to our nation. This is a good day for America.

(07-20-2017 01:17 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Hard to have sympathy for a man who has knowingly caused the gruesome death of housands of innocent people. I'd forgive him if he sincerely repented, but in no way do I feel sorry for him.

Forgiveness for the guilty is an insult to the victims.

(07-19-2017 09:45 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  I just assumed McCain had brain cancer this whole time based on all the dumb shit he's been spouting over the years.

I do wonder for how long he's had diminished mental and cognitive faculties...

I mean, a cancer like that cannot be detected easily (who routinely X-rays his brain?), it has to grow for quite some time, years maybe? - before I guess the suffering makes one discover it?

So, for how long has McCain had his judgement impaired by diminished brain ability?

Was he already intellectually diminished when he willingly let himself get beaten by Barry, an adversary with a comically vulnerable past? All McCain had to do, was ask for a piece of paper from Hawai, not a badly photo-shopped pic... McCain handed the presidency without a fight: was he intellectually diminished, already? Did the people who let him run, already knew he was diminished?

Curiouser & curiouser :

(07-20-2017 06:39 AM)kbell Wrote:  That's what I thought eel too. If McCain leaves what to stop them from electing someone younger and with the same values.

Good point. And it's not just Arizona. Currently, we can count on one hand the number of politicians who are: anti-foreign intervention, neutral on Israel/Palestine, pro-isolationist and pro-American worker etc.

Right now it seems to be garbage in, garbage out. The system keeps churning out these shitty people unfortunately.

By the way, how comes MSM did not confront Mccain about his numerous encounters with Ukrainians??

Donald Trump's son meets a Russian lawyer and it's the end of the world... McCain meets tons of fat Ukrainian mafiosi and oligarchs, and it's perfectly normal?

In any case, wait a couple of days, and I bet MSM will float the idea that The Russians poisoned or irradiated McCain's brain...

(07-20-2017 07:33 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:45 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  I just assumed McCain had brain cancer this whole time based on all the dumb shit he's been spouting over the years.

I do wonder for how long he's had diminished mental and cognitive faculties...

I mean, a cancer like that cannot be detected easily (who routinely X-rays his brain?), it has to grow for quite some time, years maybe? - before I guess the suffering makes one discover it?

So, for how long has McCain had his judgement impaired by diminished brain ability?

Was he already intellectually diminished when he willingly let himself get beaten by Barry, an adversary with a comically vulnerable past? All McCain had to do, was ask for a piece of paper from Hawai, not a badly photo-shopped pic... McCain handed the presidency without a fight: was he intellectually diminished, already? Did the people who let him run, already knew he was diminished?

He did pick Palin as a running mate. You'd have to be at least half retarded to pick Palin as a running mate.

Sounds like a good plan from the acting ICE director.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/07/19/ac...ore-agents

Quote:The acting ICE director unveiled new plans to crack down on sanctuary cities, including the hiring of 10,000 more agents.

Thomas Homan told the Washington Examiner that he sees sanctuary cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York City and Chicago as "ludicrous" and plans to direct the extra agents to those areas.

"In the America I grew up in, cities didn't shield people who violated the law," he said.

Homan blasted state and local authorities who do not cooperate with ICE's efforts to deport illegal immigrants after they're arrested. He said the strategy makes it more dangerous for ICE agents, who then must try to track down the suspects on the streets.

He said ICE will continue to place the higher priority on criminal aliens and those who represent a threat to the community.

Speaking to Neil Cavuto last week, Homan said those who cross the border illegally can no longer assume no one is looking for them.

"[President Trump] basically told [us] you can now do your job, you will enforce laws on your books. There's no population of alien that's off the table anymore and we've been waiting on that for a decade now," said Homan.

Meantime, engineers have begun drilling and taking soil samples in preparation for construction of President Trump's promised border wall in southwestern states.

The Department of Homeland Security is focusing on the San Diego area and the Rio Grande Valley as the highest priority areas for the wall.

Watch all the lefties who were praying for McCain to drop an N-Bomb and hand Obama the 2008 election now angrily demand Trump apologize for being A BIG MEANIEHEAD to this Real American Hero™.

McCain has brain cancer you say ?

I know someone who can help out...

John McCain brain circling the drain.
Hope it don't leave a stain!
Wants to bomb the Mid East, the man's insane.

(07-20-2017 12:59 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 10:32 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 10:05 PM)komatiite Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:31 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Fake news NYT and CNN are colluding. They claim Trump is "angry" and warning Sessions/Comey/etc.

I think we can safely determine that if fake news CNN and NYT agree on something, it's almost certainly false.

Not this time - for some reason Trump literally invited the NYT into the Oval Office for an interview just so he could shred Sessions for recusing himself

I don't trust Mueller (he's part of the swamp), and Sessions is the only guy that can replace him. I'm guessing Trump is letting Sessions know he'll replace Sessions if Sessions doesn't replace Mueller. I don't think people realize how dangerous Mueller is. It doesn't matter whether there is nothing to the Russia allegations, you've got a swamp creature like Mueller with the authority to go through EVERYTHING you, your family and your confidants have done for years, eventually he's going to find something he can hurt you with, Russian or not.

OK, but if one is the president of the most powerful nation in History, the USA, one should find a way to counter and neutralize even a seemingly-untouchable man like Mueller. There are ways, if you look at past history.

There are many ways to do it in history. It was last done in America by Nixon, and made him look dirty as hell and was the beginning of the end for him. This whole thing is a sophisticated trap.

(07-20-2017 01:17 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Hard to have sympathy for a man who has knowingly caused the gruesome death of housands of innocent people. I'd forgive him if he sincerely repented, but in no way do I feel sorry for him.

The real problem here is that the cucked Arizona public that was happy to elect a genocidal maniac like him will just elect someone similar in his place. Then we can all kick back and enjoy another 30 years of Cain McJones lobbying for a WW3.

Take it easy on my new state of residence, Pres Trump won AZ

McCain deserves brain cancer. I hate him for what he has done to my country, the world, and especially to all the veterans that have languished and died without proper treatment for service connected injuries etc.

He deserves worse.

Israel first:

Quote:U.S. Lawmakers Seek to Criminally Outlaw Support for Boycott Campaign Against Israel

THE CRIMINALIZATION OF political speech and activism against Israel has become one of the gravest threats to free speech in the West. In France, activists have been arrested and prosecuted for wearing T-shirts advocating a boycott of Israel. The U.K. has enacted a series of measures designed to outlaw such activism. In the U.S., governors compete with one another over who can implement the most extreme regulations to bar businesses from participating in any boycotts aimed even at Israeli settlements, which the world regards as illegal. On U.S. campuses, punishment of pro-Palestinian students for expressing criticisms of Israel is so commonplace that the Center for Constitutional Rights refers to it as “the Palestine Exception” to free speech.

But now, a group of 43 senators — 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats — wants to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

The proposed measure, called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that the bill “was drafted with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 lobbying agenda, identified passage of this bill as one of its top lobbying priorities for the year.

There's a bunch more at the link.

(07-20-2017 02:00 PM)weambulance Wrote:  Israel first:

Quote:U.S. Lawmakers Seek to Criminally Outlaw Support for Boycott Campaign Against Israel

THE CRIMINALIZATION OF political speech and activism against Israel has become one of the gravest threats to free speech in the West. In France, activists have been arrested and prosecuted for wearing T-shirts advocating a boycott of Israel. The U.K. has enacted a series of measures designed to outlaw such activism. In the U.S., governors compete with one another over who can implement the most extreme regulations to bar businesses from participating in any boycotts aimed even at Israeli settlements, which the world regards as illegal. On U.S. campuses, punishment of pro-Palestinian students for expressing criticisms of Israel is so commonplace that the Center for Constitutional Rights refers to it as “the Palestine Exception” to free speech.

But now, a group of 43 senators — 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats — wants to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

The proposed measure, called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that the bill “was drafted with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 lobbying agenda, identified passage of this bill as one of its top lobbying priorities for the year.

There's a bunch more at the link.

That will be easily challenged in US court.

The Euro-pee-ons? Not so much.

One of our favorite Hungarian shitlords and Trump advisors, Sebastian Gorka, posted an article on The Hill detailing Trump's foreign policy plans:

Quote:America is back with the first 6 months of Trump

Donald Trump won the presidential election against Hillary Clinton with a very simple message: I will fix the economy, build the wall and destroy ISIS.

In this, he channeled the simplicity of Ronald Reagan's own election platform. Then-Gov. Reagan promised to restore Americans’ faith in our nation, to fix the economic “malaise” of the Carter years and to defeat the Soviet Union once and for all.

For the Trump campaign, and now the Trump administration, our approach is summarized under the “Make America Great Again” motto, or #MAGA.

However, winning an election is not the same as governing or implementing a policy agenda once in office. Bumper stickers saying MAGA make for effective political communication, but do not automatically translate by themselves into policies or grand strategy.

Now, as the Trump administration marks six months in office, observers, allies and enemies are asking: How does the MAGA message translate into American foreign and national security policy under America’s new commander in chief?

Soon, President Trump will issue America’s new national security strategy. But given the very high operational tempo of the last 25 weeks, thanks in large part to the challenges and outright threats we inherited, the key principles of the Trump foreign policy have already been laid down.

The first principle of our administration is plain for all to see. America is back. And under President Trump, so is American leadership. American influence is a global good and this recognition is a first step toward advancing our leadership, which in turn can help set the conditions for the security and prosperity of the United States and its allies. The era of apologizing for America is over.

We have openly rejected the passive and reactionary ideas central to the Obama years, especially “leading from behind” and “strategic patience.” It is our key assumption that a world without American leadership, in which the president does not forcefully stand up for the eternal truths upon which the republic was founded, is a very dangerous world. And the last eight years proved us right.

When America withdraws from the world, and when we apologize for our civilizational values and our culture, those who have other values will step into the vacuum and eventually endanger us and our allies, undermining peace globally. That is why the Obama years saw the invasion of Crimea, the collapse of the Middle East and the rise of ISIS, the use of chemical weapons in Syria, an increasingly belligerent Iran, and China spreading its military, political and economic influence worldwide.

The international system created after more than 60 million souls perished in World War II was shaped by the influence of our great nation. That system may have been far from perfect, but it prevented the global spread of communist dictatorship and nuclear war between East and West. We cannot solve all the world's ills, and it is not the president's mandate to do so, but when our influence is not felt, the influence of others is, others who wish to destabilize and ultimately undermine what we have achieved.

President Trump is not, however, interested in being an interventionist commander in chief. Nor are we interested in fighting other people's wars for them. But, that does not automatically mean we are isolationists. We do not believe in extremes.

“America first” does not mean “America alone.”

This brings us to the question of America's alliances and international partnerships after Jan. 20, and to the second principle upon which all our strategies are built: In order to respond to threats, we must first name them truthfully.

In Warsaw, the president not only reasserted American leadership, he also reminded the world what makes America and her allies special. We believe that the values of our founding are not based on some cold utilitarian calculation, or on a subjective interpretation of “right and wrong.” America’s values are based on objective truth — the truth we have inherited as part of our membership in Western civilization.

Before becoming the most powerful man in the world, President Trump was a highly successful businessman. As such, ideology had no place in his world. What mattered was the truth — the true state of the world — not the ideological color of any lens imposed upon it. His administration reflects this approach. We look at the world as it is, not as we would want it to be. At the same time, we will stand shoulder to shoulder with any nation, for example Poland, which shares the values that made the West great and is prepared to defend them.

We are only one-half year into Donald Trump's presidency. In that very brief period, we have seen the nation's economy re-energized, illegal migration plummet, the NATO alliance revitalized, and the president order new measures to secure America from terrorists.

Most striking of all is what President Trump has managed to achieve in just 25 weeks with regard to the totalitarian menace that is the Islamic State.

When the administration came into office, ISIS held territory in multiple countries in the Middle East, with fully functioning affiliates in more than a dozen countries. On the territory of the physical “caliphate,” Abu Bakr’s deadly cohorts were running actual slave markets, selling women and children into sex slavery, and had even established their own system of “caliphate taxation.” Now, with the liberation of Mosul, the death knell of the caliphate is being rung, and ISIS is on the run. All this thanks to our replacing a strategy of attrition with a strategy of annihilation.

Just as America was crucial to the defeat of the totalitarians of the Third Reich, and to the ideological defeat of the communist threat posed by the Soviet Union, we will defeat the newest totalitarian threat to the West, radical Islamic terrorism under the leadership of the current American president. This is but the beginning of translating MAGA onto the global stage.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/th...t-6-months

^ It was never a problem that the US did intervention or even attempted to bully the world, the problem was that this bullying was increasingly done for the benefit of Israel, not America.

So speaking out against Israel or a boycott can possibly get a hefty fine and prison time.

FUCK AIPAC

I hope this gets challenged in court and gets struck down.