(06-18-2017 09:05 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: If you want a more local example, check out the last five pages of the London Bridge Attack thread on RVF - and witness the arguments of Excelsior. Born in America to Jamaican parents (Jamaica has an average IQ of 71.), Excelsior criticizes Trump and his supporters - wait for it - for looking down on him, and hating his entire identity .
It would be one thing if Trump supporters beat him or his family, but the worst we've done is look down on him. For that, he is sided with the globalists against us.
I criticized white supremacists for looking down on me, my culture, my heritage, and my entire identity. I'm intelligent enough to see that not every Trump supporter is a white supremacist and the terms are therefore not synonymous, which is why I did not at any time make the claim you stated.
The next bit is the part where I go on and on for a page or two about how much harm has been done (when, where, why, to whom, etc) by those who believe in and support white supremacy to myself and those close to me. I can talk about the lawsuits, the missed applications, the words that were said and unsaid, etc, etc.
I'm going to skip this part and abstain from talking about all of that for a simple reason: I have no inclination to continue to invest exorbitant sums of time and effort trying to reach people who have not only openly declared their belief that I am a second class citizen below their standing, but have also made it clear that they have no desire to hear anything contrary to their own world view (which is that there is no such thing as racism directed at blacks and any claims in the present day are manufactured results of a perpetual victim complex).
What you embody is everything about this space that has turned it into the dark, hostile place it has become over the years.
You openly look down on people, disparaging them and their culture while advocating for ideology and policy explicitly intended to harm them.
And then, when they look at you sideways, you wonder why.
It's incredible, really. Why wouldn't I feel totally excited about backing up people who have dedicated themselves to undermining and attacking everything I am? I must be mad.
The only reason you ask these questions is because you simply don't respect those people enough to conceive that they could or should do anything but ignore your disrespect.
Your problem is clear.
You have a certain understanding of black people and where they stand. They are to be subservient to you and everyone like you. It is why you can only conceive of them existing as vassals to some other group and it is why you have openly called for their exclusion from the political process and general disenfranchisement.
In your mind, black people are supposed to go along to get along. So when you openly insult them, dismiss every concern or perspective they attempt to express regarding their experience, and openly claim their inferiority, they aren't supposed to mind that. They need to recognize who the rightful boss is and just go along to get along.
You'll find a decent number of blacks who will go along to get along and give you and those like you the affirmation you feel you deserve. I am not one of them. I am not going to affirm or tolerate your ideology or anything even tangentially related to it. If you look down on and attack me, my people, my culture, and my identity, then you are the enemy and will be treated as such.
I'm done dealing with you, but keep what I said above in mind for the future. This community belongs to people like you now, and you'll be safe here (I'm your most vocal critic so far and I'm not going to be around). But don't think for a second that I'm the only person of color who notices what I notice and holds the views expressed above. There are only so many folks who will go along to get along, and all of the IQ studies in the world are not going to change that.
(06-18-2017 11:19 PM)Fisto Wrote: I was unaware that President Trump has ever commented on Jaimaica one way or the other.
Personally I can't stand their broken English and annoying accents.
Quote:Perfect example of how whitey can give and give and give and get nothing but resentment and hostility for the trouble.
That resentment and hostility is directed at white supremacists and their allies.
What did white supremacists (and the folks like you who sympathize with/back them up) give to anyone?
I'll tell you what: fuck-all.
So what exactly do you/they deserve?
I'll tell you: fuck all.
You're owed nothing. You (not some broad category of "whiteys", but you and your ilk very specifically) give hostility and resentment only, and that's exactly what you'll get in return.
One of these days you and your peers will learn to deal with that and quit expecting 1+1 = 7.
Alternatively, you could all just stop looking down on the folks we're talking about. You could stop going on and on about their inferiority and the like, and you could stop co-signing others who do that kind of thing. That might help with the whole resentment thing you're dealing with - folks despise you a lot less when you aren't committed to (or otherwise tolerating or legitimizing) claims of their inferiority and advocating for their permanent status as second class citizens. One of the easiest ways to do that is to just treat them with the same level of respect you'd want afforded yourself.
But who am I kidding? That's like asking dogs not to bark, squirrels not to climb trees, moles not to dig, and pigeons not to shit all over the place. Some things can’t be helped.
Anyway, good luck to you guys with Trump. At some point (it’s already started with a few here, but I expect the trend to grow) you guys are going to realize that Trump, in his heart of hearts, is not the globalist-smashing, neo-masculine/traditionalist champion you thought (hoped?) he was. I wish you luck with that process - it's going to be an interesting ride.