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Gmac · 2017-04-05 12:25:00 · #61180
Live: President Trump and King Abdullah II Hold a Joint Press Conference



Edmund Ironside · 2017-04-05 12:40:00 · #61181
Some twitter reactions:






SamuelBRoberts · 2017-04-05 12:46:00 · #61182
(04-05-2017 12:05 PM)kaotic Wrote:  To the guys above, read what MOVSM wrote....

Bannon NEVER attended a meeting, so nothing is being "taken away", basically to me it sounds like a "use it or lose it situation"

Or maybe it was a strategic move to keep an eye on Flynn and others for awhile.

He wasn't shitcanned.

Chill brahs.

Agree completely.

I'm a big believer in ignoring all the kremlinology coming out of white house watchers, as they try to figure out what this or that personnel move might mean.
Watch what Trump actually does, and worry about that.
AManLikePutin · 2017-04-05 12:51:00 · #61183

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Weirdly, king of Jordan is the one in this whole mess talking some sense.




Next few days/weeks, will be ***interesting***
RIslander · 2017-04-05 12:59:00 · #61184
Side note, the King of Jordan is a bad ass.

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He started off as a platoon Leuitenant, became qualified as a tank driver, Cobra attack pilot, airborne qualified, and general of the Jordianian Special Forces. The dude still fucking trains with soldiers.
nomadbrah · 2017-04-05 13:03:00 · #61185
(04-05-2017 11:59 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Jack Posobiec released a Periscope that I haven't listened to yet: Paul Ryan encouraged Steve Bannon's removal from NatSec.

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One minute into Jack's periscope, "Jared Kushner has been leaking anti-Bannon information to Joe Scarborough."

Finished with the Periscope: Steve Bannon hasn't lost his security clearance, and can still attend NatSec meetings. He just isn't a member of NatSec.

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nomadbrah · 2017-04-05 13:17:00 · #61186
Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.
rockoman · 2017-04-05 13:29:00 · #61187
Removal of Bannon from NSC.

Kuschner leaks against Bannon.

Seemingly uncritical acceptance of western media reports re. Idlib gas attack.

Sabre-rattling against North Korea.

Are we Trump supporters suffering from political oneitis?
Fast Eddie · 2017-04-05 13:32:00 · #61188
(04-05-2017 01:29 PM)rockoman Wrote:  Removal of Bannon from NSC.

Kuschner leaks against Bannon.

Seemingly uncritical acceptance of western media reports re. Idlib gas attack.

Sabre-rattling against North Korea.

Are we Trump supporters suffering from political oneitis?

You know, Trump can do whatever the fuck he wants on all the above and as long as he materially decreases immigration, both legal and illegal, he will have been a fine president in my book. If on the other hand at the end of his first term he ends up being nothing but another neocon stooge internationally and does nothing beyond the mere symbolic on immigration, then he can get fucked. It's all about immigration at this point, nothing else matters.
Turnus · 2017-04-05 13:33:00 · #61189
Brietbart putting a positive spin on the ouster of Banon from the NSC. May not be all that bad. He claims "mission accomplished"
kaotic · 2017-04-05 13:37:00 · #61190
Good news is that border crossings have dropped dramatically to a 17 year low.

https://www.google.com/search?q=border+c...&tbm=nws&*

Just the news of this has done amazing work AND the wall is STILL being built.

We should hold off on assuming Assad had anything to do with the gas attacks.

North Korea has napoleon syndrome and can try and lash out but can't do shit, even if it hates it's big brother china.

Once again, Bannon wasn't doing shit on the NSC to begin with.

Kuschner leaks need to be investigated asap.
phluff127 · 2017-04-05 13:43:00 · #61191
(04-05-2017 01:17 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Trump is beginning to make bad moves now. (speculation)

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.(speculation)


This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble.(speculation)
He was involved in McMasters too (speculation)
and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.(speculation)


This is the result of McMasters. (speculation)
This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. (speculation)
Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.(speculation)


Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, (speculation)
because Trump's only weakness is his children. (speculation)
I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Fixed that for ya
nomadbrah · 2017-04-05 13:55:00 · #61192
(04-05-2017 01:43 PM)phluff127 Wrote:  
(04-05-2017 01:17 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Trump is beginning to make bad moves now. (speculation)

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.(speculation)


This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble.(speculation)
He was involved in McMasters too (speculation)
and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.(speculation)


This is the result of McMasters. (speculation)
This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. (speculation)
Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.(speculation)


Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, (speculation)
because Trump's only weakness is his children. (speculation)
I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Fixed that for ya

You didn't fix anything. I called this when McMasters was appointed.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48360...pid1519479


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/tr...ser-235212

Quote:McMaster wasn't on the White House’s radar for the job until Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), increasingly a trusted foreign policy voice within the White House, called Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner and Reince Priebus early last week and urged them to consider the former combat general, who served in both Iraq wars and in Afghanistan. Cotton's staffers then helped facilitate contact between McMaster and the White House. On Thursday, Cotton received word in a text message from one senior White House staffer that McMaster was on the short list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cotton..._education

Quote: Cotton was endorsed by Senator John McCain.[33] Cotton was supported by and has close ties to both the Tea Party movement and the Republican establishment.[34][35][36][37]

Cotton was endorsed by former Presidential nominee Mitt Romney,[57] the fiscally conservative Club for Growth PAC, Senator Marco Rubio, and the National Federation of Independent Business.[58][59][60][61][62] Romney campaigned for Cotton in the state.[63]

Cotton also seemed to underestimate what military action against Iran would entail,[77] stating: "the president is trying to make you think it would be 150,000 heavy mechanized troops on the ground in the Middle East again as we saw in Iraq. That's simply not the case." Drawing a comparison to President Bill Clinton's actions in 1998 during Operation Desert Fox, he elaborated: "Several days' air and naval bombing against Iraq's weapons of mass destruction facilities for exactly the same kind of behavior. For interfering with weapons inspectors and for disobeying Security Council resolutions."[77][78]

http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-cotto...&IR=T&IR=T
Quote: "He's establishment in the sense that he has an impressive educational and consulting background, combined with an intellect and hawkish foreign policy views that have impressed folks like Bill Kristol and earned him Sunday show appearances, which are rare for freshman House members," Mackowiak said.

Quote: Cotton, meanwhile, received a text message from Kushner thanking him for putting McMaster on their radar and stating that "he's going to be a great choice," a source familiar with the process said

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/arc...a=AMP+HTML
MMX2010 · 2017-04-05 13:56:00 · #61193
Phluff,

Jack Posobiec reported that Jared Kushner is leaking anti-Bannon information to Joe Scarborough. If you call it "speculation", then you're implying that Jack Posobiec is lying/a bad reporter.

Justify this, or retract.
durangotang · 2017-04-05 14:02:00 · #61194
Add Roger Stone to that list:



nomadbrah · 2017-04-05 14:03:00 · #61195
Good lord I just saw Trump's cucking about "innocent babies".

Whatever is going with Kushner and McMasters, the internet needs to descend on these two now.
durangotang · 2017-04-05 14:20:00 · #61196
As I have been saying the greatest threat isn't from the Maxine Waters or Chuck Schumer or any other Democrat babies, but from neocons worming their way into Trump's administration and whispering in his ear. Trump's shilling for Israel was always a problem, but we didn't know how far that would go.

First there was sabre rattling against North Korea and now this:





Not good. This isn't what we elected. Aren't we supposed to be fighting ISIS with Russia? That is what we were promised.
Elster · 2017-04-05 14:37:00 · #61197
So to the eyes of the cucked hordes , Bannon and therefore the Don have suffered a setback by his removal/exit from the ecurity council,and they are celebrating.
What do you gauge is the general population's reaction,particularly on the rustbelt? Will the label of "Bannon is a loser" stick or do you think they can spin it around in another chess move?As it seems giving up Bannon wouldnt be a good trade off

On the (us) populace's views,what do you think they view the syrian and/or russian situation?
Samseau · 2017-04-05 14:43:00 · #61198
Trump needs to show proof of Syria's wrongdoing or he's going to lose a fuckton of support. Which sucks, because the Democrats are even bigger warmongers than Republicans nowadays!!


As for Steve Bannon - much ado about nothing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-05...ty-council

He was put on the NSC to remove a lot of left-wing political bullshit. Bannon feels he did his job, and now is moving onto other things. He has retained his National Security Clearance.

Just swamping draining folks, nothing to see here, move along.
TravelerKai · 2017-04-05 14:44:00 · #61199
(04-05-2017 01:17 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.

His children? That dude is a son-in-law. No telling where that guy's mind is at. He and his family had their own thing before joining his family. He did not raise that guy. If he nods his head like he is listening whenever Trump talks, that means jack squat.

This goes back to what I said about his daughter being the only woman worthy of being in his circle. He has no real control over inlaws. Any man that claims they do, is full of shit, and likely never been married before.

Sometimes the limelight changes people that ordinarily are okay people. All it does is draw out their inherit weaknesses if anything.

Trump is like myself and several of us in this way. He was not always a Republican. His extended family may not exactly all be Republican and worst of all, not that loyal to him either. Some of you in this thread were worried about his Jewish inlaws. At the time, I was skeptic of that side of his camp myself, but I did not think it was enough to sound a bell over, because I thought I was just feeling slightly irrational out of fear of the unknown people. Now, it's not looking good at all.

Anyway, he needs to reign in all this turnover stuff. It's starting to look like a hot mess. The Whitehouse cannot look like a revolving door, like your typical American business. There needs to be some consistency and continuity to move forward at some point.

The good news is that he is catching stuff early and he can deal with it now, rather than have leaks for years and never know.

The bad thing is that he may need to reach out and grab more regulars because some of these outsiders are starstuck and fucking up his image. I think the poll numbers are garbage on his approval ratings, but right now is not a good time to be dipping on that.

The best news is that he still has time left to formulate a solid team and government. The door flapping, just needs to be a little bit less. If Trump wants to make this a normal thing, I would highly advise against that. That mentality belongs only in corporate. After a short while, he will run out of people to fire. If he wants to be proactive, he needs to start grooming high quality folks for later on or the second term for various positions. Guys like Colin Noir come to mind. Unfortunately draining the swamp completely would leave the government crippled. Can't jail em all either. Gotta play the long game.

Also, if Kushner had any respect for his father in law, he should resign instead and not wait for Trump to send him out. For embarrassing him and the whole family, that is the least he could do.

When will people learn? The Information Age has begun to peak. Information and technological warfare is at an all time high. Nothing stays a secret for long now. The days of "anonymous sources" are starting to fade away into the history books.
MOVSM · 2017-04-05 14:46:00 · #61200
Not sure what to think of this:


BREAKING: Rick Perry added to National Security Council’s core decision-makers

Quote:Adding Perry to the NSC’s principals committee now brings the cabinet official in charge of the nation’s nuclear stockpile into the fold. The lion’s share of the Energy Department’s budget goes toward the National Nuclear Security Administration, which deals with the military application of nuclear science.
Foolsgo1d · 2017-04-05 14:50:00 · #61201
(04-05-2017 02:43 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Trump needs to show proof of Syria's wrongdoing or he's going to lose a fuckton of support. Which sucks, because the Democrats are even bigger warmongers than Republicans nowadays!!


As for Steve Bannon - much ado about nothing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-05...ty-council

He was put on the NSC to remove a lot of left-wing political bullshit. Bannon feels he did his job, and now is moving onto other things. He has retained his National Security Clearance.

Just swamping draining folks, nothing to see here, move along.

Democrats are slimey and passive aggressive and do it through the back yard entrance.

My fear is that Trump does it like a SWAT team - not only going through the front door but hooking the front of the house and pulling it off.

He cannot be led into upfront military or economic action based on this bullshit. It will make the world worse and plays into the hands of Israel and ISIS.
nomadbrah · 2017-04-05 14:55:00 · #61202
Yeah, I don't mean Kushner is children, I mean Ivanka, who is clearly daddy's princess and now an orthodox jew married to a jew who literally slept in the same room with Benjamin Netanyahu growing up. The entire weight of the jewish agenda is coming down on Jared Kushner.

http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.781753

Quote:“But Kushner, he wouldn’t reach the number one spot in our real president standings if son-in-law were his only responsibility,” Noah said during the recent installment of his running sketch, "Who is the real president?"

This was a joke, but why make an article of it in Haaretz? Because jews know full well they are usually "the real president".

http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.781605
Quote:Jewish media and social networks are often quick to note the presence of Jews in high places, out of ethnic pride, and sometimes a sense that such figures can be advocates for Jewish communal issues. Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, in particular are objects of fascination among many Jews; Kushner was raised in an Orthodox Jewish family in New Jersey, Ivanka converted to Judaism under the auspices of an Orthodox rabbi, and the family attends an Orthodox synagogue in Washington, D.C.

But Jews sometimes play into anti-Semitic rhetoric by expecting Jews in power to serve parochial Jewish interests, said former Anti-Defamation League National Director Abe Foxman. While Foxman said there is nothing wrong with Jews feeling especially proud of powerful Jews, they — and outsiders — shouldn’t see them as their emissaries.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.781605

You can't have jews in positions of power and not have them advance jewish interest. Every fucking time. There is but one real political red pill and it is to recognize jewish influence, everything else comes second.
Gaston · 2017-04-05 14:59:00 · #61203
This is from Breitbart (today):

"Trump chose the Obama-hired Customs and Border deputy who was tasked with enacting Obama’s open border vision to lead the parent agency of Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection (CBP). All of the Border Patrol agents who spoke with Breitbart Texas Managing Director Brandon Darby from all nine Southwest border sectors expressed feeling betrayed or otherwise hurt by Trump choosing a man who did so much damage to them to be their new boss. Many expressed regret for having supported Trump in the first place and for having believed he would actually listen to them and care about what they experienced while risking their lives for other Americans.

The feelings of betrayal come just days after the announcement of Obama-hire Kevin McAleenan as the next Commissioner of CBP. While the organization that represents the agents, the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) has not spoken about the nomination, Darby spoke about how the line agents feel let down.

“I know that Trump has promised to get the National Border Patrol Council and agents a large voice in what happens on the border,” Darby said. “ Last Friday he picked Kevin McAleenan, he nominated him to be the Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, the parent agency of Border Patrol.” During the show, Darby spoke on how McAleenan is not only a holdover from the Obama administration, but a key player during the previous administration’s push for a less secure border.

“He nominated this guy .. the problem is that this guy was hired by Barack Obama and was made deputy of [CBP] and all of the things we fought against on the border happened under this guy’s watch and he would have been the one responsible for implementing them. That’s DACA, DAPA and Catch and Release.” Darby said referring to some of the controversial programs started under the Obama administration.

Despite being an Obama holdover, McAleenan’s role appears to have been key in the implementation of those controversial programs, Darby said. “This is the guy who was picked by Barack Obama to enact Barack Obama’s open border policies.” he said.“This guy for some reason has been picked by Trump to be the boss of the border patrol agents who did so much and believed so much in Donald Trump.”

While the NBPC has not released any statements on the matter or had its members publicly discuss the issue, Darby said he has spoken with numerous other agents who are not NBPC leaders and have been key to helping Breitbart readers understand the realities of the southern border.

“Every single agent I have spoken with has been upset,” Breitbart Texas’ director said. “They tell me ‘We feel betrayed by the Trump Administration. We don’t understand how the Trump Administration could pick this person to be our boss after what we did.’ …I find it to be very concerning … I have not spoken to one who does not feel hurt, betrayed, let down about this.”

“I believe it was the Border Patrol agents who came out for him and put him over the edge to win the Republican nomination in the primary,” he said. “This is the first time they have endorsed a presidential candidate much less a candidate in the primary, These guys go all our for him and then for some reason he [Trump] puts someone who seemingly helped Obama try to destroy them and to open the border.”
nomadbrah · 2017-04-05 15:03:00 · #61204
Trump will crash and burn unless he rids himself of all neocons.
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