The Mexican agenda:
Caveat, not all Hispanics are down with this, but the 60+% of those that vote democrat are.

Quote: Radical ‘Reconquista’ Agenda

Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

One of America’s greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties.

This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:

“Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we…should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot…Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas … It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

MEChA isn’t at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”

Backgraound:

Quote:There are many immigrant groups joined in the overall “La Raza” movement. The most prominent and mainstream organization is the National Council de La Raza — the Council of “The Race”.

To most of the mainstream media, most members of Congress, and even many of their own members, the National Council of La Raza is no more than a Hispanic Rotary Club.

But the National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone, of which $7.9 million was in U.S. Department of Education grants for Charter Schools, and undisclosed amounts were for get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions.

The Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for “housing reform,” while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.

So on top of what's basically the Black Power movement reborn, we've now got the Bronze Power one, with just as ridiculous a founding idea as your average white power movement.

(08-26-2015 05:28 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  So on top of what's basically the Black Power movement reborn, we've now got the Bronze Power one, with just as ridiculous a founding idea as your average white power movement.

Except the Democrat party honors and sees La Raza, which translates to "the race", as a very valid and rational organization.

(08-26-2015 05:31 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 05:28 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  So on top of what's basically the Black Power movement reborn, we've now got the Bronze Power one, with just as ridiculous a founding idea as your average white power movement.

Except the Democrat party honors and sees La Raza, which translates to "the race", as a very valid and rational organization.

Well, given its explicit behaviour towards black power organisations is literally to look down at the ground, make yourself as small as possible, and cover your balls in fear, why should we be surprised?

Double post, but breaking: FRANK UNDERWOOD HAS ENTERED THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT!






...okay, it's fake, but still. And note he's running on the Democratic ticket.

I repped MidWest not too long ago for maturing on racial/political issues, and stand by it. Let's be fair; he's loyal to his own ethnic group and traditions in the same way we're loyal to our own ethnic groups and traditions. While this is something I greatly respect, it only strengthens the case for the ethnic nationalism he speaks against.

The elephant in the room will always be racial self-interest. It's an inherent bias shared by all living things on earth, from small birds to the citizens of modern nation states. Distinguishing oneself from others is a basic survival instinct as relevant today as it was when early humans huddled together in caves for warmth. To deny a man the ability to pursue interests beneficial to his tribe is to deny his human nature and very existence. Without the right to act in self-interest, develop a sense of racial identity, and form/join a community based on these shared traits, we are merely hallow shells of human beings working as cogs in a corporate machine. We all lose our identities, we all lose our God-given, unique characteristics as individuals. We're all exploited and plundered for the benefit of a few.

I stand behind Trump because for the first time in over 50 years, Whites are regaining the sense of ethnic identity stolen from them and denied to them. He's rekindling this spirit. As we've discussed here at length, multiculturalism, pluralism, and Cultural Marxism have taken away the essence of our existence as a people: community, family, and tradition, leaving us open to exploitation by groups like La Raza. While I and many others here would fight to the death to restore what's been stolen from us, I extend this same right to MidWest, Mikado, or others. Love of ones own is not hatred of another.

With that being said, allowing people to pursue competing group interests in some hybrid, amalgamated fantasy society is a recipe for disaster. From Babel in early religious texts (many nations living together, one language) to the Roman Empire, plurality and multiculturalism are death sentences for all. Blacks should have a homeland. Hispanics should have a homeland. Whites should also have a homeland. There's something to be said for the fact that not a single multicultural society has ever withstood the test of time. Ethnic nationalism - or separatism, if you will - is the only effective way to peacefully resolve chronic social conflict in a globalized world. As a Christian, the Bible even commands believers to organize in such a manner as the optimal environment for faith to flourish, and thus unify, the tribes of the earth.

To MidWest: White nationalism is not racism against Hispanics. Enforcing immigration laws (the laws your own people enforce in your own ancestral homelands) is not "right-wing radicalism" - it's common sense. White people pursuing White interests is not "right-wing political extremism", but rather a mirror of your own political group strategies. I think your heart is in the right place and you're open minded enough to evolve on many issues, but your Overton Window is dangerously out of place.

(08-26-2015 05:34 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 05:31 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 05:28 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  So on top of what's basically the Black Power movement reborn, we've now got the Bronze Power one, with just as ridiculous a founding idea as your average white power movement.

Except the Democrat party honors and sees La Raza, which translates to "the race", as a very valid and rational organization.

Well, given its explicit behaviour towards black power organisations is literally to look down at the ground, make yourself as small as possible, and cover your balls in fear, why should we be surprised?

I'm personally not surprised, but more and more need to hear and know about the Democrat party doing this.

I know one of Obama's cabinet members was a leader of La Raza. As it was pointed out, this is in reality no different than Dubya appointing David Duke to be a member of his cabinet.

(08-25-2015 10:16 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 10:13 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 06:19 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 03:54 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...p-in-iowa/

Quote:EXCLUSIVE — ANN COULTER TO INTRODUCE DONALD TRUMP IN IOWA

Eleven-time New York Times bestselling author Ann Coulter will introduce 2016 GOP frontrunner Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa on Tuesday, Breitbart News has learned exclusively.

“This is the first time I’ve thought there was hope for our country again since Nov. 7, 2012,” Coulter said in an email to Breitbart News when asked why she is introducing Trump.

Coulter, the author of the bestselling ¡Adios America! about immigration, is extraordinarily pleased by Trump’s immigration reform plan. On Breitbart News Sunday this weekend on Sirius XM Patriot, Coulter walked through how happy she was.

Coulter will be signing copies of her book at a Trump campaign rally in Dubuque, Iowa, at 4:30 p.m. CT and will be speaking before Trump in front of an expected crowd of 1,600.

Trump’s immigration reform plan aims to put Americans ahead of foreigners and special interests and has several aspects in it designed to do that. He wants to build a wall on the border, make Mexico pay for it, end birthright citizenship for anchor babies, and put restrictions on legal immigration designed to ensure Americans have first access to jobs instead of illegal immigrants or future foreigners.

http://www.msnbc.com/shift/watch/live-do...2738883926

Live stream of the rally. Ann Coulter is pulling no punches in her intro.

Coulter introducing Trump?

I'm thinking this could be a mistake.

Can anyone say "bad advice from your advisors"

She's a pillar in the conservative community and very well respected. Her endorsement of Trump is a big deal.

No one will dislike Trump for having her introduce him, but new people WILL like Trump by having her introduce him.

^She is a pillar and I love her biting wit and articles. I've also read one of her books a few years ago.

I disagree that no one will dislike Trump for her introducing him. It may not be straight up dislike, but it could turn off some of those on the fence.

The reason; Coulter is known for using words like hand grenades and a she's a polarizing figure. She's the 'red meat' commentator on the right.

Some less informed voters who may be willing to give Trump a listen could be like 'oh, that Ann Coulter's a right wing nut I've heard' etc etc.

I'm not saying these people are right in thinking this. However, I can see them thinking this way and being skeptical/turned off a bit. Especially with the phenomenon of the low information voters and all.

(08-26-2015 06:10 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  I repped MidWest not too long ago for maturing on racial/political issues, and stand by it. Let's be fair; he's loyal to his own ethnic group and traditions in the same way we're loyal to our own ethnic groups and traditions. While this is something I greatly respect, it only strengthens the case for the ethnic nationalism he speaks against.

The elephant in the room will always be racial self-interest. It's an inherent bias shared by all living things on earth, from small birds to the citizens of modern nation states. Distinguishing oneself from others is a basic survival instinct as relevant today as it was when early humans huddled together in caves for warmth. To deny a man the ability to pursue interests beneficial to his tribe is to deny his human nature and very existence. Without the right to act in self-interest, develop a sense of racial identity, and form/join a community based on these shared traits, we are merely hallow shells of human beings working as cogs in a corporate machine. We all lose our identities, we all lose our God-given, unique characteristics as individuals. We're all exploited and plundered for the benefit of a few.

I stand behind Trump because for the first time in over 50 years, Whites are regaining the sense of ethnic identity stolen from them and denied to them. He's rekindling this spirit. As we've discussed here at length, multiculturalism, pluralism, and Cultural Marxism have taken away the essence of our existence as a people: community, family, and tradition, leaving us open to exploitation by groups like La Raza. While I and many others here would fight to the death to restore what's been stolen from us, I extend this same right to MidWest, Mikado, or others. Love of ones own is not hatred of another.

With that being said, allowing people to pursue competing group interests in some hybrid, amalgamated fantasy society is a recipe for disaster. From Babel in early religious texts (many nations living together, one language) to the Roman Empire, plurality and multiculturalism are death sentences for all. Blacks should have a homeland. Hispanics should have a homeland. Whites should also have a homeland. There's something to be said for the fact that not a single multicultural society has ever withstood the test of time. Ethnic nationalism - or separatism, if you will - is the only effective way to peacefully resolve chronic social conflict in a globalized world. As a Christian, the Bible even commands believers to organize in such a manner as the optimal environment for faith to flourish, and thus unify, the tribes of the earth.

To MidWest: White nationalism is not racism against Hispanics. Enforcing immigration laws (the laws your own people enforce in your own ancestral homelands) is not "right-wing radicalism" - it's common sense. White people pursuing White interests is not "right-wing political extremism", but rather a mirror of your own political group strategies. I think your heart is in the right place and you're open minded enough to evolve on many issues, but your Overton Window is dangerously out of place.

I don't support Trump because I'm white and I think he's going to help white people. I support Trump because he's an American and wants to help Americans. If you flipped the script and had millions of low-income Canadians spilling into Washington and New York, I'd still support Trump.

I get what you're trying to say, but I disagree with that bit.

It's interesting the differing views of Trump's interaction with Ramos on Fox this morning. Some are saying he was absolutely right to kick the disruptive reporter out while others, while not outright saying he was wrong, are couching their words in such a way that you can tell they think he should not have called out a reporter.

Interestingly some guy did something similar to Obama a while back and he was lauded for shutting the reporter down.

Anyone trying to interrupt Trump was due for that, but the fact that it was Ramos brought a bigger smile to my face. That guy's only interest is flooding the country with as many Mexicans and Central Americans as possible, and posturing about it SJW style if you dare to disagree, so seeing Trump refusing to kowtow to him was great.

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Pro-Mexican agenda? What's that? I've never heard of a "Mexican agenda". Maybe you know something I don't. Mind filling me in?

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Well I do have a soft spot for Latinos because surprise surprise I'm Hispanic

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Also I didn't know being biased towards Mexicans made me a "SJW", that's a funny one.

As if on cue, here comes the standard SJW response of snark and sarcasm instead of actually responding to Rio's post.

Getting back to that idiot Ramos--he's no crusader for the Mexican people. He's fighting for the 11 million illegals because it fills his own pocket, and in doing so attempted to steal Trump's stage. He should be banned from all future Trump press conferences due to his selfishness.

Illegals only have one channel they can understand and thats Univision. And before they booted Trump's Miss Universe pageant at least the poor migrant workers had something they could enjoy on TV after 15 hours in the fields. Think they'd rather wack off to Miss Guatemala or look at Ramos all night? Once Trump deports the illegals Ramos is out of a job.

MidWest isn't an SJW, he's loyal to his tribe. I get it. I respect it. But don't expect us to grovel and suck up to you like pussy leftists. Lying and trying to shame us isn't going to work like it will on most pansy white people so come at us on equal ground with truth and we'll debate if that's what you want to do.

Moving on, I think Trump handled this situation exceptionally well. He kicked Ramos out until he could behave, then invited him back in and took him on head on. He came out looking like a man in charge and made Ramos look petty. All those people who said Trump is thin-skinned got proven wrong because Ramos obviously has it out for him and he debated the guy right in the press conference!

I do admire Ramos for his balls, though. I wish we had journalists who would stand up for us like that to the jackasses selling this country down the river.

(08-26-2015 03:24 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  MidWest, stop trying to put your bullshit spin on it.

It isn't "weird" at all that he was kicked out. He stood up interrupting other journalists and refused to sit down and wait his turn. What's weird about kicking him out for that?

Also, you're making shit up. Trump didn't say he didn't know who he was. He said he didn't know much about him and didn't think he'd ever met him.

You're always trying to spin stories to fit your bullshit pro-Mexican agenda. You come into these threads with your weak, and completely transparent, comments to try and stir shit, and then pretend that you're not. Our very own RVF SJW.

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Bullshit spin? I don't know about all that. Maybe opinions some of you guys don't like seems more fitting .

You know exactly what he's talking about. It's the way you keep trying to slant everything. You ignore questions about Ramos's motives and say things that make it sound as if he's for anything other than flooding the US with blood sucking illegals. YEAH YOUR PARENTS ALSO and I'm sure you're no angel here either.

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Pro-Mexican agenda? What's that? I've never heard of a "Mexican agenda". Maybe you know something I don't. Mind filling me in?

See the above. As was pointed out by others La Raza (the race, how fitting) promotes illegals coming here to suck off the system. Many of the hispanic population think they are owed whatever they can get and do not give two shits about where that money comes from, it seems you are part of that group.

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Well I do have a soft spot for Latinos because surprise surprise I'm Hispanic, therefore of course I'm going to have some bias. Just like all of you have white bias and the Black members have Black bias, etc... This is pretty common knowledge.

You've shown your true colors. It isn't "bias". You don't give a shit about the U.S. What you care about is getting yours and like Ramos flooding this place. You keep saying Trump appeals to the "far right" as if it's not a common interest across the board for ALL Americans to have a border and control over immigration.

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Don't get me wrong. I like Trump. Not political wise (think his policies are horrible) but I like him as a person. His bravado, his alphaness, his ability to rile up the far right. His success as a businessman, his ability to pull exotic dimes, his no nonsense attitude. There's a lot to love about Trump, hell I even think he got the short end of the stick at the Republican debate. But he did talk real greasy and dirty about my Mexican homies for political gain, so of course I'm not down with that, I'm not a self-loathing person. I wish him well and all the best in his campaign.

And here we go, it's been said over and over he was talking about illegal immigration, and you sit there and throw out an SJW talking point like you haven't heard this before. Low class, poor, uneducated, people flow across that border, whether they are "good" people or not they are a DRAIN. EDIT and many many scumbag criminals

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Also I didn't know being biased towards Mexicans made me a "SJW", that's a funny one. Should I instead get on my knees and roll out the red carpet for the far right-wing crowd? Should I roll-over backwards and give my ass to the white nationalists out there? No thanks. I'm good on that. Call me "SJW", call me whatever you want, but I'm my own man.

The left's and SJW's whole premise is that somehow the U.S. owes the rest of the world social programs paid for by the US taxpayer and that it's everyones's right to come suck off the tit of the productive person. It's real clever of you to act like you don't know what and SJW is and then go to extremes saying that the only alternative to the SJW viewpoint is to be supportive of white nationalists (more SJW talking points). You aren't your own man, you were paid for by this country's welfare. And now that we see what you really think of the people here I hope you are stripped of that birthright citizenship and thrown out on your ungrateful ass.

(08-26-2015 05:00 AM)MidWest Wrote:  Trust me, I could give two shits about other groups. If people want to be white nationalists, or Black supremacists, knock yourselves out for all I care, just don't expect me to agree with you.

That's my little rant for tonight. Peace out!

Yeah, you made it clear that you don't give a shit about anyone else except Mexicans and you think that everyone is going to their little race parties and being "white nationalists" or "black supremacists" the same as you. Here's a news flash for you; most people on this board no matter what color just want the US to be a place that isn't drowning in debt, with a productive workforce that gives people the chance to make something for themselves.

So, did his outburst buy his daughter a job with Hillary's campaign? Seems likely.

Quote:"SURPRISE! Jorge Ramos’s daughter works for Hillary campaign"

That is why I am disclosing that my daughter, Paola, has accepted a position working with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/surpris...-campaign/

Quote:I don't support Trump because I'm white and I think he's going to help white people. I support Trump because he's an American and wants to help Americans. If you flipped the script and had millions of low-income Canadians spilling into Washington and New York, I'd still support Trump.

As would I.

Personal ideals aside, a nation is only as strong as its weakest link. I think most of us here recognize that the past can't be changed and that there is no utopia. Trump's message appeals to the majority of Americans (regardless of background) which strengthens the country as a whole. An important part of reversing our decline, however, is providing the demographic majority with a voice and a platform for self-advocacy. My post isn't a call for Stormfront nationalism, but rather, an explanation why it's a healthy thing for all groups to have a voice in our democracy.

How laughable. Guy acts extremely rude and arrogant in a question & answer. Sure enough his daughter is on the opposition's side.

I thought Trump held great frame. He didn't raise his voice or curse. (I certainly would've and I'm sure many other posters are impressed by how well Trump kept his cool)

The immigration thing is a great tactic. The people most affected by it can't vote. As such despite their being an overwhelming amount of people who would instantly not vote Trump, those people are stumped while the people it benefits can vote.

The illegal immigration in the US is laughable. Look at the number of fraud claims in South Florida...(Medicare, tax return fraud, insurance fraud alone) It really is laughable.

Ex. http://documents.jdsupra.com/98f03823-90...031024.pdf

I know Cubans who I knew in Cuba. They took advantage of the wet foot dry foot rule. (Not really illegal immigration but their actions on arrival would also be done by illegal immigrants) In under 2 years upon arrival they are purchasing New Model Ferrari's and Lambos, Boats worth 6-7 figures etc. How is that remotely possible for guys who have no education and have low paying jobs. I.e. cell phone store, grocery bagger etc. I can only imagine how bad this all is when you factor in all of the illegal immigrants coming from a myriad of countries. Half them have no apparent employment.

If just looking at their facebook pages I can figure out something is fishy how is the US government not acting on this.

I think Trump will do good for "Americans." The only problem he is going to have is all the woman who will vote Hillary just because shes a woman. Personally I think he is the best presidential option and will do the best job of improving the economy and thus making America a richer place.

Ted Cruz would be an interesting pick but I'm not sure he's the winning one. He should probably get the 2nd most popular candidate as a running mate to garner more votes that way.

Heartiste:

Quote:The Trumpening is quality awesomeness. A breath of political air so fresh it fills the lungs to bursting. I hope it lasts.

If Trump is riding high in the polls and attracting cheerfully wholesome supporters brimming with a genuine emotion they haven’t felt in decades for any GOP cuckservative, maybe, just maybe, it’s because Americans — normal, psychologically healthy Americans at least — prefer a Big Swinging Dick to a Frail Limping Wrist. In the land of the beta male feeb, the alpha male with brass balls is king.

As long as Trump kicks cuck ass and takes ruling class names, CH will post about him. If you don’t like it, go back to Univision.

PS Scott Adams on Jorge Ramos’ (a White Mexican elite) perp walk.

PPS I predict we see another bump up in Trump’s poll numbers following this latest display of effortless alphatude. Trump is like fresh water to a people parched from years roaming a cultural landscape full of supplicating man lets.

(08-25-2015 02:21 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  If he loses I'm not going to be happy. I'll probably join some fringe group of lunatics.

You're saying you'll join the fringe group of lunatics in the future tense?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/d...index.html

Quote:Washington (CNN)David Duke, the anti-Semitic former Ku Klux Klan leader, praised Republican front-runner Donald Trump for his immigration policy proposals and said Trump is "the best of the lot."

After ranting about "Jewish supremacy" and Jewish domination of the media, Duke took time out of two of his radio programs last week to talk up Trump's candidacy as a "great thing," praising the Republican candidate's plan to deport the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.

"Trump is really -- he's really going all out. He's saying what no other Republicans have said, few conservatives say. And he's also gone to the point where he says it's not just illegal immigration, it's legal immigration," Duke said last week on his radio show, also pointing to Trump's plan to put more restrictions on work visas to ensure Americans are hired before foreigners. Buzzfeed News first reported the comments on Tuesday.

Duke, who previously served in the Louisiana statehouse and ran for U.S. Senate in that state, did not endorse Trump and said Trump remains untrustworthy for his "deep Jewish connections" and support for Israel.

Trump, whose daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism and is religiously observant, has been very vocal about his support for Israel and has slammed President Barack Obama's administration for strained relations with the Israeli government.

CNN has reached out to the Trump campaign for comment.

Trump this year was honored with the "Liberty Award" by The Algemeiner, a leading Jewish newspaper in the U.S., for his contributions to the U.S.-Israel relationship.

Duke said that while he was unsure about the sincerity of Trump's views, he said he was glad Trump was bringing the issue of immigration to the fore.

"I don't think he's trustable ... but at the same time, great, I don't care what his motivation is on this issue, at least it's being discussed," Duke said on his program.

^ Looks like the assault of the MSM has entered phase 3.

Phase 1, make fun of him an try and portray his run as less than serious - didn't work;

Phase 2, try and discredit him with gotcha type questions cherry picked from his past (Twitter feed, the Apprentice, his divorce) - also didn't work;

Phase 3, link his platform to racists and bigots. I anticipate seeing more white supremacists sought out by the MSM and being goaded to endorse Trump (which this guy did not by the way).

These are all from the standard media playbook. So far they've been no match for Trump, but they are escalating the mud-slinging.

I am fascinated as to who will win the contest of wills here.

Eh. Trump is going to shoot himself in the foot one way or another. Cruz is taking home the nomination.

(08-28-2015 07:45 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  How IS trump polling with Hispanics, blacks, and women? I haven't seen any breakdowns of the numbers.
Does anybody know where you can find them?

Well there are many different polls being conducted now, some nationally, some in particular states. Some polling companies will break down results in different ways.

Here is a recent national poll http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-event...aseID=2274



It would be useful in interpreting these numbers to compare them to Romney/Obama last cycle:



The above is from national exit polls after the election. You'll see that the polling numbers now have a lot of "undecided" or "some other candidate" but when it comes down to the election you'd expect that to dissipate.

Really, Trump vs. Clinton does not look too much different from Obama vs. Romney right now.

(08-28-2015 07:45 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  How IS trump polling with Hispanics, blacks, and women? I haven't seen any breakdowns of the numbers.
Does anybody know where you can find them?

I saw some polling numbers that indicated that Trump is doing better than any other Republican candidates with women.

However, he is indeed unpopular with Hispanics as his critics state. I think I saw a -51 unfavorability which is absolutely terrible.

To put that into perspective: the Hispanic vote is about 10% of the total, and Republicans have got in the low 30s the last couple of elections. So if Trump gets only 20% of the Hispanic vote and another candidate would have got 35%, then the GOP is down 1.5% nationally due to that factor. It's not great, but not a knockout blow especially if Trump is bringing out enthusiastic white voters in big numbers.

I think the real problem in the general would be that Democrat voters hate and fear Trump, and would turn out in big numbers to make sure he doesn't get in, whipped up by all the fury that the MSM, Huffington Post and FaceBook shares can provide. He would need to have a massive wave of his own to counter this.

(08-28-2015 08:06 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 07:45 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  How IS trump polling with Hispanics, blacks, and women? I haven't seen any breakdowns of the numbers.
Does anybody know where you can find them?

I saw some polling numbers that indicated that Trump is doing better than any other Republican candidates with women.

However, he is indeed unpopular with Hispanics as his critics state. I think I saw a -51 unfavorability which is absolutely terrible.

To put that into perspective: the Hispanic vote is about 10% of the total, and Republicans have got in the low 30s the last couple of elections. So if Trump gets only 20% of the Hispanic vote and another candidate would have got 35%, then the GOP is down 1.5% nationally due to that factor. It's not great, but not a knockout blow especially if Trump is bringing out enthusiastic white voters in big numbers.

I think the real problem in the general would be that Democrat voters hate and fear Trump, and would turn out in big numbers to make sure he doesn't get in, whipped up by all the fury that the MSM, Huffington Post and FaceBook shares can provide. He would need to have a massive wave of his own to counter this.

Trump's biggest problem is actually that the elites in the Republican Party don't want him to be the nominee and will actively work against him if it becomes obvious that he is going to be the nominee on votes alone.

This is his biggest hurdle and it is not one I am sure he will easily clear.

Relevant:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dona...s-of-doom/