(05-11-2016 10:06 PM)greekgod Wrote:  However, my two cents, an RVF titled Superpac is a terrible idea. Like it or not, there was a linguistic kill shot assigned to us back in February. The HAG group would have a field day with that. Women are a sensitive topic for the campaign right now.

Of course we all know its complete nonsense. Roosh's conference was on point and laughed at their assertions. How many people would watch that? Not enough.

So yeah, do it. RedPill Superpac, High Energy Pac, I Got a Fever and the prescription is more MAGA Superac, etc, etc. Just not something that just got media roasted.

We would never call it by the forum handle, that would be stupid indeed.

I like High Energy PAC.

(05-12-2016 12:59 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  Instead of a superpac, how about we just make a whole bunch of videos? Pool funding for them, I'm sure there's plenty of skills present on this forum to corroborate for music, editing, graphics, etc. They can be long, short, dread filled, hope filled, awe inspiring.
Make a thread for ideas, get groups together on slack to work on individual videos.

Spam them all over, maybe they'll go viral.

This way we keep our money in house and control the content being produced. No need for a superpac.

That's not a bad idea, except that viral videos and the like are too diffuse.

If you're really a Trump supporter at the grassroots, you want all of your efforts concentrated (law 23) on "the big 6" - Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan. You want to reach out to the people there, tailor ads for the people there, hold events for the people there, persuade the people there.

Make no mistake, the election in all likelihood is going to be decided there.

A few pages back we heard some talk about the "libertarian states" of New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado, and I agree those could be up for grabs too, but I don't think they play to Trump's issues so well, and their electoral votes are sparse.

It should be all about those 6.

(05-12-2016 08:12 AM)sixsix Wrote:  It's this election's biggest dilemma for all of us:

Option 1. Clinton gets arrested and imprisoned for her crimes.

Option 2. Clinton is nominated and gets publically schlonged into an aneurysm during a debate.

I cannot choose!

Seriously, what would be more gratifying than seeing her demolished by Trump? Well, maybe seeing her convicted and finally have everyone know, including her rabid supporters, what an immoral woman she is. Can you image the debates, though? Would be glorious. Would she cry? Would she attempt to physically attack him only to trip and break her hip?

Dear FBI (we know you're all reading this forum), can you please go for an alternative option?

Option 3. Clinton is nominated, gets schlonged and is then arrested. Off to gitmo!

Much appreciated, love, RVF.

The PAC must have the word America/Americans in it.
-High Energy America PAC.
-Americans First PAC
-Truth for America PAC
-The American People PAC

"High energy" is aspirational. It creates a vision and a calling.

"America"/"Americans" creates the desired in-group.

High energy for America?
Americans with high energy?
High energy Americans?

"The American People" PAC is pretty damn good too. No explicit calling but the positive vision with an in-group is unmistakable.

Ideally Hillary would be nominated before she's indicted. Berniepeople won't vote for Crooked Hillary, but the other way round? It's possible.

But wouldn't the party nominate the guy in second place if Hillary gets schlonged? Or isn't that legal?

A government student sent a glorious open letter to Trump through Mike Cernovich:
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/730541669041373189

In response to this pathetic letter from a government teacher:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nick-grego...95866.html

(the "Dear Mr Trump" at the beginning is a misleading mistke. It should have been "Dear Mr. Gregory and Mr. Trump", then clarifying "you" with Mr. Gregor in parenthesis)

(05-12-2016 08:12 AM)sixsix Wrote:  It's this election's biggest dilemma for all of us:

Option 1. Clinton gets arrested and imprisoned for her crimes.

Option 2. Clinton is nominated and gets publically schlonged into an aneurysm during a debate.

I cannot choose!

Seriously, what would be more gratifying than seeing her demolished by Trump? Well, maybe seeing her convicted and finally have everyone know, including her rabid supporters, what an immoral woman she is. Can you image the debates, though? Would be glorious. Would she cry? Would she attempt to physically attack him only to trip and break her hip?

Dear FBI (we know you're all reading this forum), can you please go for an alternative option?

Option 3. Clinton is nominated, gets schlonged and is then arrested. Off to gitmo!

Much appreciated, love, RVF.

Option 2 because President Trump will get 1 done also, he's already hinted at it.

Also, he would beat Sanders too, but even idiot Biden would be a better Candidate for the Dems than Clinton.

Bring Clinton on, let's enjoy this and a few years of trying to bring America back (too bad it's too late) ... one last hooray where we say fuck you to all the people that have been full of so much shit for years, destroying our country.

Lou Dobbs roasts Paul Ryan!

Quote:A JOINT STATEMENT FROM HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN AND DONALD J. TRUMP

The United States cannot afford another four years of the Obama White House, which is what Hillary Clinton represents. That is why it’s critical that Republicans unite around our shared principles, advance a conservative agenda, and do all we can to win this fall. With that focus, we had a great conversation this morning. While we were honest about our few differences, we recognize that there are also many important areas of common ground. We will be having additional discussions, but remain confident there’s a great opportunity to unify our party and win this fall, and we are totally committed to working together to achieve that goal. We are extremely proud of the fact that many millions of new voters have entered the primary system, far more than ever before in the Republican Party's history. This was our first meeting, but it was a very positive step toward unification.

Edit: Paul Ryan really fucked up there. He's not a big shot. He resists the probable nominee while actual big shots of the party are starting to support the front-runner. Not good for your career and it makes you wonder who is calling the shots for Ryan. We all know he didn't fight his way into the Speaker role, he got placed there and that only happens when the people that do have power have power over him (also: Obama, Rubio).

I think Trump is playing this quite well.

Come on we all know that Hillary will never see a day of prison in her entire life. I'd be surprised if she will even be admonished for any misdeeds by a senate hearing at the end of the day.

This is all wishful thinking and a naive believe in the U.S. justice system that completely downplays politics and the power of the institutional elite.

I doubt she'll be charged with anything and she'll skate on all issues brought up. She might pay a "fine" and have her people spin some elaborate story about how it was all an accident then receive an official soft reprimand by whoever is in power. That's best case scenario.

As much as we all want Hillary to go down in flames, her being indicted would be the worst possible thing that could happen to Trump winning the presidency. People hate Clinton with a passion, and she'll get absolutely demolished against The Donald.

I said this I think as early as page 100 or so on here, we do not want to face Biden in the election. It would be practically impossible to attack a guy that didn't want to run because his son died, but was "forced" to run for the better of his party. He'd get just as much financing as the old hag would get as well.

If Bernie is the nominee, it's probably just as tough to win. The old socialist faggot will be screaming class warfare left and right and claim that it's people like Trump that are preying on the poor.

As much as I despise Clinton, we need her on the ticket come November 4th.

(05-12-2016 10:42 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Quote:A JOINT STATEMENT FROM HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN AND DONALD J. TRUMP

The United States cannot afford another four years of the Obama White House, which is what Hillary Clinton represents. That is why it’s critical that Republicans unite around our shared principles, advance a conservative agenda, and do all we can to win this fall. With that focus, we had a great conversation this morning. While we were honest about our few differences, we recognize that there are also many important areas of common ground. We will be having additional discussions, but remain confident there’s a great opportunity to unify our party and win this fall, and we are totally committed to working together to achieve that goal. We are extremely proud of the fact that many millions of new voters have entered the primary system, far more than ever before in the Republican Party's history. This was our first meeting, but it was a very positive step toward unification.

Edit: Paul Ryan really fucked up there. He's not a big shot. He resists the probable nominee while actual big shots of the party are starting to support the front-runner. Not good for your career and it makes you wonder who is calling the shots for Ryan. We all know he didn't fight his way into the Speaker role, he got placed there and that only happens when the people that do have power have power over him (also: Obama, Rubio).

I think Trump is playing this quite well.

This statement must have been drafted before they even met since it came out so quickly after their meeting.

(05-12-2016 11:01 AM)captain_shane Wrote:  As much as we all want Hillary to go down in flames, her being indicted would be the worst possible thing that could happen to Trump winning the presidency. People hate Clinton with a passion, and she'll get absolutely demolished against The Donald.

I said this I think as early as page 100 or so on here, we do not want to face Biden in the election. It would be practically impossible to attack a guy that didn't want to run because his son died, but was "forced" to run for the better of his party. He'd get just as much financing as the old hag would get as well.

If Bernie is the nominee, it's probably just as tough to win. The old socialist faggot will be screaming class warfare left and right and claim that it's people like Trump that are preying on the poor.

As much as I despise Clinton, we need her on the ticket come November 4th.

Exactly. Wishing for a Clinton downfall during the election cycle is like wanting to cut off your own head to spite your toenail. She's just a fucking puppet politician, no different from any of the other 500+ bought and paid for phags who pollute our government. Trading the future of the country to enjoy momentary glee at the downfall of an utterly replaceable puppet in the puppet masters' arsenal is the pinnacle of short sightedness. I say let the hag run, that way we actually have a chance to stick it to the true villains, the Blankfeins and Soroses of the world.

More brilliance from Scott Adams
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/14410513830...ogy-gambit

The Apology Gambit
When you are Donald Trump, apologizing is a bad strategy, even though apologizing makes perfect sense for other types of leaders. Other leaders are not emphasizing their deal-making skills. Trump is playing an entirely different game of persuasion.

Now here’s the interesting part. Given Trump’s reputation for not apologizing, he can create an unusual amount of attention if he ever breaks pattern. A sincere Trump apology – about anything – would control the news cycle for a week. So he can save that magic bullet until needed.

Just for fun, let me tell you how he could use the Apology Gambit to help solve his biggest problem – his negatives with women. Specifically, Trump could apologize for all of the offensive things he has ever said about women.

But to be persuasive, here’s the best form:
Example Trump Apology Gambit:

Trump: I have said a lot of offensive things about both men and women.

(This frames the issue as Trump insults everyone.)

Trump: But today I would like to apologize to women.

(There’s your news juice. He EXCLUDES men from the apology. What???)

I apologize to women for all the offensive things I’ve said in the past. I’m an equal-opportunity offender, but I understand the sensitivity when it crosses gender, and I apologize to women for that. No one respects women more than Donald Trump.

(Sincere apologies are persuasive.)

Trump: And I call on Hillary Clinton to do the same, and apologize for her mistreatment of the women her husband abused.

(That’s the trap. In this hypothetical, Trump reframes the gender issue so we see that Trump is an equal opportunity offender, but only with words, whereas Clinton has an alleged history of mistreating women with actions. And Clinton can’t apologize for her alleged actions without admitting they are true.

Apologies are like catnip to the media. Journalists would make Trump repeat his sincere apology a hundred times in different interviews and debates, and they would prod Clinton to apologize as Trump suggested – which won’t happen. So the apology and the non-apology would become the dual headlines.

I’m not suggesting that Trump apologize to anyone. That is a political calculation. I’m only viewing this hypothetical example from a persuasion perspective, so you can see how some of the persuasion methods work. In this case you see several blended techniques:

1. Reframing (Trump reframes as an equal-opportunity offender, not a sexist.)

2. Sincere Apology (Apologies influence people because they demonstrate empathy.)

3. Pattern Violation (The media prefers man-bites-dog stories. Any break in pattern will control the news cycle.)

4. Deputizing the Pundits (Omitting men from the apology creates a men-versus-women contrast in which men don’t seem to need apologies. What? This would create lots of pundit chatter in which everyone competes to say some form of “Trump is an equal opportunity offender.” That’s what Trump wants you to know. Pundits will make his case for him so long as he only apologizes to women.

5. Redirecting Energy (Trump could move the energy – the public’s attention and interest – to the question of Clinton’s non-apology.)

Persuasion is a lot like engineering. It has a lot of moving parts that have to fit together just right. The complexity of it is completely invisible to the untrained. Trump’s persuasion is almost always tightly engineered, right down to his Linguistic Kill Shots (his insulting nicknames).

And when would be the perfect time for a Trump Apology Gambit? You already know the answer to that question because Trump primed you for it. Trump could do the apology during his upcoming Megyn Kelly interview.

Bam.

Ben Carson on Trump's meeting with Paul Ryan:

They are trying to turn "cuck" into a compliment.

   

Embracing only cements their place in the world.

It's never a compliment, cuck isn't a racial slur or mean hate against anyone.

It explains the weak pathetic self you are.

EDIT: Reading that twitter feed hurts my fucking head. They are truly delusional or subtly trolling everyone.

(05-12-2016 11:43 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:01 AM)captain_shane Wrote:  As much as we all want Hillary to go down in flames, her being indicted would be the worst possible thing that could happen to Trump winning the presidency. People hate Clinton with a passion, and she'll get absolutely demolished against The Donald.

I said this I think as early as page 100 or so on here, we do not want to face Biden in the election. It would be practically impossible to attack a guy that didn't want to run because his son died, but was "forced" to run for the better of his party. He'd get just as much financing as the old hag would get as well.

If Bernie is the nominee, it's probably just as tough to win. The old socialist faggot will be screaming class warfare left and right and claim that it's people like Trump that are preying on the poor.

As much as I despise Clinton, we need her on the ticket come November 4th.

Exactly. Wishing for a Clinton downfall during the election cycle is like wanting to cut off your own head to spite your toenail. She's just a fucking puppet politician, no different from any of the other 500+ bought and paid for phags who pollute our government. Trading the future of the country to enjoy momentary glee at the downfall of an utterly replaceable puppet in the puppet masters' arsenal is the pinnacle of short sightedness. I say let the hag run, that way we actually have a chance to stick it to the true villains, the Blankfeins and Soroses of the world.

Isn't there a certain point past which the Democrats wouldn't be able to replace Clinton on the presidential ballot, even if she were to be indicted?

(05-12-2016 01:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  They are trying to turn "cuck" into a compliment.

If the cucks start saying things like "a cuck is just someone who gets off sexually by watching another man have sex with his wife or girlfriend, and there isn't really anything wrong with that because all parties are getting what they want, and a political cuck is basically the same thing but for politics, therefore I embrace being called a cuck " then they are just digging their own political graves.

Out of those, I'd choose Gingrich or Joni Ernst

(05-16-2016 04:07 PM)Enoch Wrote:  The fact that Trump has enthusiastically pumped and gently dumped so many women over the years and NOT ONE has anything bad to say about him despite him being the most famous person in the world right now.

GAME RECOGNIZED.

Trump might be the supreme alpha of our time.

Trump's real relation to women and his nature is misunderstood by almost everyone -- both by his enemies and his admirers. Some of this is due to deliberate misdirection on Trump's part; and some of it is because his exact type is an old fashioned one and not so often encountered these days.

Trump is an alpha male, of course, but what almost no one understands is that when it comes to women he is also a nice guy, and a regular Joe type. His relation to women is extremely simple and straightforward: he likes them, and more than anything else he likes being seen with them and known to be successful with them. He is a classic arm candy type, someone who is very happy with a conventionally pretty woman by his side, and quite content to be nice and gentlemanly to her at all times (as long as she is not after his money) and to keep his actual relationship with her simple and wholesome.

The idea of Trump as a playboy and womanizer is both a truth and a myth. It is a truth to the extent that he's certainly had his fair share of girlfriends, most of them more or less pretty and glamorous. But it's also a myth, in that there were always fewer of these women than he's led people to believe -- his preoccupations were always his work and his vanity and self-regard, and the idea of himself as a playboy was part of a brand that he cultivated at all times, as you can see in that hilarious and glorious "John Miller" interview.

One can also see at a glance, for example, that Trump doesn't have a trace of sexual perversity -- his tastes and predilections would be as vanilla and straight-up as one could possibly imagine. He is a classic blustery and self-promoting type whose impetuous nature conceals an underlying sweetness and even gentleness, and that, without a doubt, also characterizes how he would relate to women. Yet he is in no way a white-knight; this is just not part of his nature, he is unsentimental about women without disliking or despising them. He is a naturally temperate man, and women could get along with him easily and pleasantly; they would not be able to take advantage of him, but they would also feel no need to be obsessed with him or fall madly in love with him. This would explain why they still retain an easy and unclouded fondness of him after many years; he came through their lives as a pleasant whirlwind of male vanity, wholesome and entirely normal hetoresexuality, humor and social adeptness. It is not a combination that leaves a woman ravished or devastated; it is one that gives her sweet lighthearted memories and a quick smile.

Again, all these things are quite obvious but it seems that no one has said them; there is so much of a distorting field around Trump both in the psychotic hatred of his detractors and in the sometimes silly fantasies of his admirers that there is little room left for the reality of his loveable and in many ways surprisingly sweet personality. I think he himself barely knows what to make of all the myriad insanities that are uttered about him hourly, but with his incredible genius for life he simply chooses to revel in them, good and ill -- and that is his greatest and most winning quality of all.

(05-16-2016 03:58 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  This is the great difference in the type of man you can be, Trump vs Bill, Trump exes have always something good to say about him, they all price them how good man he was, every time the media tries to spin something using one of his exes they backfire, they tried to accuse Trump of rape by using his ex wife Ivana, then Ivana came and declared all was lies.

Now, compare to Bill, every single women bill has been with have something bad to say about him, they all hate him, their live have been destroyed after being with him, he raped many of them, yet the media does not care about these women.

You have to be like Trump, you have to end with a woman she must be in better state than before being with you, you have to end with woman, make sure not to be Bill, Bill left every women in his life destroyed, now look at the situation now, the moment Trump hit back at the Clintons for the way they treat other women they shut up.

If Trump did do 1% of what Clinton did to his women (many raped, some even ended up dead), his political career would have been dead in the water.

Compare Clinton with Gary Hart, who some of the older guys on here might remember. Hart was one of the better candidates to emerge from the Dems, with a bit of a western libertarian streak. His career was ruined by just one extramarital affair, whereas Clinton was able to push through and win his nomination despite having had a long trail of affairs (including many non-consensual). Looking back, he was an inside stooge all along.

(05-16-2016 08:13 PM)storm Wrote:  
Old poll. Trump has always a higher approval rating than congress.

You know you're a true American when you like lice, root canals, and colonoscopies more than France.

(05-16-2016 08:15 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  ...

When are you getting your Trump neck tattoo?