(05-04-2017 06:35 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Maybe it is just the memory of these years that makes difficult to change a city that has given me so much after I moved sacrificing all comfort and a good and quiet life in West. Krakow of few years ago will never come back

I hope you know the tale of the frog in the boiling pot. Either accept reality and relocate, or stay in a city that "used to be nice" for the sake of living in the past..

I was in Frantic last night.. I was actually surprised by the quality: I thought it would be bad but in fact it was much better than Trojmiasto!
Quality was high. Girls had for me the same attitude as Sopot. 7s give lot of interest and i don t have to do anything to get them. As I previously stated 8+ is a different story and i did not want to bother talking to anyone that night apart from my friends
I was just partying so I was not interested into gaming.
I did notice however that the guys are just a huge bunch of losers, that actually made me cringe.
They all look the same, dress the same, behave the same and end up doing circles around any somewhat attractive female.
The only foreign guy I saw pulling a hot 9 was just because no other guy was challenging him (she did give me the "please help me" eyes). I am sure you go there dressing differently with a group of girls you will stand out more than 95% of the guys

(05-07-2017 01:20 AM)Malo Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 06:35 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Maybe it is just the memory of these years that makes difficult to change a city that has given me so much after I moved sacrificing all comfort and a good and quiet life in West. Krakow of few years ago will never come back

I hope you know the tale of the frog in the boiling pot. Either accept reality and relocate, or stay in a city that "used to be nice" for the sake of living in the past..

Yes, I agree, but on the other end you can have a great lifestyle if you have a good job and you travel a couple of weekends/month. Ukraine and other good Polish towns are not far and occasionally you can get your "foreign flag" with female tourists or girls working/studying here - for example Belgian, American, Belarusian, Ukrainian in my case over the last year; or being lucky with girls visiting from other Polish towns or just landed in the city. If a girl has been living in Krakow for more than 6 months, then your chances will be lower.

Quote:I was in Frantic last night.. I was actually surprised by the quality: I thought it would be bad but in fact it was much better than Trojmiasto!
Quality was high. Girls had for me the same attitude as Sopot. 7s give lot of interest and i don t have to do anything to get them. As I previously stated 8+ is a different story and i did not want to bother talking to anyone that night apart from my friends
I was just partying so I was not interested into gaming.
I did notice however that the guys are just a huge bunch of losers, that actually made me cringe.
They all look the same, dress the same, behave the same and end up doing circles around any somewhat attractive female.
The only foreign guy I saw pulling a hot 9 was just because no other guy was challenging him (she did give me the "please help me" eyes). I am sure you go there dressing differently with a group of girls you will stand out more than 95% of the guys

I am glad that you have enjoyed! Maybe all girls went there yesterday since other venues were massive sausage fests yesterday night. Definitely disagree about quality (dream and ego in Sopot have arguably better quality and better ratio). Competition is weak I would say everywhere but anyway as you live in Poland you should know that initial interest =/= getting a girl in your bed.

Giacomo -- it's sad to hear that things have changed so much over such a short period. At least try to take the positives - you did experience it when it was great. I for one did not, but I know the feeling of things being much better with girls not so long ago, just by living in the US over the past 10 years, before smartphones and internet attention whoring took off.

I agree with Malo; it is hard to accept but you are the frog in the slowly boiling water. You don't have to forget what Krakow has given you, but you might have to let go of it now, for your sanity.

Sleek2b, if you live somewhere in Trojmiasto, may I ask you ask you something?
Apparently there should be a week in late June were all students around Trojmiasto gather up in Sopot and party there. A cousin of mine witnessed this a couple of years ago, can you confirm this? If this is correct, do you know which date this occurs?

(05-07-2017 08:08 PM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  Giacomo -- it's sad to hear that things have changed so much over such a short period. At least try to take the positives - you did experience it when it was great. I for one did not, but I know the feeling of things being much better with girls not so long ago, just by living in the US over the past 10 years, before smartphones and internet attention whoring took off.

I agree with Malo; it is hard to accept but you are the frog in the slowly boiling water. You don't have to forget what Krakow has given you, but you might have to let go of it now, for your sanity.

I like to see the half full glass rather than empty. This "no-limit" series of flakes (for instance, yesterday and today two different girls after giving confirmation, deleted a date a few hours before the randez-vous) and the spread of dumb behaviors/entitlement/bad reactions...leaves me concentrating to improve myself since I gave up on the fact that the environment around me is toxic and compromised, and there's nothing to be done.
I have never been so motivated in self improvement: going to gym constantly, get a better look, organizing trips, eating healthy and making money. I am pretty sure that my game stepped up dramatically when a few years ago I was able to deal successfully in terrible clubs with 80% of men.
I had the confirmation that actually my game is getting better when going to trip in Czech Republic last month, we were standing out in the crowd, I was able to pull easily and even having cute girls asking me to dance (not joking - never happened to me in Poland).
I can understand as well the situation in America, but it is important to evaluate that when you "escape" from a toxic environment, and then you are looking that exactly the same shit is happening a few years later in a place that once was good, is disappointing.
This week should be good since there is the Juwenalia, if this endless winter and shitty weather will finish, we could see again many girls in the clubs to party.

I will be in Wroclaw from tomorrow till Sunday. I will try to sneak into Juwenalia and later hit the clubs.

Any suggestions for currently good bars and clubs despite Pasaz Niepolda?

If anyone wants to join at nightgame write me!

^ PM'd

Any other RVF crew in Wroclaw ? I'm here for another 10 to 20 days, I do both day and night game

(05-04-2017 06:35 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  @Phoenix: thing is that in the nearest countries (CR and UA) being a foreigner from a wealthy (not third world) country is an advantage while in Poland is a disadvantage and you have to overcome that with various strategies that might make you really wondering about the mental health of many girls and why they prefer a needy, ugly and poor guy over a foreigner who is making his "homework". Poland under this point of view is terrible, luckily there are also foreign girls here in Erasmus or working, this is kind of fresh air in the desert.

Its a good point that you and Pointer made about foreigners gaming there and even looking for relationships in Poland. Although its hard to believe that places like the Czech Republic is easier on foreigners despite having a more western outlook and being possibly richer. Considering the hard Polish language, I am not sure how much of a lure Poland has anymore.

Hey just arrived in Warsaw! first time...

Any suggestions on bars and daygame areas? what days are good?...

Some body up to go day gameing?

sleek you were down for Hardwell? Frantic was good that night.

(05-09-2017 01:38 PM)fdrc28 Wrote:  Hey just arrived in Warsaw! first time...

Any suggestions on bars and daygame areas? what days are good?...

Some body up to go day gameing?

Nowi Swiat is probably the best area to Day Game. Best Bars are also on that street or Mazowiecka! Today is wednesday, so you must go to Klub Park: Erasmus party, 10 Zloties with open bar of Beer until 1 a.m. or something.. worth it. Enjoy!

(05-10-2017 08:10 AM)goncalo999 Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 01:38 PM)fdrc28 Wrote:  Hey just arrived in Warsaw! first time...

Any suggestions on bars and daygame areas? what days are good?...

Some body up to go day gameing?

Nowi Swiat is probably the best area to Day Game. Best Bars are also on that street or Mazowiecka! Today is wednesday, so you must go to Klub Park: Erasmus party, 10 Zloties with open bar of Beer until 1 a.m. or something.. worth it. Enjoy!

Thank you brother!!!... I will check it out! vc moro aqui?...

(05-10-2017 12:54 PM)fdrc28 Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:10 AM)goncalo999 Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 01:38 PM)fdrc28 Wrote:  Hey just arrived in Warsaw! first time...

Any suggestions on bars and daygame areas? what days are good?...

Some body up to go day gameing?

Nowi Swiat is probably the best area to Day Game. Best Bars are also on that street or Mazowiecka! Today is wednesday, so you must go to Klub Park: Erasmus party, 10 Zloties with open bar of Beer until 1 a.m. or something.. worth it. Enjoy!

Thank you brother!!!... I will check it out! vc moro aqui?...

No problem man! No Sadly, I live in Lisbon!

(05-04-2017 06:07 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 05:24 AM)Pointer Wrote:  the hottest Polish girls are always hand in hand with Polish guys.

We need to compile a list called "Things men say are country-specific rules that are actually global rules".

Actually, good thread idea:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-62568.html

Is it a global thing though ? I imagine in some countries if you learn the language you should be able to pull better quality. In Poland all the foreigners I know who have their shit together and are married or in LTR are dating well below their value. Granted a 6 in Poland is more like a 7 in Western Europe because the girls are slimmer but I still feel that they could do better all things being equal. The Polish guys I know dating hotties are not exactly players, they're actually quite beta.

Big quote on what Pointer just said.

What I noticed in Krakow is that the hottest girls are dating Polish guys, they met each other through social circles like work and university.

8s and 9s girls in Krakow prefer local guys even if they can have every handsome foreigners at their disposal whenever they want.

The niche of girls who like foreigners are the slutty ones who go at Teatro Cubano or put themselves on Tinder, usually these girls are 4s-7s maximum in terms of beauty.

Hey guys, I'm in Krakow for the next couple of days. So far, not impressed to be honest, if anyone would like to meet up and share travel stories, message me

It's funny how much these things are down to the individual - both what the individual guy likes in terms of looks in his girl, and in terms of how the guy's own look does or does not draw attention from the females. I was in Krakow for a couple of days, then Wroclaw. I was eyefucked a grand total of twice in both cities. The girls in Krakow seemed more slutty but it was marginal. I found the girls in each place to be about the same in terms of looks. There seemed to be more English-speaking foreign men walking around with Polish girls in Wroclaw - I saw maybe a dozen such couples while I was there, but didn't notice any in Krakow.

Then I took the bus from Wroclaw to Berlin (DC IC Bus - highly recommended by the way, very comfortable and only 20 EUR). Wow. Such a difference. I find the girls in Berlin much more attractive than Poland, and I was getting eyefucked regularly just walking around. My look is slightly Germanic even though I'm not from there, and even people in Poland thought I was German. I also have been dressing badly when sightseeing (I know, I know, I'm working on it): in Ukraine and Poland, that seemed to matter quite a lot to the girls, and I'd get less attention as a result, but the girls in Berlin didn't seem to care less. The girls in Berlin weren't all that well dressed themselves mostly - very much the casual jeans/sneakers type look for the most part - but that's fine with me because from my perspective, once you're in bed the clothes come off anyway.

From which I learn, there are no hard and fast rules with any of these things. The best thing to do is to go to the places yourself and just see what happens. (Trying to do that on Tinder is no longer easy, by the way - seems like Tinder is demoting accounts who use Tinder Passport to move around frequently, to the point where you end up getting no matches).

I'm 35, but can easily pass for late 20s (hooked up with a 19yr old college student last week under this premise). Is a place like Frantic going to make me feel out of place age wise?

Thanks for the latest intel. I imagine much will come down to individual experience. I will be in Krakow mid week June 12-15th if anyone is around.

Hit me up [email protected] if you guys wanna meet up for drinks

(05-12-2017 04:02 PM)OxfordSexMachine Wrote:  Then I took the bus from Wroclaw to Berlin (DC IC Bus - highly recommended by the way, very comfortable and only 20 EUR). Wow. Such a difference. I find the girls in Berlin much more attracive than Poland, and I was getting eyefucked regularly just walking around.

To each their own of course, but I've been twice to Berlin, and I don't think I've ever seen that many hipster weirdos in all of my life. Maybe I stayed in the wrong neighbourhoods or something, but I swear you could walk around there with the strangest outfit and no one would bat an eye. Girls with dozens of piercings , skrillex haircuts etc that sort of thing. Chubby girls seemed more common and I think I barely saw chicks wearing high heels + a dress like you often do in Poland. Not to mention the feminine vibe that slavic girls tend to have, that makes germanic women seem masculine in comparison.

(05-13-2017 07:13 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  To each their own of course, but I've been twice to Berlin, and I don't think I've ever seen that many hipster weirdos in all of my life.

That's definitely Berlin in a nutshell, although there's still plenty of 'normal' hot girls around. It's a big city.

German girls are obviously by far more slutty than Polish.

People who go to Poland to look for 'easy sluts', instead of to the west, are simply heavily misinformed (or just idiots).

People "get more eye-fucked" or "get quicker lays" in the west than in Poland? No kidding. "Duh" is pretty much the only word that comes to mind.

And hopefully someone doesn't give the usual "15 years ago Polish girls were much more slutty" speech now.

I'm starting to think Giacomo is a troll account, designed to ward foreigners away from Poland. No issues on my end, the less foreigners that come, the better for me.

(05-13-2017 07:13 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 04:02 PM)OxfordSexMachine Wrote:  Then I took the bus from Wroclaw to Berlin (DC IC Bus - highly recommended by the way, very comfortable and only 20 EUR). Wow. Such a difference. I find the girls in Berlin much more attracive than Poland, and I was getting eyefucked regularly just walking around.

To each their own of course, but I've been twice to Berlin, and I don't think I've ever seen that many hipster weirdos in all of my life. Maybe I stayed in the wrong neighbourhoods or something, but I swear you could walk around there with the strangest outfit and no one would bat an eye. Girls with dozens of piercings , skrillex haircuts etc that sort of thing. Chubby girls seemed more common and I think I barely saw chicks wearing high heels + a dress like you often do in Poland. Not to mention the feminine vibe that slavic girls tend to have, that makes germanic women seem masculine in comparison.

I m german and i can confirm that german girls usually have no intention to appear feminine, which results in their appearance often being "alternative style" with piercings, short hair, fat legs, and completely lacking any sexual vibe. Of course, this does not mean they are hard to get, in fact they do one night stands to compensate their non existant feminity. The only question is: Do you want to have sex with girls like this?
As for me i clearly can`t and will always prefer polish/slavik women, both on a personal and physical level.
Regarding Krakow, it can be quite hit and miss, leading to some great experiences and consequently also raising expectations. Of course it cannot keep up with these expectations all the time and i totally understand some of the previous posters` frustration.
If anyone is looking for easy lays and is generally ok with germanic girls, why don`t you skip poland and go to barcelona..i have never seen more horny female tourists in one city.

I can only say that Berlin is mostly frumpy hipsters with multiple piercings and tattoos. There are some pretty german girls there, because it's such a big city, but overall I didn't notice much to write home about. The 18 year olds look a lot better than the women just a few years older because they haven't had as much time to get ruined by tons of men, body mutilation, bad diet, leftist indoctrination etc. Most girls in Berlin who are hot are either not ruined yet (but will be)... or foreign. There are quite a lot of dykes and fags.

There's a more free, hipster kind of vibe of "do whatever you want" in Berlin, but that includes have sex (even for men who want to have sex with women) so it didn't feel as restrictive or threatening as the US/CA does in terms of potential for false rape accusations/persecution of men for expression of normal sexuality. But hey I may be wrong as I was only there a month.

Try Munich instead. It's a richer, posher city, but girls are normally friendly once you actually approach them. Or try Hamburg, Reeperbahn is absolute madness on the weekend. Why people insist on Berlin is beyond me.