I have been reading news regarding the performance of this film in the last few days
I must say, the online articles, news stories and opinion pieces online that still continue to relentlessly defend this film and attack and personally insult its critics, despite the obvious empty theatres and poor box office results, is nothing short of downright frightening.
I mean, this isn't even something regarding government policy or national security....it's a fucking stupid fiction film "for kids" at the end of the day.
I really feel like we are now living in a world where dissent of any kind (even against something as silly as a film for children at the cinema) will not be tolerated.
If we finally needed definitive proof that the government and hollywood work together as one to drive the official cultural brainwashing narrative, then the absurd situation regarding this film is it.
I was a huge Ghostbusters fan as a kid, and still am. I saw the movie last night. It wasn't...awful.
The skinny chick is a successful professor about to get tenure, when the fat chick publishes a book on ghosts the two of them wrote together years before and derails the skinny chicks career.
The fat chick repeatedly orders Chinese food and is repeatedly disappointed.
The dirty blond is randomly introduced and is exactly the type of woman I love to fuck. You can tell just by watching that she's into some crazy shit that makes you reconsider your approved list of fetishes. She has a random scene where she hits on the skinny chick.
The black chick quits her job spontaneously to work with the ghostbusters because, why the fuck not?
Thor wanders into the office, and is so dumb he doesn't know how to use a phone properly. He dresses like a hipster and is hired only because he's attractive. Skinny chick is so turned on by The Mighty Thor wearing hipster glasses without lenses that she gets so wet she's dehydrated.
The villain is a extreme omega hiding in a basement, wishing to end the world so everyone else can suffer as much as he does. He dies, possesses Thor, and then complains about how his life could have been different if he had worked out more often. I shit you not. He then leads possessed Thor, Omar from The Wire, and a bunch of national guard in a dance routine they cut from the movie and put in the credits for no reason.
The "womyn" fight their way through an army of ghosts in what might be the only full scene of the movie that didn't feel forced.
Dan Akroyd, Bill Murray, and Ernie Hudson all make cameos and steal the show. Bill Murray is a skeptic who blasts them all over tv for being frauds. Dan Akroyd tells the skinny bitch that she's an idiot for worrying about a class 5 floating vapor, and refuses to let her into his cab. Hudson is running a successful funeral home and chews out the black chick for ruining one of his hearses. Sigourney Weaver and the woman who played Janine also show up for 30 seconds. If it hadn't been for the cameos this movie would have been painful to watch. When I realized the old crew was gonna be making appearances I spent the entire movie waiting for them to show up. Hell, even the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man shows up for a minute.
Slimer fucking wins the movie. He steals the Ecto 1, takes it for a joy ride around NY, grabs a female Slimer and a crew of ghosts, and basically runs around the final act like a boss, crashing into shit and causing mayhem.
Anyway, the chicks fight the army of ghosts and set off a nuke. Turns out their efforts were in vain because Thor went and shut off the device that was summoning the ghosts.
Even in this female dominated movie, the men are the rational ones who get shit done. Slimer turning the Ecto 1 into a pimp mobile, Akroyd, Murray and Hudson all telling the new team to stop being silly bitches and stop overreacting. Thor shows the only real acting talent (and if anyone who didn't have such a strong filmography had played that role, it would have been a career killer), and saves the day by thinking logically instead of declaring all out war on the supernatural.
A sequel is definitely planned, because of course at the end there's a scene where one of the characters is listening to a recording of ghosts and says, "anyone ever heard of Zuul?"
Only watch it in theaters if a chick is willing to pay, not just for your ticket but for all the popcorn and snacks you'll need to stay occupied and entertained through 2 hours of unnecessary remake. And in case you were wondering, special effects have not improved at all in the past 30 years. Definitely no new advances in technology to be seen here.
Mad Max Fury Road may have had some feminism thrown in but the action was brilliant.
This Ghostbusters film was a solid turd floater. I know from working in a cinema that any major film which opens up to such bad intakes on the large screens are quickly moved to smaller ones and played less. The cinema is making a huge loss on both power and confectionery sales.
They do not make income from ticket sales unless you buy VIP seats. All the ticket sales go to distributors and the studio. Once the major cinema chain HQs see the abysmal takings they will reduce its presence and change times for other films to fill schedules. They would take a film with 20 people than few or none at all.
In the middle of a move, needed to kick back Saturday night and ended up seeing the movie. My theater was decently full.
This was pretty bad, but more mediocre than awful. Quite a few laughs throughout, but with an interesting twst...almost NONE of them come from the four leads!
It opened to 46M in the USA. Star Trek and Srek sequels are coming out next week. Expect Ghostbusters to make less than 60M nationally, no idea about worldwide and dvd and action figure numbers, but if they needed 350M to break even, I don't think they will come even close. I'd guess they get less then 100M gross worldwide and next to nothing on the merchandise.
(07-18-2016 12:06 PM)spokepoker Wrote: Who's idea was that photo?
Who thought it would be a good idea?
Why would a man agree to this pose?
I'm just an idiot out in the country, I don't understand this big wig hollywood stuff.
It's a gay man who desperately tries to be funny while denigrating the male gender. This is not Hollywood stuff - it's modern propaganda. The elite hire everyone who fits their agenda. It's even better if they are true believers in the cause - gays, lesbians, SJWs, marxists. Mopping up financially after Amy Pascal as she produces awful movies is still better to the social engineers than to have Red Pill directors make something that more people like, but which would not do as much indoctrination work.
Just as the media, sports and entertainment - it has long stopped being about money alone. Those branches are not for cash generation to the true trillionaires of the world. They are created and maintained for specific purposes - obfuscation, indoctrination, channeling of the interests of men into useless activities. That is why they will keep on making social justice drivel. One step back, two steps forward and then they will see how deep the public will be able to swallow the dildo this time.
Obviously if the movie makes more than 150 mio. $, then the public has learned to take the dildo a long way indeed.
They made a little less (4mill diff) than "The Secret Life of Pets" this weekend, and that movie is in it's second weekend. It cost a third to make, but made double what ghostbusters did (104mill).
I think Ghostbusters 2016 will do just fine. Just fine. It is fine.
(07-18-2016 06:28 AM)freeuser Wrote: I just found out today, that there is a Ocean´s Eleven reboot/sequel starring only women in the making.
I think it's a bit ironic that, in the process of making all-female reboots, actresses will most likely be taken even less seriously at the end of the day, since that premise suggests that women are only able to mimic the work of male actors, and are simply knock-off clones that act. The idea will sound so lame and turn people away, as it did with Ghostbusters 3 and will also do so with the Ocean's Eleven reboot, that people will quickly reject the idea of all-female casts in movies, and directors will (hopefully) learn their mistakes.
In fact, I don't really enjoy the majority of Hollywood movies nowadays anyway, whether they have male casts or mixed casts or even a bunch of scantily-clad chicks, because the directors just don't take any risks or think creatively anymore with their movies. That's understandable when the budgets for most of these mainstream movies are well into the tens of millions or hundreds of millions, meaning that the only option is to "play it safe" and release slapstick comedies or feel-good, fuzzy romances and simply barf out garbage movies that will appeal to the masses. These audiences are not really looking to watch and indulge in the film itself on any given Friday night but simply need a way to hang out with friends or do a quick movie date. Films used to be highly entertaining, intelligent, self-aware, and overall works of art, but we're seeing less of that nowadays. Don't get me wrong, there are still a lot of modern directors that are absolute geniuses. The Coen brothers, Tarantino (maybe you guys might find him to be overrated, but I have a soft spot for his films), and this new guy, Alejandro Iñárritu (you gotta check out Birdman, from 2014). But a lot of mainstream movies are just utter and uninspired garbage.
I’d have loved nothing more than to give Ghostbusters a glowing review. Seriously! Can you imagine a better troll? Extolling the virtues of a film that my loyal readership has been warring with social justice warriors over for months?
But I can’t. You see, I strive to be honest with my audience. I went into Ghostbusters with a clear and impartial mindset, like some tall, slim, and devastatingly handsome statue of justice. (But no blindfold. It would be a crime to cover up these eyes.)
Ugh, I don’t know what to tell you. Ghostbusters is terrible. It’s more obvious than the reading on an EKG-meter in Zuul’s bedroom. The only frame of reference in which this movie functions is as a meta-movie, in which the Ghostbusters franchise is treated like a vampire in a Hammer Horror from the 60s. The beloved franchise from our childhood with a stake driven through its heart, head chopped off, body burned and buried at a crossroads.
The overarching problem with Ghostbusters is that the script is a greater abomination to God than any of the demons and ghosts in the franchise. I’m sure they could have done a worse job, but they’d have to study Tobin’s Spirit Guide to summon a script from an even deeper circle of Hell.
Mostly, it’s a lack of intelligence. In the original movie, the bad guys weren’t actually the ghosts — everybody loves Slimer and the Marshmallow Man. No, the bad guys were the clueless bureaucrats in the government, who set off a supernatural crisis through bumbling and red tape.
In this film, by contrast, the enemy is all men, while the government ends up playing dad. Every man in the movie is a combination of malevolent and moronic. The chick ‘busters shame the mayor so much they end up getting government funding at the end. Like all feminists, they can only survive by sucking on the teat of Big Government.
I’ll skip over the vacuous and incoherent plot. You won’t understand it watching the movie and you won’t understand it reading my summary so who cares. This, unlike any movie I’ve ever seen before, seems to have been conceived entirely out of spite, with the result that its plot is largely irrelevant.
Let’s focus on how this movie will be interrogated by audiences: its style and politics. The weak, Twitter-style feminist quips come off as lame, unfunny, and resentful. This is especially puzzling in light of the women in the original movies, who captured the range of tough broads one finds in New York City.
Janine even acted as a Ghostbuster in the cartoon series, without it being hailed as a revolutionary act of feminist girl power. What we are left with is a movie to help lonely middle-aged women feel better about themselves after being left on the shelf. It’s an overpriced self-esteem device for women betrayed by the lies of third-wave feminism.
Despite pandering to the kind of woman who thinks misandry is a positive lifestyle choice, Ghostbusters is remarkably unkind to its female leads. Abigail is repellant and fat. Holtzmann is a clownish, lip-syncing drag queen. Erin is a forgettable, low-rent Jennifer Aniston clone. Patty is a two dimensional racist stereotype by even the most forgiving measure.
Patty is the worst of the lot. The actress is spectacularly unappealing, even relative to the rest of the odious cast. But it’s her flat-as-a-pancake black stylings that ought to have irritated the SJWs. I don’t get offended by such things, but they should.
Ghostbusters, the film acting as standard bearer for the social justice left, is full of female characters that are simply stand-ins for men plus a black character worthy of a minstrel show. Remember, the original film not only represented women well, but also had Winston Zeddemore, the character with his feet most firmly on the ground in the entire movie.
Ghostbusters is afraid to acknowledge the shortcomings of any of its female characters, perhaps fearing the wrath of their target audience, which, after all, is never satisfied. (Literally. Which is perhaps why Sony did a deal with Hostess to sell Ghostbusters-branded Twinkies.)
What we are left with is a movie completely incapable of laughing at itself. Chris Hemsworth, dumb secretary, is the only actor who betrays any sense of self-awareness. As a result, he steals every scene he’s in.
To the point of weirdness. Hemsworth’s scenes move to an entirely different beat, as if we step into a different film when he’s on screen. The timing is off, relative to the rest of the movie. But irrespective of his strong performance, Hemsworth is still there to make men look like idiots and villains.
The ladies, by contrast, bravely brandish their particle throwers like phalluses, which is a clue to where Ghostbusters went wrong.
The leads are searching for the friendly, buddyish camaraderie that men often build together, especially in dangerous jobs. This doesn’t ring true, because they aren’t dudes — even though they think, act and look like guys. These teenage boys with tits snigger at queef jokes — which no woman ever does — within the first ten minutes of the movie.
Compare the female Ghostbusters with my favorite female character of all time, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Buffy’s feminine qualities are part of her strength. She saves the world using her female vulnerability, not in spite of it. In fact, her femininity is the only thing that makes her capable of heroic feats.
The petty, two-dimensional feminist posturing of Ghostbusters is demeaning to all four of its leads, particularly when you consider how complex and interesting the film could have been with someone like Joss Whedon at the helm.
The spattering of negative and lukewarm reviews that are now piling up is brave for the leftist establishment media. These writers are risking being labelled sexist bigots, a fate worse for a liberal than running out of quinoa and humous while your vegan boyfriend is staying over.
But most of the press realizes that whatever shreds of credibility it has left would be utterly lost by giving this film an unqualifiedly positive review.
Just consider the feminist uproar directed at James Rolfe for the crime of announcing he wouldn’t see or review the movie. Rolfe was called a bigot without even doing a negative review. Feminists have invented like an innovative form of feminist pre-crime.
The feminists themselves commit plenty of crimes. Spoiler alert: they kill Bill Murray. They don’t just kill him; the movie chucks him out of a window. It’s a clumsy metaphor for the treatment of boys in college campus kangaroo courts and in general in public life these days.
This film has already killed everything good about the franchise. Murray was the final human sacrifice. Maybe he asked for his character to be killed to safely rule him out from whatever hellishly banal sequel Sony is already working on.
By the way: the special effects are horrifically lazy and ugly. Did the entire budget for this movie go into craft services? The finale is confused and feels like it’s trying to be Gremlins 2 but without any lightness of touch or character development given to its supernatural subjects.
A lack of intelligence and subtlety is the movie’s second great failing, after the poor script. The third great flaw is the bad guy. The villain in Ghostbusters is the most unsatisfying bad guy in my film memory. He is the opposite of a morally ambiguous Batman villain. There is no complexity, no backstory, just a beta-male dork for feminists to bully.
If the bad guy in Ghostbusters followed the Ghostbusters on Twitter, he would be asking for permission before retweeting their boorish, teenage boy jokes and furtively Googling findom mistresses.
Besides being stunningly handsome, friendly to the proletariat, and blessed with a beautiful singing voice, I am always months ahead of the curve. Back in early May I wrote about how terrible this film was likely to be.
Go ahead and take a few minutes to enjoy my analysis of what we knew about the film following its YouTube trailer. You’ll note the delicate hand and sensitive approach I use with the regressive left — it’s becoming my trademark!
But another trademark of mine is gilding my criticism with helpful suggestions. What director Paul Feig needed to make this picture work is a script doctor to turn groans into laughs and yawns into cheering. Although I am new to Hollywood, I think I have the skills necessary to put together a much more effective feminist Ghostbusters story.
It’s time to start again, with a movie that has integrity. So here are my suggestions for a fresh, true-to-life feminist reboot of the franchise.
1) The film should open with a team of competent male Ghostbusters coordinating their fire and deploying equipment in a businesslike manner. Their prey appears to be a screaming banshee, a nightmare specter intent on dooming all around her to death.
It turns out to be a terrible mistake: the screaming banshee is one of our female leads, angry at a restaurant server for using the wrong pronouns. She sues the Ghostbusters, taking over their whole operation, and then hires her friends to be the new Ghostbusters.
2) The Ghostbusters determine the best course is an all-female team, to secure lucrative government subsidies and Title IX certification. Like the military, they have problems finding women who can pass their rigorous testing, so they are forced to relax the physical standards for potential employees.
As a result, the two gals who aren’t beasts of burden are unable to carry their heavy proton packs into battle, and use cute motorized scooters to transport them. These are known as Ecto-2 and Ecto-3, and are each worth a cool million in merchandising.
3) Crossing the streams is not only allowed, it is encouraged. It is also renamed to ‘scissoring the streams’, blatant pandering to the film’s heavily lesbian core demographic. (I’m using the word “heavily” on purpose.)
4) An early mission for the new team will be a disturbance at a health food store. An obese female ghost is tearing the place apart, upset she can’t find anything tasty to eat. Maybe she is worried she will be late to the ghostly JC Penney sale. Anyway, she is being lectured in the health food store by the ghost of Dr. Atkins who wants her to shed weight.
The Ghostbusters capture Dr. Atkins while scolding him that “Ghosts can be healthy at any size.” The girls point the portly poltergeist toward the nearest pizza shop and try to give her a high five on the way out, but the ghost is so large she slimes them all.
5) Every Ghostbusters movie needs a scene where all the captured ghosts are released on an unsuspecting city. Our fiendishly clever antagonist will organize all the ghosts in containment to identify as living people.
The Ghostbusters face a tsunami of bad press accusing them of bigotry towards the trans-living, resulting in them releasing the apprehended apparitions to wreak havoc once again.
6) The happy memory that turns into a monster will be of comfort to the ladies. That’s right, they have to fight a giant tub of Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. To make matters worse, they won’t have their equipment to fight it, since they accused their male secretary (Brad Pitt in a cameo) of mansplaining when he suggested their put their proton packs on the charger.
They have to take this ice cream down the old fashioned way, with big spoons, crying, romantic comedies streaming on their smartphones.
7) In the final act we meet the real enemy of the female Ghostbusters— their parents’ dead hopes and dreams. Will the phantasmagorical manifestation of pure disappointment at the lack of grandchildren be too great for our stunning and brave womyn to overcome?
Will they finally show daddy, through piercings, pretension and proton packs that they don’t care what he thinks anyways? This is the sort of dramatic tension that is needed to make a successful summer tent-pole movie.
They ain’t afraid of no ghosts, but they might just be afraid of Milo. The Breitbart Tech editor has been blocked and reported on Twitter by Ghostbusters actress Leslie Jones.
Following Jones’ complaints about the messages she was receiving on Twitter and other social media platforms following the release of Ghostbusters, Milo had this to say:
Jones did not take kindly to this, tweeting that not only had she blocked Milo (despite tweeting a mere three hours earlier that she was no longer going to be blocking people) but she had also reported his account.
Leslie Jones @Lesdoggg
@Nero you have been reported I hope the lock your Acct
6:29 PM - 18 Jul 2016 · Manhattan, NY, United States
Jones went on to call one of Milo’s supporters a “racist b*tch* after he suggested that comedians shouldn’t try curtail free speech.
John S @johnnie789
@Lesdoggg @Nero how sad that a comedian would want to limit free speech. Lenny Bruce is rolling over in his grave.
Leslie Jones @Lesdoggg
@johnnie789 @Nero Lenny Bruce wasn't about hate. You racist bitch. How dare you say his name.
7:24 PM - 18 Jul 2016 · Manhattan, NY, United States
Milo, as usual, took this in his stride and retaliated with multiple tweets ridiculing Jones and her inability to accept criticism.
Milo Yiannopoulos ひ✘ @Nero
Ghostbusters is doing so badly they've deployed @Lesdoggg to play the victim on Twitter. Very sad!
7:07 PM - 18 Jul 2016 · Indiana, USA, United States
Milo Yiannopoulos ひ✘ @Nero
rejected by yet another black dude
7:17 PM - 18 Jul 2016 · Indiana, USA, United States
When asked for official comment on his blocking by Jones this is what Milo said: “She must have read my review! Honestly, this is why I say feminism is cancer. She used to be funny but being involved in a social justice dumpster fire like Ghostbusters has reduced her to the status of just another frothing loon on Twitter.”
Further ridiculing Jones, Milo said, “Imagine it: the star of a Hollywood blockbuster sitting at home reporting random people on social media for saying her movie sucked. Sad!”
Whether or not the rest of the Ghostbusters cast is planning on blocking Milo remains unknown…
Lots of the racist twitter hate being thrown Leslie Jones' way is originating from 4chan, as per usual.
The Twitter overlords have taken notice.
Milo hasn't done anything against Twitter policy but he might get axed by Twitter if he keeps egging her on. I'm sure the Twitter Trust and Safety Council is just looking for any excuse to finally get rid of him.
(07-18-2016 11:42 PM)Penta Sahi Wrote: Lots of the racist twitter hate being thrown Leslie Jones' way is originating from 4chan, as per usual.
The Twitter overlords have taken notice.
Man when will these celebs ever learn? People troll them with racial shit because they react. You don't see 4chan attacking most other black celebs because other people don't respond or get riled up.
Leslie Jones has the emotional control of an infant.
Someone was trolling the fuck out of her with retweets of fake tweets pretending to be her. This is an amazing meltdown.
I can also guarantee you if twitter bans Milo /pol/ will declare intifada.
(07-19-2016 01:13 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote: Man when will these celebs ever learn? People troll them with racial shit because they react. You don't see 4chan attacking most other black celebs because other people don't respond or get riled up.
Leslie Jones has the emotional control of an infant.
Someone was trolling the fuck out of her with retweets of fake tweets pretending to be her. This is an amazing meltdown....
So, so #Strong, so so #Brave, so so #Empowered...
Otherwise, a GB'16 event in Singapore :
Now what mob of white boys do they remind me of...?
Kan anyone Kindly Klue me in?
(07-19-2016 01:13 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote: Man when will these celebs ever learn? People troll them with racial shit because they react. You don't see 4chan attacking most other black celebs because other people don't respond or get riled up.
Leslie Jones has the emotional control of an infant.
Someone was trolling the fuck out of her with retweets of fake tweets pretending to be her. This is an amazing meltdown....
So, so #Strong, so so #Brave, so so #Empowered...
Otherwise, a GB'16 event in Singapore :
Now what mob of white boys do they remind me of...?
Kan anyone Kindly Klue me in?