(06-19-2016 02:36 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Now I don't want to pick on him too much, but most of us here can easily see that if he pulled his shit together, got slimmer, worked out, then he would be a decent looking man. If he learned some Game, then pussy would not be much of a problem for him even in the US.
I've no real interest in picking on him - the guy is utterly-irrelevant to me both on his quality of produced thought and produced art - but I'd just observed noted the gamma behaviour is his repeated Sperg-outs over Roosh.
The classic Gamma Tell is his belief that Game is somehow 'tricking' beautiful women into sleeping with us, rather than them happily-choosing to do so. In his mind, he is the alpha male, so, obviously,
we don't deserve them.
Let's go back to that 'abandoned on the doorstep guy I know'. He used to work with a locally-famous AFL player, who once played a - to my eyes - harmless minor prank on him... shit... it must be a good
five years ago now. That was all it took for him to decide AFL guy doesn't 'deserve' his fame and popularity, and in the time since then he's... man, where to begin.
I know there's more petty stuff than this, but off-hand, he's: badmouthed the guy to everyone he meets at the pub; rung the radio station pretending to be him; started asking any random young guy kicking a ball around a footy oval if they knows him; had a physical trophy made up with 'dirtiest player' and had it anonymously-delivered to him at his work; and now gets around each summer in an AFL singlet that he took into a embroidering place to have the guy's name and number emblazoned on the back of.
The player, meanwhile, hasn't interacted with my mate for a good 4 1/2 years or more in any capacity, and probably doesn't even remember he exists. See how it resembles stalking? I think my mate thinks this is
showing him or something. Jordan Owen making multiple 3+ hour anti-Roosh videos is textbook enough to barely raise an eyebrow with me by now, because I know, to a Gamma, that is Normal Behaviour.
Before anyone says, well, why are you friends with such a nutcase? I'll just say
Tribal Obligations. Some people who decide who is and isn't in the tribe don't see as clearly as others. He's not a problem for me, since I know how to 'game' his issues so as not to trigger a sour fixation upon me.
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I'm sorry to hear about your sister, Zelc. It's hard to read her from this end, could be Narcissist, could be Gamma. The difference between them is someone pretending to hold the beliefs she does for personal power over others (Narcissist) versus someone who is deliberately delusional about the nature of social reality? (Gamma)
I've spoken before about believing there has been a clear shift into Fourth Wave Feminism and how insane, petty and wilfully-delusional the resentments of Fourth Wavers seem to outside observers like us. I'm starting to think that the difference is that Four Wave Feminists are driven by Gamma Resentment, which is why they resemble children throwing tantrums over imagined phantasms rather than the adult women fighting for observable social rights styles of the previous waves of Feminism. Whether we agreed with them or not, their causes made sense to outside observers, which is why they were passed into law. But now Gamma Women are controlling the movement? Rape Culture at a 97% Female School? Fart Rape? Sexy Tabletop Figures? Mansplaining and Manspreading? "This video game character should be a female version of that character, but don't you dare make her a female version of that character."
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Let me illustrate the
Sheer Pettiness of the Gamma for you.
When I'm back home, my sister, nephew and her husband catch up with me for lunch on the weekend. I cook lunch for us due to my allergies, but he's a country tradie type and doesn't have much interest in eating anything that isn't fast food or done on a barbie.
I said I'd duck up to the shop and get him some fish and chips, and he said he'd be happy with '3 potato scallops and a battered sav'.
I never go in there, but I go in, I'm friendly. The younger girl behind the counter keeps smiling and looking downwards, but I keep chatting with everyone behind the counter.
I come back and hand him the parcel. He opens it up. "Huh, there's an extra scallop."
I shrug. "They only charged me for three. Guess they stuffed up."
"They're usually more careful."
The next weekend, I go up again for him with the same order. The girl behind the counter still can't meet my eyes. I'm a charming motherfucker to all concerned, and when I come back home he opens the parcel to find the same thing. "Another scallop?"
"Just go with it."
My sister gets this funny grin on her face and says "Is she cute?"
So the next time we got together, my Gamma Stepdad turns up just as I was about to do the run to the shop, and he starts to tell me to stay there and he'll go up instead, when my Sister and Brother-In-Law shout him down: "No! Send Bosch!"
My nephew runs in and says "Uncle Bosch always gets extra!"
They explain the situation to him and I ask him if he wants anything but he says he 'wasn't hungry'.
I duck up to the shop. Once again, I'm charming as fuck. This time the girl shoots a shy look at me as she hands me the parcel for a second, says "I put something in extra for you," then looks at the floor again.
"Why thank ya, Baby Girl." I touch the brim of my hat at her and leave.
Arriving home I see my sister run out to the driveway. She's shaking her hands excitedly, "This is so funny! Did you get your extra scallop?"
You've got to remember my sister is a
very Girly Girl.
We head back inside and my stepfather is sitting in the kitchen looking pissed off for some reason.
I drop the parcel down in front of my brother-in-law and say "Three Scallops and a Battered Sav".
He opens the parcel, and he and my sister burst out laughing. Now there are not only
four scallops but
two battered savs, meaning I now have $9 worth of food that I paid $5 for.
My nephew jumped into the room, got in my stepdad's face, said "See, I told you Uncle Bosch always gets extra!" very pedantically, then ran back out of the room.
My sister is laughing so much she's almost crying. She puts her hand on my shoulder, looks me in the eye and says "This was
every day of my teenage years."
That makes me laugh even more.
My Stepdad suddenly grunts in annoyance. "They
obviously-mixed the orders up", he says, then sits there stonefaced. Food was always his substitute for the love his mother didn't give him, so I'm starting to realise he could be triggered into gamma resentment by this, so I go back to the stove to dish out and ask him if he wants some of the stew, but, it's too late.
"No,
I'd better tell them they made a mistake. I might as well get some lunch there."
He stomps out.
When he stomps back in, he does the usual Gamma Evasion tactic of avoiding answering a direct question when I ask him if he told them they'd made a mistake, meaning,
he didn't do shit.
My sister asks him what he ordered.
"Three scallops and a battered sav."
He opens the package.
Three scallops and a battered sav.
My brother-in-law, not helping: "I guess you're not as pretty as Bosch!"
My nephew runs back in, and god love him, makes things even worse. "You should have sent Uncle Bosch! Uncle Bosch always gets extra!" Since my nephew fixates easily, I realise I'm going to have to try and train him out of saying this because, otherwise, it's going to niggle my stepdad every time.
My stepdad is trying to hide his annoyance, but then, thankfully, discounts the fish and chip shop entirely, as it didn't recognise his superior status. This is his inner kid deciding that he wouldn't want extra from them anyway.
"They look very greasy. They mustn't be changing the oil regularly. You should try the one down near the bridge next time. The guys from the Archery Club say it's the best one in town."
Look, I love the bloke, he's very caring and kind most of the time, but, see how easy it is for them to get fixated over such a minor moment of someone being treated as superior to them by getting something that they believe should be rightly-theirs? In this case, fixated enough that he was in a sour mood for a few hours after the fact. You can see why Social Justice has such an obsessive fixation over the gamma personalities out there.
If you think that's bad, you should how grumpy he gets when repeatedly comes last at Mario Kart, needing to explain to everyone how his controller 'must be malfunctioning', to the extent that I'm wondering why I have to explain to a 55-year-old man and not the 11-year-old autistic child that it's a party game aimed at children with randomised advantages to level the playing field so winning is as often based on dumb luck as it is skill. It's Everyone Gets A Trophy in videogame form.
This is the problem with Gammas. It only takes such a little thing to trigger such a big overreaction.
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Quote:Personally I don't see much future for those personalities. They will double down and ride their lives to deep unhappiness that ends in soma-drug stupor or alcohol. Essentially most of them cut their lives short just like the "treatment" of transgenders simply enforces their delusions resulting in an early suicide or self-destruction.
Yeah, I sense their time I coming to an end because there's simply no social cohesion in a society where everyone is deluded about their social status and attacking everyone else for stealing what is rightfully theirs. This of course plays into Marxist hands:
give us power and we'll make society fair and safe.
The one advantage of Gamma over Narcissism is Gamma isn't a fixed state, and can be overcome, given the right circumstances and a sense of growing self-awareness, (usually via dose of a hard reality they couldn't ignore). Unfortunately, the Gamma has to want to work to change, or their comfort has to be so shattered that they have no choice but to adapt or die.
It might yet come to that for large segments of the Millennial Population.