The Ukraine Thread III
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Shemp is acting like a little child; "I know something you don't know, I know something you don't know"
The thing is that nobody gives a damn, we're just playing along with him.
The thing is that nobody gives a damn, we're just playing along with him.
Polniy_Sostav · 2018-11-22 07:09:00 · #5000
(11-07-2018 09:07 PM)coopers317 Wrote: https://www.golfadvisor.com/course-direc...5-ukraine/
Yes, there is golf in Ukraine. From what I hear though, it is a relatively new thing. My original question was probably better suited for the general forum, as it was really more about the pros/cons of traveling with clubs in general. Ukraine just happens to be my destination.
no offense man , but i think you re quite wrong trying to force your way through this insignificant sport in a country like Ukraine.
>>You said that you don't know how successful these "sophisticated Turks" are with women at your chose social activity, so how do you know they are not sleazy types as is the status quo?
Maybe you don't know how to behave in certain social situations. I'm certainly not going to ask some guy that I just met at, let's say, a chess group, "hey, you making any headway with the women here?" But In all likelihood, these Turks are looking for wives. Most of them seem to be involved with business in Ukraine, though I don't pump for details since I'm focussed on the activity and don't much care about these Turks and what their goals are.
In case you don't know, Turkey does a huge amount of business with Ukraine. For example, I've noticed a lot of plumbing fixtures, doors, elevators and similar construction material in newer buildings is made in Turkey. I also know Turks are heavily involved in the financing, construction and owning of new buildings. One of the 3 big Telecom networks is Turkish owned. Probably a lot of these higher class Turks are thinking of combining business and pleasure by marrying a Ukrainian woman to get Ukrainian residency and better insider connection to Ukrainian society, to improve their ability to do business there. These tend to be secular Turks and having an escape route in case Erdogan gets really extreme is added motivation to make a Ukrainian connection.
As for me, I look western European. I easily pass as a native in France, since highest percentage ancestry from there, but could also easily be northern Spanish or northern Italian, maybe western German. One person who could easily pass for a Turk is the owner of this forum, with or without his beard. He didn't seem to have problems with women in Ukraine on account of his looks, as I recall from Bang Ukraine which I read long ago.
Probably there are lower class Turks who fly to Kyiv with their 6 months savings, sleep 10 to a room in some cheap shared apartment owned and managed by some other Turk, hassle women in the street for freebies, go on mongering missions to the local whore bars, strip clubs, apartment brothels, etc. That's not my thing, so I never encounter such Turks.
I was recently in Bulgaria, which has a substantial ethnic Turkish population, especially in the eastern Rhdopes. My impression of both the people and their villages was very favorable. (By contrast, never have I seen such absolute rabble as the ethnic gypsies of Bulgaria.) I also spent some time traveling in Turkey long ago (even learned about 500 words of Turkish), which also gave me a favorable impression of middle class and higher Turks. So maybe I am a little biased in favor of Turks, though of course I'm more biased in favor of slavs, which is why I send my 90 days outside Schengen in Ukraine rather than Turkey.
Maybe you don't know how to behave in certain social situations. I'm certainly not going to ask some guy that I just met at, let's say, a chess group, "hey, you making any headway with the women here?" But In all likelihood, these Turks are looking for wives. Most of them seem to be involved with business in Ukraine, though I don't pump for details since I'm focussed on the activity and don't much care about these Turks and what their goals are.
In case you don't know, Turkey does a huge amount of business with Ukraine. For example, I've noticed a lot of plumbing fixtures, doors, elevators and similar construction material in newer buildings is made in Turkey. I also know Turks are heavily involved in the financing, construction and owning of new buildings. One of the 3 big Telecom networks is Turkish owned. Probably a lot of these higher class Turks are thinking of combining business and pleasure by marrying a Ukrainian woman to get Ukrainian residency and better insider connection to Ukrainian society, to improve their ability to do business there. These tend to be secular Turks and having an escape route in case Erdogan gets really extreme is added motivation to make a Ukrainian connection.
As for me, I look western European. I easily pass as a native in France, since highest percentage ancestry from there, but could also easily be northern Spanish or northern Italian, maybe western German. One person who could easily pass for a Turk is the owner of this forum, with or without his beard. He didn't seem to have problems with women in Ukraine on account of his looks, as I recall from Bang Ukraine which I read long ago.
Probably there are lower class Turks who fly to Kyiv with their 6 months savings, sleep 10 to a room in some cheap shared apartment owned and managed by some other Turk, hassle women in the street for freebies, go on mongering missions to the local whore bars, strip clubs, apartment brothels, etc. That's not my thing, so I never encounter such Turks.
I was recently in Bulgaria, which has a substantial ethnic Turkish population, especially in the eastern Rhdopes. My impression of both the people and their villages was very favorable. (By contrast, never have I seen such absolute rabble as the ethnic gypsies of Bulgaria.) I also spent some time traveling in Turkey long ago (even learned about 500 words of Turkish), which also gave me a favorable impression of middle class and higher Turks. So maybe I am a little biased in favor of Turks, though of course I'm more biased in favor of slavs, which is why I send my 90 days outside Schengen in Ukraine rather than Turkey.
coopers317 · 2018-11-22 13:42:00 · #5002
@ PoiIny_Sostav. I appreciate your response...however, I’m actually not trying to “force” the “insignificant” sport of golf in Ukraine. It’s a sport I play and enjoy in my home country regularly. I’d play and practice in a open field alone if I had to...it’s my relaxation and thinking time. I don’t play to pick up girls.
Your response and the wording you used tell me a lot though. There is a Shakespearean saying - he doth protest too much.
Your response and the wording you used tell me a lot though. There is a Shakespearean saying - he doth protest too much.
petburi · 2018-11-26 10:34:00 · #5003
Parliament of Ukraine, due to recent tensions with Russia in Azov sea, just approved martial law for 60 days (at least).
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
Polniy_Sostav · 2018-11-26 19:10:00 · #5004
(11-22-2018 01:42 PM)coopers317 Wrote: @ PoiIny_Sostav. I appreciate your response...however, I’m actually not trying to “force” the “insignificant” sport of golf in Ukraine. It’s a sport I play and enjoy in my home country regularly. I’d play and practice in a open field alone if I had to...it’s my relaxation and thinking time. I don’t play to pick up girls.
Your response and the wording you used tell me a lot though. There is a Shakespearean saying - he doth protest too much.
pardon me if I offended you. That wasn't my intention. I am not a native English speaker by the way. I was just surprised , it is common knowledge that golf is not a popular sport outside a few countries.
Polniy_Sostav · 2018-11-26 19:12:00 · #5005
(11-26-2018 10:34 AM)petburi Wrote: Parliament of Ukraine, due to recent tensions with Russia in Azov sea, just approved martial law for 60 days (at least).
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
i think it is not in the whole country.just a maneuver before the elections... don't worry.
Philosopher · 2018-11-26 19:33:00 · #5006
(11-26-2018 07:12 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:(11-26-2018 10:34 AM)petburi Wrote: Parliament of Ukraine, due to recent tensions with Russia in Azov sea, just approved martial law for 60 days (at least).
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
i think it is not in the whole country.just a maneuver before the elections... don't worry.
At this time, it is only applied to regions which border Russia. https://t.co/GnSwFrWUGx
petburi · 2018-11-27 09:52:00 · #5007
well, the key here is "at this time". No one will stop them if they will decide to apply it countrywide.
Basically, what they did is they've established platform for military dictatorship.
Quite ironic, as the whole maidan movement started as a fight for freedom and democracy.
Basically, what they did is they've established platform for military dictatorship.
Quite ironic, as the whole maidan movement started as a fight for freedom and democracy.
(11-27-2018 09:52 AM)petburi Wrote: well, the key here is "at this time". No one will stop them if they will decide to apply it countrywide.
Basically, what they did is they've established platform for military dictatorship.
Quite ironic, as the whole maidan movement started as a fight for freedom and democracy.
They're very unlikely to apply it nationwide, they've applied it to the Oblasts bordering Russia as they claim to have evidence of a planned "Russian Invasion", They've been saying that same shit for years to get money from the West of course.
Lviv for example attracts a lot of tourists these days, Christmas is very busy, they're not going to fill the place with armed soldiers, even afterwards. Kiev is the capital and it will be business as usual there too
(11-26-2018 10:34 AM)petburi Wrote: Parliament of Ukraine, due to recent tensions with Russia in Azov sea, just approved martial law for 60 days (at least).
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
Apparently it's 30 days now , not 60
(11-26-2018 10:34 AM)petburi Wrote: Parliament of Ukraine, due to recent tensions with Russia in Azov sea, just approved martial law for 60 days (at least).
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
They should press gang or offer citizenship to the Turkish sex tourists in Kiev. Most of them already served in Turkey's army so they might do ok against Russians* (in theory: Turkish hasn't fought a real war since the 1910s).
Kiev is the best city in the world to bang hot girls.... went there a few months ago and had the time of my life. They’re not sluts you can bang easily but put in effort/don’t think you’re owed anything, and you’ll be amazed. Quality was extremely high
(11-27-2018 01:37 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:(11-26-2018 10:34 AM)petburi Wrote: Parliament of Ukraine, due to recent tensions with Russia in Azov sea, just approved martial law for 60 days (at least).
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
They should press gang or offer citizenship to the Turkish sex tourists in Kiev. Most of them already served in Turkey's army so they might do ok against Russians* (in theory: Turkish hasn't fought a real war since the 1910s).
I very much doubt it , almost all the Turks i've met have been Pro Russian when it comes to the Ukraine conflct
Philosopher · 2018-11-27 14:29:00 · #5013
(11-27-2018 11:36 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:Think Poroshenko got scared of the dictator accusations from the opposition like Timoshenko.(11-26-2018 10:34 AM)petburi Wrote: Parliament of Ukraine, due to recent tensions with Russia in Azov sea, just approved martial law for 60 days (at least).
It is not clear yet what exact consequences would that have for citizen, let alone for foreigners.
The situation will be rapidly unfolding within next few days...
This shit could become really ugly, as it's essentially state of emergency applied for the whole country.
Apparently it's 30 days now , not 60
WannaBang · 2018-11-27 16:24:00 · #5014
I'm gonna brave Kiev from tomorrow till 3rd Dec. Hopefully shit's not gonna kick off. pm me if anyone would like to grab a drink or something!
scrambled · 2018-11-27 16:25:00 · #5015
Philosopher · 2018-11-27 20:53:00 · #5016
(11-27-2018 04:25 PM)scrambled Wrote: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/about-the-late...ch-strait/
Best source I've seen on Ukie issues
Great read)
Bobkins · 2018-11-27 23:50:00 · #5017
(11-27-2018 04:25 PM)scrambled Wrote: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/about-the-late...ch-strait/
Best source I've seen on Ukie issues
scrambled · 2018-11-29 08:47:00 · #5018
It's a Russian point of view, one not based on the Satan-Putin theory of CNN
petburi · 2018-11-29 12:20:00 · #5019
that's either quite outdated source or even sarcastic one, as, for example, term Novorossia was thrown into trash few years ago.
Can someone say in plain English if Ukraine is safe now for 2 weeks to party and bang girls?
Yessssss Ukraine is always safe and the best option in the entire world
Goni · 2018-11-30 14:01:00 · #5022
(11-22-2018 12:45 PM)Shemp Wrote: >>You said that you don't know how successful these "sophisticated Turks" are with women at your chose social activity, so how do you know they are not sleazy types as is the status quo?
Maybe you don't know how to behave in certain social situations. I'm certainly not going to ask some guy that I just met at, let's say, a chess group, "hey, you making any headway with the women here?" But In all likelihood, these Turks are looking for wives. Most of them seem to be involved with business in Ukraine, though I don't pump for details since I'm focussed on the activity and don't much care about these Turks and what their goals are.
In case you don't know, Turkey does a huge amount of business with Ukraine. For example, I've noticed a lot of plumbing fixtures, doors, elevators and similar construction material in newer buildings is made in Turkey. I also know Turks are heavily involved in the financing, construction and owning of new buildings. One of the 3 big Telecom networks is Turkish owned. Probably a lot of these higher class Turks are thinking of combining business and pleasure by marrying a Ukrainian woman to get Ukrainian residency and better insider connection to Ukrainian society, to improve their ability to do business there. These tend to be secular Turks and having an escape route in case Erdogan gets really extreme is added motivation to make a Ukrainian connection.
As for me, I look western European. I easily pass as a native in France, since highest percentage ancestry from there, but could also easily be northern Spanish or northern Italian, maybe western German. One person who could easily pass for a Turk is the owner of this forum, with or without his beard. He didn't seem to have problems with women in Ukraine on account of his looks, as I recall from Bang Ukraine which I read long ago.
Probably there are lower class Turks who fly to Kyiv with their 6 months savings, sleep 10 to a room in some cheap shared apartment owned and managed by some other Turk, hassle women in the street for freebies, go on mongering missions to the local whore bars, strip clubs, apartment brothels, etc. That's not my thing, so I never encounter such Turks.
I was recently in Bulgaria, which has a substantial ethnic Turkish population, especially in the eastern Rhdopes. My impression of both the people and their villages was very favorable. (By contrast, never have I seen such absolute rabble as the ethnic gypsies of Bulgaria.) I also spent some time traveling in Turkey long ago (even learned about 500 words of Turkish), which also gave me a favorable impression of middle class and higher Turks. So maybe I am a little biased in favor of Turks, though of course I'm more biased in favor of slavs, which is why I send my 90 days outside Schengen in Ukraine rather than Turkey.
Do not give a shit too much what some people tell here about turks.
Turkey has advanced a lot in these decades and they have put themselves as a strong sate in world affairs,, plus success of turkey in cinematography, tourism, military industry, construction, medicine is to be highly valued.
Ukraine is to a certain degree a mega brothel, we all know that. They have already created that reputation, and many Ukrainian men also have their own big share of fault with what they have created, it is not just the fault of the women.
Being such a country you will have turks go there for sex tourism.
I know turks who go for sex tourism in serbia also.
I know 2 turks, who are friends of mine. that have worked with construction companies in Russia. They were half Albanian from their father side, part of the old Ottoman elite.
They told me that, many women in russia were in desperate need for sex, as many russian men were drunk or did not care about them. Some of these russian women also went near them, as gold diggers, because they knew what salaries they were getting.
I am against sex tourism myself, but these countries have paved the road for what was coming .
People also forget that turkey is a mixed nation with many nations inside.
Many of these turks are Kurds, that are poor and do not know how to game or go to eastern europe just to bang prostitutes.
Never underestimate the ignorance of the people
Btw, if you look western europan , it is very probably of you to be Albanian. There are supposed to be 5-8 million Albanians or half Albanians in Turkey, they played a huge role not just in the Ottoman empire, but also in the Rep of turkey from the formation and on.
You might also be of Bosnian heritage or Circissian, they are also e few millions.
Just a thought btw, it is not necessary for you to have any kind of relation with any of these nations.
From which part of Turkey are your parents ?
gibz · 2018-12-01 05:44:00 · #5023
I wont bite too much, but those have us that have been to Ukraine(and other places) know exactly what Turks are like
I have a Turkish friend, whenever we tell him something bad about Turks it's the same answer "They're not actually Turks, they're Kurds!!"
Didn't hear him talking about Albanians as well LOL
Turks are not necessarily bad people, but many of them are little little children, probably from being spoiled when young. It sometimes works with Ukrainian girls because they can be very simple too.
I have a Turkish friend, whenever we tell him something bad about Turks it's the same answer "They're not actually Turks, they're Kurds!!"
Didn't hear him talking about Albanians as well LOL
Turks are not necessarily bad people, but many of them are little little children, probably from being spoiled when young. It sometimes works with Ukrainian girls because they can be very simple too.