Alright, I think it’s time I create a small data sheet about my OKC experience. I can also make this a thread in the Newbie Section if folks find this useful.
How I went about OKC:
5 minutes were spent on a daily basis going through the quickmatch feature along with messaging women. When going through quickmatch, depending on my mood, I would filter out women by appearance only. If I didn’t feel like looking at each individual picture, I would just bullet click the “like” feature for everyone without looking at a single picture, then filter out those “likes” the next day.
When I filtered out the “likes” I accumulated, I would go to each profile to check out their pictures. If her picture did not meet my standards or pass my boner test, I would delete the like from the messages list and move on to the next prospect. After I filter out the profiles based on appearance, I would then read the profile to gauge whether or not this woman would be a waste of my time. After I determined her profile to be decent, I would then customize a message based upon what was said in her profile or one of her pictures.
When it came to messaging women, I only messaged women who “liked” my profile or messaged me first. This merited a much higher response rate than just stalking a profile then saying “hey, whats up?” I would consider this a warm prospect. Women who I’d message out of the blue were considered cold prospects. If anyone has ever done sales, you know that warm prospects generally lead to a higher conversion rate or sale, than cold prospects. Since I had a sales background, it made more sense for me to concentrate on messaging women who fit that
warm category.
The messages I wrote tended to sway a little more towards being humorous than articulate and thought provoking. Punctuation and capitalization were never used. You don’t need to seem like a try hard or show any emotional investment when you message your prospects. My messages would be reflective of my profile, which will be discussed later.
Even though some of these messages were probably just viewed and deleted, I still had a high response rate because we were already physically attracted to each other. After the initial message, this is where I would build the rapport necessary to get the number.
Phone numbers do not mean shit for online game. Keep that in mind when you message these women. You will either get the number after building the rapport, or you will never receive another message from her again. If you get blown out, chalk it up to the game. It happens to all of us.
Rapport can sometimes take a while, so take your time but escalate conversation so she keeps her interest. This could be over the span of 5 messages, or 85 messages. I have pulled women in both scenarios. Patience is a virtue.
When I thought it was the right time to go for the number, I would always message “would it be easier to text?” This does not directly ask for the number, rather requesting you take the messaging to a different medium. Avoid going for the number using a declarative statement like “let’s text.” or asking the “can I have your number?” question. Those generally did not work for me. I figured they come off as needy or you are demanding her to give you her number, instead of asking.
After you get the number, try to schedule a date sooner rather than later. Most prospects that you convert to text game will fall off the radar if you don’t set up a time to meet. Strike while the iron is hot. Don’t pussyfoot around trying to build more rapport. You already did that. These women have short attention spans due to multiple suitors, so you will need to confirm plans shortly after getting the number. Of course, women will flake, it is in their nature. Don’t get frustrated when things happen that are outside your control.
My Profile:
Basically, I treated my profile like a joke. I didn’t have any intellectual discussion or anything witty. My self-summary told a story about how I came to be the person who I am in the present. The stories I wrote were all bullshit. If I thought something was funny, I wrote it down and tried to incorporate it into my self-summary. Some of the stories came from my favorite comedians, or from movies. It is very easy to write an out of the box self-summary. Just make it believable enough so you will receive messages saying how funny your profile is and women asking if your story is true. I had stories about becoming a porn star and travelling across Europe. Get creative.
For the rest of the profile, I had a couple funny things added along with some true things about myself. The things I am good at section is a good way to incorporate humor and truth into your profile. For books and movies, I mixed and matched things like “One Fish, Two Fish” and “Shawshank Redemption.”
The self-summary is the most important part because it is the first thing a woman sees when she stalks your profile. The rest can be whatever you decide.
For the side information where it shows your height, last login, etc. I filled in everything except my income. Add it if you want, just my preference not to discuss my finances with anyone. For body type, there is a Used Up option that I had marked on my profile. I did have a picture of myself where I was at the beach rocking a six pack and a defined chest, so they obviously know I’m joking. I sometimes got some messages saying there is no way I am used up or damaged goods, so that can maybe work to your advantage dependent upon your body type.
To sum it up, deviate from the normal guy’s profile and write something that stands out amongst the rest. Most guys will have a profile saying that they are “smart, witty, and fun” and continue with the normal crap that encompasses an ordinary, plain Jane profile. Be the outlier that gets a woman to question your antics or stories that you have written.
Pictures:
BlurredSevens made an awesome thread about online pictures. I cannot add anything that he has not already previously written:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-45167.html
Overview:
This is what I did to make myself successful. My approach got me many notches over the time frame I used OKC. Maybe some of you are better off cold messaging or mass messaging women to set up dates. If your current method works for you, continue to utilize it.
Anyways, I hope this helps some of you while you continue to use OKC. If anyone has any questions or thoughts about their profile, messaging, etc., feel free to drop me a PM.