Quote:Why has DIA became so bad now?

Supply/demand... Sexual attraction is about value. Sexual market value in a sexual market place. Value in a market place is determined by supply and demand.
This thread alone has over 2.3 million views, the most viewed thread on the entire forum, by a huge margin.

1. Add to that all other forums, blogs and vlogs about online dating in Philippines, in the West and Korea, and you got the perfect storm on the demand side.
2. Add to that the fact that Filipinos want to leave their country and beauty is a ticket out, and you got the perfect storm on the supply side.

I can get 8+ girls in other countries by leveraging daygame. I can't get much above 6-7 in Manila now cause I see like 1 girl a week I'd rate. I've had a hot and smart one for a few months now, so keeping her around, cause it's either quantity or quality here now.

I will caveat that I think getting down with the locals is the one way to still make it happen. Which I assume is why BB still loves it. That requires a certain personality in this country though. I can do the locals thing in Latin America, but I can't do it here... pinoys are just on a completely different wavelength from most Westerners. I would assume guys who enjoy hanging with Filipino social circles and even Filipino males are ESFP or similar on the Myers-Briggs.

I could make a magazine style quiz: "Is Philippines the right country for you? Take this simple test".

1. Not too fussy about looks OR leans towards ESFP
2. Tolerant of 3rd world bullshit OR have a high budget for BGC living.

Tick these boxes? Then I would say Philippines will be your paradise.
I like BGC but I'm an INTJ and fussy about looks so I finally set my date... leaving here in 2 months.

YEMV.

I will put this here to try and get some advice from the pros. I’ve read and searched and got some tips from this forum, but I’m coming up largely empty here this time.


I’ve been in Makati for 10 days and I have 2 notches.

I can’t figure out what is happening. I’m working Filipino Cupid and Tinder hard and other than the easy responses, I’m getting a lot of American style attitude and bitch shields.

The White God syndrome has worn off. I feel like these broads are gaming me.

Any advice? What am I doing wrong?

(03-23-2019 03:08 AM)Nightcrawler Wrote:  I will put this here to try and get some advice from the pros. I’ve read and searched and got some tips from this forum, but I’m coming up largely empty here this time.


I’ve been in Makati for 10 days and I have 2 notches.

I can’t figure out what is happening. I’m working Filipino Cupid and Tinder hard and other than the easy responses, I’m getting a lot of American style attitude and bitch shields.

The White God syndrome has worn off. I feel like these broads are gaming me.

Any advice? What am I doing wrong?

You're not doing anything wrong. Makati is an oversaturated trash heap compared to Mandaluyong or QC. Only banged one girl from Makati during my stay.

QC ain't bad actually but it's local as hell with piss poor food options and the annoying looky-loo locals who lose their minds when you step into SM North or Trinoma which is why expats hate it. It wears on you especially since good condos in QC are the same price as in Makati. QC does have some nifty little shops and you are bound to rack up some more notches than staying at Gramercy (imo).

But yeah like Eddie said you need to be ultra sociable and talk to those people via the local route if you want to access quality. But being an introvert with a strong bs detector I can't stand to be around them. They are simply too irrational and dysfunctional and have incredibly fake personalities. They also won't hesitate to screw you over. The entire society operates in bad faith around foreigners especially so just sit in your condo, pick off the easy notches and leave them to their devices.

(03-23-2019 03:08 AM)Nightcrawler Wrote:  I will put this here to try and get some advice from the pros. I’ve read and searched and got some tips from this forum, but I’m coming up largely empty here this time.


I’ve been in Makati for 10 days and I have 2 notches.

I can’t figure out what is happening. I’m working Filipino Cupid and Tinder hard and other than the easy responses, I’m getting a lot of American style attitude and bitch shields.

The White God syndrome has worn off. I feel like these broads are gaming me.

Any advice? What am I doing wrong?

I'll echo Il Bersagliere even though he tends to shit on the PH every chance he gets. You're on par for Makati/Manila. I didn't believe it until I got here myself.

Here's a tip though: cut back on the online stuff and go to clubs. If you present well, you will do better. Revel, Valkyrie, Okada etc.

As others have said, try leaving Manila. Try a smaller town.

Good. . . what do you think of Revel?
The two times I was there I felt I would have had to break into a mixed group in order to approach (and probably get kicked out). I didn't get eye contact or any IOIs.
. . .random drunk gay guys hitting on me and a fat girl that came to discuss my food when I was out in the Island eating. Lol
I suck at cold approaching so feel free to tell me this is how the "normal" difficulty level should feel.

Makati its sad because the p4p girls i see with fat old foreigers are far prettier
than the local 5s the young foreigner tends to date...

The good times for sea are over thanks to the bunch of bastards hitting there and on the dating sites

(03-23-2019 09:15 AM)Davoer Wrote:  The good times for sea are over thanks to the bunch of bastards hitting there and on the dating sites

remember its the decline of the west thats the main reason,you could get laid with nice and feminine girls in the 70s and mid 80s even in western europe.. its now a global decline.

What's the reason of. That 'decline'?

(03-23-2019 09:36 AM)Davoer Wrote:  What's the reason of. That 'decline'?

leftist media who fund pro women anti men&family propaganda
the mass immigration in Us and EU
feminism movement
laws tend to favour women in the US
tinder
the internet
cheaper flights than ever, you can now fly to poland for 50 euros for example
liberal abortion laws
hollywood and kardashians etc


should i go on?

Yes those are main reasons but there is even no difference now in phils or Thailand, than in the western countries.

(03-23-2019 09:53 AM)Davoer Wrote:  Yes those are main reasons but there is even no difference now in phils or Thailand, than in the western countries.

for upper class or 7+ girls yes. minimal difference.

Has anyone been to Davao recently, and can share their experience or what to expect if you have visited it before?

(03-23-2019 03:08 AM)Nightcrawler Wrote:  I will put this here to try and get some advice from the pros. I’ve read and searched and got some tips from this forum, but I’m coming up largely empty here this time.


I’ve been in Makati for 10 days and I have 2 notches.

I can’t figure out what is happening. I’m working Filipino Cupid and Tinder hard and other than the easy responses, I’m getting a lot of American style attitude and bitch shields.

The White God syndrome has worn off. I feel like these broads are gaming me.

Any advice? What am I doing wrong?

Have you tried Seeking Arrangement? If I were over there now that is something I would try. Looking at the profiles in Makati and Taguig (BGC), there is a decent amount of talent on there, at least a few points higher than Filipino Cupid. I also think the girls would be less flaky and have less attitude if they think you are an upscale gentleman with means.

Of course, you will have to play the "pretend provider" game, which shouldn't be too hard if you are dressed well and have quality accommodations (say 4 or 5 star hotel). Check out the Seeking thread for more info, those guys have it down to an art.

^yeah you can try that but better be extra careful - they're already used to shaking down old guys with no game who show up in the Phils looking for the love of their lives with a little bit of money. SA would be like walking into a house fire coated in gasoline.

But the overall quality looked a bit higher, yes.

(03-23-2019 09:42 AM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 09:36 AM)Davoer Wrote:  What's the reason of. That 'decline'?

leftist media who fund pro women anti men&family propaganda
the mass immigration in Us and EU
feminism movement
laws tend to favour women in the US (and the west, generally)
tinder
the internet (Instagram dopamine addiction in particular)
cheaper flights than ever, you can now fly to poland for 50 euros for example
liberal abortion laws
hollywood and kardashians etc


should i go on?

With respect to the change in women, one can summarize it all in one word: Choice. There is just far too much of it for women.

Too much of anything can be bad, and in this case too much choice causes women to devalue their one asset, fertility, until it is irreversibly expired and society suffers incrementally. You don't need to be religious to understand what they were trying to tell us in countless stories ever since (and even before) Adam and Eve - too much choice and letting women lead will create a disaster. We are witnessing the results of ignoring this advice.

A friend of mine has done seeking extensively in Manila. He said 80% were straight up p4p. 15% were sugar babies. 5% were normal girls who were curious (from reading B Rob's book I think that percentage is a lot higher in the West).

I thought the quality on seeking was abysmal in Manila... like seriously, guys pay for that shit? But yeah if you seek enough on seeking you will probably find something nice. Which isn't the case on Fil Cupid anymore... last time I saw a hot girl on FC was in 2017.

(01-18-2019 09:39 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  Be careful with eating a random girls box...

Yeh man you should go explore. Go see Intramuros or massage/movie then get some rest. Are you eating healthy? Gym?

The acceptability of, and cultural push towards eating girls out is clearly a feminist trick. Avoid.

^^

What percentage of PH girls you meet though dating apps/approaches are first date bang?

In my experience from other Asian countries if I don't bang on first date there is 95% chance I will never see her again, you kinda have to go for kill on the first night or she will get distracted by other options, apps, SM and lose interest.

I told u ph is dead for. Girls

Not sure if this helps because my numbers are limited but. . .
- The ONLY girls I met from online were a first date bang.
- Girls from social circle I pulled but didn't bang or just got the number were all but one lost forever. Same for nightclub/bars. Same for girls I was about to meet from online but got cold feet and/or the logistics broke down.

(03-24-2019 08:09 AM)Davoer Wrote:  I told u ph is dead for. Girls

That is probably true for the first tier cities, Manila has been played hard for the past 50 years or so, guys should start focusing on 3rd tier cities where your exotic value is still high


Another problem with PH and every other SEA countries is that quality of girls is so low, most of them are ugly, short, flat with bad skin, teeth or some combination of these factor, compare that to SouthAmerica or EE where most girls are bangable at least.

In DR/Colombia for example, out of 100 girls on Tinder or Cupid sites 60-80% are fuckable , even ugly ones have sex some appeal as they have great titts, ass, bodies legs... in SEA it is more like 5-10% .

Im willing to bet most of time guys dont even like a girl but they still hit it because she is there and willing.
If you cant bang the one you want, bang the one you with

(03-24-2019 08:09 AM)Davoer Wrote:  I told u ph is dead for. Girls

(03-24-2019 08:48 AM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 08:09 AM)Davoer Wrote:  I told u ph is dead for. Girls

That is probably true for the first tier cities, Manila has been played hard for the past 50 years or so, guys should start focusing on 3rd tier cities where your exotic value is still high


Another problem with PH and every other SEA countries is that quality of girls is so low, most of them are ugly, short, flat with bad skin, teeth or some combination of these factor, compare that to SouthAmerica or EE where most girls are bangable at least.

In DR/Colombia for example, out of 100 girls on Tinder or Cupid sites 60-80% are fuckable , even ugly ones have sex some appeal as they have great titts, ass, bodies legs... in SEA it is more like 5-10% .

Im willing to bet most of time guys dont even like a girl but they still hit it because she is there and willing.
If you cant bang the one you want, bang the one you with

and without tagalog you cant peNetrate the best social circles.. even if you did penetrate the social circles most of the groups arent that much fuN to be with... you are still a gringo no matter what.unlike south america countries like brazil or colombia people who are far more easier to befriend as long as you speak spanish or portugues. i get the impression a lot of thai and pinoys tolerate foreigners but don't really like them at all...

(03-23-2019 10:49 PM)The_Trigg Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 09:39 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  Be careful with eating a random girls box...

Yeh man you should go explore. Go see Intramuros or massage/movie then get some rest. Are you eating healthy? Gym?

The acceptability of, and cultural push towards eating girls out is clearly a feminist trick. Avoid.

(03-24-2019 10:48 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 10:49 PM)The_Trigg Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 09:39 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  Be careful with eating a random girls box...

Yeh man you should go explore. Go see Intramuros or massage/movie then get some rest. Are you eating healthy? Gym?

The acceptability of, and cultural push towards eating girls out is clearly a feminist trick. Avoid.

That's exactly right, T was ahead of his time. A great episode by the way.