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Just chiming in here to say thanks for you guys posting here. I'm following along with interest, as I'm mid 30s and 40 is within earshot.

Any of you guys try stuff related to telomere length anti-aging? like TA-65 etc?
06-12-2017 04:55 PM
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(06-12-2017 02:38 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  Aiight, which one of you guys is this, lol? Anyone know how old Pavel Ladziak is?

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This guy is undoubtedly taking steroids, growth hormone and a cornucopia of other PEDs to look like that at his age. Just like that 70 yr old Cenegenics guy who's ripped to the bone.

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^ Doc, the "cenegenics guy" reference had me lol

I recall flipping through airline mags or the like and always seeing that guy, also with the "before" picture of him on a boat with a gut

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(06-12-2017 04:55 PM)Slam Wrote:  Just chiming in here to say thanks for you guys posting here. I'm following along with interest, as I'm mid 30s and 40 is within earshot.

Any of you guys try stuff related to telomere length anti-aging? like TA-65 etc?

I just looked that up, sorta funny that it's a supplement. A lot of guys as they get older naturally will lengthen telomeres (but in sperm as a heritable gift to the next generation,); there are other threads detailing this as an evolutionary strategy some of us naturally evolved. I've never taken a test nor do I know what age a guy would be considered "old" at being a father (45? 50?)

The amazon comments are funny for that product, a guy saying he's 74 with telomeres the length of a 20 year old, then another guy with a heart condition and relatives that died in their early 60s who had critically short telomeres, and he was 58.

I highly doubt that any supplement increases telomere length - natural history has already found that they dwindle over time, so the key is slowing aging, like with everything else; epigenetics. What will increase the probability that you may activate telomerase (in cells outside the germ line) is eating healthy and working out. It all comes back to that.
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No one is living forever. Eat well. Bang young ass. Get on TRT past 40 (if you need to). Lift weights 3-4/week. All of that is proven to work. Also stop reading and start doing.

Regarding the TA-65, from the study they cite themselves on their web page: "The high dose of TA-65 (1000 U) showed a trend of improvements in TL compared with that of the placebo group; however, the improvements did not reach statistical significance."

Draw your own conclusions.
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(06-13-2017 04:11 PM)Menace Wrote:  No one is living forever. Eat well. Bang young ass. Get on TRT past 40 (if you need to). Lift weights 3-4/week. All of that is proven to work. Also stop reading and start doing.

Regarding the TA-65, from the study they cite themselves on their web page: "The high dose of TA-65 (1000 U) showed a trend of improvements in TL compared with that of the placebo group; however, the improvements did not reach statistical significance."

Draw your own conclusions.

the science to increase telomere length is here, and may be available in the next 10-20 years as a product or service. the problem is its not a pill, but rather you have to edit your DNA. So don't dismiss this idea. We'll see it in our lifetimes. Its just not ready yet. We are going to see this and a lot of other life extension ideas become reality in the next 10-20 years
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(06-13-2017 04:11 PM)Menace Wrote:  No one is living forever. Eat well. Bang young ass.

So true. My ex-gf was 24 at the time (I was 38) and I lost so much weight and ppl actually said I looked younger after only a few months with her. She loved dancing and always wanted to go out. Plus, having long fuck sessions is the best cardio exercise of all.

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Telomere is I guess a biological timer...my understanding is little but like all theories I get happy nutty that it could be true and want to buy supplements. (and two fist them). That said the human bodies contain billions of cells...some dying and being cleaned out and some getting made (we have stem cells)...so I don't know where it fits

I do know that the shortest life span animals have a high metabolism rate (food kills especially sugar and carbs)...hummingbird is one, small mammals. It's been proven that by a restricted food intake " it puts the animal or us into starvation mode" the metabolism slows (cell division..e.t.c)

I think they extended the life of mice by 30%...which is huge

I read this science item 20 years ago and it made sense to me....so I didn't go starvation mode by limited how much I ate...and cut out sugar....I think it works and no health issues and lots of energy

Scientist are trying to re-activate or splice in "regrowing" body parts gene....appears we still have it...there's one body part I want to regrow (larger)

Cloning is old news ...but the Koreans are going crazy to perfect it....no sure why

Hibernation (purposely slowed metabolism) ....this extends lives....bears and squirrels are mammals....so of course...off go the scientists to get this for humans...benefits being long term space travel....medical reasons like induced coma for patients e.t.c

Recently in news people can reduce there biological age by doing tons of physical workouts.. but I can only do every other day...so I guess I rot a little faster there.
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(06-10-2017 08:41 PM)Premium Wrote:  I found the reason most chicks are there is they don't really feel good about themselves

I'm not sure that applies to all women.

I know of one type that are literally addicted to the gym. They're always there no matter when I show up, and they are still there when I leave. They tend to camp out on the treadmill or elliptical and just go nonstop. Usually low resistance and super high speed so it's all cardio. They go for broke, burn their hearts out, go for a drink, then repeat. These women, if they were not gym rats, would be HB2-3. They have truly vomit-inducing faces and boyish marathon-runner figures. The reason they are addicted to the gym is they think they can somehow exercise their ugly away, but they've reached the point where they look almost like concentration-camp victims and they aren't getting any hotter. It's truly sad to see. They need an intervention as much as some obese woman who can't pass through the threshold of her bedroom anymore.

On the other extreme there's also another type of woman that is more interested in fiddling with her cell phone than actually exercising. The machines are set to the lowest resistance and they barely move. They are suffering from the delusion that their results are simply a function of being there and clocking time and not actually working out.
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Lol @ exercising their ugly away. I've seen this phenotype before.

Quote:The chick you’re intimidated by likely doesn’t have much money or can’t manage her money well, doesn’t have her own home, and is in desperate need of direction in her life!
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Well guys even though we are chatting about getting into shape and a little bit about diet. Let's not forget the gym is a group setting of people

The game tools there have nothing to do with gaming apps (well maybe everything has an APP)

It's all back to ...non verbal communication....how to spot flirting.... when does a chick find you attractive....when does a chick open herself up to be approached.

and no a girl flirting doesn't mean fuck...it means interest to get to know you.......that's why Beta's fail on getting past "interest" to the fuck area by coming on to strong. (plus not interesting verbally)

At the gym or club ..Beta's workout or sit close to mirrors (kissing themselves it appears) at the clubs they lean on the bar....when this is done the Beta has made it difficult for a chick to get a "line of sight"

Remember "line of sight" is where a chick checks out a person of interest in a group setting

Remember....your not at the "eye contact phase"..... you want to be in the middle or center of a group (no not mosh pit...well middle of it)

chicks like to take in guys...starting from the feet and going to the head.....and they do this normally when the guys back is towards them (so they won't get caught...it's a submissive chick thing....guys look straight at people it's our dominant thingy)

Try not to be a helicopter head...actually try to stay in engaged doing something in one direction...and slowly rotate the body (not the head)

At the gym I keep centered in the room...I face the universal machine and stay focused on what I'm doing not looking all over the place, not getting aggressive and grunting with the machine.....Typical Beta's will do a SET....and when done stomp around in a circle chest beating? (I mean getting ready for another SUPER SET) NO chicks will look at this helicopter head Beta unless they like guys at the ape level so it's for or to intimidate the sausage fest on how strong he is.

Regardless when a chick finds you attractive....that's when she gets into your area....then the flirt starts (interest remember)
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Which of you guys here still do 'night game'? If so, do you go during the weeks or weekend and what kinds of venues do you favor?

I do it once in a blue moon, but most of my approaches are day game or online.

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I'm only online for setting up girls for travel...(never works out when I actually see them..just never my type..but I like to learn stuff prior to travel))...maybe I like what I can see.woo and fresh game is sweeter...plus I lie to much on the net

week days...in my area....well it means you don't have Mon-Fri 9 to 5's (unless they stick around after dinner/wine....you got maybe small groups of college kids...shift workers...I live in the center of this city and hear peeps walking past my pace stoned some week nights. (that's my indicator... fuk'd up drunk means no fun)

weekends...if your solo ..and older ...avoid night clubs......stick to bars...become a lounge lizard or bar-fly...if you have a buddy go out to eat and hang around the bar till later. ( or schizophrenic..then bring all yourselves no buddy required)

I move around cities a lot alone....I do fuk all night wise for 2 months (just me though..some peeps maybe years) ...until locally I sort the people out and build (in my mind...chicks interest)

Welcome to the neighborhood for me.....working out at fitness club.....coffee and phone shit to look busy...groceries...laundry/dry cleaning...I do everything but knock on peoples doors saying hello (maybe I'll get a paper route and do that)....I'm always outside meeting people...or being seen...and dressed well

If I can't nail some chick doing that (then I need therapy)...I start doing the bars..starting at local sports bars (where hopefully I'll meet some of the chicks that know me from day gaming)

Regardless (if I stay in a city long term) ...after a light dinner I'll leave to do language shit...costs a bit (for the country I plan to go to) and stop by a bar on way back..for a few drinks. ( I ain't doing yoga)

Of course the Beta's have driven most 20 year old girls into being escorts/strippers...so that's always a interesting option ..those girls are starved for attention.

Anyways short list of options...work on your TAN!
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Tired of night game, having better success during the day.

Coffee shops are a goldmine.

I sit down, open the laptop, put a stock chart on the screen and the interest is peaked.

Guards are down during the day.

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@rudeboy well you figured something out but lemme elaborate.. on why...as we know "night clubs" are a rut fest. with 20 something drunken suburban perfect teeth chick's promoting fight night. (IMO)...I dunno what city ur in.....but let's just say .....my gym is full of 20 year old guys from around the world....pumping iron....somebody gave tiny wieners to Buddhist monks (United Nations here) ...the impression of fuck city (I hate HOPE too fuck.versus no HOPE to fuck...that inspiration came from the chicks)

Your smart...the " drunken rut trouble" is seeping into not just night clubs but bars/taverns/restaurants/bistro's it's best to stay on the fringes and turn to day game. 20 something year old chicks learn during the day (workday?)..frustration (with or lack of real men) and the (online love cesspool) storing it for release at the nightclubs (over 40 guys don't rut)

Here are things I did .....(I don't do currently doing other things).......I put my E-mail on the lid of my laptop...so when I flipped it up (wherever) free wifi was there was my contact in BOLD yellow P-TOUCH (my first name was in address...example..SAM12345@...)...sipped my coffee....chick approaches me "that is SOOO COOOL"...(looked at her and said what was?...you know your E-mail on your laptop..." I chuckled"...fuk number 1... nice ice breaker)

I ran an AD..... BOYS CLUB.....must wear a suit and heterosexual to go out parting at night...(worried a lot about who would respond)
2 guys did...all were ready for weekend game....we absolutely smashed the bars

But who were the 2 who responded to the boys club AD...(became 4 guys in suits later)
Guy 1.....Argentina.....25
Guy 2....Norwegian.....28

Broken passable English ( oh ...Norwegian we told..stop speaking perfect English...so his English was purposely..bad)....all looking for Canadian pussy..me I was the older 40-ish dude...lapping up the jagrmiester shots and the hot babes they farmed.

moral of the story foreigners are hungry for pussy.smart,take risks and obviously looking for opportunities to increase GAME...we were the ONLY suits with 5 bars full of college women...betas guys in rags.....Secondly if your an older guy like me..get creative even for day game

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(06-16-2017 09:59 PM)robreke Wrote:  Which of you guys here still do 'night game'? If so, do you go during the weeks or weekend and what kinds of venues do you favor?

I do it once in a blue moon, but most of my approaches are day game or online.

Yep I still night game. I usually go out with two of my friends (ages 36 and 42, respectfully). My roommate (the 36 year old) is fearless with his approaches and actually helps me get my ass in gear.

We hit up a few places around the area, but our new favorite is a sports bar close to our apartment. We've had pretty good luck there so far. Plus the logistics make it pretty easy to pull back to our place. This place usually has 80's cover bands playing live music, and on Wednesdays they have $1 domestic beer. I tend to prefer the weekends there though as Wednesday's crowd is a very young with all the college kids drinking the cheap beer. Not to mention the guy/girl ratio is about 3:1, so you really have to bring your A game since you're competing with much younger guys.

I've had better luck on the weekends as the guy/girl ratio is much better (1:2) and the age range is wider (mid/late 20's to late 30's). The competition also is really nonexistent as most of guys there are older and actually LOOK it. Out of shape, no game, etc.

So really it just reinforces what we all know here: Be in good shape in your 40's and you're already in the Top 5% of men your age. Style, game, finances...all gravy and will just add to your SMV. I HIGHLY recommend night game for guys our age, because once you get out there and see your competition it really boosts your confidence and you realize all the hard work you've put in to better yourself is about to pay dividends. Online game for us can be a bit more difficult because women may see your age and automatically think 'dad bod' because that's all they see when they go out.

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^ This.. I am back in a place after being away for a number of years back and forth. I see women my age now that I used to know, even ones a number of years younger than me, that were once hot, and now are not. How the tables have turned. However the thirst here is worse than it ever was, I see good looking young guys with overweight crusty women at the end of the night because they are drunk, young and horny, as we once were. Its great now i can just walk away, as well as knowing in the back of my mind that there are so many better places in the world.

When I was younger I think I may have been a sex addict or something, I used to get so anxious if I didn't have a girl, a number, a make out or something at the end of the night.

My night-game is usually pubs, which have a mixed/mature crowd. A sense of peace and calm is what I feel now, I enjoy it so much more now because I am not just a thirsty testosterone fulled walking erection like I was 20 years ago.
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(06-20-2017 11:13 AM)kazz Wrote:  Its great now i can just walk away, as well as knowing in the back of my mind that there are so many better places in the world.

When I was younger I think I may have been a sex addict or something, I used to get so anxious if I didn't have a girl, a number, a make out or something at the end of the night.

Indeed brother!
No longer being powerless to the power of poossy has definitely given me solace. I no longer phuck bishes I don't personally like or enjoy being around anymore. Dropping hoes off at the end of the night with absolutely no further interest in them burns a hole in their soul and diminishes their perceived value as a woman, lol

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I prowl around gaming, although more or less it's the thrill of the hunt. I'd like to get too know a chick a little better than before when it was Wham Bam thank you mam..that got old for me 20 years ago and a lot more messier "for the chick" who bought my B.S

Good thing about going slower with girls it's THEM that think of ending it if (you pretend) your a dud. Then she walks and I can pretend some more to be broken hearted. I didn't have the time to do that before with work and life.

Kazz ya think time wears out women's looks. I got another one to add. I went away to work at 20 for 6 years. There was a chick all through grade 7 to grade 11 I was totally in love with (she saw me as a friend)...talk about a chick I put on a pedestal.

Anyways I came back to town at 26 yrs old...I was with some guys carrying beer down the road and she pulls over in her car...says HEY!!!....fuck I barely recognized her (she was 26 also).....anyways later ended up at her place (social housing co-op for single moms...lmao) and had the shittiest fuck... she was fat and looked 38 with wrinkles straw hair. ....but hey I waited a long time for that fuck I wasn't turning it down...but left in a hurry never talked to her again.

More chicks I saw in town were the same...just let themselves go..sad really. At one point I did think on retiring there but changed my mind and left for good at 30.now I don't get a tap on the shoulder...REMEMBER ME...YIKES!!!!!!...I don't want tooooo

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(06-08-2017 07:23 AM)Themin Wrote:  hey guys, new to the forum Smile
about 2 years ago (about to turn 40) I decided you only live once, so started eating properly, running, kettlebells. in 12 months I shed 13 kg and started getting in shape. In Feb this year I left my wife of 16 years (not directly connected to my turning a page but some of it actually is). I also discovered eastern europe, and yes, it's a great fucking time to be nearly 42, in shape, with disposable income (despite the split up!) own house, and live 2,5 hours from Kiev. Been seeing ukrainians since then, living the time of my life Big Grin
Tonight my current 28yo hottie comes to see me for about 2 weeks. Good times Big Grin

have booked 9 days in ukraine in august... not really sure if I will spend them with the current girl (have been seeing her for a few months now, as she has a very sweet character and is great in bed) because a few cracks have started to show while spending time together so..... time will tell Smile The plan is for her to come see me again in July for 10 days, (assuming we still want to see each other) then in august go explore some parts of ukraine together (carpathian region). If that doesn't happen, then, I'll still be in the right place to party anyway (although august is quieter in Kiev)
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I can fuck EE chicks (9 or 10's) by picking up the phone and ordering one in Canada )...$250 Canadian or less...actually any ethnic group I want is here.
I have no interest in EE crap cities, and the limited English. It seems the only fascination with EE is by the "darker ethnic types..France thru to middle east to Turkey" I get it they want Hollywood blond/blue-eyed whores by going to backward shit holes....I need to stop reading those threads for places to retire too..and the data sheets

I'm into my 50's ..people like me can't "waste time" (no matter how healthy)...so priority

- do the people speak English
-is it a fairly safe country
-is it vibrant/people friendly
-can I get at any age a replacement girlfriend
-can I pay a cheap price for a replacement chick ( if it comes to that)..meaning a house keeper and check my pulse at 80
-is it tropical
- can I become a permanent resident without marriage
-can I get a Starbucks coffee and read a newspaper
-is the infrastructure adequate
-is it a cheap place ..cost of living
-can I get back easily to North America
- can I do banking
-can I keep in touch back home

sub benefits
- ex-pat communities
-watch a movie ..listen to radio
-go for swim ..go to the gym..work on my tan 365 days a year
=cheap healthcare
=fuck

I watched passengers boarding a flight in Vancouver to Manila some were creaky bow legged 100 year old white dudes....SOMETHING got those antiques to go on a plane ride...hmmmm

For me ..I'm glad I made the trip (my first trip)..cities are no shittier than EE or SA....the difference was the vibrant 24/7 people and not every local was a whore.

Philippines this September for me (again) except the down south islands

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Dumped the 28 yo hottie yesterday. Was she worth my time? I'd say so yes. Great in bed, nice character for the most part, perfect english. Neeeeeeext
and I'm Italian, have traveled the world, and definitely don't think Kiev is a bad place to go for fun and games, even the odd spot of sightseeing. Just need an open mind.
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(Yesterday 01:22 AM)Themin Wrote:  Dumped the 28 yo hottie yesterday. Was she worth my time? I'd say so yes. Great in bed, nice character for the most part, perfect english. Neeeeeeext

Pics for reference... and I'm Italian, have traveled the world, and definitely don't think Kiev is a bad place to go for fun and games, even the odd spot of sightseeing. Just need an open mind.

If those are pics of the actual girl I suggest you remove them...it's no no to post private pics

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RE: Older Guys (40+)
oops didn't know, thanks. (although I don't see an issue, we've been together for a few months, essentially my ex gf)
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RE: Older Guys (40+)
(Yesterday 01:44 AM)Themin Wrote:  oops didn't know, thanks. (although I don't see an issue, we've been together for a few months, essentially my ex gf)

Good call

Forum rules See #7

Imagine if she ever caught wind her pics were here? She could create an account and doxx you....thats just one possible scenario

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