"Just ended...."

Then when she makes a joke assuming you're referring to her flip the script. Tell her you were talking about another girl, you just realized you're gay, you recently put in your application for monk-hood etc...

Gaming hot younger woman. I got her to agree to drive to my town as she lives a few hours away and I'm getting her a room at a hotel.

Heres our text exchange:
her. What are your expectations?
Me. Just wanted to connect over drinks and have fun getting to know each other.
Her. Glad we're on same page. Obviously sex is a natural part of relationship but I don't sleep with someone the first time I see them just so there's no disappointments.

I have a good idea how to respond but thought I'd run it by the forum.

two things. ... what to text AND is this most likely just plausible deniability?

(04-23-2015 11:07 AM)robreke Wrote:  Gaming hot younger woman. I got her to agree to drive to my town as she lives a few hours away and I'm getting her a room at a hotel.

Heres our text exchange:
her. What are your expectations?
Me. Just wanted to connect over drinks and have fun getting to know each other.
Her. Glad we're on same page. Obviously sex is a natural part of relationship but I don't sleep with someone the first time I see them just so there's no disappointments.

I have a good idea how to respond but thought I'd run it by the forum.

two things. ... what to text AND is this most likely just plausible deniability?

hit her with " im glad you said it... i dont sleep with people until the 25th date, see you around xpm"

This girl went radio silent so as a last try I sent her this picture and this is what happened










In case you are wondering what my profile picture is

I collected this girls digits over the weekend and hit her up last night trying to set up some drinks. I've been in this spot before and it never works out. Anything I can do?

Me: Drinks later this week?
Her: This week is really bad for me because I have a ton of exams thurs and fri maybe next week?
Me: I can prob swing next week. good luck
Her: Thank you! can't wait till Friday haha


So, I think her excuse is legitimate. It's final exam time and I talked to her about her school when I met her. I've been in similar spots before and I usually wait until next week to try to set something up again. Problem is, a week goes by with no contact, the lead goes cold, and the girl loses interest. Is there any good ways to keep that interest afloat until I try again? Casual texting isn't really my thing...

Can someone think of a good (i.e. alpha) birthday text?

(04-29-2015 06:51 PM)Bey Wrote:  Can someone think of a good (i.e. alpha) birthday text?

An alpha male wouldn't care if it's a girls' birthday, then again if you want to you can send her a "happy birthday" on the wrong day, for example ;

You:"Happy birthday"
Her:but it is not my birthday, my birthday was 2 days ago
You: Cool what did you bring me?

(04-29-2015 11:18 PM)Geekzor Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 06:51 PM)Bey Wrote:  Can someone think of a good (i.e. alpha) birthday text?

An alpha male wouldn't care if it's a girls' birthday, then again if you want to you can send her a "happy birthday" on the wrong day, for example ;

You:"Happy birthday"
Her:but it is not my birthday, my birthday was 2 days ago
You: Cool what did you bring me?

to piggy back off this id go with a whole week and a half later

Won't let me quote on my phone but concerning the b-day text I would say something like "happy bday (name, its important to say her name) i got ya bday present here, meet ya at 9pm my place. Just be sure to wear those sexy heels and do sone strecthing b4 hand." When she asks about the streching say, "you'll find out later" the notion is to hint to her that you will be giving her the best bday smash of her life. This is all assuming you got the bang of course.

Happy Birthday, wearing your birthday suit yet

So after doing some searching, I couldn't quite find the answer I was looking for so here goes:

I just matched with a girl on Tinder (here in the Netherlands) and followed the standard steps of transitioning to whatsapp yesterday. So far she has already texted me multiple times today: "good morning", "how is your day", etc.. Not only have I read before that over texting can be detrimental, I have experienced it first hand. I am hesitant to reply to her texts but we haven't had our first date yet, so this may scare her off.

What would you do in this situation? Ignore her texts until it is time to set up the first date?
or
Reply and tell her about my day (which I don't care to do)?

Side note: Isn't this a red flag? I don't see how some random girl cares about my day when we just met on tinder the day before. Seems clingy...

(05-11-2015 11:33 AM)Fury Wrote:  So after doing some searching, I couldn't quite find the answer I was looking for so here goes:

I just matched with a girl on Tinder (here in the Netherlands) and followed the standard steps of transitioning to whatsapp yesterday. So far she has already texted me multiple times today: "good morning", "how is your day", etc.. Not only have I read before that over texting can be detrimental, I have experienced it first hand. I am hesitant to reply to her texts but we haven't had our first date yet, so this may scare her off.

What would you do in this situation? Ignore her texts until it is time to set up the first date?
or
Reply and tell her about my day (which I don't care to do)?

Side note: Isn't this a red flag? I don't see how some random girl cares about my day when we just met on tinder the day before. Seems clingy...

It's possible it could be a red flag, but unlikely as you haven't even set up a date yet. Why don't you post the conversation so we can comment accurately?

Not seeing the conversation, I'd say send some short statement statement question text and move on with your day. As soon as you can segueway to discussing getting together, do so.

(05-11-2015 11:33 AM)Fury Wrote:  So after doing some searching, I couldn't quite find the answer I was looking for so here goes:

I just matched with a girl on Tinder (here in the Netherlands) and followed the standard steps of transitioning to whatsapp yesterday. So far she has already texted me multiple times today: "good morning", "how is your day", etc.. Not only have I read before that over texting can be detrimental, I have experienced it first hand. I am hesitant to reply to her texts but we haven't had our first date yet, so this may scare her off.

What would you do in this situation? Ignore her texts until it is time to set up the first date?
or
Reply and tell her about my day (which I don't care to do)?

Side note: Isn't this a red flag? I don't see how some random girl cares about my day when we just met on tinder the day before. Seems clingy...

go for logistics, "It's Good. Meet me at xyz bar At 8pm wednesday" etc.

(05-11-2015 12:43 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 11:33 AM)Fury Wrote:  So after doing some searching, I couldn't quite find the answer I was looking for so here goes:

I just matched with a girl on Tinder (here in the Netherlands) and followed the standard steps of transitioning to whatsapp yesterday. So far she has already texted me multiple times today: "good morning", "how is your day", etc.. Not only have I read before that over texting can be detrimental, I have experienced it first hand. I am hesitant to reply to her texts but we haven't had our first date yet, so this may scare her off.

What would you do in this situation? Ignore her texts until it is time to set up the first date?
or
Reply and tell her about my day (which I don't care to do)?

Side note: Isn't this a red flag? I don't see how some random girl cares about my day when we just met on tinder the day before. Seems clingy...

It's possible it could be a red flag, but unlikely as you haven't even set up a date yet. Why don't you post the conversation so we can comment accurately?

Not seeing the conversation, I'd say send some short statement statement question text and move on with your day. As soon as you can segueway to discussing getting together, do so.

The conversation is quite long so I won't be able to post it for brevity reasons but you and eradicator both provided me with a solution that incorporated both avenues I had mentioned. Use my response as a way to segue into meeting up soon.

This is something I sometimes struggle with, I get too caught up in the texting back and forth and it gets so convoluted. I need to be more direct... I will take this advice and use it for future interactions. Thanks for the heads up.

Began my exchange with the bikini model I mentioned in the approach thread.

Me: yo whats up
Her: who is this

This isn't as bad as it sounds since my phone's been bugging the hell out lately and I should be getting a new one in a few weeks.

Me: it's libertas, did my # still not get through yesterday?
Her: Nope
Me: ah. tell me about how fun your test was

Trying to get the humor going and moving back on track. But if things sputter out from here, how should I proceed. Cool off time and re-initiate when future plans fall through?

I'm starting to truly believe in the talk about the pussy gods now. This could have started off a lot better.

(05-11-2015 03:46 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Began my exchange with the bikini model I mentioned in the approach thread.

Me: yo whats up
Her: who is this

This isn't as bad as it sounds since my phone's been bugging the hell out lately and I should be getting a new one in a few weeks.

Me: it's libertas, did my # still not get through yesterday?
Her: Nope
Me: ah. tell me about how fun your test was

Trying to get the humor going and moving back on track. But if things sputter out from here, how should I proceed. Cool off time and re-initiate when future plans fall through?

I'm starting to truly believe in the talk about the pussy gods now. This could have started off a lot better.

I'd have suggested teasing first before the reveal.

Me: yo whats up
Her: who is this
Me: not your boyfriend

Me: yo whats up
Her: who is this
Me: a fun escape from boring law books

Me: yo whats up
Her: who is this
Me: channing tatum

You get the idea.

Quote:Me: it's libertas, did my # still not get through yesterday?
Her: Nope
Me: ah. tell me about how fun your test was

The first question is forcing her to Girl Lie to you - if they were honest about things like this they wouldn't be girls.

The problem is, this is handing her the power. She's used to being the Gatekeeper to further contact. You know she hasn't texted. She knows she hasn't texted. Don't comment on it at all, because, otherwise, she'll Girl Lie to you, and, mentally, then equate you with the other subpar guys she's forced to Girl Lie to.

As such, her 'nope' is brutal. You said "Lie to me" and she did. The Pussy Gods are bastards.

You want her to not think you were sitting by the phone, waiting for her to call - particularly noting she hadn't. I'd just dive back into it like the conversation never ended. Assume that of course she'd want to keep talking with you and go from there.

"was just [doing something / was somewhere] and [saw / heard / read] [something that reminded you or was related to what you discussed]." Get her talking in a way that she can't respond with simple yes / no answers. Work back round to escalation.

Good luck, man.

It legitimately is a bit difficult to tell in this case because my phone really has been buggy as hell and there legitimately was a problem getting my number through to her, plus this never happened before. Nevertheless, I suppose I can try that in a day or two. I thought of just dropping the event first but that would essentially be rewarding bad behavior.

Now - this may be venting - but honestly this shit is starting to piss me the fuck off. Getting attraction and intrigue and escalating it is so easy in person, but I've found, over many months, is that as soon as you make a single solitary mistake on text, it's basically over. It's difficult to build attraction over text, and extremely easy to lose it. And it's so easy to make a mistake on text because there are absolutely no cues. It's not even like instant messaging where it's easy for me to dominate. I feel like I'm slowly, ever so slowly, starting to put in place a text system that works, piece by slow piece, but it's still annoying the hell out of me.

It is absolutely no coincidence that the only two women I know that I would consider LTR material do not engage in these bullshit text games.

"who is this" is not a death sentence. i usually just say "kanye west" or "brad pitt" or whatnot, but at that point, just try calling, trying to get them to agree to meet up over the phone can be easier if they are texting you 'who is this".

Even experienced players can get rust and overplay the cockyness/arrogant hand

looks like I might've did just this OR she likes guy's taller than 5'9"

Tinder match, solid 8 fake blondie, banging body, lots of shitty tats, perky tits (tatted chest piece kind of killed it) and surprise braces.

You know those girls that instantly makes your dick hard that you just want to fuck the shit out of ?

This was one of them.

The Tinder convo went great, she's a bitch, i'm an asshole, perfect match, gave me LMR on the number, shut her down, she sent me her number.

This has been our conversation so far (It's been awhile since I've dealt with such a feisty bitch):

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So far so good, sarcasm reflects, compliance in works

I get her pic, standard duck face make up less selfie, or course less cute than her other pics

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Instant shit test, defeated, by another shit test, followed by more sarcasm

She isn't getting what she wants, she's getting frustrated

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Princess gets mad and can't take a joke, I half heartedly try to diffuse it.

I'll probably let her chill out and follow up with her tommorow.

Would you guys restart ?

How would you restart ?


Some ideas:
"So are you stil in a coma or what ?"
"Did you die?"
"So are you one of those girls whose insecure about height ?"
"So did you die or are you one of those girls that plays games ? I thought you were straight up."

I want to provoke some attention like confrontation to regain the frame.

Or should I keep it simple ?

Thoughts and Ideas are always welcome.

(05-12-2015 03:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  You know those girls that instantly makes your dick hard that you just want to fuck the shit out of ?

This was one of them.

The Tinder convo went great, she's a bitch, i'm an asshole, perfect match, gave me LMR on the number, shut her down, she sent me her number.

Classic overgaming. You also fed into her frame about calling you cocky by continuing that whole dialogue, but the real killer was the overboard arrogance at the end, then trying to save it.

Also, your responses are constantly longer and you are trying to verbally spar with her. She is not on your level, she doesn't want to be on your level, and she doesn't like being beat verbally. You're supposed to be cocky yet unable for her to pin down by changing the subject and getting her imagination involved.

I'd radio silence her and think of something engaging to send her tomorrow or the next day, but this one is likely gone, gone, gone.

Honestly Aneroid, yeah I knew it as soon as I did.

The good thing is I'm beginning to see these sorts of things immediately and adjust.

Oh well, charge it to the game and carry on.

I'll send a feeler out today.

So long story short I hit this chick up on OKCUPID (anywhere from an 8-9, one of those hail mary attempts online) she was being difficult but I held frame dropped my # and she ended up texting me. We talked back and forth 5/6 times, I got her to qualify herself asking if she had cats/trying to make sure she wasn't a "crazy cat lady." Shout out to Blurred Sevens for the line. She's loving my playful texts, with some gif's, and I started breaking down her defense. Here is where I'm stuck.

ME: Why don't we get together this week so I can charm you in person?

Her: Can I think about it

ME: Lol are you asking for permission? (normally wouldn't lol but she was using them all over the place and I literally laughed)

Her: Yes

Me: Yes xxx you are allowed to think about it

Her: Ok thanks

Me: Whats your instagram I'll add you so you can do more research

Her:xxx

So my question is how long should I wait to hit her up again. And what should the opener be? Something online the lines of- So if you take much longer the offer might not be on the table anymore. IDK. Any ideas?

^what? first off, never ask for a girl's instagram and tell her you want to 'do research' on her. That is just horrendous text game. instagram is just a utility for girls to attention whore, and you do not want to be playing into that. next time a girl tells you that she needs time to think about whether she wants to go on a date with you, you either say "you have 10 seconds to decide" or "no, just go with your gut and decide now, if that's a no, so be it"

been said many times, girls that tell you 'maybe' are by far the most problematic. the girls that say 'yes' are great, the girls that say 'no', at least they gave you a straight answer and you can go chase other women, the girls that say 'maybe' can string you along indefinitely.

you should be trying to get her out on a date, not doing research on her instagram.

as for what your ideas are. give her logistics as to what you will be doing on the date. getting drinks, getting coffee then drinks. drinks and dancing. drinks and air hockey. depends on the girl. i would just be trying to call her and talk to her and figure that out.

'you around? can I call?" is ok, and just hope that your phone game is better than your text game.

Don't suggest, ask.

Instead of suggesting: "Why don't we get" - get rid of the charm (you're qualifying yourself to her)

Use: What's your evening schedule like this week OR let's meet up thursday night, 8:30 at X place.

The more specific you are, the more of specific response you'll get back.

I wouldn't of even asked for her IG, I would've asked her for a selfie doing a specific thing, so I know it's her.


"Can I think about it ?"

I would've replied with "no I made up your mind and I've decided we're doing X and Y time." or something along those lines.

If she dropped info saying she's free on certain days or is down for what you suggested, STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT.

I said I'll add you on instagram so SHE can do more research. I'm confident in my instagram game it displays value. But yeah I shoulda struck while the iron is HOT and just made a decision for her. Okay well now that's behind me how can I move forward from here? I'm about 3 months into GAME and texting is by far the worst aspect