Post: #5376

The funny thing about game is that much like sports ALL of it has to be experienced, tried, failed, and calibrated before a method is determined.

There's really no way to determine concrete "rules" because of the million of factors that go into play in a women's mind AND with what you put on the table.

That's what is beautiful about it....there is no magic information that will instantly make you succeed. You have to get in the field and put your work in.

Over the past few months my night approaches have gotten exponentially better because I've had some huge failures. Not just soft rejections. And now that I've seen such failure, I know that "I've done worse."

And you know...you can read that a million times...but it doesn't mean shit until you put it in your life.

Post: #5377

(05-13-2015 05:13 AM)smallpimpin Wrote:  No boner. Objectively cute/pretty face on a skinny body (no curves) but the package just didn't do doing anything for me. I didn't have that killer instinct.

A little language barrier + annoying accent (think Singapore/English) was throwing me off a little. Am I being too "pointy elbows" about this?

For me the combination of the above contributed to the meh vibe = didn't feel motivated to continue.

Re: Clean Slate/Atlantic - I assume these guys were attracted to the girls they met = motivated to make the effort.

I'd say bit point elbows yes BUT if you aren't feeling it, then it's all good, move on.

I had a date last night like that also, no language barrier, more of a - she's way more awkward and dork, than I am.

She even came over to my house, we even kissed, extremely awkwardly, but some signs were there.

She even texted me this morning saying she had fun and that I was cool.

Yet....I barely even feel like replying.

Post: #5378

(05-13-2015 05:13 AM)smallpimpin Wrote:  No boner. Objectively cute/pretty face on a skinny body (no curves) but the package just didn't do doing anything for me. I didn't have that killer instinct.

For me the combination of the above contributed to the meh vibe = didn't feel motivated to continue.

The bottom line is you had no chemistry with her. Over the time I've been on this forum I have learned so much about women, game and life. However I still fall into the trap that I MUST bang every single objectively attractive woman I go on a date with whether I'm feeling a vibe or not. But I'm realizing, at least for me, it doesn't work that way. I'll give you an example. Just a couple of days ago I had a first date with an attractive Asian woman, probably a very high 6 with a nice thin body. From the moment we said our hellos, to the awkward hug she gave me my sixth sense was screaming "nah".

After getting our ice cream we sat on a padded bench and she immediately placed her purse in between us (see the subconscious meaning here?) From there we had a pleasant conversation and I was able to touch her arm a few times but there was just no getting through her facade. As things were winding down I did invite her back to my place for a drink and to see some photos but she declined.

Again, this is just my experience, but for me having game is being able to successfully convert the women who are initially attracted to me or at least intrigued (yes and maybe women) but a no girl is still a no girl whether that no comes from you or her.

Post: #5379

Yup, I made that mistake last night on my date.

I just couldn't vibe with her, she's super dorky, but semi cute. But the conversation wasn't there.

Her being very inexperienced with kissing was a bit off putting as well, this will be a 0 date bang if anything.


I think this sinus/allergy thing has been killing my appetite for gaming girls, especially when I deal with it at work all day.

I'm honestly looking forward to another music festival next week with my main, one of my best friends and his wife and a ton of musically inclined friends playing there.

Post: #5380

I'm with OregonToSoCal.

I'm starting to see the value of chemistry more and more so. It makes me want to up my numbers in order to increase the chances that I can find someone I can actually vibe with.

In the beginning, if your just trying to get laid a bit or whatever then you may not care for it or notice it. However, once you start to acquire some experience, I found anyway that you start to crave that on a wavelength kind of vibe.

Even if it's just a click and you feel you can maybe have a lot of fun with this chick. It can be really draining trying to push forward with a girl where you are constantly manufacturing all the laughs and talking points and shit, it feels like making moves on a chess board sometimes.

It's nice to hit it off, it eases tension and you can just get into your flow. You see how far your game as come cause you start to work more instinctuallly, more in the moment and it's a lot more enjoyable because of that.

At the end of the day we are all human and we all crave that kind of connection. I'm not saying you have to wife up every hoe that you get a good vibe going with. Just live it. Embrace it and roll with it.

My bad if this doesn't make a lot of sense. It's late and I've had a long day.

Post: #5381

Game is easy. Sex is easy. Money is easy. Fitness is easy. Knowledge is easy. Hell, even Seeing The World is easy.

They all have a linear and logical path to achievement. You just have to put in the work.

But,

Happiness is hard!

There is no formula. At least not that I have found. And I am searching like crazy.

And it is getting harder to find the positive in all this shit, but I am still keeping my head up.

I was going to write a longer post, but that sums up my mood for the past few weeks.

Post: #5382

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Game is easy. Sex is easy. Money is easy. Fitness is easy. Knowledge is easy. Hell, even Seeing The World is easy.

They all have a linear and logical path to achievement. You just have to put in the work.

But,

Happiness is hard!

There is no formula. At least not that I have found. And I am searching like crazy.

And it is getting harder to find the positive in all this shit, but I am still keeping my head up.

I was going to write a longer post, but that sums up my mood for the past few weeks.

Once you take the blinders off and open your eyes - it's a bit more hard to see the positive.

This is why I wake up every morning thankful I woke up, have a roof over my head, and a car to drive to the job I have.

Everything else is just bonuses, sex can satisfy, so can money, but you're right in the end everyone needs to find their own lane on the path to happiness.

I always go out with a positive vibe, avoid alot of negative energy except for things like shit tests. I try to be up in the clouds, not down in the dirt.

The sex is fun, but there's game fatigue, constantly planning and going on dates. I occasionally hope a girl flakes so I have some alone time.

Sometimes I'll want to go radio silent on everyone.

I'll always have the girl come over or meet me near my house, it's very repetitive.

I'm glad I'll be out of town next week, I need another reset.

Post: #5383

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Happiness is hard!

Finding happiness is definitely challenging, but I find that one of the hardest components is to push yourself but at the same time be accepting of your own failures. If you're not where you want to be, be happy that you are making progress (however slight) towards where you want to go.

A lyric that just popped in my head when I wrote the above:
"You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need."


Following up to my story earlier this week, it sure seems like when you're in a LTR way more girls want you:

I've been going to a physical therapist and part of that is massage therapy. There's a girl who works on me from time to time that has been a little flirty, enough for me to think she might be interested. She knows I have a gf, she knows I play volleyball with a guy that helps run the physical therapy office, but she doesn't know much else other than what I tell her. Today when talking to my buddy he told me how much of a crush she has on me and that he and the co-operator of the office always laugh about it and how they noticed that she does her hair and makeup extra special when I've got an appointment, whether she's working on me or not, anytime she might see me.

She's fun, I get to practice my other language with her, and she gives great massages. It's really nice to know an attractive girl would do all that on the off-chance that I break up with my gf. The funny thing is that I'm a bit self-conscious about my physique. I've been losing a little weight but not replacing it with muscle and my stomach /pecs are extra flabby. This chick is in great shape (could be a personal trainer easy) and would definitely turn some heads in the club, so it's funny to me how "counter-intuitive" this is.

Game on guys.

And I really need to get rid of this "dad bod."

Post: #5384

Ok, just had my first second date with a girl I have not banged nor kissed. This shit never happened to me before. And the thing is, I actually really enjoyed it.

This brunette is feminine, very pleasant, not once during the entire night look at her phone, and passed all compliance test. Smart and could talk about anything.

But I could not escalate. I went in for the kiss twice at the venue, she both said "please, I need time to know you. I cant do this outside of a relationship" I was pretty annoyed but for some reason it doesn't ring my bullshit radar.

Walked her home and got inside using the classic bathroom excuse, talked for another half an hour and tried again to kiss her, but no chance. Though I forgot to play the "let me give you a massage" card.

This situation is just... not in the books. The whole thing feels strange to me.

She is 18, from a small village in the countryside, love both her parents (dad seems redpill, doing karate and shit), so this might be a case of traditional girl not YET getting corrupted by city life.

Girls like this dont stay single for long. I need to bring my tightest game next time. Which is kinda strange: when I'm around her I just feel at ease and doesnt feel any need to actively "game"

I guess femininity does has a way of disarming a player.

I would really hate it if, once this is over, I find out that she is just another slut playing the long game though.

Post: #5385

(05-13-2015 08:20 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Ok, just had my first second date with a girl I have not banged nor kissed. This shit never happened to me before. And the thing is, I actually really enjoyed it.

This brunette is feminine, very pleasant, not once during the entire night look at her phone, and passed all compliance test. Smart and could talk about anything.

But I could not escalate. I went in for the kiss twice at the venue, she both said "please, I need time to know you. I cant do this outside of a relationship" I was pretty annoyed but for some reason it doesn't ring my bullshit radar.

Walked her home and got inside using the classic bathroom excuse, talked for another half an hour and tried again to kiss her, but no chance. Though I forgot to play the "let me give you a massage" card.

This situation is just... not in the books. The whole thing feels strange to me.

She is 18, from a small village in the countryside, love both her parents (dad seems redpill, doing karate and shit), so this might be a case of traditional girl not YET getting corrupted by city life.

Girls like this dont stay single for long. I need to bring my tightest game next time. Which is kinda strange: when I'm around her I just feel at ease and doesnt feel any need to actively "game"

I guess femininity does has a way of disarming a player.

I would really hate it if, once this is over, I find out that she is just another slut playing the long game though.

Did she seem into you? Did you get her to blush? Did you get ANY kino at all?

If so, signs point to her being a feminine, low notch count girl. Continue to game but calibrate to this.

If you never really got her to flirt back/blush and show you interest and if you couldn't get any kino/positive reaction to kino, I'm on the fence.

Post: #5386

(05-13-2015 06:08 PM)Blackwell Wrote:  I'm with OregonToSoCal.

I'm starting to see the value of chemistry more and more so. It makes me want to up my numbers in order to increase the chances that I can find someone I can actually vibe with.

In the beginning, if your just trying to get laid a bit or whatever then you may not care for it or notice it. However, once you start to acquire some experience, I found anyway that you start to crave that on a wavelength kind of vibe.

Even if it's just a click and you feel you can maybe have a lot of fun with this chick. It can be really draining trying to push forward with a girl where you are constantly manufacturing all the laughs and talking points and shit, it feels like making moves on a chess board sometimes.

It's nice to hit it off, it eases tension and you can just get into your flow. You see how far your game as come cause you start to work more instinctuallly, more in the moment and it's a lot more enjoyable because of that.

At the end of the day we are all human and we all crave that kind of connection. I'm not saying you have to wife up every hoe that you get a good vibe going with. Just live it. Embrace it and roll with it.

My bad if this doesn't make a lot of sense. It's late and I've had a long day.

This has been some what of a problem / pattern for me for the entire duration of my 20's. I spend a while casually 'dating' random girls, start to get burnt out, and then meet a girl that I 'vibe' with.

These girls always have a low partner count (<3) and are also a little lower than me on a pure physical scale. And, at least up to now, I happily settle with them.. happily that is until after a year or so, and then, like magic, the vibe is gone and the transition to controlling critical bitch mode begins while I try to salvage the sinking ship.

Post: #5387

So this supposed 8.5 turned out to be a 7.5 with braces and some freckles, kinda gnar gumline also. Double chin, with a bit of fat on the bottom, looks like she gained some weight recently.

Wreaked of ciggs of course I thought, if she smokes, she pokes.

TL;DR text messages above, she was being cuntish, I decided to see how far I can take this, suprisingly she agreed to meet me tonight, then sandbagged me about getting gas money lol



Aneroid told me she was long gone....I thought in my head "challenge accepted" let's see how far this can go.

And got a total blow out.

Background:

20 year old Standard american white girl, what I thought was a banging body, cuntish attitude, bitch via text (see above)

She drove about 30 minutes to see me, I live down the street from where we're meeting.

We met up for coffee, she was yapping the whole time, about her life, her anger problems when she was a kid, a sport she was in outside of school.

There was alot of shit that she said that went in one ear I did a little listening, teasing, follow up questions.

We bounce outside since the coffee shop was closing, she rants about some drama I could give a shit less about.

I drop bait about beer, she said she'd love one right about now.

10 mins later she follows me to a gas station, grab the brews, without hesitation tell her to follow me to my house. No LMR

Walk in, I make a joke about seeing her better in the light, for some reason this chick DOES NOT like joking or sarcasm.

She has that froggy cracky voice, she kept bringing up how she didn't care what people thought blah blah blah.

We settle on some lame ass scary movie for background noise, she's showing me all her pictures

I come to find out she's got FOUR fucking cats. I make a joke about coke she brings up her her ex was an addict, funny, at the coffee shop she was enthusiastically talking about drugs.

Anyways we get closer while she shows me pics, I get alot of kino on her when she shows me her tats, arms, hands, hips, back of neck.

She playfully punches my face, I pull her hair knot....she didn't like that ONE bit lol.

She bitched about it for awhile, changed the subject we keep talking, then she gets on her phone I barely slap it away and it falls on the floor.

On that note, she gets up and says she's leaving, I'm not stopping her, because at this point I just don't give a fuck.

She starts saying how I was cool at the coffee shop but she couldn't read me and know if I was being serious or sarcastic when she got to my house.

Then bitterly says, "Well I'm sure you're find your tinderella" I shoot back saying "hah, already deleted it, lotta weird girls on there"

I basically tell her its different hanging out with girls in the state that overseas, tinder's fucking weird, I was adjusting to dating here, not adjusting to her thoughts and analyzing her.

Honestly - yeah I made some last ditch hail mary play to sound genuine. Yeah it was a bit beta for sure.

She didn't care at all - but hey I still got the bitch to come over.

Then she drops this line - "honestly you're alotttttt different from the other guys i've met on tinder"

She tried playing it off as an insult but I sure as hell know I made an impression.

She gets in her car, I close the garage and take off before her, pretending to go somewhere, (I saw her leave in my rear view) I'm not sure why I did that, perhaps subconsciously let her hamster spin, wondering where I'm going.

I need to stop drinking when I've got something like this going. I can tell I lost my coolness and get more cocky, most girls like it, in this case she didn't.

And if we're being more honest this was more hate game than anything, she didn't like that I didn't do what she wanted, that I didn't play into her game.

Then got mad when I swept her 1st boyfriend her phone away.

I know some of you will tell me, you just had to play don't fuck up game, and you could of banged her Kaotic,

Yeah...but my soul wasn't into it and I was just killing time tonight.

She just seemed....super jaded, bitter, and angry at the world. It was just flowing through her veins.

The other girl I had pipelined I flaked on and told her I was stuck in traffic, earlier she had told me she isn't free tommorow, but now she's telling me shit is because she isn't hanging with her mom on her bday.

So I got that going and an 19 year old plate wants to me to come by and fuck her.

Like I said before, I think I need a hard reset on game.

Actually I've come to a realization I'm becoming a bit addicted on constantly crunching numbers, constantly on new dates, and new bangs. From Last Monday to Saturday I had sex with a different girl, I think it's deteriorating my game. I don't know how to explain it.

I really think I need to take a step back for a bit. I'm becoming a bit reckless with game, it's on autopilot and usually works and I start not giving a fuck or paying attention.

Post: #5388

(05-13-2015 09:24 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  Did she seem into you? Did you get her to blush? Did you get ANY kino at all?

If so, signs point to her being a feminine, low notch count girl. Continue to game but calibrate to this.

If you never really got her to flirt back/blush and show you interest and if you couldn't get any kino/positive reaction to kino, I'm on the fence.

I got a lot of kino in yes. I could play with her hands and thighs and we teased back and forth a lot. Seems the really shy type and when I teased her she could only come back with "You are so mean" with a big smile. When walking around I held her hand and she doesnt fight it.

Not sure about blushing, couldnt tell with the lighting, but I do think she is interested, perhaps she doesnt know how to show it. One suspicious redflag is that she mentions her neighbor coupled of times during the conversation and I have an inkling that dude might be trying to get into her pants too. Too paranoid?

Since this is the first girl I ran into whose company I actually really enjoy, I'm willing to play a few more dates and see where this go. I feel like I'm dating in the 1950, which is awesome and fucked up at the same time.

Just need to keep my head straight. She might be one of those rare good girls, but if I can't get her she is worth nothing to me and thus nothing special.

Post: #5389

(05-13-2015 08:20 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Ok, just had my first second date with a girl I have not banged nor kissed. This shit never happened to me before. And the thing is, I actually really enjoyed it.

This brunette is feminine, very pleasant, not once during the entire night look at her phone, and passed all compliance test. Smart and could talk about anything.

But I could not escalate. I went in for the kiss twice at the venue, she both said "please, I need time to know you. I cant do this outside of a relationship" I was pretty annoyed but for some reason it doesn't ring my bullshit radar.

Walked her home and got inside using the classic bathroom excuse, talked for another half an hour and tried again to kiss her, but no chance. Though I forgot to play the "let me give you a massage" card.

This situation is just... not in the books. The whole thing feels strange to me.

She is 18, from a small village in the countryside, love both her parents (dad seems redpill, doing karate and shit), so this might be a case of traditional girl not YET getting corrupted by city life.

Girls like this dont stay single for long. I need to bring my tightest game next time. Which is kinda strange: when I'm around her I just feel at ease and doesnt feel any need to actively "game"

I guess femininity does has a way of disarming a player.

I would really hate it if, once this is over, I find out that she is just another slut playing the long game though.

I've been there...not without a makeout, but without sex. I have a girl right now who I'd date who did this to me. Never closed.

Women are smart enough to present their best side to you (not saying she isn't everything you think she is).

As others have said, calibrate to it.

Keep in mind, there's always a chance 2 months from now you still haven't had sex with her and maybe have stopped seeing her. That's just reality.

Pursue her, but don't be afraid to pull back when she shows some advance.

My girl was drunk one night and booty called me, then before doing anything she said sorry and regretted calling me...never banged. I wish I'd have either not gone over or gone over and been aloof and not pushed it.

As my friend (a natural) said to me about this sitch...You're dealing with a woman with options. You're not playing in the NBA...this aint pickup basketball anymore.

Post: #5390

Went out to approach women last weekend.
Reports from china

Last sat. Night:

Went out solo to bar street zhuhai. First time out trying it. Not a bad run. Had a good time, danced on stage a little, hit a few spots opened a few girls.

Passed up my most enthusiastic response, gotta learn to hit while the iron is hot and it cooks off fast. Was walking past two girls, both cute. Gave them a "nihao" and they giggles have me one back, turned heads and looked back at each as we were walking away.
Kept telling myself go after them, go after them, turned around, tried to catch back up but they met up with a few dudes before I could catch up with them. Missed it by that much.
I suppose I still could have tried it, but frame not strong enough yet. I still have a big language barrier here too anyways.

Picked up a few wechats, one girl here was super hot but I got no where with her other than her wechat account. No English at all. Shame really, had to cut the interaction like 2 min in. Couldn't say anything, wasn't feeling a vibe from her either.

Had a date tonight with a solid 7 who's ass and legs could push her into "personal" 8 territory. I have a new life mission to fuck this girl. Last night my company told me leave my area and head to a spot 2 hours away either tonight (date night) or tomorrow mornin to take over a project from a guy who's leaving back to the states. I chose to go tonight just due to the fact if I go tomorrow am, shit wouldn't happen on time, get delayed, and miss my opportunity to learn enough before the guy leaves. It was the right business decision to make but I'm kissed about and I feel like I copped out kind of. Oh well.

I canclled the date on her and she said she's going back to her hometown possibly just as I'm coming back for 2 weeks. Kick me while I'm down. I'll still be here for a little after she comes back so there's still a shot, unless something wild happens. In the mean time I'll have to try to find others.

Need to end this 3.5 year dry streak, but shit like ^ keeps happening to me.

Post: #5391

Some times women are strangely perceptive. Girl opens me again that I met some time before(I don't know women and coffee shops lately :/) and we start talking. Conversation gets to the point where she recognizes I'm a person obsessed with aesthetics(possibly alluding to the fact that I'm shallow). It got me thinking I need to add more substance to my game and my personality.

I feel I'm lacking in how I proceed with women especially in the regard of going through the routines and expressing myself because it feels like I hit a dead end. Conversations have just been stalling and I can't get myself to respond in interesting ways anymore. They try to move things forward with questions but I can't respond or keep going on about things. I can't find ways to squeeze in kino and can't ramble.

I honestly don't know what to do here. I'm starting to think I'm getting bored of this a bit. The passion and ease just isn't there anymore. I feel complacent and unable to work for it.

Post: #5392

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  It got me thinking I need to add more substance to my game and my personality.

I feel I'm lacking in how I proceed with women especially in the regard of going through the routines and expressing myself because it feels like I hit a dead end. Conversations have just been stalling and I can't get myself to respond in interesting ways anymore. They try to move things forward with questions but I can't respond or keep going on about things. I can't find ways to squeeze in kino and can't ramble.

How much information are you consuming on a daily basis?

Personally, I start each day listening to a podcast or audiobook. I read a bunch of articles online during the work day. At lunch I am taking an online class on Kahn Academy. On the drive home or when cooking dinner it's another podcast or audiobook.

I get about 7 magazines in the mail each month as well that I try to read or at least flip through.

Point being, my brain is always filled to the brim with new and interesting shit (interesting to me) and I can't help but jump off on a tangent when I'm having a conversation with someone.

Just a thought, maybe it's something you could try too. It has certainly helped my rambling and conversational abilities.

Post: #5393

(05-14-2015 01:27 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  It got me thinking I need to add more substance to my game and my personality.

I feel I'm lacking in how I proceed with women especially in the regard of going through the routines and expressing myself because it feels like I hit a dead end. Conversations have just been stalling and I can't get myself to respond in interesting ways anymore. They try to move things forward with questions but I can't respond or keep going on about things. I can't find ways to squeeze in kino and can't ramble.

How much information are you consuming on a daily basis?

Personally, I start each day listening to a podcast or audiobook. I read a bunch of articles online during the work day. At lunch I am taking an online class on Kahn Academy. On the drive home or when cooking dinner it's another podcast or audiobook.

I get about 7 magazines in the mail each month as well that I try to read or at least flip through.

Point being, my brain is always filled to the brim with new and interesting shit (interesting to me) and I can't help but jump off on a tangent when I'm having a conversation with someone.

Just a thought, maybe it's something you could try too. It has certainly helped my rambling and conversational abilities.

Ya I haven't been reading books of interest anymore and have actually dumbed myself down to reading countryball comics and accompanying Wikipedia articles. I think my taste in information has been drier as of late so my conversation is boring. Perhaps I need to start reading actual books again.

Post: #5394

(05-14-2015 01:40 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Ya I haven't been reading books of interest anymore and have actually dumbed myself down to reading countryball comics and accompanying Wikipedia articles. I think my taste in information has been drier as of late so my conversation is boring. Perhaps I need to start reading actual books again.

You don't even have to read much, just read *something* every day besides comics.

Even better if you can listen to podcasts since you can be doing other shit while listening. There is a podcast out there for every interest group you could imagine.

It almost doesn't matter what you're consuming, just that you are keeping your mind sharp and learning something new every day.

The other day I talked to a girl about the physics behind supermassive black holes. I don't know if she knew what the hell I was talking about, but the fact that I was passionate about something was enough to keep her engaged.

Don't let your mind atrophy.

Post: #5395

It's funny but sometimes I wish girls would flake on me instead of rocking up to dates not game ready.

Went on a second date with this girl last night, white 6 med student. Our first date went quite well as my ex is a doctor and I was with her all through med school so I related to this girl easily. I screwed up on the first date not pulling the trigger to go back to my place and was determined to not make that mistake again.

This date she doesn't respond to my confirmation text I send at lunch time so I think she's a flake. Then she texts me 20 minutes before our agreed start time saying she's on her way. I thought about blowing her off but we're meeting near my place so I go and meet her.

As soon as I rock up she tells me that she's sick and also injured her knee. (She's a body pump instructor) At first I think this is a good sign as she's still decided to come on our date however pretty soon I realise that nothing is going to happen as her energy is low, I'm having to do a lot of work with the conversation and she isn't drinking.
I have one drink and then suggest we bounce to another bar but I knew she wasn't going to go for it. She doesn't and just says she's going to go home. I go for the kiss as we're saying goodbye but she rejects me saying she "doesn't want to make me sick".

The whole thing was waste of my time, money and energy and I wish she'd actually flaked on me so I could have stayed at home.

TL;DR - Went on a date with a girl who was sick and I wish she'd just flaked on me instead and saved me the time and money.

Post: #5396

An interesting week I've had in a big city that I'm considering moving to. I drove here last Thursday. Had my 'sure thing' Mexican fitness model girl lined up. A 20 year old 7. very quiet calm demeanor. We had dinner at a place within walking distance to my hotel I'm staying at in a nice shopping township. Went back for drinks in the hotel lobby then upstairs to seal the deal. She's not the kind of girl I want to see a lot, maybe once every 10 days or so. I like a little livelier personality.

A really hot Latina I'd banged on my last trip, a 21 year old 8.5 and I had been texting and set a date for Monday night. We had amazing sex a few weeks ago. I was really looking forward to seeing her again as she was very attractive and had a great personality. I texted her Monday to say I look forward to seeing her and she hits me with: I'm sorry, I'm running the late shift tonight for .....who called me. How long are you in town for?" Well, at least she offered an alternative. We agreed to meet on Wednesday and she added to her text "and I can spend the night this time" Although my spidey senses go off when ever a girl reschedules, the spend the night bit made me feel better.

So, I arranged a date with another online prospect a little later in the day for Monday night - a 5'11 blonde who'd sent me her selfie and looked damn good in it ( as did her online profile pics) 21 year old LA transplant to this city. So, I confirm with her in the afternoon and she says it's on. When I get to the venue, I text her I have a table. Ten minutes later , I get this gem:
"Hey sorry I'm not going to be able to make it"

I was fuming a bit. I couldn't help but fire off this retribution text: " You're sorry.....and you're deleted." Deleted her number and her text thread.

As I was walking back to my hotel, I texted another girl from an online site who had told me she was available tonight earlier in the day, but I had pushed her off for this tall blonde that just flaked. Only problem was, it was now about 8.30. Regardless, I hit her up : "Hey, I got done earlier than I thought tonight. You want to meet for a drink?"

Her: It depends ...where?

It was a close location for her so we met at 9.15 at a nice restaurant bar ( 5 minute walk from my hotel)

I get there first and I'm talking to some guy at the bar I recognize as a waiter at one of the bars I frequent in town. Cool local guy and we're having a good conversation. At 9.15 I decide to shoot home girl a text: "I'm here"

Her: "Me too...at bar"

I look at my buddy...."oh dang she's here" He says: I think that's her down at the end.

I turn around and see a cute smiling mixed girl. Shake hands with my bud and head down. She's very gregarious and open. Smiling and laughing a lot. Good energy. We move to an outside table. Kino and joking, etc.

After a drink, I say, let's talk a walk it's such a nice night. Naturally, we're walking back to my place. We converse and check out all the clothes and shoes behind the shop windows as we walk. I say "they've always got a guy playing music in the lobby at the hotel I'm at. Let's grab a drink and listen to it" She agrees.

Grab a drink and sit in the lobby. There's no one playing tonight so I'm like "oh..I don't think they play on Mondays"

We had some more positive banter on the couch. I've dropped a few lines about "I like staying here. They treat their guests well and always give me a room with a good view." So...I suggest "Let's go check out the view I was telling you about."

Her: Are you just trying to get me to your room?
Me acting innocent: "Naahh, I'm just trying to be a little creative and have some variety on our date" smirk.
Her: OK!

we get to the room and check out "The view" which is really nothing more than a view of the shopping center/strip mall area we were at.

Her: This view is not so great!
Me: Ha...yeah, not now I admit. I thought we might catch the sunset as you can see the hills on the horizon. That is pretty...but it's too late. (not sure if she buys it)

Got on the bed and started watching TV. She was rolled toward me. After 10 minutes went for the make out. It was warmly received and the bang followed. Bang all over the room. she had a great 5'7" runner's body. Slim but nice legs. smallish to medium sized breasts. She's 24. Afterwards I drop her off at her car.

For what it's worth, she's been long responding in her texts post bang and downright ignored one I sent yesterday afternoon about hanging out. I'm going to wait until next week to try to restart. Dang female pump and dumps!

I took a rest day on Tuesday night because I wanted to be ready for my 8.5 Latina on Wednesday night. Wednesday morning comes and about 9 I'm driving towards downtown as I'm apartment hunting and I see my phone blow up with two texts. I just had a feeling.

It's the 8.5 hot Latina I was to see tonight. Her text: "I'm sorry for wasting your time. You're a nice man with a big heart. I didn't find what I wanted on the site and deleted my profile. I met a man my own age I'm falling for. Thanks for your time"

Damn. An hour later I hit her up with " Good luck w everything and thanks for the nice words. I'm relocating here btw. If things don't work out or you change your mind, let me know."

Her: I will let you know. Thank you

Sucks and I was disappointed but I can't be too disappointed as I'm in my 40s and she's early 20s (though she thought I was in my 30s). It's natural for her to want a boyfriend around her own age I suppose.

Thursday night , I met with my reliable Mexican girl again. We went to a fun arcade pool hall type of bar and had a good time. Back to my room afterwards.

All in all I'm having fun in town and seriously considering moving to the big city from my comparatively small town as there are so many more female prospects that are available just through online/tinder (not to mention day game and night game which I haven't tried yet) that it's not funny.

By the way, that 21 year old blonde that flaked on me Monday night texted a few days later: I got rear ended and was filling out insurance reports, but whatever. Shit happens. Take care"

I told her if she still wanted to meet that I would as I'm on the fence for believing her and she's quite cute. She texted me today she wanted to meet tonight, but I pushed it until tomorrow (friday) as I just feel like resting tonight.

We'll see if she can make it this time without any "automobile mishaps"

Post: #5397

This just struck me:

Considering how many single moms I encounter using online dating sites, I'm kind of surprised that I've never fucked a pregnant girl.

Seems like with all these single moms out there, that there would be an equally ample supply of horny 20-something pregnant girls trolling for dick online.

Post: #5398

Had the strangest date I've ever been on last night.

I got this cute Thai/Filipina looking girls number off POF a couple of weeks back. She gave it up really easily and seemed really enthusiastic. She works ever night except Friday's and Sunday's so it was hard to find a time to meet. I didn't really chase it very hard as I have been quite busy and had a bunch of new numbers.
Then she hits me up on Thursday asking me what I'm doing Friday night. I tell her I have a work dinner and she asks me if we can meet before hand. I agree and tell her to meet me at my regular 1st date bar at 5. I think this is looking quite good...

However that was the high water mark because it all went down hill from there. She is half an hour late for our date because she had to go home and charge her phone before coming to the date and then has trouble finding the place (google maps bitch). Eventually she arrives and she is totally in-congruent with her texts.
She spends the whole date acting like she would rather be anywhere else than sitting there with me. Conversation is like pulling teeth, she doesn't ask me any questions at all, even when I give her material to launch from, to the point where I start to struggle keeping it going which never happens to me. Nor does she engage with my teasing. She leaves her coat on the whole time, arms crossed, legs crossed, body rigidly facing forward, doesn't get a drink, keeps checking her phone and looking at her watch. When I grab her wrist lightly to ask her about her watch she acts like I've given her an electric shock.

I tried for 45 minutes before I gave up, finished my drink and told her I had to go. She seemed more than happy with this outcome.

I've never had a girl do this before, especially not ones who have asked me out. I may not get the bang but I have always been able to warm a girl up enough to get good conversation and body language from her. It's like she decided she didn't want a bar of me the minute she laid eyes one me. It was so weird and the most awkward date I've ever been on.

Post: #5399

So I usually don't do night game, but I was spontaneously invited out to go bar hopping with a few red pill buddies that I met recently by chance. After a day approach that didn't hook at all I thought what the hell. This was the first time going out with these cats.

I went home, got suited up and met them downtown. Likewise they were dressed well, as expected. We went to this high end place with a great view of the midtown skyline, basically level with the Empire State Building. It was crowded as hell and the environment wasn't as target rich that night as you might think, but what was great about the place was that assortive mating was definitely in place. The hot young girls there were natural enough to fall into our laps since we were young, fit, dressed well, and had some game.

Almost as soon as we hit the place one of my friends basically got opened. This chick was eyeballing him ravenously. He immediately took control of the situation, told her to stay put, told us what was going on, grabbed her hand and walked right over to a secluded spot. My other buddy and I went to get some drinks as we let him do his thing.

Fast forward some time later. I didn't see too much that I liked in the joint at first. Like I said the venue was surprisingly a bit target poor given its location and high-end clientele, but there were a lot of people there, and a lot of single people there. As the occasion continues I got opened by this chick that I wasn't much attracted to, but I was friendly to her. Then the hilarious and funnest part of the night comes along, this beta comes up and basically tried to cockblock me. He isn't dressed like a winner and he certainly had no game. Whereas I did my usual back and forth of making silly assumptions about girls to find out a bit more about them, he was asking all the generic questions we here know not to ask. As my buddy said last night: "that shit is dead."

But then the twist comes. This guy brings up this hot girl I had my eye on but mistakenly believed she was with somebody. She wasn't. Asian, great lithe body, nice rack, hair down to her waist. When we as a group were all playing ping pong and making as much fun of the boring generics as we could, I mentioned my line of work and I could see her starting to lean in to me with that look in her eyes. My wings have already been brought up to deflect the attempted cockblocker and the other chick, so knowing that the signals were very much there I did as my friend did earlier and took this girl's hand, led her away from the group, and isolated her.

The craft that I've been honing in day game bled over very well. I just turned up the heat a lot and escalated it as far as I could take it to the point that I was grabbing on her ass. She likewise as all over me. That was probably more than half the communication. The rest was me basically being an overpowering dick and busting on her no matter where the subject went. I teased her for being bored doing Excel spreadsheets all day while I got to do something exciting. I knew I was doing all the right things for sure when she said:

"You look like a good guy on the outside but you're really a bad boy. You're kind of arrogant."

I was baiting her about my life's MASTER PLAN which she was curious about, but I told her that she wouldn't get to know about it until she gave me a kiss. She went "but I don't do that when I first meet someone!" I countered that I don't tell all my plans to people I first meet either. She tried, I dropped hints, but wouldn't do it.

In retrospect, I probably should have taken her to some other part of the place to create more of a bond and escalate into kissing non-verbally.

She also told me she was a belly dancer. I told her to get up and do some moves for me. She did.

The whole thing was hilarious. I just kept my dominant frame the entire time and did some heavy GLL-style screening and escalation. When me and my buddies had to leave I told her to put her to give me her number and spell her name out. She shit tested me then by asking if I remembered her name. I basically just brushed it off saying I have a good memory but am not great with names for some reason without giving a shit. I knew I nuked the shit test when she teased me that it was the weed (I jokingly told her some stories about my escapades and paranoia-inducing weed smoking as a teenager). I'll text her later and see what happens.

I think I might have to do this night game thing a bit more. It's my personal proof that if you master the fundamentals of game in one setting, it translates easily into another. I basically just did my day game routines on steroids. The demographics were also pretty favorable. There were chumps everywhere in that joint. It really isn't that hard at all to excel and get the hot girls via assortive mating. I have one to thank for that whole interaction, after all.

Post: #5400

(05-16-2015 10:01 AM)Libertas Wrote:  So I usually don't do night game, but I was spontaneously invited out to go bar hopping with a few red pill buddies that I met recently by chance. After a day approach that didn't hook at all I thought what the hell. This was the first time going out with these cats.

I went home, got suited up and met them downtown. Likewise they were dressed well, as expected. We went to this high end place with a great view of the midtown skyline, basically level with the Empire State Building. It was crowded as hell and the environment wasn't as target rich that night as you might think, but what was great about the place was that assortive mating was definitely in place. The hot young girls there were natural enough to fall into our laps since we were young, fit, dressed well, and had some game.

Almost as soon as we hit the place one of my friends basically got opened. This chick was eyeballing him ravenously. He immediately took control of the situation, told her to stay put, told us what was going on, grabbed her hand and walked right over to a secluded spot. My other buddy and I went to get some drinks as we let him do his thing.

Fast forward some time later. I didn't see too much that I liked in the joint at first. Like I said the venue was surprisingly a bit target poor given its location and high-end clientele, but there were a lot of people there, and a lot of single people there. As the occasion continues I got opened by this chick that I wasn't much attracted to, but I was friendly to her. Then the hilarious and funnest part of the night comes along, this beta comes up and basically tried to cockblock me. He isn't dressed like a winner and he certainly had no game. Whereas I did my usual back and forth of making silly assumptions about girls to find out a bit more about them, he was asking all the generic questions we here know not to ask. As my buddy said last night: "that shit is dead."

But then the twist comes. This guy brings up this hot girl I had my eye on but mistakenly believed she was with somebody. She wasn't. Asian, great lithe body, nice rack, hair down to her waist. When we as a group were all playing ping pong and making as much fun of the boring generics as we could, I mentioned my line of work and I could see her starting to lean in to me with that look in her eyes. My wings have already been brought up to deflect the attempted cockblocker and the other chick, so knowing that the signals were very much there I did as my friend did earlier and took this girl's hand, led her away from the group, and isolated her.

The craft that I've been honing in day game bled over very well. I just turned up the heat a lot and escalated it as far as I could take it to the point that I was grabbing on her ass. She likewise as all over me. That was probably more than half the communication. The rest was me basically being an overpowering dick and busting on her no matter where the subject went. I teased her for being bored doing Excel spreadsheets all day while I got to do something exciting. I knew I was doing all the right things for sure when she said:

"You look like a good guy on the outside but you're really a bad boy. You're kind of arrogant."

I was baiting her about my life's MASTER PLAN which she was curious about, but I told her that she wouldn't get to know about it until she gave me a kiss. She went "but I don't do that when I first meet someone!" I countered that I don't tell all my plans to people I first meet either. She tried, I dropped hints, but wouldn't do it.

In retrospect, I probably should have taken her to some other part of the place to create more of a bond and escalate into kissing non-verbally.

She also told me she was a belly dancer. I told her to get up and do some moves for me. She did.

The whole thing was hilarious. I just kept my dominant frame the entire time and did some heavy GLL-style screening and escalation. When me and my buddies had to leave I told her to put her to give me her number and spell her name out. She shit tested me then by asking if I remembered her name. I basically just brushed it off saying I have a good memory but am not great with names for some reason without giving a shit. I knew I nuked the shit test when she teased me that it was the weed (I jokingly told her some stories about my escapades and paranoia-inducing weed smoking as a teenager). I'll text her later and see what happens.

I think I might have to do this night game thing a bit more. It's my personal proof that if you master the fundamentals of game in one setting, it translates easily into another. I basically just did my day game routines on steroids. The demographics were also pretty favorable. There were chumps everywhere in that joint. It really isn't that hard at all to excel and get the hot girls via assortive mating. I have one to thank for that whole interaction, after all.

That's the magic of game. I don't like girls as intellectual companions I like them as emotional, entertainment enhancements to my life. Winning them and being successful with them opens up an instinctual drive inherent to men where we are driven forward by our success. Glad to see a comrade at arms doing well out there.