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Post: #5352

(05-06-2015 12:36 AM)Ruga Wrote:  How do you handle low energy girls on dates? Just got back from hanging out with a Tinder girl. She said she was sick and I believe her. She seemed like she just wanted to go to bed and I aborted after 45min as a result. I didn't really escalate as she was out of it. But say she she wasn't sick and just a boring girl, do you approach the date in a different way?

Your date was sick, if she told me before the date that she was, I'd of immediately cancelled her, and gone with a Plan B.

Last thing I want to do is hangout with a girl who isn't giving me 100%.

Some girls are just super quiet, shy, and reserved. Mirror their energy and probe to see if she's interested, drop bait of heading back to your pad, and escalate.

If she's boring you, cut your losses and leave asap, you don't owe her anything besides a polite exit.

If she doesn't pass the boner test, see above.

I've dealt with girls who are low energy yet I've banged the same night. Like I said before, mirror their energy, slow and low voice, go to a quieter more intimate venue. Drop that bait about some cool things you have at your pad or some netflix movie/show. GAUGE her, see how she reacts, physically and emotionally.

Post: #5353

(05-04-2015 07:00 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  banging a 6 .... or .... have a great date with an 8

Like Redbeard said,

Do both.

Bang the 6 if you want to. (I banged 6s when I was a beginner)

But, also, try to bang 8s.

And, don't forget about the sexy 7s!

For me, getting higher quality was a gradual progression -- 6s, 6.5s, 7s, 7.5s, 8s -- Each numerical increase required about a year of hard work. It took me a few years to go from the 6 range to the 8 range.

Keep working. You are getting better every month. 7s and 8s are in your future.

Post: #5354

Something about stoner girls and cigarettes work so magically together. It's like carrot and stick.

Post: #5355

Well I've definitely mastered the art of pissing off the last few Main's I've had so bad, that they send guys after me to threaten me. Naturally I invited the violence and the white knights both backed off quick.

It probably comes from the point I enlighten them what I really think of their selfish behavior and personalities after banging them and past their expiration dates. Time to paint with softer brush strokes or not even have a main around anymore. All the b.s. isn't worth the opportunity costs. I think I've reached the point of putting up with no cuntishness whatsoever and 99% of guys pander to it with western females, so I seem like a mega-asshole in comparison.

Ironically, my less frequent girls are pretty damn cool and I have yet to have a boring or bad time with any of them. Tally ho.

Post: #5356

(05-06-2015 12:07 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Each numerical increase required about a year of hard work. It took me a few years to go from the 6 range to the 8 range.

just kidding. Actually having a timeline like that makes it easier to digest.

Quote:And, don't forget about the sexy 7s!

This is quite an interesting position actually. Without going into a debate over the 10 scale, I would say I can get a 6 consistently with the right logistics.

But as we discussed in an earlier post, Im trying to get rid of the unconscious inner imp that says I cant get 8s (which is why I usually fucked up when an 8 shows IOI), I only approach 8s now. So far most of the time it ends up with me going out with her having a fuckawesome time but cant get the bang before the girl somehow disappear. The one time I succeeded felt like ascension to heaven though.

7s never quite actually fit into my operational range because, either I dont approach them (theres always an 8 wherever I go) or Im gaming a 6 who gives me solid IOI.

For the moment, yeah do both. 6s are solid training ground. 8 is where you take that training and try to hit the finish line. Further down the line I need to get 7s as training ground.

Post: #5357

Game hard for the next 3 weeks, these are the times that will set pace for the rest of your summer... in northern half of U.S. anyways. This my target time of year.

Post: #5358

Have you guys ever heard of the musician Ariel Pink? I like his music, but always figured he was gay or very fem based on his looks...

Might have an indy redpiller on our hands...

'He continues, "So I let her shout at the top of her lungs at me for a long time, then I said something like, 'Shut your mouth, little girl, respect your elders, and fucking get out of here.'"

http://pitchfork.com/news/56089-ariel-pi...-feminist/

Post: #5359

Just texted a sweet 21 yr old hottie I met ~3 months ago. It was a Sunday evening, we really hit it off, she wanted to stay but was with friend and had to go. She was diggin it, was even throwing out the "you should come have fun at my lake house, hang out on the boat" sorta language.

I got her number and we never met up. I've seen her once or twice when out and said hi, but never put in any time.

Anywho, just now I texted her and got the "who is this" text back. Sure, I could probably still recover and meet up with her (I still might). And her response in no way means she isn't interested. In fact, I think she is. But thinking back on that Sunday evening, on how turned on she was by my quips and teases and touches, I know when we meet again, I'll just be some guy who got her number.

This experience is a reminder, to myself and ya'll, of the fickle-ness of a woman's attraction for a man. One moment she wants to go home with me, take me up to her lake house, meet her family, have my babies. The next moment I'm just your average joe strugglin to get laid.

The same holds true regardless of the situation or relationship. Your girlfriend isn't always attracted to you. First there's her, her mood, what she ate, how her day went, her friends. Then there's the situation, day or night, social event or alone, drinking or sober. And then finally, there's you, how you're standing, what you're wearing, alone, listening, or speaking. From an attraction standpoint, there are plenty of times when your long-term girl sees you as an average joe.

How to leverage women's fickle-ness to your advantage:
- When you see a girl, don't worry about not knowing her. From an attraction standpoint, just about every guy in the place is an average joe to her. It's more likely she's looking at you in a better light than the guys around her.
- When you see a girl you've met before and hit it off with, don't assume she's still digging ya. Assume you'll have to start from scratch.
- When you meet up with your girl, don't assume she's attracted to you on sight. She's not like you. Assume you'll have to start from scratch to get the snatch. The sex will be better, she'll stick around longer, and she'll thank you for it.

Basically, always be on. Never take a woman's attraction for granted.

Post: #5360

Rather than getting SIFed from a Tinder date (which has yet to happen to me), I got.. well. SITed? or SILSPed I guess you'd call it. I chat with this girl on off for a few weeks, quickly getting her Ph# and off Tinder to text during first interaction.

She seems shy, squeamish type, sends pics. OK face. very thin but sexy body. 5'7" 120 lbs.. a little to thin but nonetheless, I like them dainty. We don't talk on phone, no biggie, just texts. I've met numerous girls I've never actually spoke to talking and never had a problem.

I meet her at a bar, and somehow she creatively hid the fact she has 1 tooth up front that never showed too well in pics that was jacked. Moreover, she had a pretty serious overbite she hid just right with way she smiled in pics.. and when she spoke, she had a pretty serious lisp.

Now normally if the girl is hot enough, I can over look SOME flaws, but God damned, this was just wrong. I should have been a bigger prick and walked the fuck out.. not like all the rest of her was bad at all, but bag over the head with ear plugs in fucks aren't my thing. Had a few drinks and talked about some similar social circles we knew then I bolted.

OKC I never use my account but check it every 2 months just in case. I get on and this girl messages me.. seems so-so lookin, probably a 5.5-6. I fire back and right away get her # for more pics. I've wrote off anything not close to the 7 territory a while back, but requested more pics once i had her # anyways. Turns out she's a solid 6+, 5'6" 130lbs.. just plain Jane lookin but those can be the secret fuck beasts so... The story she tells me has me lining up a meet up.

She says:"I'm 30 and haven't been with a man in 12 years."
Me: "What? Are you serious? I see your profile says you're gay, so are you saying you're actually BI or what? You've been sleeping ONLY with women for 12 fuckin years?"
Her: "Yea, and I can't believe I'm telling you this but this is my first time on a dating site (yea right), and I really think you look cute.. but well.."
Me: "But what? spill the beans damn it!"
Her: "I guess I just really want to feel what it's like to get fucked by a man again."

I went onto explain I don't judge, and that I'm good at creating comfort with the "right girl," yada yada.

So she's down to schedule a meet up near her place, probably get a room at a hotel or something sounds like.. (she lives 35 min away in a college town of sexy women).

Operation: "Convert Dyke to Dick" underway.

Post: #5361

Been focusing on business a few weeks. I drove to the city I've been having success in instead of flying. 8 hours and got a room booked for at least a week.

Had a date set up with a "fitness" freak as her profile says and pic attested to. Confirmed the day of. I'm sitting there waiting pimped out and at 8.10....once she's already 10 minutes late I text: Close?

A few minutes later her response: where are you
Me: Im at xyz like I messaged you...where are you
Her...I'm at Bills (bar ) didn't know
I feel the heat building up on my forehead. Lying bitch.
I shoot of a rash text: "If you want to get together tonight let me know asap. There's other women I could be doing things with now but I chose to see you.
Her a few mins later: Uhh ok? Go see them
Me: Will do

So I start walking back to my hotel. Firing off texts to three different backups. All of them respond but since it's 8.30 they're either working tonight or doing things with their girlfriends. All indicate they want to do something in the next few days. I think, fuck it, I'm tired from driving (I really was) Just going to relax and get some sleep as I have a date with another girl lined up tomorrow.

At the hotel, I start to relax, sitting there in my blazer, ps and chinos sprawled across the bed watching espn. Phone vibrates and it's the fitness freak.
Her: Want to meet at (XYZ) bar downtown?
She's trying to get me to bend to her frame. I think, screw the principled bullshit....she's hot in her pics and here I am in a hotel room watching sports highlights.
Me: Sure...when?
Her: Now.
Me. On my way.

I get there and it's pretty crowded hip multi roomed bar. I Text her that I'm here and where is she. She calls me and we both walk around the crowded bar until we see each other through the crowd, each of us on our phone. From her look, it seemed she liked what she saw in me. I liked what I saw:

She is hot. Tight very athletic body. Long blonde hair. She's about 5'4 and 23.

Got a couch and talked a while with our drinks. She was on/off distracted. Turns out she used to bartend which explains the "shield" and quasi distracted attitude. She would look at me with coy eyes and flip her hair a lot too though.

Her damn roommate was literally blowing her phone up as if coaching her through the date and this girl was responding to the texts. she's say "I'm listening go ahead" (anyone have advice for what to say/do when a not present yet constantly texting roommate or friend is cockblocking you by sending your date incessant texts? )

It kind of pissed me off but I acted like it didn't bother me. At one point, I ignored her and returned two texts I got. I also made fun of how she kept responding to texts during the date. It didn't really phase her.

She asked a lot of questions like how long I was in town what I did, etc. I suggested a venue bounce to my hotel and she came out and said "I don't sleep with someone on the first date" I responded "whoa, slow down....who's talking about sleeping with each other. I want to take you to check out the band in the lobby there."

She gave me a knowing nod. Bartenders have seen it all. She brought up doing coffee/breakfast and walking by the river today. I'm probably going to text her this morning to see if she wants to do something today. I'll try to bounce her back here to the hotel.

After the date, I walked her to her apartment across the street. She voluntarily wrapped her arm around mind like I was her escort as we walked. Kiss closed: We had a good kiss and smile at the end.

Whether it works with her or not, I've got a few others lined up the next few days. We'll see.

Post: #5362

(05-07-2015 10:14 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  'He continues, "So I let her shout at the top of her lungs at me for a long time, then I said something like, 'Shut your mouth, little girl, respect your elders, and fucking get out of here.'"

http://pitchfork.com/news/56089-ariel-pi...-feminist/

At first, I started reading them as if they were lyrics

Post: #5363

Real rough weekend for me.

Last night I went out with a big group of guys. I'd say about half had game and were down to split up/approach girls. It was a good squad.

It's getting kind of late and I approach this hipster girl who's smoking (if she smokes she pokes). We're just talking low key, it's her birthday, things are going OK, then she moves the cigarette out of my mouth and starts making out with me. Closing time was soon so I hedged my bets and said fuck it it's her night.

Her friend was a huge cockblock. I could tell from the beginning. Her friend was talking to my buddy but it wasn't going well...meanwhile me and hipster girl are going at it pretty hard.

I was apprehensive about going out with a large group of guys...but it actually helped. I'm with hipster girl and my friend walks by and says hey to the cockblock. Turns out he used to fuck the cockblock on the reg, so he gets subbed in and I put my odds a little higher.

Bars close, I mention that my apartment complex has a saltwater pool, we head to cockblock's house so they can get their bathing suits (red flag), we head back, pop a bottle of Mionetto, and hit the pool.

All I did was makeout with my girl, but things were looking up. The cockblock was making out hard with my buddy, the champagne was in our system, and I was happy.

Then we get back to my apartment and the girls want to leave. I tried to keep them, but nothing was working. I was pissed/drunk and didn't get the girl's # because I was pissed.

Needless to say it was a rough night.

I should've noticed after they got their bathing suits that they didn't wanna fuck. If they did, they would've gone in their underwear. There was resistance from the cockblock from the beginning that I should've noticed.

Post: #5364

(05-05-2015 01:27 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 10:38 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  I've always wanted to be a guy who goes for quality over quantity but in reality quantity has its place.

I agree here. Being a player means sleeping with a lot of girls, and some are going to be hotter than others. That is the reality of it, as you say.

But really, who cares?

I think what's even better is when you can let go of "what number" a girl is.

Tonight I had sex with a girl on out first meetup. She was skinny and had long hair. But, I have no idea if she was a 5, 6, 7, or 8.

What I do know is that she was a cool girl with a calm presence and I enjoyed hanging out with her, taking about life. The sex was some of the best first-time sex I've experienced. Afterward, we talked in bed for a bit then she got dressed and went home.

What would it matter what number she is on the 1-10 scale? It won't change anything. Stressing out about "quality over quantity" wouldn't change much either.

She just is. And so am I. And accepting that feels really good.

Honestly I think of quality over quantity as banging girls 6+ than just purely porking over girls in 4-5 range mainly to get notches. Notches shouldn't matter as much as general quality in that regard always go for the 6+(But honestly I would be that guy who goes for the 8 that's a may be than the solid 6).

Anyways my life right now. Yesterday I bought a pack Nat Sherman's and was enjoyably smoking them at my favorite coffee shop. Out of nowhere a girl I opened months ago came up to me and started talking to me out of nowhere. If I had made the effort to procur some booze I might have gotten the notch instead I found more satisfaction in being dressed to the Nines and smoking some exquisite cigarettes only regretting it after the fact that I could have atleast made out with her without alcohol or secured a bang with it.

Take a leg from me and do not get caught in the player/aloof mindset. Being the mentally hard ass player to the point you are so caught up in it that you are ignoring bangs is just as toxic as being the beta. It might even be the equivalent of fedora wearing neckbeards being keyboard jockeys/wannabe elitist.

Post: #5365

Im getting a fairly consistent feedback from my growing wolf pack :

« You dont have to always try to get her to bed right away. Sometimes its good to take things a bit slow to make the girls feel at ease, and then they will want you more »

Reason being I always try to first date bang close, or at the very least get some passionate kissing in.

Thing is, the three guys giving me this advice are all white, slightly above average height and decent looking. They are game aware though (one has 35 notches)

So I tell them exactly that : You pretty white boys have the luxury to take it slow because you are playing on your home court. I cannot. As an Asian with an accent and below average height , I have to close aggressively and strike hard fast, or the girl will just disappear. Girls nowadays have way too much options for you to play it slow.

One of them said « you are devaluing yourself too much »

For some reason that phrase has been sticking with me.

Reality is indeed that I either close on first date or SNL, or nothing at all and I never see the girl again. I think of all the dates I went on and didnt close, I had zero second dates.

Thats why I have been pretty set in my way. However, Im thinking if its not my aggressive all or nothing attitude that make things the way they are. If a girl is not feeling me on the first date, though I keep pushing for another date, my mind already decides that its over.

Maybe its this attitude that’s leaking out and girls sense this ? That I know since I have little chance I have to close now. Thats an auto assumption of low value on my part. My game is smooth but aggressive according to my wings, but I do show signs of "fuck this shit" if the girl is taking her fucking time.

I see little interest in experimenting with going slower, but maybe I’m just being stubborn ?

Thoughts ?

Post: #5366

(05-07-2015 03:55 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:07 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  It took me a few years to go from the 6 range to the 8 range.

Like we discussed before: Sex is easy, game is hard.

If you want to have sex with an 8, rent one, get a prostitute.

If you want an 8 to have sex with you, start moving away from the 6s and towards the 7s.

(05-07-2015 03:55 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I need to get 7s as training ground.

Yes!

7s are your bridge from 6s to 8s!

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(05-08-2015 04:19 PM)heavy Wrote:  Just texted a sweet 21 yr old hottie I met ~3 months ago.

(05-08-2015 04:19 PM)heavy Wrote:  .... but never put in any time.

(05-08-2015 04:19 PM)heavy Wrote:  I texted her and got the "who is this" text back.

It's not necessarily her fault.

For the sake of learning, you should take some responsibility.

You got her attracted..

Then, by not following up effectively, you allowed the "window of attraction" to close.

Attraction is never "set in stone". It evolves and changes over time. It requires nurturing and attention.

We cannot wait around doing nothing and assume that the attraction will remain as it was.

We must "strike when the iron is hot". We must seize sexual opportunities when they become available.

Failing to take action, delaying action, and/or waiting, often leads to missed opportunities, like what happened here.

The sexuality of a young female is dictated by emotions, feelings, hormones, etc. These things can change daily.

When they are aligned in your favor, take action. Failing to do so can cause them to re-align in a way that is not in your favor.

Your own inaction was the biggest issue here.

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(05-11-2015 11:06 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  my aggressive all or nothing attitude

Being overly aggressive can be representative of the following:

- desperation
- neediness

- lack of social grace
- lack of experience

Aggression is good, but, we must match our level of aggression with the girls level of comfort.

Continue to be aggressive, but, work on NOT APPEARING so aggressive.

Post: #5367

(05-11-2015 12:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Continue to be aggressive, but, work on NOT APPEARING so aggressive.

Please speak English. This is gold stuff right here.

Post: #5368

(05-11-2015 12:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 04:19 PM)heavy Wrote:  Just texted a sweet 21 yr old hottie I met ~3 months ago.

(05-08-2015 04:19 PM)heavy Wrote:  .... but never put in any time.

(05-08-2015 04:19 PM)heavy Wrote:  I texted her and got the "who is this" text back.

It's not necessarily her fault.

For the sake of learning, you should take some responsibility.

You got her attracted..

Then, by not following up effectively, you allowed the "window of attraction" to close.

Attraction is never "set in stone". It evolves and changes over time. It requires nurturing and attention.

We cannot wait around doing nothing and assume that the attraction will remain as it was.

We must "strike when the iron is hot". We must seize sexual opportunities when they become available.

Failing to take action, delaying action, and/or waiting, often leads to missed opportunities, like what happened here.

The sexuality of a young female is dictated by emotions, feelings, hormones, etc. These things can change daily.

When they are aligned in your favor, take action. Failing to do so can cause them to re-align in a way that is not in your favor.

Your own inaction was the biggest issue here.

Yep, totally true. This is why I post in this thread...because I was typing some knowledge, not necessarily looking for feedback, but in the end Gio offered some well appreciated insight.

I've been reading some gems by WIA lately, and realized I need to re-visit my game.

1 Approach...simple

2 Go for it, escalate...My thoughts should be to have fun with game and teasing, flirting with my actions be moving the interaction toward sex (naturally, ideally). Don't worry about neediness.
/thread-28722-...#pid547863

3 Work on game beyond approach. Day 2, day 3, post bang, everything. The non-alcohol posts really got me thinking.
/thread-47304-...pid1017515

This link is in my signature, but I feel the need to bump it occasionally for everyone. I have it bookmarked...always good to go back and read up.
Mining the RVF...the best of RVF from the respected bros on here.

Look back at some old MM...something WIA references at times. Remember, it is all about game.

Post: #5369

(05-12-2015 08:55 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 12:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Continue to be aggressive, but, work on NOT APPEARING so aggressive.

Please speak English. This is gold stuff right here.

I used to be very aggressive, too aggressive, it made me look needy, desperate, and inexperienced.

After years of practice, I learned how to appear less aggressive.

How?

A few things:

- Aloof Body and Facial Language -- I don't stare at her or admire her. I don't focus myself on what she is doing. I don't make her the center of my universe. I don't give her constant attention. I strategically ignore her at times and I don't react to every little thing she says or does. When I was a beginner, I used to give her my full attention and this would make me appear overly aggressive and thirsty.

- Comfort/Connection Building -- I don't try to escalate physically until after we have established a bit of comfort. I talk to her about her interests and passions. I don't get physical until after I see that she is comfortable psychologically. When I was a beginner, I would try to kiss her as soon as we were alone which often made me appear desperate and unseasoned.

- Don't Rush -- If I don't bang on the first date, it's no big deal. We must be willing to do a 2nd or even 3rd date. I don't put pressure on a girl to take her clothes off. I try a few ties and if she doesn't want to do it, I remain calm and show no emotional reaction. When I was a beginner, I would beg and plead with girls to take their clothes off which made me appear immature and sophomoric.

- Disguise every Escalation -- I don't say, "lets hang out". I say, "lets go eat". I don't say, "wanna come over my house". I say, "I'm cooking later if you want to come help me". I use language that does not sound aggressive. I don't say, "lets go makeout". I say, "lets go get ice cream". When I was a beginner, I was obvious about my intentions, too obvious, now, I am more subtle which gives both of us "plausible denialability".

- "Soft Stroking" -- I escalate strategically. Before I go for the kiss, I caress her hands. Before I take her clothes off, I caress her body. I alow her to get comfortable with each advancement in touch. When I was a beginner, I just went straight for the kiss.

Everything I Do Is About Getting Her On My Couch, but, it never feels or appears like I am aggressively trying to do that. It's all disguised as making dinner plans, watching a certain tv show, discussing a certain hobby, listening to certain music, etc. It's never about the sex, its always about something else.

In my mind, it was always about the sex, but, I never let her know that.

That, is how I learned to appear less aggressive.



P.S. That said, there are certain situations when I throw all these rules out of the window and get very apologetically aggressive. For example, when a girl is looking at me with those "come fuck me" eyes, or when I can feel the warmth rising from her pussy, or when we are drunk and she is being aggressive with me.

I just wrote these rules to help beginners.

Post: #5370

A+ post Gio.

Could you expand upon this a little:

Quote:- Don't Rush -- If I don't bang on the first date, it's no big deal. We must be willing to do a 2nd or even 3rd date. I don't put pressure on a girl to take her clothes off. I try a few ties and if she doesn't want to do it, I remain calm and show no emotional reaction. When I was a beginner, I would beg and plead with girls to take their clothes off which made me appear immature and sophomoric.

Is this because of abundance?

*I have a draft prepared about this...earlier I posted about how I didn't gets girls # after she didn't wanna bang...but was content because I feel so abundant. I need to listen to my dick more and line girls up better.

Post: #5371

Quote:Your date was sick, if she told me before the date that she was, I'd of immediately cancelled her, and gone with a Plan B.

Last thing I want to do is hangout with a girl who isn't giving me 100%.

Some girls are just super quiet, shy, and reserved. Mirror their energy and probe to see if she's interested, drop bait of heading back to your pad, and escalate.

If she's boring you, cut your losses and leave asap, you don't owe her anything besides a polite exit.

If she doesn't pass the boner test, see above.

I've dealt with girls who are low energy yet I've banged the same night. Like I said before, mirror their energy, slow and low voice, go to a quieter more intimate venue. Drop that bait about some cool things you have at your pad or some netflix movie/show. GAUGE her, see how she reacts, physically and emotionally.

Went for drinks with a skinny HB7 and wasn't feeling the vibe/chemistry etc. maybe b/c english isn't her first language.

After saying goodbye have already forgotten her and feel indifferent as to seeing her again.

Is this ok? Should I have kept pushing and trying to convert? Is this abundance mentality or too aloof?

Post: #5372

(05-12-2015 03:43 PM)smallpimpin Wrote:  

Quote:Your date was sick, if she told me before the date that she was, I'd of immediately cancelled her, and gone with a Plan B.

Last thing I want to do is hangout with a girl who isn't giving me 100%.

Some girls are just super quiet, shy, and reserved. Mirror their energy and probe to see if she's interested, drop bait of heading back to your pad, and escalate.

If she's boring you, cut your losses and leave asap, you don't owe her anything besides a polite exit.

If she doesn't pass the boner test, see above.

I've dealt with girls who are low energy yet I've banged the same night. Like I said before, mirror their energy, slow and low voice, go to a quieter more intimate venue. Drop that bait about some cool things you have at your pad or some netflix movie/show. GAUGE her, see how she reacts, physically and emotionally.

Went for drinks with a skinny HB7 and wasn't feeling the vibe/chemistry etc. maybe b/c english isn't her first language.

After saying goodbye have already forgotten her and feel indifferent as to seeing her again.

Is this ok? Should I have kept pushing and trying to convert? Is this abundance mentality or too aloof?

Always trust your boner.

Always trust your gut, BUT, that being said, do you really think it was the language barrier that turned you off ?

Some dates just don't work out and some you don't care for.

Be honest with yourself, what did you really think ? Was she just not that attractive ? I don't think a language barrier should turn someone off.

This is where body language and touching can be of great use, hell even a pen and a pad and sitting close together and writing eachother things.

We just witnessed a DEAF game data sheet dropped about these kinds of things, we Atlantic talking about banging girls he can barely speak too in a different country also.

Post: #5373

Both Clean Slate and Linux are showing how so many of the game barriers that we all have are primarily mental.

Both inspiring in different ways.

WIA

Post: #5374

Since this is the lounge:

There was once a family that owned and worked a small eatery walking distance from me that I would eat at fairly regularly.

There was a daughter who was pretty and nice, albeit somewhat shy. I thought about making a move but didn't. I ended up dating my current gf instead which was and is going very well.

The business sold and I never saw the daughter again. I wondered if I could've dated her, if she'd been interested. She was only just legal age of consent when I first knew her.

I saw her at a restaurant recently but she was with some young guy who just stared at me as we chatted briefly, but they were on their way out and I didn't really need to keep in contact. She looked good, even better than before. I thought not much of it until I saw her again just this week at karaoke. She was there with the same guy and mixed friend group. What a funny coincidence I thought.

I was with some friends and have no intention of pursuing her since I've got the same gf and things are well. However, I still wondered if she was attracted to me. She recognized me and she sort of waved, but I could tell her guy was possessive/insecure so I didn't approach. Soon she sang a song and had a very good voice and did a little dance on stage while her insecure boyfriend filmed it...probably to upload to the twitterverse or some stupid bs.

Later on as I returned from the bathroom and was feeling the urge to leave I walked by and asked her if she knew this duet I'm fond of. Her eyes sparkled as she said yes, but when I asked her to sing she looked to her friend to see if she would join her. The time came to sing the song and I looked at her and her friend as they came up on stage. She handed the mic to her friend then her boyfriend came over to the side of the stage and started arguing with her.

I sang unphased and the other girl sang the female part, but in a pause I grabbed the DJ and told him to put another mic in her hands and tell her to sing. He did and she did. We sang the rest of the song while her boyfriend tried to get her attention/grab her and argue with her. Inside I laughed. The crowd cheered as we finished (it's a damn good duet song) and she stepped over to me and smiled huge and gave me a quick tight hug before returning to her friends.

I walked out with a friend, done for the night but got sidetracked talking to an employee outside. At one point I turned and realized that the girl and her boyfriend had exited the place and were headed down the street, stopping every ten feet or so so they could argue.

Too much drama for me, but that was a damn funny moment and I answered my question. My friends were very entertained that the bf got so pissed off at her talking/singing with me. It was so obvious. Be worried dude. Be worried.

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Quote:Always trust your boner.

Always trust your gut, BUT, that being said, do you really think it was the language barrier that turned you off ?

Some dates just don't work out and some you don't care for.

Be honest with yourself, what did you really think ? Was she just not that attractive ? I don't think a language barrier should turn someone off.

This is where body language and touching can be of great use, hell even a pen and a pad and sitting close together and writing eachother things.

We just witnessed a DEAF game data sheet dropped about these kinds of things, we Atlantic talking about banging girls he can barely speak too in a different country also.

No boner. Objectively cute/pretty face on a skinny body (no curves) but the package just didn't do doing anything for me. I didn't have that killer instinct.

A little language barrier + annoying accent (think Singapore/English) was throwing me off a little. Am I being too "pointy elbows" about this?

For me the combination of the above contributed to the meh vibe = didn't feel motivated to continue.

Re: Clean Slate/Atlantic - I assume these guys were attracted to the girls they met = motivated to make the effort.