(05-16-2014 04:19 PM)edtf Wrote:  Asked a girl in my dorm out for drinks. Bounced to the bar street near campus, and went into a live music venue. Expensive as shit, and I ask if she's down for buying booze at 7-11 and drinking it in the park nearby. She says she was thinking the exact she thing and we get some wine. Start off with intellectual conversation, and she can hold her own talking about economics and philosophy and music. She gets the next bottle, and our convo turns sexual. Then some old shirtless hobo comes up to us and asks us to pour him some wine. We ignore him, and he persists for about 10 minutes, repeating his request for our wine. He eventually leaves, and we eventually finish our bottle. I ask if she wants to bounce back and hang out for a while, and she says yes. We are holding hands, and suddenly she realizes her wallet is missing. We retrace our steps and can't find it. FUCK, turns out wine hobo mother fucker jacked it while we weren't looking. Cockblocking old ass, fat ass, stealing old fucker. We make out on the street, and then we go back. She says she needs to go cancel her cards. I ask if she wants to hang out for 20 minutes, and she says, "Oh, I'm going to need much more than 20 minutes, I want to enjoy this fully, so next time."

Damn it. Fucking hobo cockblocker.

Side note:
She told me she liked the ballsiness I had to ask her out for drinks, and then the ballsiness I had to initiate the make out with her. Thank you RooshV community for the enlightenment, if it weren't for you guys, I would have still been beta as fuck and probably sat and talked for like 6 hours and done nothing.

Well done. You have to be careful with the homeless, but generally I would've either changed locations (even moving to a different area away from him), or given him the stare down and told him to go away.

Ten minutes is easily 9 and a half minutes too long to be around one of them with a date, especially a first date.

Fucking rain in NYC. I made plans to meet with a chick soon. Let's see if she flakes because of this damn shitty weather.

A date that was suppose to invite me back to her place in Bay Ridge flaked because she's "sick." in which I responded with "I know a lot of people that would get sick before meetup and usually talk on the phone will make them feel better."

Didn't work either, damn

I meet up with this girl who looks ... let's just say her photos looked hotter than she did in person.. she had extra weight.

But, I was like, fuck it, I'll have a drink with her because I need to get out of the house.

She's nervous I can tell because I'm more attractive than she is. I know this, because I've been on her side of the interaction before.

So, she starts rambling on about her life to fill the silence.

When she starts talking about some public art thing in NYC where artists made some kind of painted eggs, my mind is wandering and I'm thinking about the Godzilla movie I saw because there are these radioactive egg things in it.

I can't even focus on what she's saying. I can't tell if it was her conversation that zapped me or the two beers, but I excused myself and told her I was fading. Didn't want to be a dick about it, because I can always use her to invite her to a show I'm playing or something.

Met up with a Tinder girl today. Watched a movie at her place, made out, escalated to clothes-off. Things started heating up. She then said she didn't want to move that fast. After waiting for a few minutes, I went back at it. She wasn't feeling it and resorted to laying on me and rubbing my chest (a more romantic gesture). She didn't even reach for my dick. Proud of myself for setting up this opportunity/making this logistically work out. Disappointed in myself for my failure to get farther. Five months ago, this would have been a big success. Now, after joining the forum, I know I could have done better; I have recognized that a necessary aspect of game is self-assessment. Considering going at this again in the near future.

Talking with a girl on okc, and she wants it then and she replied with the goal keeper mentality of if we have sex you'll leave the next day and take my dignity with you blabla

how do i challenge this frame/shit test.

(05-17-2014 11:00 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  Talking with a girl on okc, and she wants it then and she replied with the goal keeper mentality of if we have sex you'll leave the next day and take my dignity with you blabla

how do i challenge this frame/shit test.

tell her not before you make me breakfast

that's a good line, but i still feel like it doesn't challenge the frame of the goal keeper mentality some women seem to have. it would be wise to learn to challenge this for future references and that's what i'm looking for.

i basically want my frame to say don't pretend like you're not enjoying this

it's generally silly for women to think of sex as something they give/i take/they protect because they are enjoying it just as much as me.

(05-17-2014 11:00 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  Talking with a girl on okc, and she wants it then and she replied with the goal keeper mentality of if we have sex you'll leave the next day and take my dignity with you blabla

how do i challenge this frame/shit test.

She's telling you she wants to fuck you. Finding a way to weave words together with the purpose of APPEASING her would be falling into her frame. That's why I would personally avoid the shit test and go straight to finding out when she's free.

-R

SNL yesterday from an online chick. 2.5 hrs from meet to close. I corrected a lot of mistakes I made previously, majorly, controlling my drinking and re-calibrating my game every few mins and also going direct sometimes. E.g. I she was tall and I told her how her height and heels turn me on so much; stared at her and said I feel like making out with you right now but feel awkward in this public place. Also got a lot of LMR while back at my place, she had to go to a party and kept telling me that. I kept saying I know, but kept on ploughing through it, turning her on more the more she bought this up.

This woman keeps shit testing me

Anyway got a good reply to "why should I take a chance on you?"

(05-18-2014 05:09 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  This woman keeps shit testing me

Anyway got a good reply to "why should I take a chance on you?"

Seriously answering this would pull you into her frame. So IMO you have two options:

1. Completely ignore and move on.
"Good story, so XYZ bar on Tues night?"
2. Make a joke, say something funny + condescending...
"You're supposed to be proving your worth to me, and I have to say, I'm not yet impressed."

(05-18-2014 05:09 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  This woman keeps shit testing me

Anyway got a good reply to "why should I take a chance on you?"

"You shouldn't ;-)"

This girl I've been texting with for months but who has flaked constantly to the point where I deleted her number and accidentally re-texted her finally texted me yesterday that she wants to come to my house today.

Let's see how this goes..

(05-19-2014 08:00 AM)soup Wrote:  This girl I've been texting with for months but who has flaked constantly to the point where I deleted her number and accidentally re-texted her finally texted me yesterday that she wants to come to my house today.

Let's see how this goes..

I bet she just got broke up with. I love it when that happens

She claimed it was because she was donbusy with school.

The recent Finals week seemed to coincide with longest dry spell I've had in a while.

So many numbers this week... so little time.

(05-20-2014 05:04 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  So many numbers this week... so little time.

Yeah brother, I know what you mean.

Hit up SA for the first time properly on Thursday last week.

Currently have 8 girls I'm texting from it. Greatest website ever for a lazy bastard like me!

Anyway, first chick met on Saturday; she left this morning.

Got 3 daytime dates and 2 evenings with 5 different ones planned for this week/weekend. I'm just hoping they don't all come off really; not sure I can reaistically fit them all in!

I'm actually exhausted but feel better than I have in a while generaly.

Soup how the fuck do you keep in touch with women you've never even met for months?

Seems impossible since you know NOTHING about them?

Going to do another documentation of a night out. Doing it the last time pushed me just a little bit harder so it’s a good influence.

Started prep an hour ago:

-juiced carrot, beet, ginger, apple, cayenne pepper. 20 ounces

-brewed up a cup of espresso in my bialetti coffee maker to sip while I watched

-an episode of Eastbound and Down

-during the episode, the juice coffee mixture went to work and I had a good purge in the bathroom

-worked out with dumbbells until failure

-trimmed up the beard

-showered

-poured two fingers of whiskey and listened to

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-while typing this out and getting in the right mindset

-going to head out to a place that has a chill bartender and perfect lamb terrine

Im ready: Tuesday, 815pm.

just had a regular flake on me. wtf.

Sat down at the bar to eat. Two girls were sitting next to me. I banged one two years ago and never called her back. Didn't recognize her til I sat down and got comfortable. She not once made eye contact with me. When she got up to go to the bathroom I started talking to her friend. She came back and still didn't acknowledge me. I hate to say this but being so close to them and hearing every word of their banal conversation ruined my meal. I remember spreading her asscheeks real wide whole she rode reverse cowgirl. And they didn't have terrine tonight. I don't care, will head out in a minute to another spot.

(05-20-2014 08:08 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Sat down at the bar to eat. Two girls were sitting next to me. I banged one two years ago and never called her back. Didn't recognize her til I sat down and got comfortable. She not once made eye contact with me. When she got up to go to the bathroom I started talking to her friend. She came back and still didn't acknowledge me. I hate to say this but being so close to them and hearing every word of their banal conversation ruined my meal. I remember spreading her asscheeks real wide whole she rode reverse cowgirl. And they didn't have terrine tonight. I don't care, will head out in a minute to another spot.

if you wanted to piss her off you shouldve said something like

"you look familiar, did we goto school together or something?"

(05-20-2014 08:08 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Sat down at the bar to eat. Two girls were sitting next to me. I banged one two years ago and never called her back. Didn't recognize her til I sat down and got comfortable. She not once made eye contact with me. When she got up to go to the bathroom I started talking to her friend. She came back and still didn't acknowledge me. I hate to say this but being so close to them and hearing every word of their banal conversation ruined my meal. I remember spreading her asscheeks real wide whole she rode reverse cowgirl. And they didn't have terrine tonight. I don't care, will head out in a minute to another spot.

Are tearin it up in Bushwhack tonight?

(05-20-2014 06:11 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  Soup how the fuck do you keep in touch with women you've never even met for months?

Seems impossible since you know NOTHING about them?

That's they say too.

Some of the get really freaked because I've been mass texting them for months on end without getting a response.

And then they freak out one day and are like "I haven't responded to your texts for like two months"



I don't really care, because once in a while, one of those 210 chicks who didn't reply for months does get back to me, and I've banged from that.