(05-14-2014 10:58 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  FUCK just got back from a Tinder date and the fucking bitch told me she didn't bring any goddamn money and I ended up paying $65 for both of us. DAMN that fucking bitch Should have just paid for mine and left her dumb ass on the spot.

couldn't even escalate to kiss and she was all like "you're coming on too strong"

how do you guys even deal with this shit ARGH

first place is always a cheap date.

if she doesn't bring any money, I would make fun of her for being poor and buy her a drink.

After the first drink I would do something that doesn't require money. Go for a walk and window shop or something.

Then bounce to my place for another drink. If she won't come to my place and doesn't have any other ideas to do, I would end the date.

Whether or not I would set up a day 2 would be based on the vibe I got her. If it seemed like she forgot her cash on purpose, I would delete the phone number. If it was an honest mistake and we got along good, I would continue.

(05-14-2014 10:58 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  FUCK just got back from a Tinder date and the fucking bitch told me she didn't bring any goddamn money and I ended up paying $65 for both of us.

Before you get angry:
- did you suggest the (expensive) date?
- did you choose the (expensive) venue?

Just saying, but for 65$ it seems you might have picked the wrong first date anyways.

Not sure if failed or not.

Was on a date yesterday with a OKC girl, and it went well till the end.
The date itself was fun, she playfully said "you're' the worst" and she initiated touch several times. SNL wasn't possible due to bad logistics - she lives in another town.
After she told me about a pub she loves I've tried (and succeeded) to secure the next date during this one, as we agree to meet next week. which got me thinking, was this a good idea? see: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-36112.html

Anyway, as we went outside I've asked her to text me as she gets home. Her subway stop is on the to my place so we walked few minutes together and parted ways.
I went to the kiss and nothing. She moved her head to make it a hug.
She texed me that she had a great evening and that she's home.

I'm rather confused. The date was almost text book, but I could not kiss close.
What went wrong?

My next move: we agreed to meet next Friday, so I guess I'll ping her next Sunday with something along the lines of "just saw a [insert something funny here]". And on Wednesday I'll text her to arrange the hour of the date and such.
Will it be wise? or will it be better to skip the ping and go straight to the text on Wednesday?

@Rootless She may be worth one more roll of the dice, but if you're not at least getting some tongue action on the next date, then personally I would next her.
It's possible she may have boxed you in her mind as a 'Beta Provider' which means you might get some (possibly tame) action down the line, or she might have you pencilled in as someone she'll become friends with, either option is not great, if it's the latter, definitely get your ass outta there asap, unless you can possibly leverage her in some way(has she hot friends she could introduce you to for instance?).
Your 'Text me when you get home' line, is fine for actual relationships, not so great for chicks you've just met, as this consolidates you in her mind as an unsexy provider type.
Also, don't wait til the end before escalating, always be escalating in some shape or form. And don't be afraid to go for the kiss during the date, if things are going well, and she's responded well to your kino during the date.
In my experience, any online date I went on, where there wasn't some action at some point during, or at the end of the date, it never ended well.
Sometimes I was just strung along for a while by the girl, with the promise of something happening, but it never did, the reality was I was friendzoned from the off. Was just too stubborn and proud to admit it to myself.
Don't be that guy. Best to move on to girls that are genuinely interested, than chicks who tease you that something might happen, then turn the cheek.

Any time I go in for a kiss now, I always gently grab the girl by the chin or side of the face so that there's no mistaking that I'm about to kiss her. This makes it so that the girl has to reject it more openly, making it more awkward. Most girls don't like awkward and will usually go along with the kiss if even just a peck on the lips.

First date since i got dumped on monday lined up for saturday. In the mean time... gonna hit the clubs hard tomorrow.

(05-15-2014 08:57 AM)The Great Basilisk Wrote:  First date since i got dumped on monday lined up for saturday. In the mean time... gonna hit the clubs hard tomorrow.

Shit yeah. She did you a favor by dumping you.

Time to hit the skins again.

(05-14-2014 11:50 PM)unbowed Wrote:  Next time you have a first meetup, go to a cheap spot so you don't bleed cash. Don't try to wow her, that's her job. Just focus on getting her horny.

And $65? I hope you didn't go to one of those mixology places with a dozen different syrup mixes...

Lesson learned, an expensive one too...And yes it was one of those places in LES haha.

(05-15-2014 06:55 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  first place is always a cheap date.

Whether or not I would set up a day 2 would be based on the vibe I got her. If it seemed like she forgot her cash on purpose, I would delete the phone number. If it was an honest mistake and we got along good, I would continue.

Yes, that was a poor planning on my part. Won't contact her again unless she does all the work for second date.

(05-15-2014 06:58 AM)casio Wrote:  Before you get angry:
- did you suggest the (expensive) date?
- did you choose the (expensive) venue?

Just saying, but for 65$ it seems you might have picked the wrong first date anyways.

Yes and yes. I've brought my other dates to this place before too, all of them offered to split. First time meeting someone like her.

I'm currently in a serious drought from new pussy. I'm talking mirages, deserts, scorpions, and bones. I will not fuck a 5/6 to get the momentum rolling again either.

So tonight I plan on documenting my night out in real time.

Going to roll out solo...I have to work tomorrow so will only be out until 1230/100am or so.

To start: -had my favorite regular come over at 7pm for an intense sex session...I like going out after some wild sex because girls can sense the pheromones raging, I have an even larger not-give-a-fuck attitude, and my face looks better when its a bit flushed

-50 pushups, curls with 35 lb dumbbells until failure, overhead shoulder presses til failure, some breathing exercises...my blood is flowing nicely

-read a section of Sex 3.0 by JJ Roberts to refresh myself on some sex theory--shit is gold when it comes to getting women horny

-had two beers and a shot of whiskey to warm up

-listened to this song...twice to get in the mood



-polished my allen edmonds dalton boots and showered

-started to write on this thread--i'm ready

-first stop is a place that serves great burgers, ima get one rare as can be and game some females

While I was walking to the restaraunt, my clacking boots scared a rat who was rummaging through some trash bags. The rat ran and crashed into my leg and ran over my feet. I yelled 'fucking, motherfucker, shit, Jesus!' And girls within earshot laughed. I will use this anecdote later on tonight. 930pm

One of the waitresses here is a self proclaimed leabian. She is 22 and hot. I have told her befit that it's just a phase and she will grow out of it. Just now I said ' I like seeing you because you have a great attitude, it shows through your face'. She melted slightly. One day soon she will wisen up to the rod.

Walked up to two girls. Asked what they were up to. Chatted for a minute. Two boys at the bar were in the midst of buying them shots. Lost them to the boys. Whatever.

Tinder date. Owned her for first half. Ran out of words during second. Make out but no escalation. Need to slow myself down so can calibrate properly. Hate to lose opportunities like this.

Walked up to a set of three and asked to join. I did for a bit and asked their dating habits. They were lame and I ejected. Then approached a very pretty girl at the wimdow. She is a commercial model. Waiting for her tinder date. I got her number and said I would spy on her timed date when he showed up. I gave him my seat, posted at the bar and started chatting up another chick.

Staring at a girl at the bar who was with her boyfriend. She came right up to me and asked why I was staring. I said I thought she had a pretty face. She invited me out for a cigarette.

good god. girl just called the bouncer on me because i was hitting on their freind. he knows me...we chatted...determined the girl was a crazy bitch. allowed to stay in the bar. but fuck, what bullshit.

i have the number from a model chick but unsuccessful otherwise

(05-15-2014 11:47 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  good god. girl just called the bouncer on me because i was hitting on their freind. he knows me...we chatted...determined the girl was a crazy bitch. allowed to stay in the bar. but fuck, what bullshit.

i have the number from a model chick but unsuccessful otherwise

Which bar?

I've gotten so many regular girls from online dating that it's hampering my willingness to approach new girls. I have literally a different girl to fuck for every day of the week. I need a course in harem management.

(05-16-2014 01:28 AM)soup Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 11:47 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  good god. girl just called the bouncer on me because i was hitting on their freind. he knows me...we chatted...determined the girl was a crazy bitch. allowed to stay in the bar. but fuck, what bullshit.

i have the number from a model chick but unsuccessful otherwise

Which bar?

3 diamond door

Do they have a Dj and little dance area or is it just drinks and cliques?

New to the forum, but I'm moving to Mississippi for a summer internship today. Getting the mind right to make tons of approaches when I get there. Plan on finding some local talent with better sleeping accommodations than my air mattress.

No dance area, but the place is a lot more social than your average bear.

Mentally revisited yesterday's date. I guess the problem is when I am not really in a mood it half moody, I lose my frame easily or can't calibrate myself during. Need to get better at pumping my mood at will.

Asked a girl in my dorm out for drinks. Bounced to the bar street near campus, and went into a live music venue. Expensive as shit, and I ask if she's down for buying booze at 7-11 and drinking it in the park nearby. She says she was thinking the exact she thing and we get some wine. Start off with intellectual conversation, and she can hold her own talking about economics and philosophy and music. She gets the next bottle, and our convo turns sexual. Then some old shirtless hobo comes up to us and asks us to pour him some wine. We ignore him, and he persists for about 10 minutes, repeating his request for our wine. He eventually leaves, and we eventually finish our bottle. I ask if she wants to bounce back and hang out for a while, and she says yes. We are holding hands, and suddenly she realizes her wallet is missing. We retrace our steps and can't find it. FUCK, turns out wine hobo mother fucker jacked it while we weren't looking. Cockblocking old ass, fat ass, stealing old fucker. We make out on the street, and then we go back. She says she needs to go cancel her cards. I ask if she wants to hang out for 20 minutes, and she says, "Oh, I'm going to need much more than 20 minutes, I want to enjoy this fully, so next time."

Damn it. Fucking hobo cockblocker.

Side note:
She told me she liked the ballsiness I had to ask her out for drinks, and then the ballsiness I had to initiate the make out with her. Thank you RooshV community for the enlightenment, if it weren't for you guys, I would have still been beta as fuck and probably sat and talked for like 6 hours and done nothing.