Probably soup. I'll work on it.

The girl who i approached irl who also saw me on okc keeps visiting my profile, I'm not visiting back.

The girl has a banging body so hopefully this works out and she becomes a fwb but i have a feeling my profile may have severely cockblocked me.

Was at a nightclub last night and place was crowded as shit. Tried to buy a drink and there was some chick that i tried to cutoff at the bar and obviously she was pissed at me. Anyways in Finland all chicks LOVELOVELOVE hockey players so i dropped her this nuclear line "Even my team's fourth line forward wouldn't want to fuck you". She went all wide eyed and started asking me "Are you a hockey player?!" "where do you play?!" and i told her to fuck off. Suddenly she is apologizing to me and letting me buy my drinks before her. Bitches be fucking crazy

(05-28-2014 12:52 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  How witty/funny are most of you guys?

I'm beginning to think it may be better to incorporate less high energy c&f humor into my game.

instead going for a more dark mysterious low energy "alpha" sort of frame.

Depends on the setting. The chill, mysterious low energy alpha does not fly in a high energy club (night game). It works wonders during the day though.

So I was on a hot streak during the day, getting numbers left and and right, approaching girls, getting dates. The night rolls in, I smoke a bowl with a couple of friends and check out this nightclub by my university. My game goes from untouchable to shit as the night rolls in. I've never been so rejected in my life. After I discovered that my approach was weak and my frame was out of whack, I changed it a little bit. Now, I'm talking to a couple of girls and I'm truly incorporating the "game is just trolling women" which I amped up. Let's just say the results speak for themselves as a group of girls start to gather around me, and I pick one to make out and do other shananigans (no bang though)

-If it's a small bar, pick a location with a lot of traffic and make it your domain. No walking around in small venues.
- Create a base of operations, a group that you can go back to after you're done approaching
- Troll the shit out of women in nightclubs is the only thing that works. Fuck the polite conversation.
- Escalate hard once they give you green light. Command them, this is the place to be dominant and primal. CEO mentality.

(05-29-2014 11:33 AM)simondice Wrote:  So I was on a hot streak during the day, getting numbers left and and right, approaching girls, getting dates. The night rolls in, I smoke a bowl with a couple of friends and check out this nightclub by my university. My game goes from untouchable to shit as the night rolls in. I've never been so rejected in my life. After I discovered that my approach was weak and my frame was out of whack, I changed it a little bit. Now, I'm talking to a couple of girls and I'm truly incorporating the "game is just trolling women" which I amped up. Let's just say the results speak for themselves as a group of girls start to gather around me, and I pick one to make out and do other shananigans (no bang though)

-If it's a small bar, pick a location with a lot of traffic and make it your domain. No walking around in small venues.
- Create a base of operations, a group that you can go back to after you're done approaching
- Troll the shit out of women in nightclubs is the only thing that works. Fuck the polite conversation, one of the girl I opened began:
- Escalate hard once they give you green light. Command them, this is the place to be dominant and primal. CEO mentality.

Could your slump have been due to the bud?

That shit makes me the most boring loser on the planet ya see.

(05-29-2014 11:35 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Could your slump have been due to the bud?

That shit makes me the most boring loser on the planet ya see.

I think so too. I don't like gaming when I smoke or when I drink a lot (passed the point of buzzed), it really confuses my instincts. To be honest, I don't know how some players game when really drunk or after smoking.

If you really want to troll women, look stupid but act smart, or visa versa.

Contrast is king.

Dress like money but have a street smart attitude.

Look like you are from the street but display a lot of intelligence and knowledge about "high" culture.

Someone who is cool is hard to pin down and file away on the mental Rolodex. They are captivating, and their personality will draw you in like a good book or movie. That's what being cool is about.

Be that movie.

Defy expectations. Get them hooked.

man it's really exhausting being "that guy" to these women. they get hooked and don't want to let go.

it's vexing because it's like you're always trying to out do YOURSELF. battling my ultra cool twin or something.

they're always so elated to spend time with me. such happy pups they are. meanwhile, I'm just thinking "meh, I haven't came in 2 days. this will be good"

even then, I still don't really want to give them the good dick... I've actually fucked my regulars and on the verge of cumming and at the last minute decide that I didn't want to waste a nut on them.

need new pussy.

p.s. fucked a new bitch (Mexican) last weekend at the drive-in movies (2nd date). Tuesday the bitch is acting like she just came from bible school. saying "I don't want that to be the only thing this is about"..... GOT FUCKIN DAMMIT MAN, I fuckin swear.... every skank says that dimwitted line.. are you kidding me right now?... anyway, no pussy was had on Tuesday.. She's been put on punishment for bad behavior

(05-29-2014 01:11 PM)soup Wrote:  If you really want to troll women, look stupid but act smart, or visa versa.

Contrast is king.

Dress like money but have a street smart attitude.

Look like you are from the street but display a lot of intelligence and knowledge about "high" culture.

Someone who is cool is hard to pin down and file away on the mental Rolodex. They are captivating, and their personality will draw you in like a good book or movie. That's what being cool is about.

Be that movie.

Defy expectations. Get them hooked.

Speaking some truth here. There is a guy in my neighborhood I wing with every now and then. He was born and bred in bedstuy, black as can be, and dresses hood.

He also is a professional photographer and he KILLS it with model/wanna be model girls.

The first few times I saw him in action my mouth dropped open. Unbelievable.

And here I am, dressing all nice, working out, juicing, remembering witty anecdotes, etc...lets just say I learned some lessons from him.

Dressing well accompanied by a not-give-a-fuck attitude picked up my game a notch.

Going out solo tonight.

Anyone want to throw out any openers for me to test?

Lately...if its two or more girls together, I just stand real close, don't say anything and smile until they start talking to me.

If it's one girl, I stroll up next to her and just say 'hi'.

These have been working pretty well but I want to have a little fun tonight.

Suggestions?

(05-29-2014 01:11 PM)soup Wrote:  If you really want to troll women, look stupid but act smart, or visa versa.

Contrast is king.

Dress like money but have a street smart attitude.

Look like you are from the street but display a lot of intelligence and knowledge about "high" culture.

Someone who is cool is hard to pin down and file away on the mental Rolodex. They are captivating, and their personality will draw you in like a good book or movie. That's what being cool is about.

Be that movie.

Defy expectations. Get them hooked.

This is a big part of my game. Girls are usually blown away when they realize that I am a lot smarter than I look.

I think a big part of this has to do with how women stereotype you initially. I've always gotten stereotyped as a huge jock, and women expect that I'm not at all smart.

(05-29-2014 07:46 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Going out solo tonight.

Anyone want to throw out any openers for me to test?

Lately...if its two or more girls together, I just stand real close, don't say anything and smile until they start talking to me.

If it's one girl, I stroll up next to her and just say 'hi'.

These have been working pretty well but I want to have a little fun tonight.

Suggestions?

My favorite - " are you from LA?" usually they'll say no but it's a dope opener because they'll usually say " no why" then you can segway into "you just look like a LA chick thats all" from there they'll be like "what does an LA chick look like" then its game on from there

(05-29-2014 01:11 PM)soup Wrote:  If you really want to troll women, look stupid but act smart, or visa versa.

Contrast is king.

Dress like money but have a street smart attitude.

Look like you are from the street but display a lot of intelligence and knowledge about "high" culture.

Someone who is cool is hard to pin down and file away on the mental Rolodex. They are captivating, and their personality will draw you in like a good book or movie. That's what being cool is about.

Be that movie.

Defy expectations. Get them hooked.

+1 from me.

I act "high culture" around average or blue-collar bishes and "street smart" around rich bishes. Always get compliments on "how well rounded you are".

Just used the 'are you from la' line. Got huge laughs and a funny conversation

If you dress better than them, and talk smarter than them, you will definitely hit a hook point. And I don't mean you have to sound like a PhD, but if she's a 5 mentally, you be the 7. If she's a 7, you be the 8.

What's the "are you from la" line ?

I just jokingly told some guy that I'm going to steal his girl.

Jokingly.

Sort of.

Last night's bang got me off a month+ dry spell (been staying with family mostly the past two months, terrible logistics, only a few days or weeks in each town, etc).

I noticed that just a couple days of being 'back in the game' in a club setting felt pretty good. Last night I was with a group but basically split off from them after awhile and just approached selectively. Probably spoke with 7-8 girls before I found the right one. Nothing too spectacular but it's amazing how little things come back to you and you can identify time wasters. Was trying to really scout out each particular girl and read the situation as best I could and most of the time I was right. I'm still rusty but improved as the night went on.

The amount of cockblocking done by the girl I ended up with was almost unbelievable and included not one but two calls literally mid-bang. America is kinda weird like that - in Russia girls will actually sometimes go out of their way to direct you to their single friends in night game.

Oh yeah, just having sex def. made me feel healthier today. Wasn't hungover as hell despite drinking a ton and being up til 5am+ with only 4-5 hours of sleep.

Hit the bar at 1:30 because this girl in my social circle supposedly is really into me. Too bad she has no personality. She is mid-twenties, but couldn't get her to make eye contact. I noticed that she would look at me while I was looking away, but as soon as I turned to look at her she would look away, plus I had to labor over the actual conversation because she was boring.

Never again.

Hi guys I'd really like to get your opinion on this one. Last night I was texting this OKC girl I've been seeing and banging for the past month. Throughout the conversation she kept telling me things like I'm glad I met you and thank you etc. She also brought up how she couldn't get her ex out of her head before but I helped her to move on.

I fell asleep and this morning I woke up to this

"i hope you end our conversations with a proper way this time because when you just dont reply is really rude"
"anyway im glad i met you but i wanted to tell you i rather us not contact each other anymore just didnt have the chance"

Any way I can still keep her as my bang buddy and not close the door entirely?

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And I initiated the text this time. I always get text from girls post bang / date. We hung out last Sunday and neither of us text each other until last night...so I knew something was off

(05-30-2014 06:55 AM)wandenreich Wrote:  Hi guys I'd really like to get your opinion on this one. Last night I was texting this OKC girl I've been seeing and banging for the past month. Throughout the conversation she kept telling me things like I'm glad I met you and thank you etc. She also brought up how she couldn't get her ex out of her head before but I helped her to move on.

I fell asleep and this morning I woke up to this

"i hope you end our conversations with a proper way this time because when you just dont reply is really rude"
"anyway im glad i met you but i wanted to tell you i rather us not contact each other anymore just didnt have the chance"

Any way I can still keep her as my bang buddy and not close the door entirely?

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And I initiated the text this time. I always get text from girls post bang / date. We hung out last Sunday and neither of us text each other until last night...so I knew something was off

Are you sure she's not trying to play hard to get? Maybe she said that so you'd plead to her with all your heart that you need her in your life...which is ridiculous.

You can't fall into her frame. So either you guys are done banging or she'll run back to you.

To see if she's trolling you, I'd send an, "Enjoy your life " -- but maybe that's just me.

(05-30-2014 09:33 AM)Renberg Wrote:  Are you sure she's not trying to play hard to get? Maybe she said that so you'd plead to her with all your heart that you need her in your life...which is ridiculous.

You can't fall into her frame. So either you guys are done banging or she'll run back to you.

To see if she's trolling you, I'd send an, "Enjoy your life " -- but maybe that's just me.

Renberg,

thanks for the input. I posted the entire convo with screen caps in the Newbies forum as well http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-36592.html

crushed my first date last night as far as gaming goes (I didn't get the fuck, I walked in knowing it wasn't going to happen)

Backstory:
This girl is a HB 6.5 she's 31 (i'll take the .5 away) decent bod, career, whatevers
Im at an NHL game 7 game round 2 and my team loses, this girl messages me on FB tells me shes got tickets to the baseball game nearby
I run on over there, hangout, turns out she's with her bff, and guy friend then me being wasted go into autopilot checking out girls and commenting on people.
She and her bff drive me to the bar where I parked, as we're headed there, a girl calls me and I'm basically telling her to suck my dick, and standard asshol game stuff.
The girls's faces were shocked, horrified, "you're such a dick to her" i start laughing, "i've fucked her already" i go into how girls are and how girls hit the wall and start being prudes with crazy cat ladies. The girls go silent, the HB 6 speaks and says, "yeah your right, we do have a time limit" I go on and talk about how feminism is bullshit, how girls don't deserve respect because they act like ratchets and don't respect themselves. once gain they agree Finally i had my moment of red pill truth justified by females ! anyways head to the bar, play shuffle board head home.

Funny Note: The night after - I've got a sushi bar on lock and know the bartenders pretty well, i bring a diff girl to the bar. Guess whose there ? HB 6 with some other dude, i laugh at her and say "funny seeing you here" her date wasn't at all thrilled. She texts me the next day asks if thats my main girl, i laugh and say hell no.

The date: I do the standard, you me bar time. She puts up fast resistance "you take all your girls there"..."yeah so ? You're a girl im taking on a date right ? What makes you so different" (qualify"....HB well "i know feminism is bs, i know what drink you'll order, and I can sing the national anthem"....i say "yeah that's not that big a deal, i'll see you at 8:30"

I keep making her laugh, call her out on things (teasingly) find out she's scared of ghosts, has a handgun. Ended up showing her pics of me with my ass out at a punk rock bar in vegas last weekend, she loves my ass. I escalate the conversation sexually, talked about her grass getting cut, I'd cut her grass in only shorts for her, and she's serve me vodka lemonade in only an apron. She smirked said sounds like a plan. She did put up LMR saying she isn't that easy, I said who was talking about fucking, im not some piece of meat etc etc she laughed and said that's all im good for (i'm in) we end up walking by a lake and people watching and seeing this awkward couple.

I'm criticizing the dudes game and body language saying he needs to be forward. She says well you aren't either, I laugh and say i'll kiss you when i'm damn well ready to. A few mins later I smirk and say how's this for being forward, pull her hair and make out with her. We end the date a bit later. I call up my main girl to see how work was.

I've got numbers and dates lined up for next week.

Today is a good day !

(05-30-2014 09:43 AM)wandenreich Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:33 AM)Renberg Wrote:  Are you sure she's not trying to play hard to get? Maybe she said that so you'd plead to her with all your heart that you need her in your life...which is ridiculous.

You can't fall into her frame. So either you guys are done banging or she'll run back to you.

To see if she's trolling you, I'd send an, "Enjoy your life " -- but maybe that's just me.

Renberg,

thanks for the input. I posted the entire convo with screen caps in the Newbies forum as well http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-36592.html

Women are very good at the whole relationship Judo shit. Your response should always be not to fall into her frame but I'll be damned if it isn't fucking hard.

Fuck I realize they I'm getting either lazy, apathetic, or tired about going out to wrangle ass from the bars. I think it's because I have a long day ahead of me tomorrow, and need to get enough sleep.

I've got this thing about not going out unless I'm already out. I think it's because I've been doing so much online dating and I got banned from two of the local pulling spots.

That and I'm just not in the mood to listen to the crappy music that gets blasted at most bars and clubs in Brooklyn. It's Saturday night and I'm not in party mode right now.

Maybe I'm going to force my ass to get out of the house and go party.

That's it I'm going to do it.

It can't be all wushy washy. You have to want to go out with a mission in mind. I need to go out and just be soup tonight instead of game being tangential to whatever activity in doing. Those other activities can hold me back and dull my abilities.

I don't usually drink at home but I'm going to have some whiskey and then hit the bars. Wish me fuck-luck.

I would meet up with my wing but he likes to play it long and drawn out stretching into the morning. He relies mostly on dancefloor game and doesn't drink. He's tall and intimidating looking but cool so I think he feels like he needs to spend a lot of time letting shit "marinate" (building comfort).

I strike fast and hard which is good because I got shot to do tomorrow. I've been gaming with that guy for like three years or more and I still don't know exactly what he does for a living.

Anyway I'm running solo like a lone wolf tonight.

Had a rough week dealing with shit that I'm not used to dealing with and felt like I had to lay low. Did a lot nothing in the couple of days. Looks like I'm in the blue with all that crap so I'm going to treat myself to a night of game.