I've been in monk mode for the last few weeks after breaking things off with the ex, working on sorting out my finances and a few personal projects I've been neglecting.

In the last week I've had a few female work colleagues drop hints that we should hang out outside the workplace.



One is older and married (Polish 7) and the other has a boyfriend of 6 years (Irish 6) I've met both of their other halfs at a work convention and they are what you would expect.

Earlier today the token fat girl at the local cooking class I've been attending asked me in passing if I was single and what I do for fun outside of work. I saw the signs and made a quick exit.


Reactivated my Tinder and I'm going to try find something to keep me occupied this weekend.

(08-31-2016 09:51 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:30 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Had a girl show up at my house uninvited tonight when I was lying naked on a huge beanbag with another girl I just got done fucking...

Her and I heard my door bell ring a few times while we were laying there chatting but I honestly thought it was a neighbor coming to complain because we started fucking right in my front foye with the door open for the world to see... and it's a screen door. So I ignored it and after a few minutes they went away. Bout 20 min later I go check my phone and a girl asks if she can come over. Then the next message is "I'm outside"

I respond a while later with something dismissive like "what you were at my house? I had people over earlier" she responded with pissed off messages telling me to never message her again and that I'm a coward yadda yadda. She surely saw my clothes and this girl's clothes on the floor right in front of my door... And she maybe even heard us talking.

I tried a little damage control but I don't think it's happening. Deny till I die but whatever she shouldn't be fucking popping over my place uninvited. First world manwhore problems

(08-12-2016 11:16 AM)kaotic Wrote:  ...
Fuck it, next. She'll be texting you soon of course.
...

She texted me a couple days ago saying she was sorry for being mean she was "just really mad" and asked me how I've been

Girl has been texting me nonstop, texting sexy pictures, saying she misses me and wants to see me. I let her come over tonight. Things get steamy quick and next thing ya know we are up in my bedroom. I'm chowing down on her box. Get her off. She starts jerking me to get me hard. I pull out a condom and tell her I want her to suck on it.

Her: "Why?"
Me: "Because I like it"
Her: "But I don't know how"

This bullshit goes on for about 30 seconds back and forth then she says "You know why," obviously implying that because she knows I was with another chick she doesn't want to suck my dick. I tell her thats not fair and she needs to leave. I leave the room, throw the unwrapped condom away, go downstairs, and put my clothes back on.

She gets dressed and tries to hug and kiss me goodbye. I shut her off and say "No I'm annoyed with you right now you need to leave I'll talk to you later" and push her out the door.

Went on a second date with the biker girl, turns out we know a few of the same people, in a good way.

Small world. She wore some shorts this time, her legs are pretty toned, never realized that.

Shot some pool, bowled, grab a drink, then we head to my place and end up smashing again. She ended up sleeping over again, I didn't mind this time.

Can't make it a habit, overall she's really chill, so we'll see where this goes. She's already challenging me to bowl again since I destroyed her at that and pool.


Went on another date that was a dude, left early, got home early, getting ready for whatever tomorrow brings.

This weekend should be a blast.

(09-02-2016 01:16 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Went on another date that was a dude

(09-02-2016 01:44 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 01:16 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Went on another date that was a dud****e

Fuck you all, I was half asleep when I wrote that goddammit.

This thread gives me consistent joy

Haven't gamed often this summer.

Went out with my old wing that is a Paul Walker surfer look alike. His game is getting eye contact and getting close to girls where he is 99% sure they want to talk. He is good looking enough he can get away with this game. He is what we considered a natural. His ego is very fragile in the fact he will even warm up on girls that aren't bangable because he cannot risk getting rejected.

I wore one my linen Vietnam custom made blazer and silk pocket square, he felt too down dressed he usually goes for a skater look even though he is getting too old for that. I offered him my crushed black velvet blazer. He wore it, bitched about how it made him uncomfortable - like an excuse if he didn't didn't do well it was the blazer not him.

I used to take this friend more seriously then I took a break from him for 6+ months because of his ego. Now I almost slightly look down on him because my inner game has kept growing and my outer game. Before I felt I could learn from him and to prove myself because he as a natural had things more together than when I first met him 3 years ago. Now it's different. I am often reassuring him. Things about his ego that used to bother me or I would take seriously now I just laugh.

Out on the street at the beginning of the night we often have girls give us eyes or one of the friends of a girl points and say their friend thinks one of us or both are hot. I always want to stop the girls (they do this in passing at full speed to avoid rejection) and he always declines saying he isn't looking for it. His ego is just so fragile he can't risk a rejection or investing anything that isn't a sure thing.

The end results were that I saw a girl I thought was a Colombiana 7.5-8.0 give me the eyes while being hit on by some guys. Later I was on the dance floor near her and this group of girls pushes by. An young Asian 7.0 with curves gives me eyes and smile, reaches out her hand I say hi and ask her how good she is at dancing. She takes her hand and twirls her self to start grinding me. It is near the end of the night. For the song I just keep rhythm with the music and her hips. Song ends she turns gives me a quick kiss on the lips, like a goodbye kiss - I just grab the number.

Now Colombiana is 5 feet away dancing with other hot friend and they just saw this go down. I go up to her and say you must be from Colombia I was there all last November. She is a Brasiliera, I say I want to learn Portugese and go to Belo Horizonte. I ask her if she is from there - she's from Rio. She acts like she likes it a bit - but is a little shy and unsure. This is where my rusty game shows as I say cool have a great night and go to find my wing.

By this point he has only talked to a 6.0 with a little pudge stomach late 20s at the bar next to him to warm up. I grab him to go dance near the Brazilian chick and her friend. The Brazilian chick smiles at me that we are near. She dances very near me with her ass like an invitation and my friend nudges me at her I go to touch her hips and get close. She moves slowly away - doesn't seem bad though - like she is a tease or something.

If I wasn't rusty I would have rambled more with her at the first conversation, gotten the friend's info etc... and started dancing with them while talking. Even woulda tried to signal my friend over and have us hit the back bar.

Number one rusty signature for me in game is not pushing an opening the hook point.

So final score card my natural better looking wing talks to a 6.0. By the end of the night though he loved the blazer and said we weren't even pushing things to the highest level we could. Yeah - no shit Mr. Natural. He also would and still does make jokes about how he helped mold me and how I can just get his scraps. I used to take it personally. Now I just see it as a desperate ego protection and I see him more like a kid brother that is trying to act tough. It's like the words are just so ridiculous that he feels that I am nodding at him like a bored parent with a kid that won't shut up and he is toning it down fast because he can feel it makes him look like a idiot.

He is of course dating a 30 year old very low 6 with sagging skin already, and gets some girls on the side. His last girlfriend was prettier, younger, and more in shape still a bit of a butterface that ended up fucking one of his best friends shortly after they broke up.

I grind with a young Asian 7 number close, then immediately open what I see as the hottest girl in the club (objectively in the top 3), and probably could have gone much further if I wasn't rusty.

I've recently made friends with guys that have more style, more artistic, even better naturals that still respect Game principles 100% and have the results and social circle to show for it. So I used to look up to this guy and now in such a short time my views and demeanor have grown immensely by the people I surround my self with. It's to the point I want to give him a helping hand to push him up another level that my friends are at which has changed the friendship dynamic completely and we both feel it.

Anyways - thank you game.

It's like shoving your way through a crowded hallway full of paper tiger and sour egos until you get so far down the hallway there aren't many people left and the ones that are have such solid feelings about themselves they only want the best for everyone around them. It is a small crowd at the very end of that hallway, it is a great one though.

I am just getting glimpses into myself of things BlurredSevens and Distant Light would say which is a complete dissolving of the ego and being so in the present that you can just say "go out to have a good time" and that is actual great Game advice when you get to that level of zen and love for yourself. Others' views of you just don't matter because you have seen your results too many times when you just let go and trust yourself.

Real smooth. Currently living at my friends house for a week or two. Yesterday night my boys decided to go out so I drove them to the club and came back home. Was too tired to party as I'm back to working out & need some good rest. Today at 6am my phone rings, it's my friend who I live with. He tells me he's got 2 chicks that we met and gamed some weeks ago. I tell him to bring them over, whatever.

20 mins later they are at our house. I isolate my chick who I k-closed some days ago and we start to make out. I push for the bang but she is putting up LMR & a lot of it. I tried everything, ignoring her, escalating, hand on dick move, comforting her and so on. She just told me it's too quick for her and she likes me too much to put it out now. (really what the fuck?) After more than 2 hours of watching TV and trying to push for the bang I had enough of her bulshit. In the meantime I thought my boy was banging his chick but he had some issues too. At one point he walks in on us a bit pissed of, telling me his chick is on her period and they can't bang. At this point I realize that we are wasting time so I tell them to go back home and we kick them out.

An hour ago my chick is texting me telling me how sorry she is that she didn't give me her puss. I'm all cool tho, telling her whatever. Though the reality is different, my balls were about to explode when I was playing with her, in addition I'm doing nofap and I'm on day 31 today. Anyway nexting her now. She's 18 years old and it seems like she is looking for a relationship with me in addition, this chick has got so many red flags that it just ain't worth it.

Tuesday:

• Girl takes my hand in the house, while her boyfriend was out in the yard, talking to a guy
• Puts her hands on my breasts 3-4 times
• Tells me I am special and that she likes me very much
• I hide a bit, she searches for me. When she finds me, she tells me that she thought she lost me
• Makes lots of sexual innuendos
  

Today:

• Asks me if I'll drop by. I tell her "not yet"
• When I arrive she's completely cold and unresponsive. She only holds my hand a few brief times.
• When I leave, she says: "I am sorry" (all this time we were all alone)
  

PLEASE tell me this is a shit test.

Do any of you guys give out your social media pages to girls pre-date? My hottest online leads both keep insisting on getting my instagram or facebook page before we could meet. Just got off a phone call with one where I was joking if she wanted my social security number too and she told me to fuck off and hung up :/ I deleted my instagram last year and I rarely update my facebook so it probably looks shitty to girls scoping me out. I always counter-offer to facetime but most girls are lame and that's too "intense" for them. Any solution here? My date game is very strong but this social media hoop has been biting me in the ass.

(09-03-2016 03:25 PM)Balkan Wrote:  Do any of you guys give out your social media pages to girls pre-date?

I never do that. I want them to find out what they want by themselves, asking me.

(09-03-2016 02:57 PM)Zanardi Wrote:  Tuesday:

• Girl takes my hand in the house, while her boyfriend was out in the yard, talking to a guy
• Puts her hands on my breasts 3-4 times
• Tells me I am special and that she likes me very much
• I hide a bit, she searches for me. When she finds me, she tells me that she thought she lost me
• Makes lots of sexual innuendos
  

Today:

• Asks me if I'll drop by. I tell her "not yet"
• When I arrive she's completely cold and unresponsive. She only holds my hand a few brief times.
• When I leave, she says: "I am sorry" (all this time we were all alone)
  

PLEASE tell me this is a shit test.

Seems like there are two things going on here.

1.) Seems like she wants to cheat on her guy with you, but feels guilty about it.

2.) You aren't making her feel comfortable enough about it (assuming you want it to happen).

I don't condone this at all personally, but if you want to homewreck this dude's girl, then you can't expect her to do all of the work. You need to make moves. Signs seem somewhat clear.

(09-03-2016 03:30 PM)Zanardi Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 03:25 PM)Balkan Wrote:  Do any of you guys give out your social media pages to girls pre-date?

I never do that. I want them to find out what they want by themselves, asking me.

Hell no, I also ridicule them for asking me.

"Oh just trying to get to that 1000th follower ?"

"Need more followers ?"

"Nah I got tired of selfies, food, and basic bitch quotes" - I use this the most.

"Nah, not a big fan of social media"

"I send photos the old fashion way, through text"

I always tease the fuck out of them about it, eventually they might creep and try to find me, not many have.

Also typically I'll send them pics of shit I'm doing those few days we text.

Bunch of numbers today, one from a down seeming 3 set, 2/3 cute but could tell the chubby one would be a cockblock. Keeping my eye open for a pair of wings, was sitting by a fountain pool with long benches and a pair of Aussies sat nearby. Struck up a convo, seemed chill and a perfect SMV match for the other two, so after a few minutes explained the situation and asked if they wanted to wing. "Eh, he's married and I've got a missus..." Yea on the other side of the world! What the hell, can't even give the pussy away to some guys.

(09-03-2016 03:25 PM)Balkan Wrote:  Do any of you guys give out your social media pages to girls pre-date? My hottest online leads both keep insisting on getting my instagram or facebook page before we could meet. Just got off a phone call with one where I was joking if she wanted my social security number too and she told me to fuck off and hung up :/ I deleted my instagram last year and I rarely update my facebook so it probably looks shitty to girls scoping me out. I always counter-offer to facetime but most girls are lame and that's too "intense" for them. Any solution here? My date game is very strong but this social media hoop has been biting me in the ass.

If I had a banging Instagram/Facebook page I would. Not even my real life friends care about that banging Nassim Taleb article I posted a few weeks back. (THEY SHOULD..but they don't). And not about to put up pics of me and some random broad either.

Like we were saying in this thread, I think it was this thread... a great social media presence is becoming essential as girls put more trust in your artificial life than your actual one.

Think of your social media as the new front in "selling the dream". I started following "cool guys" on Instagram just to get a sense of what it is they post.

WIA

I would only give a girl my social media if I had social media worth showing off. If it adds to your value and/or mystique and makes you even more desirable then go ahead.

To tie into what WIA said, I actually began following the guys that are "winning" at Instagram like Nick Bateman and the like. If nothing more I did it as a case study to better understand the medium.

The recurring themes were, predictably,
-lots of lifestyle bs. Beach pics, exotic locations and pics on skyscrapers in NYC and the like

-Absolutely perfect professional quality photos in terms of filtering and editing. Way beyond what the normal IG filters are capable of.

-Lots of social proof photos with other IG "mini celebs" and other cool looking people.

-Photos of them doing important shit like photoshoots and marketing sponsored products.

In summary im not sure im willing to put so much time and effort into a crafted persona of myself like that, but these are the dudes girls seem to be obsessing over and blowing up on dm. They are the male equivalents of the dubai thots in terms of attraction and unsolicited DMs from hot women.

(09-03-2016 08:17 PM)HonantheBarbarian Wrote:  -Photos of them doing important shit like photoshoots and marketing sponsored products.

"Yeah, Porsche reached out to me about their new Carrera..."

*poses next to Porsche in lot before being chased out by security*

WIA

Thanks for the responses guys.

Nice deflecting lines kaotic. I usually use something similar to "I send photos the old fashioned way" and then bash on how guys are girls and take selfies every .3 seconds. It usually works. But there's been a theme with the hotter girls (both the ones I'm mentioning are low-tier "models" at FIDM) always on the day of the date, usually when you're working out logistics, out of the blue they ask for ig/fb page. You can tell they're contemplating flaking in this moment. I've teased the last 2 girls and haven't given it to them and it was a dealbreaker.

(09-03-2016 06:37 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Like we were saying in this thread, I think it was this thread... a great social media presence is becoming essential as girls put more trust in your artificial life than your actual one.

This hits me in the feels. Too much ugly truth.

(09-03-2016 08:17 PM)HonantheBarbarian Wrote:  To tie into what WIA said, I actually began following the guys that are "winning" at Instagram like Nick Bateman and the like. If nothing more I did it as a case study to better understand the medium.

The recurring themes were, predictably,
-lots of lifestyle bs. Beach pics, exotic locations and pics on skyscrapers in NYC and the like

-Absolutely perfect professional quality photos in terms of filtering and editing. Way beyond what the normal IG filters are capable of.

-Lots of social proof photos with other IG "mini celebs" and other cool looking people.

-Photos of them doing important shit like photoshoots and marketing sponsored products.

In summary im not sure im willing to put so much time and effort into a crafted persona of myself like that, but these are the dudes girls seem to be obsessing over and blowing up on dm. They are the male equivalents of the dubai thots in terms of attraction and unsolicited DMs from hot women.

I'd be more interested to see poppin IG pages that are non male models. I'm sure most of us here have to flash more of a lifestyle/fashion angle than an eye candy angle. Not to say you can't take certain ideas with Bateman's pics but I'd take them with a grain of salt since he's a male 9.5. This guy was mentioned in the IG thread, strong lifestyle game.

https://www.instagram.com/followtheraven/

WIA you just inadvertently stumbled onto something....

Right now with modern photo editing abilities and the anonymity of the internet, I wonder if one could completely fabricate a sick IG profile. Use guerrilla tactics WIA mentions, and even outright photoshop yourself into sick shots.

(09-03-2016 10:00 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  WIA you just inadvertently stumbled onto something....

Right now with modern photo editing abilities and the anonymity of the internet, I wonder if one could completely fabricate a sick IG profile. Use guerrilla tactics WIA mentions, and even outright photoshop yourself into sick shots.

My thoughts on it
- professional shots for your tinder/okcupid profile that we've talked about in previous threads, shout out to Blurred Sevens.
- link to your IG from your dating profile
- guerilla tactics for your IG pics
- Vinny/Ragnarok your IG profile with followers

Somewhere in there you can do some a/b split testing for your photos/opening messages as well as some photoshop as needed.

Then run the RVF formula of 1 drink at a neutral location, and then bounce back to the place you're renting while your other place gets "renovated".

You could create a whole back story with press releases and websites for Seeking Arrangement. And then leave just enough details in the background of your photos. Or set up a fake site at your fake investment bank so that they can reverse image search.

Maybe even throw some false flags on "Don't date him girl" or whatever site. "I just don't do anal, and then he stopped dating me..."

Basically appeal to their instincts and desires, and let them "discover" the bread crumbs you laid out.

Let them think they're playing you.

Rule #1 of the con - You can't cheat an honest man.

WIA

(09-03-2016 09:59 PM)Balkan Wrote:  I'd be more interested to see poppin IG pages that are non male models. I'm sure most of us here have to flash more of a lifestyle/fashion angle than an eye candy angle. Not to say you can't take certain ideas with Bateman's pics but I'd take them with a grain of salt since he's a male 9.5. This guy was mentioned in the IG thread, strong lifestyle game.

https://www.instagram.com/followtheraven/

I was looking through the "thots" that I follow in IG, and looking at the guys they follow - basically needs more research.

Like everything else in my game, I at least want an idea of what's in that bird's mind.

If you know what she wants, you can give to her. And she'll give you what you want. And most of the game is figuring out the "internal" feeling that she's after not the external thing that she thinks will bring it to her.

My game at least.

WIA

I'm curious where the "lifestyle" factors into the attraction, or rather how much it factors in. Men don't give a shit what a girl does. Some hot IG hoe taking pics of her at some pristine beach in dubai, out partying at some hot locale, or rubbing shoulders with celebs means absolutely nothing to men. If anything it's a bit of a turn off, but the point is that as long as she is good looking then we could give a fuck what kind of status she has, who she knows, or what she does. Women on the other hand salivate for men who look good and also have lavish/interesting lives.

We already know men are more visual than women in regards to attraction. We care a lot more about her physical assets. Women care more about the package. What a man represents. How he makes her feel. Men don't love interesting women, but women love interesting men.

^^^ Concise. Well said.

^
^ Women are naturally destined to follow the man, and no matter what nonsense the mainstream churns out, women are far more driven by subconscious instincts than men.

As such they understand on a basic level that no matter what their life is like, once they belong to a man then the life of the man becomes their life too.