Craziest dichotomy tonight..

I was playing a gig with my friend and there was a russian 7.5 and a russian 9 watching us. I almost never give "9" out. To me, 9 means high-end model pretty. I consider 9.5 and above to be the highest quality models... incidentally I sort of picked up a vogue model of this caliber this year, whom I consider to be 9.5- didn't fuck her but did have my hand on her tit at one point, and was texting with her ( she gave me her number after) even though she said she was a lesbian. Not bad for a not famous/not-rich/not-buff/not-super-handsome/tall guy.

She actually seemed like she'd be fun to hang out with.. it's been a while and she stopped responding to my texts so I think it's safe to post a pic now- here's that chick (met her on the street):




Back to the story at hand: Me and my friend swooped on these Russian girls and I got the 9s number.

They left and a couple of American 6-7s walked in.

We tried swooping on them and the reacted as if someone pulled out a dick in front of them.

The Russian girls were so much easier to talk to.

The American girls seemed like they needed either more or less medication.

And considering the difference in quality, it was the epitome of everything we talk about here in real life.

Welcome the new RVF Player of the Year:



She must have said: "I will marry the first man whose dick is bigger than his legs."

But for real, props to the guy.

^^^^ Talk about frame and positive attitude.

Got that blonde I met. Man, she seduced me. One moment I was just thinkin' I'll kiss for a bit and be on my way and pursue better logistics another day, the next moment she's pulling me into her car and I don't even know what happened.

These high schoolers... damn. Wish I had game when I was in HS. Two hours and a girl's ready to put out. She flashed some dude in the parking lot of Johnny's Tavern, too, as she sat up and forgot she was mostly nude. She freaked out. 'Twas hilarious.

I'd put my SNL game head to head with anyone on this forum, but I swear it's come at the expense of my mid-range game.

I feel like I get dumped into text messaging hell too often. This recent girl pulled a fast one by putting her # in my phone when I set it down, always a good sign, and things went pretty far the first night, at least as far as I could get them w/o penetration. Anyway, hit her up the next day with my usual script, and we both agreed we'd hang out soon.

Hit her up a few days later trying to make plans, exchanged a few messages, then radio silence trying to lock something in.

Waited about 5 days after that, started it up again, she did ask me if I was home, but I told her to come meet me at the bar I was at... hmm, that's probably where I fucked up... anyway radio silence after I tried to invite her there. The next morning she came back saying she had a really bad night or something like that.

Waited a few more days, restarted with a "Whats up", she literally responded in less than a minute, and then can't respond to "Doing better today?" Weird...

This is the type of shit I deal with, with most of the girls I meet and don't bang on night 1. I have cracked this a couple times, but my success rate has been subpar. So, I'm bringing it here to see how I can shore up my mid-range game.

You might be expecting too much.

What's your number close-to-bang conversion rate?

If you bang 10% of the girls you get numbers from you are doing extremely well. I recall Paul Janke, a PUA coach who I thought was a very good approacher, claimed his conversion rate from number to bang was 11%

If your conversion rate is less than 5%, then you probably need to tighten up your text game or maybe make a better first impression

But once your text game is good you really just have to work the numbers if you want to do the number close game. Girls are just fickle and flaky; you can't control them and what's going on in their lives, the best you can do is try to to influence them a bit through texts and phone calls.

It's very unpredictable; I've had girls I thought were a sure thing just disappear never to be heard from again , while others I had given up on reappeared and rode my dick like a champ

Hung out with a girl who I number closed during the day earlier this week.

She's 18, and meeting on campus was a good option. We met during the day after classes and I took her on a trail in this forest adjacent to campus. Nothing major, just some comfort building and some touching. Touched her thighs, knees, and played with her hands as I showed her muscles and tendons and elaborated on what I study. She was comfortable with it.

I told her we can hangout early next week in the evening. Plan will be to mix some drinks for us at a park near a lake or something and escalate.

I'm fucking this girl who has an amazing body bout terrible meat breath. Any advice?

Drink vodka with her?

Alcohol kills bad breath germs

Give her a disposable brush and just go brush your teeth. She'll get the hint

(10-02-2013 08:50 PM)MrXY Wrote:  You might be expecting too much.

You're probably right... I have no idea what my bangs/numbers ratio is though, I could keep a stat on this, but I doubt it's far below 10%.

Met a new girl last night, might try mixing texts up a little bit just to see what happens.

Headed to a bootleg wedding. BYOB, dress casual, and the couple wants money for a trip to Dallas.

Have some dress shoes, slacks, shirt and tie. My homegirl who I am going with is trying to hook me up with somebody. If all fails, headed to the hood club to peacock

New roommate is moving in this weekend. A girl. Cute, volleyball player. Trying to use her as a pivot and not bang her so as not to shit where I eat. Should be interesting the first time I rail a girl with this roommate in her adjoining wall bedroom.

Friday going out locally with a friend, goal is to meet some chicks as last weekend's girls didn't pan out. One of them was loaded and went silent and the other apparently was an acquaintances fuck toy and I'm not into following him as that shows REALLY poor decision making.

Saturday gonna get my shit in order during the day and go out to meet some girls at night. Sat/Sun I'll be at the beach trying to meet some hot girls in between the surf competitions and the volleyball tournament all weekend.

Still working unsuccessfully on Tinder as well as a couple girls I've banged or still in the works over text. Something should eventually stick and if not I've got the FWB to keep me warm.

Game on.

Just my luck!

I got picked up at the gym by this HOT Serbian girl, a solid 8.5. She opened me about my foam roller and it was game on from there. I knew that 90% of women whom hit the gym and aren't chained to the treadmill are working legs, so I tell her "its amazing for legs and you should do it prior and after each leg workout.. blahh blaah". She gets excited and grabs one and after that I was in auto pilot.

I ran solid game on the broad not noticing that she was in skin tight bodywear and her ass rolling damn near in my face. My new crib being in the dope spot in town helped, mentioned my homie (well my homie's, homie, whom knows this guy... all the same shit bahaha) just opened up this new bar and we should go, she was down of course. I told her to go get showered up and leave me alone to finish my workout and she came back and grabbed my number.

I got cockblocked by my phone because my phone app glitched when she tried to call me to send me her number... yikes. I seen it show up but it did not save the call in the call log... fuck.

Maybe its a blessing in disguise, because now she has to contact me. Even though I want to fuck that little thing I can't do nothing about it except go about my ways and game on. My frustration after the fact has turned to "meh", not much I can do unless the opportunity comes up again. It helped me in the gym though since I was pissed off my phone glitched I did damn well on my deadlift today.

If she texts me again she is thirsty obviously, and its on. I told her we are going on Saturday so whom knows what will go down. I double booked myself just in-case with some broad from work, but damn, that little ass we were basically eye fucking each other the whole time.

I don't pull shit often in the daytime so when a hot ass girl comes into my frame and its not at night in a bar its way different for me. But it was great since I was in my element, just at the gym doing my thing, and there was no tenseness in the air that can sometimes creep up at night.

I can see now how some guy prefer daygame but that whole aspect of going out in the day to just game turns me off. I would rather go out get sloppy and kill two birds with one stone. There is value in both, if Gym game could be more clear cut I would run it more but its full of traps.

(10-03-2013 05:01 PM)soup Wrote:  I'm fucking this girl who has an amazing body bout terrible meat breath. Any advice?

Tongue scraper. $2 at cvs. Tell her it makes you feel really fresh and improves your smile.

I don't want her to think that I'm so into our relationship that I went out an bought a tongue scraper or toothbrush for her.

Maybe I'll just have one on hand.

Which is better?

I'd go with the brush

Tongue scrapers remove the gunk on your tongue but not on your teeth and vice versa

At least with the brush the toothpaste makes her smell better

(10-04-2013 10:22 AM)soup Wrote:  I don't want her to think that I'm so into our relationship that I went out an bought a tongue scraper or toothbrush for her.

Maybe I'll just have one on hand.

Which is better?

Tongue scrapers really are very effective. I dated a girl who used one and she didn't even have bad morning breath

Maybe buy a few scrapers for yourself (they're cheap) and mention it when she comes over, show it to her and give her one.

I've got some Therabreath on order; it's supposed to be an excellent mouthwash to control bad breath. My breath is actually good but I'm trying to up my oral hygiene game

(10-04-2013 12:13 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(10-04-2013 10:22 AM)soup Wrote:  I don't want her to think that I'm so into our relationship that I went out an bought a tongue scraper or toothbrush for her.

Maybe I'll just have one on hand.

Which is better?

Tongue scrapers really are very effective. I dated a girl who used one and she didn't even have bad morning breath

Maybe buy a few scrapers for yourself (they're cheap) and mention it when she comes over, show it to her and give her one.

I've got some Therabreath on order; it's supposed to be an excellent mouthwash to control bad breath. My breath is actually good but I'm trying to up my oral hygiene game

Yea- i'm going to bring it up in the moment so it doesn't seem like I've been thinking about.

"Whoa- ha what did you eat? I love kissing you, but use this"

Takes out tongue scraper for her.

Then I'll give her my esophagus scraper.

(10-03-2013 07:03 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  not to shit where I eat.

I have never believed in the concept of "Don't Shit Where You Eat".

I don't know who made that up. It doesn't make sense to me.

Banging girls gives us a psychological power over them. They submitted to us. They gave us their bodies. They accepted our cocks. Why would this be a bad thing?

I like to "shit where I eat". I chase girls at work. I chase girls in my condo building. I chase girls at my local grocery store. I chase girls all over my neighborhood.

Just because I will see them again doesn't mean we should not fuck. I want that psychological power over them. I want them to know that they gave it up to me. I want them to talk about how I am a playboy. This will make other girls curious.

I don't get embarrassed about it. Why should I be embarrassed? Because we had sex? Sex is nothing to be embarrassed about.

I would like to fuck every cute girl in my condo building and every cute girl at work. Why not?

Sex is not illegal. Sex is nothing to be ashamed of.

"Shit where you eat" = "Fuck girls who you will see again".

I have no problem with that. I like to see them afterwards with their family and friends and we just look at each other with a little smile. They gave it to me and they know it. THEY might be embarrassed but I'M not.

If I had a cute female roommate I would try to fuck her and then push for a threesome. If 2 adults cannot respect each other after having sex then they are just immature, childish people.

Just my opinion..

I like guys like George Clooney, John Mayer, Warren Beatty, Gene Simmons, etc. Fuck all the girls and then let them gossip about it!

Building, neighborhood is WAY different than room-mate. I have enough women that I would at least TRY not to bang her. My 2c.

Its a huge headache to have "living problems" like a bitchy live-in semi GF.

(10-04-2013 01:15 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I have never believed in the concept of "Don't Shit Where You Eat".

I don't know who made that up. It doesn't make sense to me.

Roommate, especially when I'm sub-letting to her is not the same as a girl in the same apartment building.

If I end up banging her will I be super afraid of what might happen? No, not really. Do I think it's a WAY better decision to avoid banging her? Yes. Financially I have a big incentive to keep it drama free (seeing as I sublet the room out for more than half of what the total rent is). I just had to find a good roommate in thirteen days and pulled it off, I don't want to have to do that again anytime soon.

The last thing I need is to create a cock-block directly in my house when there are so many attractive girls right outside my doorstep.

I accidentally stumbled on a good restart text, or text to get a girl's attention. It's pretty simple, here it is:

GIRLSNAME... (yes, include the ellipses).

That's it. It has worked, when other things like comment/questions have not. I guess it appeals to their solipsism.

Textin Pokemon right now. She's not a snorlax.

I'm trying guys.
"Me: do you remember my name?"
"Pokemon: is it ****"
"Me: Yes"
"Me: Meow"
"Pokemon: your hilarious"
"Me: oh yea?"
"Pokemon: No not really"
"Me: oh your hilarious"
"Pokemon: I know"

Shit is intense for my little ass

The pipeline is more important than any one girl I believe.

Met a blond, Polish 8 on the bus a couple weeks ago. Opened her by asking her to look something up for me on her Iphone. Got her number and invited her to my shows.

She didn't respond to a few texts, and the texted me tonight out of the blue asking if I was playing tonight. I told her no, but that we could get a drink and check out some live music somewhere.

We make plans, and actually both end up on the same bus. I immediately go in for physical escalation- give her hug, sit next to her, and put my arm around her. She doesn't balk. Take her to a spot where they know me. We have a couple of rounds. Bounce her back to my place, and then I'm dealing with some heavy LMR. Got the bang.

Also, another thing that I do to prevent buyer's remorse in the girl: if she needs to go (for whatever reason- you need to get up early, she wants to leave, etc.) ask her to text you when she gets home so that you know she got back ok. If she complies, then it's all good.

Had a drink meeting with a girl who responded to my Craigslist sugar daddy ad. I wish guys who think there's nothing but ogresses on CL could have seen this girl-she was gorgeous. I seldom give out a 9 rating but she was one. And this girl was reading sex ads on CL. 20 yeas old, tall, slender with a great body -was wearing a dress showing off her big tits. Long red hair and face that could be on a magazine cover. Just had a drink and talked and she agreed to meet me for dinner one night. I'll try to bang her as soon as my schedule permits.

Left her and went to meet a POF chick . Turned out to be marginally bangable at best and talked about her ex husband and ex boyfriend and kid the whole damn time. Why do people do that? Just stupid, I guess. After an hour couldn't take any more and bailed out.

Went out to cold approach but there was an event in town that turned everywhere into a sausagefest. No results

On a date a couple of days ago I came up with what could be a good technique to deal with shit test girls hit you with when you're driving. They like to do this i guess because you're distracted and in a cramped space so you're more vulnerable then. When she started in on me I just reached over and turned the radio up full blast for 30 seconds. The next two times I not only turned it up but started bouncing in the seat and fist pumping the air. It's a good way to say "I'm ignoring you" while being funny about it. She just laughed each time I did it.