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(04-19-2013 02:34 PM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:20 PM)Eldon Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:19 PM)Firestorm Wrote: lol at all of this talk of Islam being in the dark ages or not. Europe is on it's knees from over spending and debt, the US is 17 trillion in the hole revealing how much of this colossus economy is actually hot air...
Many Muslim countries are enjoying a renaissance of development and wealth. Bric economies are growing, old economies are dying.
Economic progress =/ social/human progress
It reminds of that scene in Syriana. Mat Damon's character tells the Arab Sheikh, "You know what the business world thinks of you? They think a hundred years ago you were living in tents out here in the desert chopping each other's heads off and that's exactly where you'll be in another hundred year."
These countries are NOTHING without oil. Most of their engineers aren't even natives. I could go on and on about this.
lol you're right the middle east only has wealth because of oil.
The argument I only hear applied to the middle east. Why does Australia heave wealth? Why does the US have wealth? why does europe have wealth?
When you look into this deeper it's usually not to dissimialar from why the middle east is wealthy.
(04-19-2013 02:34 PM)_GQ_ Wrote: 
How is this guy avoiding police for so long. They had 9000 police officers on him at like 4AM. I'm sure by now theres even more. I get that they have to move slowly through areas as a precaution but jesus.
(04-19-2013 02:37 PM)MHaes Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:32 PM)Firestorm Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:31 PM)MHaes Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:26 PM)Firestorm Wrote: wel obviously blowing up people isn't cool... but causing havoc, fire fights with the police, throwing pie bombs at police, evading police cappture... guys sound like rambo....
It's pretty bad ass.
Are you 12 years old?
No, I'm just not brown bread.
What are you saying????
I'm not brown bread?
It's pretty simple: I don't do what I am told, I don't have respect for police....
I'd love to throw a pipe bomb at police it's bad ass. Some other people follow rules, do as society tells them and are a bit boring hence brown bread.
I aint brown bread.
Any guesses for whose going to play both brothers in Hollywood. I got my money on Ben Affleck as the older brother.
(04-19-2013 02:26 PM)Firestorm Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:23 PM)MHaes Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:02 PM)Firestorm Wrote: I have always thought Chechens are bad ass and this is just more proof.
Badass?
Its "badass" to plant antipersonnel bombs at a Marathon and blow up unsuspecting spectators and competitors?
wel obviously blowing up people isn't cool... but causing havoc, fire fights with the police, throwing pie bombs at police, evading police cappture... guys sound like rambo....
It's pretty bad ass.
Yes, trying to kill people is soooo badass. This isn't the movies. This is real life. These two are scum.
(04-19-2013 02:42 PM)Zebra_Cakes Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:26 PM)Firestorm Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:23 PM)MHaes Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:02 PM)Firestorm Wrote: I have always thought Chechens are bad ass and this is just more proof.
Badass?
Its "badass" to plant antipersonnel bombs at a Marathon and blow up unsuspecting spectators and competitors?
wel obviously blowing up people isn't cool... but causing havoc, fire fights with the police, throwing pie bombs at police, evading police cappture... guys sound like rambo....
It's pretty bad ass.
Yes, trying to kill people is soooo badass. This isn't the movies. This is real life. These two are scum.
you're right, sounds like something out of a movie...
(04-19-2013 02:41 PM)Firestorm Wrote: It's pretty simple: I don't do what I am told, I don't have respect for police....
I'd love to throw a pipe bomb at police it's bad ass. Some other people follow rules, do as society tells them and are a bit boring hence brown bread.
I aint brown bread.
So, because you don't respect them, you think it's okay and cool for people to try and murder them?
Let me get this straight, those of us who choose not to murder innocent people and throw bombs at police are boring?

(04-19-2013 02:47 PM)Zebra_Cakes Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:41 PM)Firestorm Wrote: It's pretty simple: I don't do what I am told, I don't have respect for police....
I'd love to throw a pipe bomb at police it's bad ass. Some other people follow rules, do as society tells them and are a bit boring hence brown bread.
I aint brown bread.
So, because you don't respect them, you think it's okay and cool for people to try and murder them?
Let me get this straight, those of us who choose not to murder innocent people and throw bombs at police are boring?

Obviously not everyone is not going to do that and in general it's a bad thing, but if you do it, you can do it like a bad ass...
Ain't nothing wrong with saying this guy sounds like a bad ass....
I bet you walked out of rambo too?
(04-19-2013 02:41 PM)Firestorm Wrote: It's pretty simple: I don't do what I am told, I don't have respect for police....
I'd love to throw a pipe bomb at police it's bad ass. Some other people follow rules, do as society tells them and are a bit boring hence brown bread.
I aint brown bread.
You'd love to but won't even dare. All the barking and no bite!
This is what Jack Donovan calls Vicarious Masculinity. Basically watching other people do what you want to do. You can never be alpha, but you'll fantasize about it through others.
Picking a bunch of Chechen terrorists as your alpha heroes

(04-19-2013 02:51 PM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:41 PM)Firestorm Wrote: It's pretty simple: I don't do what I am told, I don't have respect for police....
I'd love to throw a pipe bomb at police it's bad ass. Some other people follow rules, do as society tells them and are a bit boring hence brown bread.
I aint brown bread.
You'd love to but won't even dare. All the barking and no bite! 
This is what Jack Donovan calls Vicarious Masculinity. Basically watching other people do what you want to do. You can never be alpha, but you'll fantasize about it through others.
Picking a bunch of Chechen terrorists as your alpha heroes 
lol you got me I am so unalpha I need to live an alpha lifestyle by saying a guy who took on a bunch of swat police and gets away while throwing pipe bombs is a bad ass on an internet forum...
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(04-19-2013 01:25 PM)lavidaloca Wrote: Supposedly the kid still alive is a 19 year old medical student...I didn't realize it wsa possible to be a medical student at 19...wouldn't you have had to skip like 3 years.
He was not a medical student. According to students at umass dartmouth he was studying "economics or something." He might have technically been pre-med, which a proud crazy father translates into "medical student"
tomtud 路 2013-04-19 14:58:00 路 #688
(04-19-2013 02:35 PM)Icarus Wrote: (04-19-2013 02:15 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote: I have a feeling the Islam that prospered during the Middle Ages and the Islam that exists might as well be two different religions.
Of course. But the same applies to Christianity.
Christianity started as a religion for weaklings, women, and slaves. Then the Romans became Christian, too. Then the uncultivated Germanic Barbarians invaded the Roman Empire and pillaged Rome. A few centuries later, the Germanic Barbarians were calling themselves the Holy Roman Empire (which was Christian, but in a virile way), and invading Baltic states to spread Christianity during the Livonian Crusade. Religion changes over time.
Why do you even bring up Christianity in this debate. It has nothing to do with this event. Stick to Chechnya, US polices etc. talk about Christianity in another debate.
Eldon 路 2013-04-19 14:59:00 路 #689
(04-19-2013 02:50 PM)Firestorm Wrote: Ain't nothing wrong with saying this guy sounds like a bad ass....
True. Plus, he did it while on KETOSIS!
_GQ_ 路 2013-04-19 15:03:00 路 #690
Firestorm needs a time out.
This guy is bad ass...
^That kinda looks like a reverse Oreo.
(04-19-2013 04:10 PM)mistermister Wrote: ![[Image: zn1lxg.jpg]](http://oi35.tinypic.com/zn1lxg.jpg)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
(04-19-2013 12:46 PM)Sourcecode Wrote: This guy had a girlfriend..
Media is now reporting Katherine Russell was his "secret wife", whatever the hell that is. That they had a three year old daughter, Zahara. That after he got his permanent status green card he left the country for six months while she moved home with her parents with the baby, where she has since stayed. And that she just got back from a loooong day with Homeland Security. (
source)
And his mother-in-law, sadly, is a nurse.
Sounds like he was gaming the US immigration system to avoid being deported, first getting a
green card marriage, then getting an
anchor baby.
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chyamor 路 2013-04-19 17:07:00 路 #698
Roosh 路 2013-04-19 17:13:00 路 #699
Whole city of Boston is shut down in effective martial law, and they still can't catch this kid.
(04-19-2013 01:56 PM)ao85 Wrote: Here in Moscow, this doesn't seem to have sunk in yet regarding the Russian/chechen origins of the attackers but am curious as to what the reaction will be. I've expressed my dislike of Russians many times on this forum due to their racism - they treat Chechens, Asians, anyone dark skinned like second class citizens, and blacks can't even go out at night.
But they are right about the Chechens - these fuckers are trying to impose sharia law in Chechnya and are incompatible with modern civilization. I've gotten several DEATH threats from Chechens and central Asian Muslims in Russia after telling them I was American. I get hostility and coldness from Russians here, but never any death threats! Chechens commit a disproportionate amount of crime in Russia and have done awful things like the Beslan massacre.
If the manosphere is about exposing the truth, well this is one place to start.
Yes but you seem to get death threats wherever you go! You said someone pulled a gun on you in Kyrgyzstan. The taxi driver in Almaty ripped you off and you were scared he might attack you. Now you say the Chechens are threatening you!
I've been in Chechnya and they were very nice people there, courteous and friendly, no alcoholics or Gopniki on the streets. I was invited into the central mosque by a local worshiper who was one of the nicest dudes I've met in Russia. Everyone in the mosque was welcoming and cool.
You say Beslan was committed by Chechens. Yes, and Ingush, Saudis, Kuwaitis, British residents...
The fact is that you start your statement by saying you dislike Russian racism yet you then go on to make racist bigoted statements about Chechens. You are no different deep down than the Russians you dislike it seems.
The fact is that the guys who did this are total cunts and I hope their deaths were painful however their actions don't represent the Chechen people, the overwhelming majority of whom want nothing to do with extremist Islam or the fanatics blowing up schools and police stations in their name and instead just want to be able to make some cash and have a comfortable and safe life.