Supposedly the kid still alive is a 19 year old medical student...I didn't realize it wsa possible to be a medical student at 19...wouldn't you have had to skip like 3 years.

A picture of Tamerlan Tsarnaev at the morgue. Warning: it's very graphic:
http://i.imgur.com/0U0ozqt.jpg

That pic looks a little photoshopped to me

(04-19-2013 01:25 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  Supposedly the kid still alive is a 19 year old medical student...I didn't realize it wsa possible to be a medical student at 19...wouldn't you have had to skip like 3 years.

They have accelerated 6/7 year programs where you are are doing undergrad but are automatically accepted into MD if you pass your classes.

This seems fucked up that this guy is doing this shit.

Here in Moscow, this doesn't seem to have sunk in yet regarding the Russian/chechen origins of the attackers but am curious as to what the reaction will be. I've expressed my dislike of Russians many times on this forum due to their racism - they treat Chechens, Asians, anyone dark skinned like second class citizens, and blacks can't even go out at night.

But they are right about the Chechens - these fuckers are trying to impose sharia law in Chechnya and are incompatible with modern civilization. I've gotten several DEATH threats from Chechens and central Asian Muslims in Russia after telling them I was American. I get hostility and coldness from Russians here, but never any death threats! Chechens commit a disproportionate amount of crime in Russia and have done awful things like the Beslan massacre.

Perhaps this will finally end all the political correctness and people will realize that Islam is incompatible with civilization. Sure not all are terrorists, but a good chunk of them support quasi terrorist movements like Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic jihad, Lakshadweep e taiba, etc... And have no problem calling for death to people who draw pictures of Mohammed.

If the manosphere is about exposing the truth, well this is one place to start.

lol at all the anti-Islam stuff in here? especially given Adam Lanza just blew the heads off a bunch of kids...

I have always thought Chechens are bad ass and this is just more proof.

Ears shape and inner folds match between the morgue picture and the guy wrapping a woman's hand. Both show left ear from almost the same angle. Did it in photoshop. Ear folds are part of biometric data and almost as unique as fingerprints.

Would now say highly likely same guy.

(04-19-2013 01:56 PM)ao85 Wrote:  Here in Moscow, this doesn't seem to have sunk in yet regarding the Russian/chechen origins of the attackers but am curious as to what the reaction will be. I've expressed my dislike of Russians many times on this forum due to their racism - they treat Chechens, Asians, anyone dark skinned like second class citizens, and blacks can't even go out at night.

But they are right about the Chechens - these fuckers are trying to impose sharia law in Chechnya and are incompatible with modern civilization. I've gotten several DEATH threats from Chechens and central Asian Muslims in Russia after telling them I was American. I get hostility and coldness from Russians here, but never any death threats! Chechens commit a disproportionate amount of crime in Russia and have done awful things like the Beslan massacre.

Perhaps this will finally end all the political correctness and people will realize that Islam is incompatible with civilization. Sure not all are terrorists, but a good chunk of them support quasi terrorist movements like Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic jihad, Lakshadweep e taiba, etc... And have no problem calling for death to people who draw pictures of Mohammed.

If the manosphere is about exposing the truth, well this is one place to start.

It's interesting to hear this perspective. Can you give us more details about the death threats you received from Chechens?

I was watching a documentary the other day called Vory V Zakone, on the Russian mafia, and one of the guys in that documentary described the Chechens as wild as fuck. He was a legitimate businessman who had to take on some criminal partners because the Russian mob wanted to shake him down so he chose the Chechens. He said if Russian mobsters had a problem they would call a meeting, negotiate things, etc. The Chechens would walk into a room and just start killing everyone in sight. Their behavior is considered 'immoral' even by their fellow criminals.

(04-19-2013 01:56 PM)ao85 Wrote:  Perhaps this will finally end all the political correctness and people will realize that Islam is incompatible with civilization.

That's complete bullshit. During the Middle Ages, when Europe was living its dark ages, the Islamic world was living its golden age. It was the Islamic world that preserved all the Mathematics from Ancient Greece, for example. The words "algebra" and "algorithm" are Arabic, after all.

Of course, Islam today has nothing to do with that golden age. It has changed. The problem is not Islam, the problem is that the Islamic world is living its dark age, and it will take a few generations for things to improve.

I have a feeling the Islam that prospered during the Middle Ages and the Islam that exists might as well be two different religions. For example: The Islam practiced in Afghanistan would be unrecognizable practiced anywhere else.

lol at all of this talk of Islam being in the dark ages or not. Europe is on it's knees from over spending and debt, the US is 17 trillion in the hole revealing how much of this colossus economy is actually hot air...

Many Muslim countries are enjoying a renaissance of development and wealth. Bric economies are growing, old economies are dying.

Before you say you're referring to their aggresiveness: western countries are extremely aggresive given the Iraq, Afghanistan wars, supports of israel and the psuedo drone wars going on. Islamic terrorism is nothing compared to this.

(04-19-2013 02:19 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  lol at all of this talk of Islam being in the dark ages or not. Europe is on it's knees from over spending and debt, the US is 17 trillion in the hole revealing how much of this colossus economy is actually hot air...

Many Muslim countries are enjoying a renaissance of development and wealth. Bric economies are growing, old economies are dying.

Economic progress =/ social/human progress

(04-19-2013 02:02 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  I have always thought Chechens are bad ass and this is just more proof.

Badass?

Its "badass" to plant antipersonnel bombs at a Marathon and blow up unsuspecting spectators and competitors?

Don't confuse Islamic world with Arabic world icarus..... Yes, they are closely related but Islam does play a Big factor with the advancement of its followers. Most who happen to be in the Arab world. As for these losers, we need to wait to see what their goal was.

Yet in other Muslim countries the countryside and streets are filled with human shit because homeboys just drop trou and shit wherever.

You get to see a whole city tear itself apart in a civil war with machine gun fire and RPGs at night on post then during the day you see the men dig mass graves and toss their dead in. Many of them children.

(04-19-2013 02:20 PM)Eldon Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:19 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  lol at all of this talk of Islam being in the dark ages or not. Europe is on it's knees from over spending and debt, the US is 17 trillion in the hole revealing how much of this colossus economy is actually hot air...

Many Muslim countries are enjoying a renaissance of development and wealth. Bric economies are growing, old economies are dying.

Economic progress =/ social/human progress

and the west is progressing socially? Western countries are in a social meltdown of feminism and welfare....

(04-19-2013 02:23 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:02 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  I have always thought Chechens are bad ass and this is just more proof.

Badass?

Its "badass" to plant antipersonnel bombs at a Marathon and blow up unsuspecting spectators and competitors?

wel obviously blowing up people isn't cool... but causing havoc, fire fights with the police, throwing pie bombs at police, evading police cappture... guys sound like rambo....

It's pretty bad ass.

(04-19-2013 02:24 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:20 PM)Eldon Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:19 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  lol at all of this talk of Islam being in the dark ages or not. Europe is on it's knees from over spending and debt, the US is 17 trillion in the hole revealing how much of this colossus economy is actually hot air...

Many Muslim countries are enjoying a renaissance of development and wealth. Bric economies are growing, old economies are dying.

Economic progress =/ social/human progress

and the west is progressing socially? Western countries are in a social meltdown of feminism and welfare....

I love "the West." I eagerly await your data sheet on Jeddah...

(04-19-2013 02:26 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  wel obviously blowing up people isn't cool... but causing havoc, fire fights with the police, throwing pie bombs at police, evading police cappture... guys sound like rambo....

It's pretty bad ass.

Are you 12 years old?

Also, nice spelling.

(04-19-2013 02:31 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:26 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  wel obviously blowing up people isn't cool... but causing havoc, fire fights with the police, throwing pie bombs at police, evading police cappture... guys sound like rambo....

It's pretty bad ass.

Are you 12 years old?

No, I'm just not brown bread.

(04-19-2013 02:20 PM)Eldon Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:19 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  lol at all of this talk of Islam being in the dark ages or not. Europe is on it's knees from over spending and debt, the US is 17 trillion in the hole revealing how much of this colossus economy is actually hot air...

Many Muslim countries are enjoying a renaissance of development and wealth. Bric economies are growing, old economies are dying.

Economic progress =/ social/human progress

It reminds me of that scene in Syriana. Mat Damon's character tells the Arab Sheikh, "You know what the business world thinks of you? They think a hundred years ago you were living in tents out here in the desert chopping each other's heads off and that's exactly where you'll be in another hundred year."

These countries are NOTHING without oil. Most of their engineers aren't even natives. I could go on and on about this.

People are tired of Muslims being behind this type of shit.... thats all I can say

(04-19-2013 02:15 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  I have a feeling the Islam that prospered during the Middle Ages and the Islam that exists might as well be two different religions.

Of course. But the same applies to Christianity.

Christianity started as a religion for weaklings, women, and slaves. Then the Romans became Christian, too. Then the uncultivated Germanic Barbarians invaded the Roman Empire and pillaged Rome. A few centuries later, the Germanic Barbarians were calling themselves the Holy Roman Empire (which was Christian, but in a virile way), and invading Baltic states to spread Christianity during the Livonian Crusade. Religion changes over time.

(04-19-2013 02:32 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:31 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 02:26 PM)Firestorm Wrote:  wel obviously blowing up people isn't cool... but causing havoc, fire fights with the police, throwing pie bombs at police, evading police cappture... guys sound like rambo....

It's pretty bad ass.

Are you 12 years old?

No, I'm just not brown bread.

What are you saying????

I'm not brown bread?