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(04-19-2013 08:14 AM)TheSlayer Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:04 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: Slayer you reek of angry racial anti Americanism - having been to Moscow myself I can tell you in Moscow the Muscovites refer to those from the Caucasus regions (Chechens, Dagestan, Ingushetia etc) as "Blacks".
Google it...
As for Americans heads exploding - lovely metaphor considering all the killed and innocent women and children that died and lay dying in our streets in Boston - next time you are in Boston for a hockey game be sure to SHOOT your mouth off in a similar vein while you are here - our hockey fans will show you some serious Boston hospitality.
This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers - interesting the names include the term Tsar - on wonders if this may have contributed to their radical islamic sense of superiority. Time for the USA to closely monitor all on line radical islamic web propaganda and those IP addresses associated with their followers to get a handle on these scum bag killers.
As for the religion of peace - what did the 19 9-11 highjacker murderers and these two islamist radical Chechnyan nationalists have in common? They were Muslims - another inconvenient FACT.
Anyone who sympathizes with or justifies the actions of these radical Islamist Amercia hating and murdering bombers is blatantly anti American and I call on all American and Allied veterans who visit this board to call bull shite on these negging Anti American posts that are so disturbingly present on these ROOSHV boards.
Wow鈥 think a lot of the hostility is coming from you. I am neither angry, nor anti-American, nor do I have any racial agenda. I don鈥檛 care what the Russians refer to them as. I don鈥檛 care that they are black, white, Muslim, brown or whatever.
You are taking one post out of context. Read all of my posts in this thread. My posts and the posts of many other members in this very thread are calling out the incompetency of the mainstream media. The joke was that they first arrested some Saudi guy, then said some Indian guy did it and changed their facts constantly until they zeroed in on these brothers from Chechnya.
As for the American heads exploding, that鈥檚 a joke on the mainstream media. Nothing to do with the people who were hurt or dead in the blast. What鈥檚 with the hostility regarding me in Boston next time? Matter of fact, I have been in Boston and loved it as a city.
You are way out of line saying that I sympathized or justified the actions of these bombers? Where did I do that? NOWHERE.
Also, I hate clarifying this but you seem to imply or think it, but I AM NOT MUSLIM.
Once again read the entire threat before jumping into some sort of frenzy and accusing people of being angry or justifying the actions of the bombers when that never happened.
You need to check your facts before you shoot your mouth off.
In fact, no one in this thread justified the actions of the bombers or even attempted to go in that direction. Some strong rhetoric from you, my friend.
You are the one spewing racism and hatred: Quote:This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers -
Like I said "SLAYER" please do come to a Boston Bruins hockey game with your fave Canadian city and shoot off your tough guy Canadian mouth while you tell your sick "jokes".
I work in Boston and am a military Veteran and have many many military combat veteran friends of all races and creeds who would be more than happy to help you with your anti American attitude correction issues.
Fisto 路 2013-04-19 08:37:00 路 #552
(04-19-2013 08:23 AM)dum_dum20 Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:18 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: (04-19-2013 07:44 AM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote: Chechen extremists are really on the extreme side of extreme. A fair percentage of Jihadists overseas come from a Chechen background, and now they're here. Not good. They have a reputation for being absolutely ruthless, even as far as terrorists going. Read up on their conflict with Russia.
Newsflash - several of my USA Army ranger veteran friends told me point blank the toughest fighters in Afghanistan they were in combat with were the radical Chechan islamists - they engaged hundreds of Chechans in Afghanistan and made sure they all met Allah on the express fast track plan.
Time for the USA to stop being so phooking naive on who we let into this country and then letting them run radical islamist amok while here.
Time for the FBI to use its big data mining tech to surveill and catch the next bunch/cells before they kill again.
What about getting the US bases fuck out of places they don't belong? And not poking their nose into other countries affairs? That could be a solution as well.
Someone BAN this chump.
(04-19-2013 08:34 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:14 AM)TheSlayer Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:04 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: Slayer you reek of angry racial anti Americanism - having been to Moscow myself I can tell you in Moscow the Muscovites refer to those from the Caucasus regions (Chechens, Dagestan, Ingushetia etc) as "Blacks".
Google it...
As for Americans heads exploding - lovely metaphor considering all the killed and innocent women and children that died and lay dying in our streets in Boston - next time you are in Boston for a hockey game be sure to SHOOT your mouth off in a similar vein while you are here - our hockey fans will show you some serious Boston hospitality.
This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers - interesting the names include the term Tsar - on wonders if this may have contributed to their radical islamic sense of superiority. Time for the USA to closely monitor all on line radical islamic web propaganda and those IP addresses associated with their followers to get a handle on these scum bag killers.
As for the religion of peace - what did the 19 9-11 highjacker murderers and these two islamist radical Chechnyan nationalists have in common? They were Muslims - another inconvenient FACT.
Anyone who sympathizes with or justifies the actions of these radical Islamist Amercia hating and murdering bombers is blatantly anti American and I call on all American and Allied veterans who visit this board to call bull shite on these negging Anti American posts that are so disturbingly present on these ROOSHV boards.
Wow鈥 think a lot of the hostility is coming from you. I am neither angry, nor anti-American, nor do I have any racial agenda. I don鈥檛 care what the Russians refer to them as. I don鈥檛 care that they are black, white, Muslim, brown or whatever.
You are taking one post out of context. Read all of my posts in this thread. My posts and the posts of many other members in this very thread are calling out the incompetency of the mainstream media. The joke was that they first arrested some Saudi guy, then said some Indian guy did it and changed their facts constantly until they zeroed in on these brothers from Chechnya.
As for the American heads exploding, that鈥檚 a joke on the mainstream media. Nothing to do with the people who were hurt or dead in the blast. What鈥檚 with the hostility regarding me in Boston next time? Matter of fact, I have been in Boston and loved it as a city.
You are way out of line saying that I sympathized or justified the actions of these bombers? Where did I do that? NOWHERE.
Also, I hate clarifying this but you seem to imply or think it, but I AM NOT MUSLIM.
Once again read the entire threat before jumping into some sort of frenzy and accusing people of being angry or justifying the actions of the bombers when that never happened.
You need to check your facts before you shoot your mouth off.
In fact, no one in this thread justified the actions of the bombers or even attempted to go in that direction. Some strong rhetoric from you, my friend.
You are the one spewing racism and hatred: Quote:This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers -
Like I said "SLAYER" please do come to a Boston Bruins hockey game with your fave Canadian city and shoot off your tough guy Canadian mouth while you tell your sick "jokes".
I work in Boston and am a military Veteran and have many many military combat veteran friends of all races and creeds who would be more than happy to help you with your anti American attitude correction issues.
I still don't get where you are getting my "anti American" attitude from neither did I make a post about being a tough guy or anything else. Please feel free to find me specific examples. Thanks.
(04-19-2013 08:34 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:14 AM)TheSlayer Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:04 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: Slayer you reek of angry racial anti Americanism - having been to Moscow myself I can tell you in Moscow the Muscovites refer to those from the Caucasus regions (Chechens, Dagestan, Ingushetia etc) as "Blacks".
Google it...
As for Americans heads exploding - lovely metaphor considering all the killed and innocent women and children that died and lay dying in our streets in Boston - next time you are in Boston for a hockey game be sure to SHOOT your mouth off in a similar vein while you are here - our hockey fans will show you some serious Boston hospitality.
This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers - interesting the names include the term Tsar - on wonders if this may have contributed to their radical islamic sense of superiority. Time for the USA to closely monitor all on line radical islamic web propaganda and those IP addresses associated with their followers to get a handle on these scum bag killers.
As for the religion of peace - what did the 19 9-11 highjacker murderers and these two islamist radical Chechnyan nationalists have in common? They were Muslims - another inconvenient FACT.
Anyone who sympathizes with or justifies the actions of these radical Islamist Amercia hating and murdering bombers is blatantly anti American and I call on all American and Allied veterans who visit this board to call bull shite on these negging Anti American posts that are so disturbingly present on these ROOSHV boards.
Wow鈥 think a lot of the hostility is coming from you. I am neither angry, nor anti-American, nor do I have any racial agenda. I don鈥檛 care what the Russians refer to them as. I don鈥檛 care that they are black, white, Muslim, brown or whatever.
You are taking one post out of context. Read all of my posts in this thread. My posts and the posts of many other members in this very thread are calling out the incompetency of the mainstream media. The joke was that they first arrested some Saudi guy, then said some Indian guy did it and changed their facts constantly until they zeroed in on these brothers from Chechnya.
As for the American heads exploding, that鈥檚 a joke on the mainstream media. Nothing to do with the people who were hurt or dead in the blast. What鈥檚 with the hostility regarding me in Boston next time? Matter of fact, I have been in Boston and loved it as a city.
You are way out of line saying that I sympathized or justified the actions of these bombers? Where did I do that? NOWHERE.
Also, I hate clarifying this but you seem to imply or think it, but I AM NOT MUSLIM.
Once again read the entire threat before jumping into some sort of frenzy and accusing people of being angry or justifying the actions of the bombers when that never happened.
You need to check your facts before you shoot your mouth off.
In fact, no one in this thread justified the actions of the bombers or even attempted to go in that direction. Some strong rhetoric from you, my friend.
You are the one spewing racism and hatred: Quote:This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers -
Like I said "SLAYER" please do come to a Boston Bruins hockey game with your fave Canadian city and shoot off your tough guy Canadian mouth while you tell your sick "jokes".
Curious why you need to be so defensive - perhaps a window to your soul. You will find that Bostonians will not find any humor in bombing jokes for lets say the next 100 years or so.
I work in Boston and am a US military Veteran and have many many military combat veteran friends of all races and creeds who would be more than happy to help you with your anti American attitude correction issues.
Icarus 路 2013-04-19 08:38:00 路 #555
(04-19-2013 08:31 AM)POHammer Wrote: Didn't the US try that in the 90s? The army pulled out of Somalia and there were minimal conflicts.
The Muslim world is larger than Somalia.
(04-19-2013 08:31 AM)POHammer Wrote: Yet, they still attacked on 9/11
And the terrrorists were mostly Saudi. They were pissed at the U.S. because of the presence of U.S. troops in the Arab Peninsula since the Gulf War. They were pissed at the modernization of Saudi Arabia since the 1970s. Their society changed overnight.
(04-19-2013 08:31 AM)POHammer Wrote: Is it because US culture pervades their countries? I can't buy that.
Not everybody wants an American life. Islamic terrorism targeted at the U.S. seems to be a reaction against American cultural imperialism that tries to export American values to fragile and artificial post-decolonization multi-tribal countries that are merely decades old and that never went through the Enlightenment in the first place. Angry people will find all sorts of rationalizations to justify their violence.
(04-19-2013 08:34 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:14 AM)TheSlayer Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:04 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: Slayer you reek of angry racial anti Americanism - having been to Moscow myself I can tell you in Moscow the Muscovites refer to those from the Caucasus regions (Chechens, Dagestan, Ingushetia etc) as "Blacks".
Google it...
As for Americans heads exploding - lovely metaphor considering all the killed and innocent women and children that died and lay dying in our streets in Boston - next time you are in Boston for a hockey game be sure to SHOOT your mouth off in a similar vein while you are here - our hockey fans will show you some serious Boston hospitality.
This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers - interesting the names include the term Tsar - on wonders if this may have contributed to their radical islamic sense of superiority. Time for the USA to closely monitor all on line radical islamic web propaganda and those IP addresses associated with their followers to get a handle on these scum bag killers.
As for the religion of peace - what did the 19 9-11 highjacker murderers and these two islamist radical Chechnyan nationalists have in common? They were Muslims - another inconvenient FACT.
Anyone who sympathizes with or justifies the actions of these radical Islamist Amercia hating and murdering bombers is blatantly anti American and I call on all American and Allied veterans who visit this board to call bull shite on these negging Anti American posts that are so disturbingly present on these ROOSHV boards.
Wow鈥 think a lot of the hostility is coming from you. I am neither angry, nor anti-American, nor do I have any racial agenda. I don鈥檛 care what the Russians refer to them as. I don鈥檛 care that they are black, white, Muslim, brown or whatever.
You are taking one post out of context. Read all of my posts in this thread. My posts and the posts of many other members in this very thread are calling out the incompetency of the mainstream media. The joke was that they first arrested some Saudi guy, then said some Indian guy did it and changed their facts constantly until they zeroed in on these brothers from Chechnya.
As for the American heads exploding, that鈥檚 a joke on the mainstream media. Nothing to do with the people who were hurt or dead in the blast. What鈥檚 with the hostility regarding me in Boston next time? Matter of fact, I have been in Boston and loved it as a city.
You are way out of line saying that I sympathized or justified the actions of these bombers? Where did I do that? NOWHERE.
Also, I hate clarifying this but you seem to imply or think it, but I AM NOT MUSLIM.
Once again read the entire threat before jumping into some sort of frenzy and accusing people of being angry or justifying the actions of the bombers when that never happened.
You need to check your facts before you shoot your mouth off.
In fact, no one in this thread justified the actions of the bombers or even attempted to go in that direction. Some strong rhetoric from you, my friend.
You are the one spewing racism and hatred: Quote:This is the downside to Boston we let folks from around the world come here for school (These lads were grads of Cambridge Ringe and Latin elite prep school) and they bring their in-bred hatreds with them including the Bin Ladens and now the Tsaraev brothers -
Like I said "SLAYER" please do come to a Boston Bruins hockey game with your fave Canadian city and shoot off your tough guy Canadian mouth while you tell your sick "jokes".
I work in Boston and am a military Veteran and have many many military combat veteran friends of all races and creeds who would be more than happy to help you with your anti American attitude correction issues.
No one here is supporting the actions of these terrorsits. Lets keep that in mindl, no personal attacks or threats needed.
You can certainly discuss whether american policy is right or wrong but at the same time be against terrorism.
Gentlemen, I believe we're getting off topic here. I have my own views on the Middle East after a tour there and I believe it's conducive to civilized discussion that I keep it to myself, or at least out of this thread.
chyamor 路 2013-04-19 08:45:00 路 #558
If you fuckers are going to reply with quotes do it over private message.
From Deepdiver:
Quote:Curious why you need to be so defensive - perhaps a window to your soul. You will find that Bostonians will not find any humor in bombing jokes for lets say the next 100 years or so.
I am not defensive, merely replying to your accusations.
I did not make one single bombing joke. Please find my bombing joke.
I was talking about the mainstream media and the general American public when I said their heads will explode when they find out that the bombers were White and Muslim (as did many other posters, btw). THe background of statement comes from the theory going around that right wing people wanted a Muslim to be the terrorist and left wing people wanted a White guy. Instead, they got both. Hence, the minds will explode comment. Not a joke whatsoever about the Boston bombing. Maybe you need to learn what a joke and humour are.
You resorted to personal attacks and threats. Okay, so be it.
(04-19-2013 08:38 AM)Icarus Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:31 AM)POHammer Wrote: Didn't the US try that in the 90s? The army pulled out of Somalia and there were minimal conflicts.
The Muslim world is larger than Somalia.
(04-19-2013 08:31 AM)POHammer Wrote: Yet, they still attacked on 9/11
And the terrrorists were mostly Saudi. They were pissed at the U.S. because of the presence of U.S. troops in the Arab Peninsula since the Gulf War. They were pissed at the modernization of Saudi Arabia since the 1970s. Their society changed overnight.
(04-19-2013 08:31 AM)POHammer Wrote: Is it because US culture pervades their countries? I can't buy that.
Not everybody wants an American life. Islamic terrorism targeted at the U.S. seems to be a reaction against American cultural imperialism that tries to export American values to fragile and artificial post-decolonization multi-tribal countries that are merely decades old and that never went through the Enlightenment in the first place. Angry people will find all sorts of rationalizations to justify their violence.
I don't think its the American culture being exported there as much as oil wealth and economic "progress" changing their culture.
*sigh* I'm just glad I have the freedom to spend the rest of my life in a rural town with a peaceful life. "Civilization" and "modernity" are just too fucked up for me to accept.
chyamor 路 2013-04-19 08:49:00 路 #561
police scanner says the might have ping on cell phone, might have him down to 1 or 2 streets. DOD and FBI moving in fast
Memorial and Ash intersection
Icarus 路 2013-04-19 08:51:00 路 #562
(04-19-2013 08:18 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: Newsflash - several of my USA Army ranger veteran friends told me point blank the toughest fighters in Afghanistan they were in combat with were the radical Chechan islamists - they engaged hundreds of Chechans in Afghanistan and made sure they all met Allah on the express fast track plan.
There was an article on that on
The eXile a few years ago:
(04-19-2013 08:37 AM)Fisto Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:23 AM)dum_dum20 Wrote: What about getting the US bases fuck out of places they don't belong? And not poking their nose into other countries affairs? That could be a solution as well.
Someone BAN this chump.
Why? Is it because you don't like / disagree with my opinion or did I break some forum rule?
(04-19-2013 08:49 AM)chyamor Wrote: police scanner says the might have ping on cell phone, might have him down to 1 or 2 streets. DOD and FBI moving in fast
Memorial and Ash intersection
Guy is going down.
I'm with Fisto on this.
When I hear Muslim I think religious fanatics. Not a skin color.
As this map shows, Islam in not an exclusively ME religion.
The left brings up race as the polarization it causes amongst the masses works to their benefit.
Icarus 路 2013-04-19 08:59:00 路 #566
(04-19-2013 08:53 AM)POHammer Wrote: Guy is going down.
Martyrdom is probably his goal. He had several days to leave Boston. Why didn't he?
I'm sure some Radical Mullah told him over skype that's how he's going to collect his virgins.
(04-19-2013 08:59 AM)Icarus Wrote: (04-19-2013 08:53 AM)POHammer Wrote: Guy is going down.
Martyrdom is probably his goal. He had several days to leave Boston. Why didn't he?
He's probably not even thinking now...just adrenaline and rage fueling him.
It's possible the Tsarnaev brothers are not the Boston Marathon bombers. They could be copycats bombers. Or they could just be anti-authoritarian Chechnyans that had a screw come loose when 9000 police came into the neighborhood and started doing house by house searches.
The Tsarnaev brothers have held up a 7-11, car jacked, gotten in a shootout with the police, and are otherwise much more high profile than the Boston Marathon bombers were.
Chechnyans also did the
Moscow Theater Hostage Crisis.
(04-19-2013 09:05 AM)POHammer Wrote: He's probably not even thinking now...just adrenaline and rage fueling him.
If they corner him inside a building, expect the building to be flooded with sleeping gas.
(04-19-2013 09:15 AM)Blackhawk Wrote: It's possible the Tsarnaev brothers are not the Boston Marathon bombers. They could be copycats bombers. Or they could just be anti-authoritarian Chechnyans that had a screw come loose when 9000 police came into the neighborhood and started doing house by house searches.
The Tsarnaev brothers have held up a 7-11, car jacked, gotten in a shootout with the police, and are otherwise much more high profile than the Boston Marathon bombers were.

Islam by definition is authoritarian, but I digress.......
One of the dead is the Boston marathon bomber, his brother is on the run. So the possibility you mention is out the window. Has been for a few hours now.
Tex Pro 路 2013-04-19 09:21:00 路 #571
Damn, Boston and its suburbs are completely locked down. The Mayor has suspended all public transportation, people are being evacuated from the area, and the national guard is being mobilized.
navajo 路 2013-04-19 09:22:00 路 #572
(04-19-2013 09:22 AM)navajo Wrote: The moment we've been waiting for:
"According to the website spotcrime.com, Tamerlan was arrested for domestic violence in July 2009, after assaulting his girlfriend."
http://news.yahoo.com/stories-2-brothers...23274.html
If she had put out none of this would have happened...
(04-19-2013 09:21 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote: Damn, Boston and its suburbs are completely locked down. The Mayor has suspended all public transportation, people are being evacuated from the area, and the national guard is being mobilized.
National guard? Evacuations?
That seems excessive for a single 19 year old.
The more details come out, the more this seems like some amateur loser kid...a common thug and criminal. FBI and SWAT should be enough to catch someone like this....
Tex Pro 路 2013-04-19 09:31:00 路 #575
(04-19-2013 09:27 AM)POHammer Wrote: (04-19-2013 09:21 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote: Damn, Boston and its suburbs are completely locked down. The Mayor has suspended all public transportation, people are being evacuated from the area, and the national guard is being mobilized.
National guard? Evacuations?
That seems excessive for a single 19 year old.
The more details come out, the more this seems like some amateur loser kid...a common thug and criminal. FBI and SWAT should be enough to catch someone like this....
They had homemade grenades and bomb vests. Authorities are probably worried that he may have more explosives.