I might be stating the obvious but Tinder is a disease. It makes us too reliant on online game as now it's within your fingertips....the risk/return from day game and night game is so much higher than what you can get on Tinder. In real life you can get girls you have no chance with on Tinder as with Tinder the only attribute you can convey is your looks while there are dozens and dozens of guys competing with you -- when you move things to real life game, a lot of these guys disappear because they don't have the balls to make moves in real life.

My main takeaway on this -- don't get complacent on Tinder. The same way you work out your muscles, you need to work out your game. Tinder is the equivalent of junk food for someone who is trying to work out.

Yeah, agreed. I'm becoming too complacent. It's worse, as I'm just a newbie trying to get started in real life.

Spot on Swiss!
I started using Tinder and have turned it off after one day.

I've been decent matches as of late. Just today I matched with two mixed asian chicks and a blonde Korean. The only thing is that I don't see it going anywhere unless I have fire openers. Also one of the chick's mentions that she's with someone in her bio and being an alpha, haha.

(08-02-2015 07:01 AM)swiss rabbit Wrote:  I might be stating the obvious but Tinder is a disease. It makes us too reliant on online game as now it's within your fingertips....the risk/return from day game and night game is so much higher than what you can get on Tinder. In real life you can get girls you have no chance with on Tinder as with Tinder the only attribute you can convey is your looks while there are dozens and dozens of guys competing with you -- when you move things to real life game, a lot of these guys disappear because they don't have the balls to make moves in real life.

My main takeaway on this -- don't get complacent on Tinder. The same way you work out your muscles, you need to work out your game. Tinder is the equivalent of junk food for someone who is trying to work out.

It's time for me to start cold approaching.

Online is a waste of time. I'd rather get rejected on the street by proper hot girls, than average post-wall carousel riders online. I do well online without too much effort, but the general attitude of women online is very shitty and wears me down.

I'm over 40 so if I'm approaching online I am somewhat forced to approach women in my age range, and they are incredibly boring and jaded. If I focus on day game and night game, my age becomes irrelevant and open to interpretation.

Online game should not be the main source of poosy.

Most time when I get an 8+ match, the reply rate is very low.
When I don't reply to a girl, it's usually because I just swiped everyone and got various matches I'm not into at all, but when girls swipe, I would assume they are more picky, as otherwise they will have a match every single swipe. therefore I'm not sure what's the logic here on their end.
Any recommendations? maybe good one-liners?

I'm pipe-lining in Scandinavia right now if it matters.

Tinder can definitely make you lazy and derail you from real life game. But I've gotten dozens of bangs off Tinder with only average looks and above-average text game/first date game. My notch count is probably twice what it would be if not for dating apps. I would argue that it should still definitely be included in any man's means of getting laid, along with night game, day game, social circle game, etc.

Here are a few of my go to Tinder lines. I don't open with these but look for ways to interject them into the conversaton:


"So let's play a game. Two truths and a lie. Go."

"Well if we're ever gonna hang out then you've got one very important test to pass first" wait for her response.. "So it's been a few months. You're madly in love with me. We're on my couch watching TV. What're we watching?" wait for response.. "Well I have good news, you get a B plus on your test. Good job!"

"So what's your story"


"Well tinder's been fun but I vote we move this chat to text"

Something is seriously fucked with my tinder. Multiple times now I'll have a conversation with a match and once I ask what part of town she's in it turns oUT she's way off in another city or province.

I'll also see girls I swipe have pics of them/bios saying they're from other cities than mine too.

Anyone else have this problem? I'm getting some matches from my city, but for the most part it seems to be completely random geographically.

^ I've had that happen too. After you match click out of her profile then back in and look at the distance again. It should be more accurate now.

Every time I match with an especially busted or fat chick now before I unmatch them I report them for having "inappropriate photos". Childish maybe but I always get a kick out of it, almost makes up for having to see the ugly lizard

^^ haha where's that Charlton Heston gif ?

Stop hating on online game scrubs. Use it as a supplement as it was intended.

I just had a first-hand view into a tinder-driven transformation of a girl-next-door type into an attention-whoring primadonna in a matter of a few days.

Matched wih this early 30s chick and met for drinks the following night. Decent looking, tho insecure about her smallish tits. Says she just got on Tinder. I run my game and escalate to heavy makeout but she adamantly keeps on refusing to go home with me. Ok, fine. At the end of date she's basically begging me to call her sometime. A couple days later I hit her up with "wine at your place" and get the "I'm busy and u r not coming to my place" response. I next her, not bothering to reply.

What prompted me to write this post is another text that she sent me late that same night, probably after her date fizzled out:

Her: For a smart guy u should realize that I'm a pretty hot commodity on Tinder & my nights gets booked up quickly. If you wanna see me again I need more notice...

Right. Bitches be crazy.

Man, bitches hate to be ignored. Did you reply to that text?

No. I subscribe to the mindset set out by one of the brothers on this board, which is: if a girl says something annoying or doesn't agree to do what I like, I don't respond. Plenty other girls out there who will.

'Cause you have to be "hot" to be gangbanged by 5 thirsty Italians in Florence

How'd that turn out for you?

I'm starting to realize that these tinder whores are on a level of entitlement that borders on delusional. It's been said before, but for everyone reading tinder should only make up 20-30% of your game. Day game or night game is sooo much better.

Example: Stop hot yoga instructor in starbucks, game her accordingly.
We text and next day we are on a date, making out later.
Tinder whores: match with 5 in 24 hours get digits. All of them flake or come up with excuses for why the can't meet, not as attractive as yoga instructor. I begin to realize they aren't living in the real world. I know it's easier said than done, but just get out the house/office and approach, your sanity will thank you later. Mine sure has.

-CD

I used FakeGPS to move my location to Scottsdale. I am killing it matching with hot MILFS and cougars there. Too bad I'm in Florida.....

It might be worth traveling out there for a week sometime soon.

Bang Scottsdale?

(08-04-2015 05:30 PM)brob Wrote:  Tinder can definitely make you lazy and derail you from real life game. But I've gotten dozens of bangs off Tinder with only average looks and above-average text game/first date game.

How good looking are you and what was the median age and quality level of these dozens of chicks?

(08-11-2015 05:20 AM)UnW Wrote:  'Cause you have to be "hot" to be gangbanged by 5 thirsty Italians in Florence

Male dominance is a universal attraction cue in women. Across cultures. It's human nature.

If a girl does not think you are dominant, she won't be attracted to you.

The problem with Tinder is: in any Tinder interaction, she is the dominant one. She is the one with thousands of matches, while the dude has only a fraction of that. And she knows it.

The attitude of many girls on dating apps is: he is lucky to be talking to me. Any dude talking to her is operating in her frame, and being the dominant one in that interaction dries up her vag.

So this is why girls have a schizophrenic love/hate relationship with Tinder. On the one hand, they love the attention. On the other hand, they aren't attracted to any of the dudes on there; male dominance is needed for female arousal, and that interpersonal element is completely missing in a girl's Tinder experience.

The only sure way for a dude to be the dominant one in an interaction on Tinder is if he is out of league. I know when a guy has met his girlfriend online; it's when he is an 8 and she is a 5.

In person, you can exude dominance: you're bigger, taller, stronger than her. You're charming, you're well-dressed, you're funny, the people around like you. All that's completely missing on Tinder.

If you even bother with Tinder, the only thing to do is to get a number and schedule a meetup as soon as possible. However like many other posters I've veered towards the "No Tinder" sentiment.

Once again a woman confuses what she sees as value in a man with what men value in women.

A man who can openly have several women in short succession or at the same time clearly has an SMV which is higher than those women's combined SMV.

She thinks this value applies to her because she was gang banged (probably by thirsty illegal immigrants).

(08-12-2015 01:34 AM)N°6 Wrote:  Once again a woman confuses what she sees as value in a man with what men value in women.

A man who can openly have several women in short succession or at the same time clearly has an SMV which is higher than those women's combined SMV.

She thinks this value applies to her because she was gang banged (probably by thirsty illegal immigrants).

Italian men are perfectly capable of gang banging crazy tourist girls themselves - it's not so bad in Florence as in other cities.

But that comment is quite telling of how women are deluded about their sexual market value. It makes them ride the carousel harder and longer.

A man who gets a 4-some with 4 Russian girls is a stud and rightly so. Her hamster-brain then thinks that getting gang-banged by 4 good-looking Italian guys is a sign that she could actually get 4 relationships out of that.

Of course we know that it is quite the opposite. What is so amazing about the comment is that women are completely oblivious of what is actually a sign of their market value. It just means that she is not fat and even a fat girl with a 5 face could accomplish a gang bang.

We know and in the past women knew that a sign of her sexual market valuation is what kind of man would want to commit to her. If a wealthy good-looking Italian guy from a powerful family would want to have you as a girlfriend and considered you marriage worthy - that would be a good parameter of your worth. If he wanted to stick his dick in you together with 3 of his closest buddies - that just means he treated you like a sex toy or a whore. It means nothing much, but women nowadays get their hamsters inflated to the stratosphere.

I've never tried Tinder.

My takeaway from online dating is that it took a lot of time, and there's too many thirsty dudes going after the same pool of average looking girls.

American girls respond to foreign accents (and naturally foreign men) like all men do to porn.

Any long-term Tinder user can tell you that it's consistently getting worse and worse in the US, but it's still easy enough if you're willing to bang an average girl.

It has, however, made me able to get laid in cities like San Salvador and Bogota on 24-hour layovers with ease (and quality girls too). That wouldn't have been as easy in the past and I'd have to go out and spend money drinking and hope I was passing through Bogota on Gringo Tuesdays or something.

Why do guys think online dating take a lot of time?

Throwing up a decent profile takes 10-15 min
Spend time swiping, messaging, poking when you're taking a shit, dicking off at work, riding the metro, waiting for your meal, etc etc.

I matched up with this average white girl and got her number within 5 sets of messages. I probably used 10 brain cells or a about 2 kcals of energy.

This is passive pussy play gents.