Post: #326

I love Connor Murphy's videos. Raw experimental evidence of "the power an amazing physique has over women".

Post: #327

Dude has a crazy small neck and head compared to the rest of his body.

As soon as I saw him I thought back to those hilarious moments in the old cartoons when the villain of the set picks a fight with some guy on the other side of a desk or a partition because they look like a wiener, only for the wiener to step out and reveal that they're friggin' huge.

Post: #328

(02-28-2017 02:33 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ^ Note that I eventually went back up to the 230 or I was sitting at for about eight months before I started travelling earlier this year with my mate, which is where I was playing Pokemon Go with Tasmanian Girls and pulled the Brexit Three-Way without much effort. Since then, I've naturally lost mass due to the sheer amount of physical labour I'm doing daily now, even injured, so I'm guessing I'm 210 or so, but I'm seemingly-always pumped because the work never stops. 200 seems to be the magic number for me where girls start acting out with lust.

I have also found this to be the case, once I drop below the 200 mark there is a significance drop in attention.

I am 194 right now, I feel inspired to get back to 200.

Also the health benefits are nothing to laugh at, most people suffer from some sort of ailment. (Physical or Mental)

Post: #329

(03-13-2017 06:53 PM)eL-JJ Wrote:  

To all the nay-sayers..... clearly a amazing phsique holds no power over women. A fat guy or skinny fat guy could remove his shirt and get all that attention.

Post: #330

Don't mean to derail but is Conner Murphey natty?

His videos are dope, there is always one salty beta trying to divert attention / upstage Conner, I find that kind of funny.

These women though, they lose all inhibition in front of a ripped body, it's so primal.

The things they do in public... if the roles were reversed, would be considered creepy as hell. (some girl licked her fingers and pinched his nipples multiple times for example) He didn't ask for this

Post: #331

Not just lose inhibition in front of a ripped body, but also in front of a camera, which is probably just as important.

Post: #332

(03-14-2017 07:54 PM)Matrixdude Wrote:  Don't mean to derail but is Conner Murphey natty?

His videos are dope, there is always one salty beta trying to divert attention / upstage Conner, I find that kind of funny.

These women though, they lose all inhibition in front of a ripped body, it's so primal.

The things they do in public... if the roles were reversed, would be considered creepy as hell. (some girl licked her fingers and pinched his nipples multiple times for example) He didn't ask for this

Doubt he's natty, but he's got one of the best aesthetic physiques I've seen, so either way I respect the hustle.

Couldn't find his stats, you could look at his fat free mass index (FFMI) and see where he stands. Anything pushing 25 and above, most likely juiced.

Post: #333

Connor Murphy has more than just a ripped body, the dude is already the ideal height that most women like in a guy, and he has great facial symmetry. Heck, even his damn hairstyle is cool. No doubt he'd do reasonably well with even a "regular" body (ie, not fat, not skinny, just average), with those attributes.

Of course, being ripped only helps and takes him over the top. However, I've known guys that were not at all ripped, but they had these other attributes (height + facial symmetry), and they often elicited a similar response from women. So I would have to say that all told, what makes the greatest impression is:

1. Height
2. Face + being athletic/in-shape or can at least pass as such
3. Being uber-ripped a la CM

There's plenty of muscle heads that are not tall, not handsome, and they just look like cartoons that women do not swoon over like they do for this Connor dude. There is of course a subset of women that will swoon over such guys, but then there's women who go for skinny hipster dudes also, so that's neither here nor there.

Post: #334

Connor Murphy goes grocery shopping. The awkward part starts at 2m30s:

Post: #335

Hey, surprised no one linked to this thread: Weightlifting is not a panacea for attraction problems Lots of great material in here for non-believers.
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In any case, even if there were no bitches on the planet I'd still lift.

In addition to the benefits QC mentions a few pages back, lifting - and exercise in general - improves cognition by improving blood flow.

For me, it's a 'keystone habit' that benefits everything else I do in life.

p.s. less 'fat pad' will make your dick appear bigger, too.

Below, from The Book of Pook:

Quote:What Every Skinny Guy Should Know

Smart, fun, and interesting. So why is it that all the beautiful women always seem out of your grasp?

Why!? You may even be athletic. You can do karate, can run super fast around the track, along with other things. So why does it seem you can get the average to cute girls but the very attractive women seem out of your reach?

What is holding you back is that you are skinny.

“But I like being skinny,” you say. “Look at all those fat people!” Indeed. “Those guys who go to the gym and all are just idiots.”

There was an article in the Atlantic Constitution that said how average women marry skinny guys over big guys. It also said... why am I parroting? Let the article speak for itself:

Quote:"When women are choosing mates - except for very attractive women -- they're facing a tradeoff of choosing a guy who's very sexy or one who will stick around and treat them well," he added.

It is self-evident that beautiful women end up with the masculine men, in other words, NOT skinny guys like you.

I know... I can hear what the objections you’re saying... because I used to make them. It seemed so ‘jock like’ and is ‘below you’.

I have gained over 50+ pounds of muscle mass. There is a saying that when skinny guys get big, when they look in the mirror, they still see the skinny guy. This is true, as my ‘skinny mind’ hasn’t yet caught up with my body.

Let me tell you of the change of reactions I got from the women:

For your reading pleasure,

Fat Girl = Means a big girl that requires an elephant gun.

Ugly Girl = In the same category as Fat Girl. These girls may not be fat, but it hurts to look at them.

Average Girl = They don’t hurt your eyes, but they aren’t amazing enough to attract your eyes. Average girls are the plain Janes.

Cute Girls = Often, they are innocent average girls whose innocence makes them cute. They are a bit picky about who they end up with as they are inexperienced.

Very Attractive = Great curves, long luscious hair, nice everything. These women know they are very attractive and sometimes narcissistically wear outfits to reflect it.

Very Beautiful = Bombshell. Every guy will notice this girl and stare and gawk. You know one of these women are around by seeing the satellites of boys trying to be ‘friends’ with them. Guys fear these magnificent creatures.

155

I started out around 155 pounds at 6’3 height. This meant that I was very skinny. I was also considered a nice looking guy. Women loved me being tall.

At this point, I had to deal with a lot of fat chicks hitting on me. These girls were BIG and I wanted nothing to do with them. Ugly girls also would come to me. This was me not doing anything. This was what my body was attracting all alone. If I wanted to get a cuter girl, I had to work for it.

I have problems talking to women, not because I am scared or boring, but because I sense the women think I am ‘below’ them. And the truth is that they do.

I date average women.

165

Already, things have changed. The fat/ugly women still go for me but they don’t think I’m as easy. They want to enter oneitis with me. The ‘unworthy’ girls category would now all be staring at me. To the beautiful women, I’m just a typical guy. Cute girls now enjoy talking to me.

I still date average women and now some cute women

175

“You are looking very good,” my older female manager told me. The fat/ugly women no longer hit on me (thank goodness!) and people (out of the blue) are asking why I don’t have a girlfriend. Average girls are beginning to stare.

I date only cute women with some very attractive ones mixed in.

185

Average girls are now hitting on me. Very attractive women are checking me out. At this stage, every woman is happy to talk to me. They all secretly wonder if I’m gay.

I date more very attractive women but still have the cute ones.

195

OK, when you don’t have a girlfriend at this stage, the ladies will whisper, “Is he gay?” all the time. One girl got bold about it and asked me point blankly, “Pook, you are cute and all. So why don’t you have a girlfriend?” I was stunned by her bluntness (rare among women).

Average women consider me out of their league. Cute ones try to become my ‘friend’.

I date only very attractive women. Beautiful women are still a bit of an anomalie.

205

When you get to this stage, something very strange happens. All the attention and staring women gave you is gone (mostly). Ugly/Fat women will despise you as will the average women. Most girls will be scared of you (cute girls, very attractive girls)

Let me give you some examples. One Very Beautiful girl was in several of my classes. I start talking to her and she has plenty of time to leave. But she doesn’t... she stays to keep talking to me. The girls now notice me, but are a bit scared to talk and act around me.

One cute girl is like a leech to me in one of my classes. She must sit right next to me, must ‘borrow my notes’, must talk to me 20 minutes after class everyday...

One Very Beautiful woman was a fitness instructor at my gym (think ‘well muscled’ with nice strong legs (those strong thighs come in handy with her dealings with the Pook-man!)). Every time I saw this girl, she always had a ‘satellite’ boy around her. Who does she end up with? Me.

Or the ultimate example: there was a girl I was in oneitis that drove me to this webpage. As I got bigger, her reactions to me changed as well. At 155, I was ‘average’. At 175, she knew something was up. I got her at 195.

Now I date some Very Attractive women but most are Very Beautiful Women.

I know many of you guys are saying the same thing, “I get beautiful women too and I am skinny!” But the thing is, all these examples here is based on attraction on the body alone. I am NOT working to get these women. My body is doing 99% of the attracting. I can just be a statue and get a response. (But of course, you have to take action. This is based on doing zilch.)

Rather than work hard to get one woman, why not work hard on yourself and get all the women? I don’t work hard to get women, I work hard on my dreams which gets the women automatically.

Like the article says on top, only the extremely beautiful women will risk being with a hunk like you. If you want a girl with a great body, you ought to work on your own body.

Coming from a skinny guy, being big is a totally different world. The worst thing is finding out how people really viewed the old you. People now openly insult my past skinny self and it hurts. It hurts because I never knew they had thought that way of me. Clothes no longer hang on my body properly, but I look terrific naked (I am saying this for the mental imagery of our lovely lady readers).

Big guys are allowed to get away with more things. I allowed to be cruder, to be bolder, to take advantage of women more (I’m serious!), and so on. You can also be stupid as well. My biggest problem is women only wanting me for sex (no, this is not a joke. Yes, it is a problem). You try to find a girl that fits your life and all she is interested in is your body! It is like getting rich and putting up with gold diggers.

So how do you go from being skinny guy to brawny guy? There is a lot of information on the Internet. Diesel’s Guide to Bulking Up threads in the Health Forum is a start. For myself, I used Anthony Ellis’s program. 30lbs in 3 months, no joke. Though, for most people beginning, it will be like 30lbs in 4-5 months. The big problem with fitness is that there are so many different opinions. Many of them are wrong and will waste your time (including trainers). What I loved about Ellis’s program was that it cut all the hype and came up with very in-depth information. It works.

However, the risk with body building is that it can turn into a highly narcissist womb. I often think the mirrors in the gyms are not so much to perfect the form, but to perfect the ego. The risk is that you will try to become perfect and we all know that perfect is boring.

Now for a note to the skinny guys who are successful with women. They will, no doubt, post replies to challenge the relevancy of this post. Know that the central... thrust... of the post is not a bettering of image. It is an increase of testosterone. If you are naturally skinny, and are at a higher muscle mass, your body will continually be at a high state of testosterone building and rebuilding muscle mass just to stay the same. High rates of testosterone affects not only your actions, I believe women can sniff it out. So take a guy, stuffed with testosterone, and push him into a room full of lovely young ladies. He doesn’t speak a word. He won’t have to. The women will go to him automatically.

Such is the power of testosterone. Such is the power of sexuality.

Or as Nietzsche put it:

Quote:With your love shall you assail him who inspires you with fear!

How can she assail you if you don't inspire her with fear?

Post: #336

(03-14-2017 10:55 PM)Tactician Wrote:  For me, it's a 'keystone habit' that benefits everything else I do in life.

Especially as you age. It's hard to explain what it's like being damn muscular in the back half of your forties, when you look around at the men of your own age bracket. Get in now and get started: the muscle you build now will make your golden years a lot less painful.

Quote:Below, from The Book of Pook:

Very interesting. Like Rudebwoy and I, the big change for the writer seems to be around the 200 lbs mark. I suspect there's an aspect beyond 'tall' that women are instinctively-drawn too, and, beyond the classic Y shape, it involves thickness through the chest and back.

A girl I banged in my early twenties used to spend our sex sessions just raking my lats with her long fingernails. She explained it was that I was just too wide to reach around, and it drove her nuts. I've noticed that the moment I'm in any kind of 'looming' position over a sex partner, she'll generally go for the lats, biceps or traps, and clutch in a death grip like she's fighting at a high-class handbag sale. They're drawn to not only touch the muscles, but to test them, almost as if they're trying to see if you're unbreakable. Don't flinch, even with the nails.

Maybe it's so they could cower behind you as a shield when the wolves attacked.

Quote:Let me give you some examples. One Very Beautiful girl was in several of my classes. I start talking to her and she has plenty of time to leave. But she doesn’t... she stays to keep talking to me. The girls now notice me, but are a bit scared to talk and act around me.

One cute girl is like a leech to me in one of my classes. She must sit right next to me, must ‘borrow my notes’, must talk to me 20 minutes after class everyday...

Co-incidentally, I was messaging someone in private about this kind of thing yesterday: when you're big, you have to end up perfecting the art of walking away from a conversation in progress, because interactions and transactions with women - particularly on the office / shop girl level - now take a lot longer to process, because they usually want to keep talking far beyond the Standard Millennial Grunt and Unfocused Eyes thing they do to other customers, let alone the older women.

You never really get to turn game off in this state, so I'm always inching out of the conversation, where it's obvious you're being friendly but also have places to be, so your back and forth repartee ends up with the final lines being called out from a distance over your shoulder.

It drove a cute young blonde I gamed for a period of about a year or more before I closed nuts, apparently, because I was obviously friendly and seemed to enjoy talking to her, but then I'd walk off, like I had places to be.

I could only shrug. "I do, and I did."

Post: #337

(03-15-2017 05:25 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Very interesting. Like Rudebwoy and I, the big change for the writer seems to be around the 200 lbs mark. I suspect there's an aspect beyond 'tall' that women are instinctively-drawn too, and, beyond the classic Y shape, it involves thickness through the chest and back.

How tall are you AnonymousBosch? Are you 6'3" like Pook? I'm asking not to derail this into a height vs muscles debate, but rather to see whether you're at an equivalent BMI to the author (if you're 5'11" obviously you would be way more muscular)

Post: #338

A lot of what AB is talking about is foreign to most guys, that is why we still get the comments about face and height being more important.

The thickness AB talks about is something that cannot be explained, WE are talking on a primal level.

At the magical 200 mark, I have had girls cheekily grab my ass in a club (Asian girl at that). I have had girls ask me to squash them during sex, freak out that I have legs to match my torso and ask me if I have ever been a stripper.

Having a good physique AGAIN doesn't mean the battle is over, far from it. Like someone stated, wait until you are in your 40s. Having a great build will automatically have you ahead of the herd of guys in the same age group. You will also be able to stay in the game a little longer, I still talk to girls half my age and have yet to hear any "creepy" comments.

Last summer at a old gig, I had a summer intern bring me snacks and stand at my desk talking to me. She was 29 years younger than me, yes that isn't a error. I didn't close the deal because she had a few family members working at the same company.

In a perfect world, I would love to have a better looking face and a few more inches in my height. As we know the world isn't perfect, so I don't have either.

As a older dude, I don't have the drive or ambition to be doing RSD approaches or daygame all day long. Night game is fun but I cannot go all night every weekend, my Sundays are shot afterwards and I have things to do on Sundays.

Like Cr33pin said, a girl with a great body can walk on water for most dudes. So why wouldn't it apply to a man with a great physique.

Post: #339

Those videos are incredibly cringe inducing and reek of autism. However they do show the power a great physique has.

Post: #340

(03-15-2017 12:24 PM)britchard Wrote:  Those videos are incredibly cringe inducing and reek of autism. However they do show the power a great physique has.

Looks like Connor is a math major! From this page:

Quote:The Sigma Chapter of Upsilon Pi Epsilon, the Computer Science Honor Society, inducted four new student members on April 6, 2016. They are computer science majors Emma Kathryn Groves, Class of 2016, and Alex Rollins, Class of 2018, along with computational math majors Ryan Beeman, Class of 2016, and Connor Murphy, Class of 2016.

Post: #341

delete

Post: #342

^ griffinmill's analysis is spot on.

I think one of the primary reasons for why emotions run high when discussing things like physique though as opposed to A-list status is that great physique is extremely possible for any man to achieve.

You don't need to out-class everyone in sports then strike it lucky getting drafted into major leagues, or slug it out doing shitty commercials and low-rent acting gigs for a decade or two in LA to maybe become a big-screen actor, or start a business or design a product where the planets align and you become rich. You can just eat right, go to the gym a lot, and get 8 hours of sleep a night and you can form a fantastic physique within a year. A lot of people get in denial about it because they don't have the desire or drive to achieve that so they want to rationalize saying "I don't want it anyway because it doesn't make that much of a difference."

Post: #343

(03-15-2017 07:05 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  ^ griffinmill's analysis is spot on.

I think one of the primary reasons for why emotions run high when discussing things like physique though as opposed to A-list status is that great physique is extremely possible for any man to achieve.

You don't need to out-class everyone in sports then strike it lucky getting drafted into major leagues, or slug it out doing shitty commercials and low-rent acting gigs for a decade or two in LA to maybe become a big-screen actor, or start a business or design a product where the planets align and you become rich. You can just eat right, go to the gym a lot, and get 8 hours of sleep a night and you can form a fantastic physique within a year. A lot of people get in denial about it because they don't have the desire or drive to achieve that so they want to rationalize saying "I don't want it anyway because it doesn't make that much of a difference."

Depends what you mean by a "great physique". If you want to look like Connor Murphy you would probably need steroids to achieve that physique. I'm not hating on guys on steroids or guys with "amazing" physiques but it's hard to get an accurate vision of what you can actually achieve naturally especially with all the misinformation by the fake nattys on youtube etc.

Post: #344

(03-15-2017 08:52 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 07:05 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  ^ griffinmill's analysis is spot on.

I think one of the primary reasons for why emotions run high when discussing things like physique though as opposed to A-list status is that great physique is extremely possible for any man to achieve.

You don't need to out-class everyone in sports then strike it lucky getting drafted into major leagues, or slug it out doing shitty commercials and low-rent acting gigs for a decade or two in LA to maybe become a big-screen actor, or start a business or design a product where the planets align and you become rich. You can just eat right, go to the gym a lot, and get 8 hours of sleep a night and you can form a fantastic physique within a year. A lot of people get in denial about it because they don't have the desire or drive to achieve that so they want to rationalize saying "I don't want it anyway because it doesn't make that much of a difference."

Depends what you mean by a "great physique". If you want to look like Connor Murphy you would probably need steroids to achieve that physique. I'm not hating on guys on steroids or guys with "amazing" physiques but it's hard to get an accurate vision of what you can actually achieve naturally especially with all the misinformation by the fake nattys on youtube etc.

I have no idea why you guys think that guy is on steroids. He has a nice body, but it isn't at the level that I would think "he must be on steroids to look like that". Is it because you're genetically lacking and don't understand that a great body is possible after years in the gym and with a strict diet?

Post: #345

He's clearly using.

Post: #346

(03-15-2017 09:49 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ...
Last summer at a old gig, I had a summer intern bring me snacks and stand at my desk talking to me. She was 29 years younger than me, yes that isn't a error. I didn't close the deal because she had a few family members working at the same company.
...

Daddy-fantasies game recognised.

I'm not even joking. If you sense it and respond accordingly then you're in for some wild times. In my late teens I vividly recall how jealous I was of a friend's father who had our female social companions all but throwing themselves at him. If he wanted to he could have been swimming in barely-legal pussy.

Post: #347

(03-16-2017 02:05 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 09:49 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ...
Last summer at a old gig, I had a summer intern bring me snacks and stand at my desk talking to me. She was 29 years younger than me, yes that isn't a error. I didn't close the deal because she had a few family members working at the same company.
...

Daddy-fantasies game recognised.

I'm not even joking. If you sense it and respond accordingly then you're in for some wild times. In my late teens I vividly recall how jealous I was of a friend's father who had our female social companions all but throwing themselves at him. If he wanted to he could have been swimming in barely-legal pussy.

#LIFEGOALS

Post: #348

(03-16-2017 02:05 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 09:49 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ...
Last summer at a old gig, I had a summer intern bring me snacks and stand at my desk talking to me. She was 29 years younger than me, yes that isn't a error. I didn't close the deal because she had a few family members working at the same company.
...

Daddy-fantasies game recognised.

I'm not even joking. If you sense it and respond accordingly then you're in for some wild times. In my late teens I vividly recall how jealous I was of a friend's father who had our female social companions all but throwing themselves at him. If he wanted to he could have been swimming in barely-legal pussy.

LOL

Devil has a serious sense of humour.

Post: #349

(03-15-2017 08:52 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 07:05 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  ^ griffinmill's analysis is spot on.

I think one of the primary reasons for why emotions run high when discussing things like physique though as opposed to A-list status is that great physique is extremely possible for any man to achieve.

You don't need to out-class everyone in sports then strike it lucky getting drafted into major leagues, or slug it out doing shitty commercials and low-rent acting gigs for a decade or two in LA to maybe become a big-screen actor, or start a business or design a product where the planets align and you become rich. You can just eat right, go to the gym a lot, and get 8 hours of sleep a night and you can form a fantastic physique within a year. A lot of people get in denial about it because they don't have the desire or drive to achieve that so they want to rationalize saying "I don't want it anyway because it doesn't make that much of a difference."

Depends what you mean by a "great physique". If you want to look like Connor Murphy you would probably need steroids to achieve that physique. I'm not hating on guys on steroids or guys with "amazing" physiques but it's hard to get an accurate vision of what you can actually achieve naturally especially with all the misinformation by the fake nattys on youtube etc.

As they say in the UK, how long is a piece of string?

The Connor Murphy guy looks great, I am not going to hate on his body but he seems goofy to me. He seems to be trying a little too hard.

You can get a good physique without steroids, depends how much effort you are willing to put in at the gym. Most guys aren't going to put in the time and effort, so they complain.

Having lived in the UK and in Canada now, I can tell you a great physique would be defined differently in both places. The UK is filled with a lot of skinny fat dudes who are more content drinking pints every weekend.

The bar is a bit higher in Canada, but most guys have a stomach (belly) from overindulging.

If you have a flat stomach with visible abs, then you are already ahead of the pack. A few push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups etc a few times a week and a cleaner diet should do the rest.

Post: #350

(03-14-2017 09:35 PM)Icarus Wrote:  Connor Murphy goes grocery shopping. The awkward part starts at 2m30s: