Decided to give Tinder another try last week. Not many matches, maybe 3 or 4 a day.

Yesterday I installed Tinderly to mass like girls and, more importantly, I took some better photographs.

I made them myself using a DSLR and used two different backgrounds and clothes. They turned out great.

With these two changes, in less than 24h I've already gotten about 80 matches. About 15% of them are opening me. It's not that my photos from before were bad; it's just that great pics change the whole game. Stupidly simple, but I hadn't realized that until now.

Thanks to the autoliker I've been matched with some horrendous chicks, but now all I have to do is weed them out.

Btw, I don't know if I read it here, but I always open with "Something tells me we are going to get along" and have good results, ~80-90% reply rate. Usually something like "me too", "we'll see bla bla bla" or "why do think so", all of which offer a great opportunity to follow up.

(10-19-2014 08:15 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Suited works, being sociable, pics with 7+ girls, action shots, rad places you've been.

Go out and take pics in cool places, having a friend whose a pro photographer helps.

What kinds of places have you done it in?

I do have a semi-decent picture with one of the girls I was with recently but I think that might be a bit too obvious. The best DHVs are subtle.

(10-20-2014 01:28 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 08:15 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Suited works, being sociable, pics with 7+ girls, action shots, rad places you've been.

Go out and take pics in cool places, having a friend whose a pro photographer helps.

What kinds of places have you done it in?

I do have a semi-decent picture with one of the girls I was with recently but I think that might be a bit too obvious. The best DHVs are subtle.

Beach for casual, office/club for suits, however 90% of my pics are natural, I like doing new things and going on adventures. Hiking, forests, snow, beach/river, I'm pretty sociable so I'm always around new girls and new people.

I've got an underwater pic of me flipping the camera off, a pic of me with my rifle slung up, pointing at the camera with an "Merican" as fuck shirt on with a smirk. I've got 2 pics with some HB 7+ I've also got pic of me in an outdoors ice rink of a major NHL hockey team.

Most girls say awesome beard, oh you love so and so team, I also reference them to my instagram, I always get a - you're always doing something fun response.

Whether I'm on Tinder with these pics or not, I'm doing these things for myself, not to attract girls, that's a byproduct.

(10-20-2014 12:21 PM)Ringo Wrote:  Decided to give Tinder another try last week. Not many matches, maybe 3 or 4 a day.

Yesterday I installed Tinderly to mass like girls and, more importantly, I took some better photographs.

I made them myself using a DSLR and used two different backgrounds and clothes. They turned out great.

With these two changes, in less than 24h I've already gotten about 80 matches. About 15% of them are opening me. It's not that my photos from before were bad; it's just that great pics change the whole game. Stupidly simple, but I hadn't realized that until now.

Thanks to the autoliker I've been matched with some horrendous chicks, but now all I have to do is weed them out.

Btw, I don't know if I read it here, but I always open with "Something tells me we are going to get along" and have good results, ~80-90% reply rate. Usually something like "me too", "we'll see bla bla bla" or "why do think so", all of which offer a great opportunity to follow up.

I just deleted Tinder. I was listed at 10 years younger at 34 and using 10 year old pictures too but hardly any response. Through the fake GPS App it amazing to see how big Tinder has gotten all over the world. Stockholm had the best looking women.

I am traveling to Poland soon and I have pipelined with Tinder+fake GPS

I got now triple candidates for the first night.
How do you manage in a smart way the options?
I mean, I have 3 girls scheduled for the same night, that I can be confident they are at least "cute" 7 but I dont know if they might flake or I might not like them.

Operationally, how to handle this?

Also, I seen a thread about getting confidence she is not a SIF
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-34211.html
have to try that too.

Pretty funny message I got tonight from a girl:

"let's start this off as friens. You can give me the D later."

I wasn't sure how to reply haha.

(10-22-2014 09:30 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Pretty funny message I got tonight from a girl:

"let's start this off as friens. You can give me the D later."

I wasn't sure how to reply haha.

Funny shit these girls say sometimes..... Keeps it interesting.

I do like the invitation though.

I have been interacting quite a bit with a 7.5 girl in-person recently, and some of our text messages include her describing how she likes me because I am so nice, sweet and patient with her. I kept responding with words to the effect of denying that I am sweet and changing the topic to various pleasures that I am expecting to have with her, including that there is NO such thing as a free lunch... and I hope she has built up her endurance to be able to handle what's coming.

To me, these kinds of interactions with chicks turn out to be juggling acts, and each one of the scenarios plays out a little differently.. depending on the give and take and the back and forth and the extent to which each side keeps interest in the relationship. I am constantly striving to NOT allow girls to set the frame, even though sometimes I get sucked into going along with some of the acceptance of the girl's framing of her perceptions...

I need to stop swiping. I've got myself a little addicted and am spinning way too many plates on Tinder at the moment without converting in real life.

I've got 7 girls from Tinder onto Whatsapp in the past week but I just don't have time to schedule dates with them all! I'm going to be annoyed at myself if some of them fall off before I've had a chance to try and convert as that means it's been a waste of my energy. Which is my own fault.

I've stopped gaming on Tinder, OKC and POF at least until I've had a chance to exhaust all the potentials I currently have.

(10-23-2014 05:28 PM)Roardog Wrote:  I need to stop swiping. I've got myself a little addicted and am spinning way too many plates on Tinder at the moment without converting in real life.

I've got 7 girls from Tinder onto Whatsapp in the past week but I just don't have time to schedule dates with them all! I'm going to be annoyed at myself if some of them fall off before I've had a chance to try and convert as that means it's been a waste of my energy. Which is my own fault.

I've stopped gaming on Tinder, OKC and POF at least until I've had a chance to exhaust all the potentials I currently have.

Yeah you gotta pull back, I'm exhausting matches and I think It's making me a bit thirsty. I gotta focus on the numbers I already have.

I feel a bit overwhelmed trying to lock a girl down for tonight and tommorow.

I think I need a break.

Who say's you can't get any play with

I've got a pic of me in the bathroom and I'm getting matches. Although its been coming up

My response to "are you in a bathroom lol?"

"Yes, I couldn't figure out which hole to put my dick through"

so far no replies

Loads of hot girls on this thing making me doubt the legitimacy.

I'll download the fake gps app and finally scout other countries

edit: if you're curios, yes I'm wearing a turtle neck in the picture

Alright guys,

I haven't read this thread very much because I wasn't a serious tinder user until now. I had used it on and off when traveling around but never legitimately due to oil towns being smaller.

I'm now beginning a longer stint in Houston, TX (population 2.2M), have had some good success, and would like to share some advice. This'll probably get buried since we're now above 100 pages...whatever. Here we go.

Swiping: Swipe right on every girl. You are a busy man who does not have time to look through every girl's profile and decide if you want to bang her. Truth is, girls have lots of options and you will swipe through hundreds of girls and only get a handful of matches. Girls treat matches like marriage. I've seen it. They read a guy's profile, look through his pictures, and then finally swipes right. Fuck that, you aren't a girl.

If you match with girls you don't want to bang, unmatch them and move on.

Here's another benefit of mass swiping. If you swipe no on a girl and she swipes yes, tinder will eventually rotate her back into your swipes. If you match a girl and then unmatch, tinder will assume she offended you and that you don't want to see her again. Just like that you improved the quality of your matches.

Frame: You don't care about Tinder. You are an international playboy, who for whatever reason has decided to venture into online dating. You aren't sure if you like it so far, it's not usually like you, but you'll squeeze some Tinder girls into your already busy social schedule. Your messages are short and to the point, like a good left hook, that make her laugh, intrigue her, or both. Your auto-capitilization is obviously off.

Pictures: Don't use too many. Three is good, four is good, five is getting obnoxious. You don't want girls to know ALL of your whereabouts. You want girls to know that you're a social guy who does interesting things. I have three pictures, all of me with girls, in three different interesting locations. These pictures also show off my looks very well. Make sure you get pictures that sell your personality and show your looks.

Bio: KISS. Keep it simple, stupid. A funny one-liner. Something ironic about tinder. Something funny about yourself. A line of your favorite emojis. You don't want to paint a whole picture of yourself in your bio, there's no mystery in that.

Openers: I switch it up but usually do one from this post. 2 truths and 1 lie or you look like trouble is working for me.

Texting up to the phone number: Keep things flowing, be laid back. Don't send double text messages because you don't care.

Don't use a lot of emjois. Don't say "haha" or "lol" a lot. You KNOW your jokes are funny so there's no reason to.

I disagree with a lot of the guys who rush into the phone number. It seems to be a common trend to wnat to get girls' phone numbers as soon as possible, kind of like a venue change, but I don't think that's necessary. I talk to girls casually, make them laugh, and then after a while...casually move the conversation to "things they like to do in x city." Keep it cool, and then pull "we should do xxx....sometime" after she says yes, just say "give me your # and I'll work out details."

This is a cool, low investment way to do it. Keep everything casual. You need to convey that your tinder is very low on your priorities. To do this, follow the texting guidelines posted above. Most importantly,

Take your time, player.

Which option below is better?

a. You send a "B-" text after two hours. You like this girl, you want to sleep with her, so you obviously keep conversation going.

b. You send an "A+" text after five hours. If you don't pick this option, you've got some other issues you need to get worked out first.

Your texts should be haymakers.





Oh, and lastly, try to stay away from "interview" questions. "Tell me something funny about you." "What's your favorite xxx?" I used to throw these in after some comfort was built to screen her and further build comfort. Fuck it. My texts now are so thought out that they are hilarious and build attraction without having to dig into boring shit about eachother. This works out well on dates because there's already a foundation of attraction for you to fill your personality out onto. I've been on dates where girls don't know what I do, where I went to school, or any personal details like that. They don't care. They know that I was smooth on tinder...and that I'll probably be smooth in person. This way I can roll up and start spitting all the personal bullshit while getting closer to the girl. Be cool, man.

(10-23-2014 10:09 PM)redbeard Wrote:  They know that I was smooth on tinder...and that I'll probably be smooth in person. This way I can roll up and start spitting all the personal bullshit while getting closer to the girl. Be cool, man.

Solid info. I'd go one step above your advice and say have a system.

Unless you're a legit male 10 you should not be crafting individual openers. Just send the same message to every match.

Once they stop replying, it's dead. You might be able to restart with a moment, but I've never made it work over text.

Make it clear that you expect to meet up soon - filter out the timewasters early. If she's new to Tinder then she might be genuine but hesitant to meet. Learn to tell the difference.

Get them on a date and at some point ask them what they found attractive about you. Play up whatever trait comes up regularly - e.g. I'm tall, so my pictures are with shorter guys, making me look even bigger.

Final point - she owes you nothing, so don't invest in her. Ask questions for comfort or if you genuinely want to know, but otherwise silence or statements are better.


Edit: Screenshot her picture and add it to the contact in your phone. That way if she's playing games over text you can always remind yourself if she's hot enough to make it worth continuing.

(10-22-2014 09:30 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Pretty funny message I got tonight from a girl:

"let's start this off as friens. You can give me the D later."

I wasn't sure how to reply haha.

you misspelled friends. in my class, that'll earn you a D, and no A.

After 6 months of using this app I have found that I do very well with:

Black girls between 18-23
Girls from Europe visiting or their parents were born in Europe

Friday-Sun are my best days to get numbers

Because it's too cold to eat at the ice cream place a block from my apt I now have to find a new plan.

All I keep reading are success stories of tinder use however my personal experience has been completely different Tinder is very location dependent and usage seems to freefall for girls over 26 or so. In Europe I did okay with it but I have yet to go on a single date in Washington, DC where I have been using it for 2 months now. I swipe right every profile and go through 100s every week but still 90% of my matches have been with whales or unattractive girls. Also, match rate is no more than 5%. Would you guys say this is normal or exceptionally low?

So, the other 10% of the girls I match with and who seem moderately attractive (I have yet to match with a girl who was above a 7.5 in her profile), I have tried to keep the conversations going and they almost always stop or the girl unmatches me. I have tried to use many of the openers from this post as well as studying profiles when there's a match and then using lines like "you seem to be having a lot of fun in your profile picture, was that taken in Baltimore Harbor?" I cannot understand what I am doing wrong for such a low success rate. Is the problem my age, i am 35, though I am primarily looking for girls 25-34 to date so in theory age should not be much of an issue!?

Also, I have varied my pictures from a suited pic, to a beach pic, to a "glamour" headshot pic from a college yearbook and surprisingly the latter gave me the best results. Also, how long do you guys drag a conversation on before you try to go for a date. For me I try to exchange less than 10 messages back and forth, before asking for meet-up (100% failure on this so far). Perhaps I am too eager and should take this slower. What do you guys think? Also, I am very curious to hear of anyone who has used tinder successfully in DC area. Thanks.

Lower your age to 30

(10-26-2014 08:56 PM)TripleG Wrote:  All I keep reading are success stories of tinder use however my personal experience has been completely different Tinder is very location dependent and usage seems to freefall for girls over 26 or so. In Europe I did okay with it but I have yet to go on a single date in Washington, DC where I have been using it for 2 months now. I swipe right every profile and go through 100s every week but still 90% of my matches have been with whales or unattractive girls. Also, match rate is no more than 5%. Would you guys say this is normal or exceptionally low?

So, the other 10% of the girls I match with and who seem moderately attractive (I have yet to match with a girl who was above a 7.5 in her profile), I have tried to keep the conversations going and they almost always stop or the girl unmatches me. I have tried to use many of the openers from this post as well as studying profiles when there's a match and then using lines like "you seem to be having a lot of fun in your profile picture, was that taken in Baltimore Harbor?" I cannot understand what I am doing wrong for such a low success rate. Is the problem my age, i am 35, though I am primarily looking for girls 25-34 to date so in theory age should not be much of an issue!?

Also, I have varied my pictures from a suited pic, to a beach pic, to a "glamour" headshot pic from a college yearbook and surprisingly the latter gave me the best results. Also, how long do you guys drag a conversation on before you try to go for a date. For me I try to exchange less than 10 messages back and forth, before asking for meet-up (100% failure on this so far). Perhaps I am too eager and should take this slower. What do you guys think? Also, I am very curious to hear of anyone who has used tinder successfully in DC area. Thanks.

Your hit rate is pretty normal from my experience. It's a combination of girls not swiping as much as guys and in general being pickier. That being said, I've still gotten over 170 matches in the past couple of months, way more than I can bother talking to.
What I tend to do is post Moments and then engage with the girls who engage with those as they've already displayed some interest.

I think you need a bit more time before going for the number. Tinder has changed from being a purely pick up app to now being a legitimate dating avenue which means a lot of the girls on there have changed their mentality.
It changes from girl to girl but I've gone a week before asking for the number of a girl because she wasn't replying heaps.
As a general rule though I'd say at least 2 conversations before asking for the number unless things go really well with your initial convo.

I had positive responses "in person" in Mex & Brazil. Brazil was mostly through social circles but Mexico was a lot of cold day approaches.

I seem to have 'bad luck' with Tinder (almost no matches). Maybe I need some tips on the pictures and write up.

I asked this chick for her number she said yes but if you send me a dick pick so help me God... wtf lol

Can someone break down for me the basics to getting Tinder hookups? Is it a similar formula to POF/OKC? Do you need to paint yourself as a douchebag, muscle shirt photo, hook-y banter in messages and profile, etc. and then send out cut-and-paste screens for girls who are DTF?

(10-27-2014 10:24 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  Can someone break down for me the basics to getting Tinder hookups? Is it a similar formula to POF/OKC? Do you need to paint yourself as a douchebag, muscle shirt photo, hook-y banter in messages and profile, etc. and then send out cut-and-paste screens for girls who are DTF?

Read the thread dude, it's all been covered. Seek and you will find.

Girls on tinder be like:

(10-28-2014 10:54 AM)britchard Wrote:  Girls on tinder be like:

That's such a load of shit, fucking hamsters, I bet she went radio silent after you asked her that question about her BF letting her have a tinder.

^I'll let you know if she does

Speaking of hamsters - sometimes you gotta let them run:
-Got opened
-Multiple texts before response
-2 text replies
-1 challenge to her
-explanations and a number

Something tells me she might be a stage 5 SIF

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