(07-30-2014 01:19 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Damn, that slut is in fantasy land. Airports need to have 'nap areas' that you can rent out by the hour and take layover bangs.

I've seen something about nap rental units in airports.. I think in Japan.

Come to think of it...10 years ago I had a layover in Korea, there was a section where you could shower, nap, get a massage, smoke...relax. I'm sure you could have rented a bed and banged there.

That airport was fucking awesome.

I've been pondering something I brought up in a previous post on this thread. I said, "So much of the manosphere is spent discussing when to text a chick back, how many days to wait for a date, etc -- and it all revolves around the need to not come off as desperate. But, wouldn't you only come off as desperate if you ARE desperate? "

^ Is this true? Or, in spite of the way you act, can and will a girl reject you because you are, by her definition, desperate?

As we've discussed, game is about strategy; it's about becoming the best YOU you can be while pursuing and achieving goals (whether they regard women, your career, etc.). I've seen a chick recently, who I mentioned on this thread, twice in one week. I'm trying hard to get the bang from this gorgeous girl. I'm thinking about seeing her for the third time in two weeks this weekend -- not because I'm desperate (have dates lined up for tonight and Monday) -- but because I want to sit with this hottie at a bar near my place and hook up with her as soon as I can. She's cute and the fire's hot between us.

Gio said to schedule your dates around when you want to bang, which reinforces the notion that game is about you and doing what you want. So if I give off this vibe of authority and have been successfully gaming this chick thus far, will inviting her out again be coined as "needy"? The Renberg a year ago would come off as needy. But I'm fairly certain that the modern-day Renberg won't. But that's not up to me. That's up to the girl.

(07-30-2014 04:08 PM)Renberg Wrote:  Gio said to schedule your dates around when you want to bang

Yes.

Date when you want to date.

Bang when you want to bang.

If you can do that, you have Sexual Power.

If you do everything on other peoples terms, you don't have much power.

I don't do everything on my terms but as my game has gotten better, I am scheduling girls more and more around MY TIME and my convenience.

(07-30-2014 04:08 PM)Renberg Wrote:  will inviting her out again be coined as "needy"?

Probably not, if what you say is true:

(07-30-2014 04:08 PM)Renberg Wrote:  the fire's hot between us.

If this true, she is looking forward to seeing you again.

Even if you are needy, which you are not, she would probably perceive it simply as lust or attraction.

In this case, I wouldn't worry too much about appearing "needy", better to make errors of aggression than errors of non-aggression.

this just clicked in my head, how many guys are "self-aware" of how they interact with girls, I'm not talking auto-pilot game. I'm talking about guys who don't have a clue to talk to girls, or even realize the shit they say to girls. Im talking percentage of men here. It's gotta be a large percentage of the male population.

(07-29-2014 05:34 PM)horn Wrote:  Also gonna pick up 2-3 new pocket squares. I'm overdue for upgrading these.

Now this is what I'm talking about:


Once I get my new suits back next week, it's going to be devastating. Gonna pickup another 1-2 squares then.

(07-30-2014 04:08 PM)Renberg Wrote:  I've been pondering something I brought up in a previous post on this thread. I said, "So much of the manosphere is spent discussing when to text a chick back, how many days to wait for a date, etc -- and it all revolves around the need to not come off as desperate. But, wouldn't you only come off as desperate if you ARE desperate? "

^ Is this true? Or, in spite of the way you act, can and will a girl reject you because you are, by her definition, desperate?

As we've discussed, game is about strategy; it's about becoming the best YOU you can be while pursuing and achieving goals (whether they regard women, your career, etc.). I've seen a chick recently, who I mentioned on this thread, twice in one week. I'm trying hard to get the bang from this gorgeous girl. I'm thinking about seeing her for the third time in two weeks this weekend -- not because I'm desperate (have dates lined up for tonight and Monday) -- but because I want to sit with this hottie at a bar near my place and hook up with her as soon as I can. She's cute and the fire's hot between us.

Gio said to schedule your dates around when you want to bang, which reinforces the notion that game is about you and doing what you want. So if I give off this vibe of authority and have been successfully gaming this chick thus far, will inviting her out again be coined as "needy"? The Renberg a year ago would come off as needy. But I'm fairly certain that the modern-day Renberg won't. But that's not up to me. That's up to the girl.

You can only schedule dates around when you want to bang when you've built to a certain level of skill. You can't just wish game to happen like in the Matrix where they implant martial arts into his brain.

Gio's been at the game for a while. He knows how to navigate through conversations with girls. His game consciousness is at the same level as his personality, and they are fused so that he can pretty much trust his decisions.

When you are new, you will probably fail a lot. When you are intermediate, it's the same.

I'm always still failing, but my failures are not all that I see. I understand what it means when a girl rejects me. I understand that she's rejecting something that probably can't be changed in the moment- maybe I need to up my general style or whatever.

It's never personal, in the moment (unless you are drunk, but then everything becomes personal to you).

It's like the movie ground-hog day where he gets better at everything.

And it's the same for success. Don't get to psyched out by a rejection, but don't get psyched up by a success. A man understands these isolated incidents from higher perspective- from his pearch up on the mountain, look down at the valley of his experiences... he will notice a trend in the way he's being rejected or a pattern in his successes. He will deal with things on the macro level.

A player is usually dealing with lots of girls at once. That's why I think it's weird when some players start talking about finding that one good girl or whatever. It's too rigid and too much pressure.. an almost religious kind of faith in that one situation working out.

Players know their limits- they know what they have realistic control over and what they don't. They work within that to improve as much as possible.

Soup you seem to one of the eldest members here, how long has it been since you discovered game ?

Thanks for the input, Gio and Soup. It's much appreciated.

(07-30-2014 05:37 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Soup you seem to one of the eldest members here, how long has it been since you discovered game ?

I formally discovered game around 2010.

I had always been going after girls, but relied only whatever natural attributes I had at the time.

I like to get good at things, and when I discovered that it was possible to improve with in the same way that you could learn how to play guitar well- through focussed practice and good decision making, I was hooked.

I'm like Ryu in Street Fighter : "I must train harder!" ha

I discovered "The Game" book a few years ago, fell off.

Broke up with an ex 2 years ago, discovered ROK by accident and became a RVF'er last year.

I also discovered a 4 part dvd set called "Inner Game"

My biggest problem is picking things up and not finishing it. I never finished the DVD's I've got most the basics down with texting and gaming in person, my biggest weakness is approaching and I've completely fallen off that, it doesn't help I work a shitton and can hardly approach at lunch or at my second job on the weekends.

I've still got a long way to go that's for sure.

On a different note, there is too much hate around here for peacocking. It is a time-tested strategy that works if you have self-confidence. Players here are missing out if they don't try it at least 2x.

Go out wearing something way different, like a fur coat and cowboy hat [rock-star wig, whatever], suddenly girls come running up to you to touch it, try it on, open you, qualify themselves. Sometimes I'd wear these cheesy white-tux jackets with velour collars from the 70s [$10 at goodwill!]. Girls ate it up.

You have that IDGAF attitude and it is *instantly* communicated to every chick in the bar. The beta orbiters hed asplode that the girls they've been buying drinks for want to hang with you instead. I've had girls peel their best-friends off me so they could dance with me, & then call us a cab to go fuck.

If you don't believe me - wait for Halloween, and get the most outlandish costume you can find. You'll be shocked at how many girls literally come running up to you and kino you instead of the other way around. The shyest girl at the bar/club will ask you what's going on.

And it also has the positive effect of eliminating humorless bitches from the jump....

(07-30-2014 06:15 PM)horn Wrote:  On a different note, there is too much hate around here for peacocking. It is a time-tested strategy that works if you have self-confidence. Players here are missing out if they don't try it at least 2x.

Go out wearing something way different, like a fur coat and cowboy hat [rock-star wig, whatever], suddenly girls come running up to you to touch it, try it on, open you, qualify themselves. Sometimes I'd wear these cheesy white-tux jackets with velour collars from the 70s [$10 at goodwill!]. Girls ate it up.

You have that IDGAF attitude and it is *instantly* communicated to every chick in the bar. The beta orbiters hed asplode that the girls they've been buying drinks for want to hang with you instead. I've had girls peel their best-friends off me so they could dance with me, & then call us a cab to go fuck.

If you don't believe me - wait for Halloween, and get the most outlandish costume you can find. You'll be shocked at how many girls literally come running up to you and kino you instead of the other way around. The shyest girl at the bar/club will ask you what's going on.

And it also has the positive effect of eliminating humorless bitches from the jump....

I do this with my trusty Hawaiian shirt. Dead serious.

You almost have to peacock in some way. Every player had something that grabs a girls attention visually.

Hawaiian shirts are in style right now as well.

If you dress well, other things don't matter as much like muscles or age.

Clothing is a form of communication. You can dress like a money guy who is in the know and it communicates with people that they need to know you.

Don't lean on this- there needs to be charisma to back it up, but any guy who isn't dressing well is doing a disservice to their game. It is a form of peacocking to be the most well dressed guy in a situation.

I swear living with a roommate is the ultimate cock block.

Had a girl over tonight, tried escalating but she didn't want to fuck because my roommate was home. I need my own pad.

(07-31-2014 02:03 AM)game_ethic Wrote:  I swear living with a roommate is the ultimate cock block.

Had a girl over tonight, tried escalating but she didn't want to fuck because my roommate was home. I need my own pad.

Is he your housemate or a roommate? If the former you should've told him to stay in his room and not let her see him. If he did, maybe the idea of him hearing you two fuck scared her off if she heard him making noise. I've banged girls at my parents while they were asleep, was never an issue. I once banged a girl in a tent, with three of my wingmens tents right next to mine, they heard everything but she didn't know cuz they were smart enough to keep their mouths shut till she left, she thought they were asleep. Out of sight out of mind.

I just realized how much pussy i'm getting through Tinder... ALL of my bangs except one this summer have been tinder matches.

(07-31-2014 03:11 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 02:03 AM)game_ethic Wrote:  I swear living with a roommate is the ultimate cock block.

Had a girl over tonight, tried escalating but she didn't want to fuck because my roommate was home. I need my own pad.

Is he your housemate or a roommate? If the former you should've told him to stay in his room and not let her see him. If he did, maybe the idea of him hearing you two fuck scared her off if she heard him making noise. I've banged girls at my parents while they were asleep, was never an issue. I once banged a girl in a tent, with three of my wingmens tents right next to mine, they heard everything but she didn't know cuz they were smart enough to keep their mouths shut till she left, she thought they were asleep. Out of sight out of mind.

You could also tell her he sleeps with earbuds/plugs so not to worry about him hearing anything. Of course it's always nicest if he'll leave the room or house for the initial hookup, one less piece of LMR to solve. My last bang was in a hotel room rented with a buddy, he went down to the bar and I texted him after we wrapped up.

(07-31-2014 03:11 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Is he your housemate or a roommate? If the former you should've told him to stay in his room and not let her see him. If he did, maybe the idea of him hearing you two fuck scared her off if she heard him making noise. I've banged girls at my parents while they were asleep, was never an issue. I once banged a girl in a tent, with three of my wingmens tents right next to mine, they heard everything but she didn't know cuz they were smart enough to keep their mouths shut till she left, she thought they were asleep. Out of sight out of mind.

It's not usually a problem. I've banged girls who were ok with him being there. And it doesn't help that this girl was extremely shy and has low self esteem -- it took me almost half an hour to convince her to come upstairs because she was worried about what other people might think if they saw her leave. 

It's just like Roosh said in Bang -- although (I think) my early and middle game is pretty good, my late game needs improvement. Her not wanting to fuck was something in my control(I could've told my roommate to leave) but I hadn't thought of that at the time.

(07-31-2014 04:56 AM)The Great Basilisk Wrote:  I just realized how much pussy i'm getting through Tinder... ALL of my bangs except one this summer have been tinder matches.

Same here brother, it supplements the lack of day/night game I have. It's also pretty minimum effort.

Got crazy SIF'd on Tinder last night. Wanted to call the Better Business Bureau and report the app.

Hmm was on a park date with a girl, two dudes and one girl were like confessing their love to her. I was mad and she was barely showing IOis or eye contact. As she was leaving I just went in for a kiss and she said "oh alright then" and immediately bent to my frame.

If anything this taught me in some cases not to wait for IOIs and go in the kill.

Made a buddy of mine download Tinder and he's getting matched with a ridiculous amount of 8's and 9's. If anything, it says a lot about your relative attractiveness — if you're consistently getting matched with 8's and 9's, you're a good lucking dude; whereas if you're getting matched with mediocre chicks(5, 6.5 range) it's safe to say your average at best.

I get matched with an occasional 8(I've probably only talked to about 2-3 8's since I reinstalled Tinder) but most of my matches are in the 6-7.5 range. I much prefer day game since not only your look, but your game, is taken into perspective when a girl finds you attractive. Good looking guys dominate the online dating/hookup spectrum of (passive) game.

Had D1 with a 23 Brazilian today. I think I blew it. Was focusing too much on making her feel emotions and leading and teasing and negging, but all this made me lose focus on calibrating myself as the buyer.

For now I have decided to ask myself every few mins on a date, "Are you a 10 right now ?"

Any pointers on Brazilian girls in NYC ? Very different from the Americans.